Sri Lanka IV

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because i'm into my v. busy season now, and don't have a lot of time to check news elsewhere.thx


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Part 4: Sri Lankan Conflict Thread

 

(Link to Part 3) (Link to Part 2) (Link to Part 1) (Link to Orginal that began the debate on Sri Lanka on Rabble)

 

I wonder if the Admin can get this thread changed to "Sri Lanka IV" from the current title "hope people can keep informing us of the Tamil situation,"


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[Channel 4]
Grim scenes at Sri Lankan camps
http://tinyurl.com/dd5tqp

Video Clips
http://tinyurl.com/c6f5er
http://tinyurl.com/d5fylo

Channel 4 just one step further then Al Jazeera.


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Here is a detail of one of China's major intrest in Sri Lanka

 

Chinese billions in Sri Lanka fund battle against Tamil Tigers

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6207487.ece

China - Sri Lanka's Biggest Aid Donor

http://www.tamilnation.org/intframe/china/090505biggest_aid_donor.htm


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Quote:

I wonder if the Admin can get this thread changed to "Sri Lanka IV" from the current title "hope people can keep informing us of the Tamil situation,"

 

 

As you have spoken, so shall it be done.

 

We were talking about this at some length in our team meeting today, and a colleage was saying that the average working stiff Sinhalese in Sri Lanka was becoming fairly disenchanted with the government, because of all the resources the government is putting into the war. This is a pretty huge effort, and it's not like the gov't in Columbo can really afford this.


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 Oldgoat,

 Thank you for the change of title.

Yes, you are right that the average Sinhalese are already tired of the way the governments have decided to deal with this problem. The IMF loan if granted would give the Sri Lankan government and the extremist to carry out their agenda on to the next year without much financial difficulties for the Sri Lankan government (as for the average Sinhalese, they will starve and the news will be suppressed as the controlled media will paint pretty pictures and promote further Sinhalese nationalism). The last time the Sinhalese youths (JVP Rebellion in the late 80's) decided to rebel because of poverty and social instability saw the government wiping out estimated 35 000 (still unaccounted and the exact number is thought to be much higher) Sinhalese youths of the island.

 Reminds me of the Nadarajah Thangathurai's Statement from the Dock (1-March-1983)

  "...What we ask for is not division but freedom. Why we ask this is not because of narrow thinking. What we hope to achieve is not only the emancipation of the Tamil people but the greater good of the Sinhalese people themselves. Why? Because, thereafter, the so-called Tamil problem will cease to be a livelihood for opportunist Sinhalese politicians. That will provide a chance for the Sinhalese people to free themselves from the political, social and economic shackles that bind them today and realize where their true slavery lies.....

...Do you accept as correct and justified the various acts of oppression that the Tamil people have suffered until now not only in our land but in various parts of your land as a result of various acts of thuggery and terrorism? Do you also consider wrong our attempt to free ourselves from the inhumane oppression of your government? Or does it mean that you do not care what happens because the victims are Tamils? If that is so, our sympathies are with you.  Believe me our freedom is an assured fact and will come. Once that happens your law books and terrorist laws cannot touch us. Thereafter you will be the sole 'beneficiaries' of the very laws that oppress us now..."

http://www.tamilnation.org/tamileelam/thangathurai/dockstatement.htm


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Deaths of elderly Vanni IDPs increase in Vavuniyaa
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29280



'State terror' waging 'racist war' - Sonali Wickrematunge
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29274



Images taken with Lankan consent: UN
http://lankasrinews.com/view.php?2b24OXd4a32f5Aoe4d4YOo6ca0ac4BP34d3LTmA3e0dW0MmIce03cYdJ0cc3vlYAde



Cluster bombs used on highly congested areas
http://lankasrinews.com/view.php?2b34OXd4a32f5Aoe4d4YOo6ca0ac4BP34d3LTmA3e0dU0Mmyce03cYdJ0cc3vlYAde



Asian Director of Human Rights Watchdog is prohibited to visit Sri Lanka
http://lankasrinews.com/view.php?2b34OXd4a32f5Aoe4d4YOo6ca0ac4BP34d3LTmA3e0dg0MmIce03cYdJ0cc3vlYAde

 

Sri Lanka minority 'threatened'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8034413.stm


Sri Lanka invites U.N.'s Ban, rebels allege starvation
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/06/AR2009050601212.html

 

Behind Colombo's P.R. Battle Against the Tamil Tigers

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090506/wl_time/08599189640600

 

Four people die inside Sri Lankan internment camps
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6234928.ece

 

On Sri Lanka, UN's Ban Declines To Call for Cease-Fire, Double Standard Unexplained
http://www.innercitypress.com/un1may3srilanka050509.html


On Sri Lanka, UN Responsibility to Protect Cited, Abuse of IDPs Surfaces
http://www.innercitypress.com/un1may4srilanka050509.html


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Looks like the Sri Lankan government is really low on money and in a desperate position. They are circulating emails asking for donations to the local Sri Lankan embassy and material support from people especially in western countries (particularly of Indian heritage). They also opened up numerous websites using the plight of the Tamil civilians to collect funds. This is just like the tsunami drama that they did where the money did not reach the Tamil civilians who were hardest hit in the island during the natural disaster and an estimated 2 billion went unaccounted from the international communities' contribution which is still yet to be answered by the Sri Lankan government.

 

This is one of the methods they used to pump up their military strength.

 

If anyone wants to donate please donate through International Humanitarian Agencies like ICRC, UN agencies etc. Even giving to ICRC or UN agencies would be useless as they don't have access to these civilians and please pass on this message.


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Obama's First Humanitarian Crisis
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2009/05/06/obama-s-first-humanitarian-crisis.aspx

 

Hitler believed his own lies but Rajapakse wants the world also to believe his lies
http://www.eelamnation.net/headlines_details.php?polID=73

 

Joint Committee on European Affairs in the Irish Parliament on 5 May 2009: Situation in Sri Lanka: Discussion with Irish Forum for Peace in Sri Lanka.
http://debates.oireachtas.ie/DDebate.aspx?F=EUJ20090505.xml&Ex=All&Page=2


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"Thereafter you will be the sole 'beneficiaries' of the very laws that oppress us now..."  bingo.


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Sri Lanka? the only possible action
http://www.tamilbrisbane.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=980&Itemid=1


"It has taken the Tamils, both in and outside Sri Lanka, a long time to realize a simple truth. To put this crudely, "It is not possible to bring down KFir jets with bows and arrows". I was sent a heart-rending video from the Tamil North which moved me deeply. A Kfir jet had dropped a bomb on a hut, killing the mother. The daughter, about 10 years, rescued a piece of her mother's saree, all that was left of her. Her 5 years old brother was by her side. The Kfir jet retuned for a second round of bombing. The girl protected the only part of her mother, the piece of cloth, while the boy, with anger written all over his face, picked up a stone which he threw at the on-coming jet to bring it down. It was one of the most moving scenes I have seen, and illustrates in a dramatic way, the problem."

More writing of Brian Senewiratne: http://tamilnation.org/forum/brian/index.htm


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No support for LTTE - Canada
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/news/story/2009/05/090505_canada_minister.shtml

 

Fierce offensive continues in northern Sri Lanka
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/may2009/sril-m06.shtml

 

Power appeals to Rudd over Tamils
http://www.cathnews.com/article.aspx?aeid=13551

 

Canadian academics support self-determination, ask direct US action
http://tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29282

 

Government sets up Tamil committee, a trick for the opposition
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15173&size=A

 

Sri Lanka's displaced now numbers over 192,000, UN reports
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=30720&Cr=sri+lanka&Cr1=

 

In LTTE capital, now a ghost town, the silence of the grave
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/in-ltte-capital-now-a-ghost-town-the-silence-of-the-grave/455686/0

 

On Sri Lanka, UN Says Responsibility to Protect is a "Concept" Only, Video Not Seen
http://www.innercitypress.com/un1may5srilanka050609.html

 

Despair among Sri Lanka's refugees

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8037000/8037360.stm

 

Sri Lanka conflict: refugees 'shelled in no-fire zone'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/srilanka/5288145/Sri-Lanka-conflict-refugees-shelled-in-no-fire-zone.html

 

Tamils Ask U.N. to Appoint Bill Clinton or Kofi Annan as U.N. Envoy to Sri Lanka
http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2009/5/prweb2394734.htm

 

Is this the end of the Tamil struggle?
http://www.groundviews.org/2009/05/07/is-this-the-end-of-the-tamil-struggle/

 

The Conflict in Sri Lanka: A Cornered Tiger Is Still Deadly
http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20090506_sri_lanka_cornered_tiger_deadliest_sort

 

Premier Supports Peaceful Resolution In Sri Lanka
http://www.news.ontario.ca/opo/en/2009/05/premier-supports-peaceful-reso...


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"We failed to do our duty by the suffering people in Vanni"- SL journalist writes
http://tamilnational.com/news-flash/924-media-in-sl-today.html

 

Situation Report [May07]: Heavy shelling and cluster bombing reported
http://tamilnational.com/news-flash/941-situation-report-may07.html


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Sri Lankan 'detention' camps swell with Tamils
http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0507/p06s07-wosc.html

 

M.I.A. to Michelle Obama, Oprah: "STOP THE BOMBING OF THE TAMILS IN SRI LANKA"
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/archives/2009/05/mia_to_michelle.php


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Anna Neistat, HRW Researcher banned from entering SL
http://lankasrinews.com/view.php?2b24OXn4a32f5AIe4d4YOo6ca0ac4BP34d3LTmA2e0dC0MmUce03cYdJ0cc3vlYAde

 

SRI LANKA: UN Secretary General's offer of assistance should not be ignored
http://www.ahrchk.net/statements/mainfile.php/2009statements/2009/

 

Sri Lanka troops break more rebel defences
http://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/afp/20090507/tap-srilanka-unrest-2a5be5e.html

 

Cannon repeats call for ceasefire in Sri Lanka
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Cannon+repeats+call+ceasefire+Lanka/1573279/story.html

 

To Visit Sri Lanka, Ban Ki-moon Called "Too Busy" by UN Sources, Despite Japanese Urging and Invitation
http://www.innercitypress.com/un1may6srilanka050709.html

 

Sri Lanka: UN agency boosts support for displaced pregnant women
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=30732&Cr=sri+lanka&Cr1=

 

Sri Lankan government whips up communal hysteria as war reaches climax
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/may2009/sril-m08.shtml


S Lanka army 'maintains advance'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8039532.stm


Life as a female Tamil Tiger guerilla relived by one of first female soldiers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/srilanka/5283438/Life-as-a-female-Tamil-Tiger-guerilla-relived-by-one-of-first-female-soldiers.html

 

Grim picture emerges from Tamil camps
http://www.thestar.com/article/631020

 

Rains expose callousness of mass imprisonment
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29295


Rotrand seeks intervention for ‘out of control' situation in Sri Lanka
http://www.montrealexpress.ca/article-335104-Rotrand-seeks-intervention-for-out-of-control-situation-in-Sri-Lanka.html

 

Time to Speak Out: Bring the Perpetrators of Genocide to Justice
http://www.tamilcanadian.com/page.php?cat=5&id=5744

 

Urgent international scrutiny needed in Sri Lanka, say UN rights experts
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=30740&Cr=Sri%20Lanka&Cr1=


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Situation Report [May08]: Shells explode among civilians waiting for food, more than 100 killed today

http://www.tamilnational.com/news-flash/958-situation-report-may08.html


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clear photos there in your last link, thirusuj, of bombed civilians in their tents today. 


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SLA steps up carnage on civilians
http://tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29296

 

'Sea battle' near Tamil war zone

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8041725.stm

 

SLA removes young women to Thellippazhai SLA camp
http://tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29298

 

Extortion through abduction of children increases in Jaffna
http://tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29301

 

Sri Lanka: Repeated Shelling of Hospitals Evidence of War Crimes
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/05/08/sri-lanka-repeated-shelling-hospitals-evidence-war-crimes


How did Obama do on his first humanitarian crisis?
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/05/07/how_did_obama_do_on_his_first_humanitarian_crisis

 

Pakistan and Sri Lanka, a Tale of Two Counterinsurgencies
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/08/a-tale-of-two-counterinsurgencies-in-pakistan-and-sri-lanka/

 

Sri Lanka and Responsibility to Protect Arise in UN, Would Ban Take to Council?

http://www.innercitypress.com/un1may7srilanka050809.html


At UN, Obama's Magic Rice on the Speakers List, Sri Lanka Below the Basement

http://www.innercitypress.com/unsc1obama050809.html


On Sri Lanka, UN Split on Visit by Ban, Russia Lends an Ear, Monday Not Council

http://www.innercitypress.com/un1may8srilanka050809.html


An Imprisoned Sri Lankan Journalist

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/09/opinion/lweb09lanka.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

 

Tamils plan renewed protest on University Ave
http://www.thestar.com/article/631787

 

Situation Report [May 09]: Heavy fighting reported;thousands of lives at risk
http://tamilnational.com/news-flash/966-situation-report-may-09.html


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Correspondent expelled from Sri Lanka
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/correspondent+expelled+from+sri+lanka/3136157


Sri Lanka arrests three British journalists
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/news/story/2009/05/090509_itn.shtml

 

SLA artillery barrage hits 'safety zone' as ICRC ship leaves Mullaiththeevu
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29309


Sri Lanka arrests 3 journalists after refugee camp reports
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/631841

 

2,000 civilians feared slaughtered in a single night
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29311


UN experts demand international scrutiny in Sri Lanka
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29312


LTTE urges IC to act in the international way
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29313

 

Malnutrition in mothers triggers Jaundice, Hepatitis in newborns
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29308


1200 bodies counted, hundreds seriously injured, aerial bombing continues
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29318


Gaza II' unfolding in the East
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4677.shtml

 

Rights group accuses Sri Lanka of shelling hospitals
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/631790

 

Tamil march ends
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/631787

 

Tamils march for their families
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/631969

 

Hundreds of civilians die in Sri Lanka fighting
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/632046


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'Hundreds dead' on bloodiest day of Sri Lankan battle to destroy Tamil Tigers
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/10/sri-lanka-tamil-tigers-deaths


Sri Lanka rebuffs reports that 257 civilians were killed in last 24 hours
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/srilanka/5303930/Sri-Lanka-rebuffs-reports-that-257-civilians-were-killed-in-last-24-hours.html

 

Sri Lanka artillery barrage kills 378, doctor says
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/sri-lanka-artillery-barrage-kills-378-doctor-says-1682408.html


Situation Report [May10Eve]: Shelling resumed at 6 PM in Vanni

http://www.tamilnational.com/news-flash/977-situation-report-may10eve.html


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from your UN/scrutiny link at #19 to tamilnet.com:

" 'There is an urgent need to establish an international commission of inquiry to document the events of recent months and to monitor ongoing developments.'  The Experts called upon the UN Human Rights Council to establish such a commission, as a matter of urgency, to address the critical situation in Sri Lanka, and demand full respect for all human rights."

"Philip Alston, Professor of Law and Faculty Director of the Center for Human Rights and Global Justice at New York University School of Law, and appointed Special Rapporteur in 2004 by the United Nations Commission on Human Rights, Mr. Anand Grover, appointed Special Rapporteur in 2008 by the United Nations Human Rights Council, Mr. Olivier De Schutter, appointed Special Rapporteur in 2008, and Ms. Catarina de Albuquerque, who began her work as Independent Expert on the issue of human rights obligations related to access to safe drinking water and sanitation in November 2008, signed the statement."

re: 'an international commission of inquiry to document the events of recent months and to monitor ongoing developments'- necessary but not entirely sufficient? Does the Harper gov't even support such an inquiry?


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-from the third innercitypress link at #18,

"Inner City Press pointed out that if Ban waits to go until after the final assault, it might become a tour of a dead zone. The advisor agreed, saying, "people will be locked in concentration camps for five years." Some say that if the UN knows that the camps they are funding are concentration camps, perhaps a change is needed. They say Ban should go now, taking the Press, and demand entry into the conflict zone." especially when, in the same article there are links to videos reporting rape of young women in the IDP camps. 

 


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Tamil Protestors block the Gardiner today

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The Gardiner Expressway came to a standstill as a more than a thousand Tamil protesters stormed onto the highway, blocking all lanes Sunday night.

Police were caught off guard as the demonstration swelled.

Police had been monitoring several groups of demonstrators who had joined up on Spadina Ave. as they headed south at about 6:30 p.m.

Once the marchers hit the lakeshore hundreds of people began running up the ramp to the westbound Gardiner. Marchers held flags, banners and placards demanding a stop to the violence in their homeland.

Police closed ramps to the expressway from Jarvis to Spadina Ave. Traffic backed up in both directions. From the Don Valley Parkway to the east and as far as the Humber River in the west end. A group of demonstrators had crossed over the centre concrete medium spreading themselves out across all lanes

Police have closed all on ramps onto the DVP from Steeles and all traffic on the DVP is being diverted at Richmond.


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680 News reporting the the DVP southbound is closed from the 401.


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Just to confirm from my home, the DVP southbound is closed from the 401.  Northbound is open.


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One thing I notice about the Tamil-Canadian protests in the past week or two is that they seem like rapid (re)action protests.  They are not like the typical Canadian protest where a group posts information weeks in advance on Facebook, in the local newspapers such as NOW Toronto and Eye.  My guess is that when members of the Tamil community who lived in Sri Lanka decided to protest, they had to move quickly.  I'm not sure how the Sri Lankan government actually reacted.  I don't think its police and military forces would be acting with the same kind of organized police protocol as is supposed to be done here.

Even if the protest on the Gardener Expressway ends tonight, another protest could pop up elsewhere next week without notice.  This could take place on the 401 west of Yonge Street, at the Yonge-Bloor subway stations, at the borders, or who knows where.

Whether one agrees with the Tamil-Canadian protests or not, the Tamil community has introduced a new style of protesting in Toronto.


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Youtube clip on when the protestors took the gardener

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arr5Ct19MPU&feature=player_embedded

Photos from a blogsite of taking the gardiner

http://torontoprotest.blogspot.com/

 


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680 News is now reporting that the protestors are making their way off the Gardiner.


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Sri-Lankan government perpetrates a bloodbath , according to the UN:

 

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A doctor working in the war zone said on Sunday that the bodies of 378 people had been registered at his hospital.

He said 1,122 others had been injured - and more bodies were lying on beaches and by the sides of roads.

He said heavy arms appeared to have been fired from government-run territory into a mainly civilian area under the rebel control.

The army denied shelling the designated "safe zone" for civilians.

The government said the Tigers had done the firing.

The claims are impossible to verify as reporters are banned from the war zone.

The BBC's Charles Haviland in Colombo says the issue of civilian casualties is highly sensitive here and the state-owned Daily News on Monday makes no mention of the incident at all.

Meanwhile, the pro-rebel TamilNet website said a key Tamil rebel figure has been seriously wounded.

"Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) military spokesman Irasiah Punitharooban - alias Ilanthirayan (Marshall) - sustained heavy injuries in the latest artillery barrage by the Sri Lanka army in the early hours of Sunday," TamilNet reported, quoting sources close to the rebels in the Vanni region.

The British Foreign Secretary David Miliband is to co-sponsor informal discussions in New York on the island's humanitarian situation.

The Sri Lankan government is dismissive of calls from him and other diplomats for a ceasefire in the north: it says it is about to defeat the rebels permanently and that a ceasefire would not help civilians.

In response to claims of civilian deaths, military spokesman Brigadier Udaya Nanayakkara said the Tamil Tigers had used artillery and mortar fire on two occasions on Saturday morning, directed against civilians within their zone.

Sri Lankan defence spokesman Keheliya Rambukwella also told the BBC that reports of government shelling were "propaganda" of the Tigers.

I read these chilling reports, but what is the truth? With no media allowed in (not that they would be trustworthy if let in anyways), how are we to know the truth? Due to the passion and dedication of the protesters in Canada, I am leaning towards the view that the Sri Lankan government is overseeing a massacre. A description of the major hwy shutdown in Toronto on CBC this morning, outlined that there were people of all ages there who had no fear. They interviewed two 17 year old girls linking arms against the traffic and determined to stay put. The radio piece noted that protesters agreed to leave overnight due to assurances from Micheal Ignatieff's office that he would raise the issue of sanctions, etc. against Sri Lanka in parliament. I cannot find any mentino of this on cbc.ca and I laughed out loud when I heard it. I think my most recent issue of Maclean's said it best "name an issue and Ignatieff will agree with you on it. Even if he has to twist himself inside and out to do it".


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Here is what you can do that is circulating in emails:

How can Individuals help us?:
-Let your friends, family, colleagues etc. know about this mass killing of Tamils by the Sri Lankan Government.
-Talk to your MPs in your area and urge them to do more then put out press releases. Tell them to put immediate diplomatic sanctions and cut start cutting business ties between Canada and Sri Lanka.
-Attend rallies in solidarity with the Tamil community.
-Comment on articles on websites, write letters to the editor, make videos and post them on Youtube, post articles and videos on Facebook etc.
-Send Canadian medias information to use to cover this story immediately.

 


Requests To Student Unions, Labour Unions, Peace Alliances, Anti-War Groups, etc:

-Inform students, labour members, and peace and anti-war group members to attend the Emergency rallys in solidarity with the Tamils.
-Please do immediate press release condemning the attroctious acts of the Sri Lankan Government.
-As an organization, please contact the foreign affairs department or the Prime Minister of Canada by emailing, calling, writing or visiting them and tell them that you are concerned about the civilians safety.
-Send information your list servs.
-Send Canadian medias to cover this story immediately and let the media know about your organizations stance on this issue.
-Please go HERE and get your organization to sign onto the CPA statement.
-Please do as much as possible to help us.



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Sri Lanka impacts India elections
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8043778.stm

 

Grand response to Norway ballot: 80 percent turn out

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29325

 

99 percent Norway Tamils aspire for Tamil Eelam
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29326

 

Tamil survivors bear phosphorous burns - report
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29322

 

Aid workers tell donors not to fund Sri Lanka, reports Channel-4's Walsh
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29321

 

On the day written by blood - 3200 civilian deaths confirmed
http://www.tamilnational.com/news-flash/982-3200-slaughtered.html

 

Aid workers tell donors not to fund Sri Lanka, reports Channel-4's Walsh
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29321

 

IC, refocus whether the IDP camps are ethically a good idea - Paton Walsh
http://www.tamilnational.com/news-flash/980-its-a-man-made-crisis.html

 

Situation Report [May10]: A day written by blood in Vanni
http://www.tamilnational.com/news-flash/976-situation-report-may10.html

 

U.N. Tells of ‘Bloodbath' in Sri Lanka
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/12/world/asia/12lanka.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss


Doctor says up to 1,000 dead in Sri Lanka shelling
http://asia.news.yahoo.com/ap/20090511/tap-as-sri-lanka-civil-war-2nd-ld-writet-510daa6.html

 

‘Bloodbath' in Sri Lanka barrage, U.N. says
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30664810/

 

UN condemns ethnic Tamil 'bloodbath' in Sri Lanka
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/srilanka/5306177/UN-condemns-ethnic-Tamil-bloodbath-in-Sri-Lanka.html

 

Joint Letter to Japanese Prime Minister on Sri Lanka
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/05/10/joint-letter-japanese-prime-minister-sri-lanka

 

Sri Lanka: Arrested Tamil editor speaks to the WSWS
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/may2009/slab-m11.shtml

 

Nervous Sonia rakes up 1987 Lanka accord
http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=2&theme=&usrsess=1&id=253879

 

UN: Sri Lankan attack a 'bloodbath'
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/05/200951145425251899.html

 

Jaffna Library: Cultural Clash
http://www.sbs.com.au/dateline/story/watch/id/600042/n/Culture-Clash

 

UN in Sri Lanka Admits 400 Killed, No Word from Ban Ki-moon on Visit
http://www.innercitypress.com/un2may1srilanka051109.html

 

Aid worker: Shelling kills 378 civilians in 'no-fire' zone
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/05/10/srilanka.tamils.fighting/index.html

 

Crossing the Line in Sri Lanka
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/blog+crossing+the+line+in+sri+lanka/3137557

 

This Sri Lankan army spokesperson at Radio France Internationale (RFI)
http://tinyurl.com/ojf6hf

 

NPR Media
http://www.npr.org/templates/player/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=103993059&m=103993045

 

Blog : Sri Lanka's Rajapaksa tells Channel 4 News to leave
http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/2009/05/10/sri-lankas-rajapaksa-tells...


Tamil protest surprises Toronto
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090510.wtamilprotest0510/BNStory/Front/home

 

Tamil protesters end blockade on major Toronto highway
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/05/10/toronto-tamilprotest.html

 

Gardiner chaos averted
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/632257


Tamils continue protests
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/632277

 

'More than 1,000 civilians killed' in attacks on Sri Lanka safe zone
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/11/sri-lanka-civilian-deaths

 

Torontoist vs. Torontoist in... Tamil Protests
http://torontoist.com/2009/05/torontoist_vs_torontoist_in_tamil_p.php

 

Tamils Take to the Gardiner
http://torontoist.com/2009/05/tamils_take_to_the_gardiner.php


thirusuj
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Situation Report [May11]: Shelling and gunfire continued throughout the day

http://tamilnational.com/news-flash/993-situation-report-may11.html


thirusuj
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Video: Mother's Day Massacre by GOSL (May 10, 2009)

Warning: The subject matter may be disturbing to some.
http://www.tamilkathir.com/news/1351/57/10-05-2009/d,view_video.aspx


thirusuj
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CNN Poll: Should The International Community Intervene In Sri Lanka?

http://internationaldesk.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/11/monday-poll/


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appreciate these updates thirusuj.

 link to the CPA at #31 ?


thirusuj
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thanks,

Yes, it was a email promoting the CPA rally in solidarity with the Tamils.

 

Tamils block University again

http://rabble.ca/babble/national-news/tamils-block-university-again


thirusuj
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Speaker criticises Tamil protests
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8044578.stm

 

'Sri Lanka factor' in Tamil Nadu poll

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8043588.stm

 

Indian election: Tamil leader calls for invasion of Sri Lanka
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/5309787/Indian-election-Tamil-leader-calls-for-invasion-of-Sri-Lanka.html

 

At UN, Kouchner Speaks On Sri Lanka to Select Reporters, IMF and Tariff Views Not Known
http://www.innercitypress.com/un2may4srilanka051109.html

 

Turkey Says UN Must Cooperate with Sri Lankan Army, PKK Off-stage
http://www.innercitypress.com/un2may5srilanka051109.html

 

Mount Royal MP Irwin Cotler calls for ceasefire in Sri Lanka
http://www.westmountexaminer.com/article-335844-Mount-Royal-MP-Irwin-Cotler-calls-for-ceasefire-in-Sri-Lanka.html

 

EU Diplomats Urge UN To Focus On Sri Lankan Crisis
http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=200905111941dowjonesdjonline000633&title=eu-diplomats-urge-un-to-focus-on-sri-lankan-crisis

 

Tamils battle with new lives
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Asia/Story/STIStory_375666.html

 

Send US forces to Lanka to save innocent lives: Tamils to US
http://www.zeenews.com/news530984.html

 

Sri Lanka war zone hospital 'hit'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8045135.stm


SLA attacks hospital, 47 massacred
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29337

 

Sri Lanka hospital attack kills dozens
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/srilanka/5312230/Sri-Lanka-hospital-attack-kills-dozens.html


Shelling kills dozens at Sri Lankan hospital
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/12/sri-lanka-hospital-shelling-...


Sri Lanka brushes off criticism and guns for Tigers

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090512/tpl-uk-srilanka-war-c3c492c.html


Sometimes price of freedom is gloriously inconvenient
http://www.thestar.com/Article/632765

 

Tamil protests open political minefield for Ottawa
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20090512.TAMILMAIN12ART2253/TPStory/?query=lanka+or+tamil

 

Tories praise Layton for diffusing Tamils' Gardiner blockade
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090511.wPOLtamil0511/BNStory/politics/

 

Leading Sri Lanka Tamil Politician Claims 'Genocide' by Military
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-05-12-voa4.cfm

 

Sri Lanka brushes off criticism of civilian deaths

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/sri-lanka-brushes-off-criti...


thirusuj
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Georgetown Security Law Brief: Sri Lankan minister blasts UN
http://www.securitylawbrief.com/main/2009/05/sri-lankan-minister-blasts-un-comments.html

 

Tories 'not prepared' to meet with Tamil Tigers
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090512/Tamil_protests_090512/20090512?hub=TopStories

 

SRI LANKA: WEST APPALLED AT BLOODBATH BUT ACTION IS SCARCE
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/evelyn-leopold/sri-lanka-west-appalled-a_b_201946.html

 

Sri Lanka: Repeated Shelling of Hospitals Evidence of War Crimes
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/human-rights-watch/sri-lanka-repeated-shelli_b_202025.html


thirusuj
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UN Security Council joint statement on Sri Lanka (12/05/2009)

http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/newsroom/latest-news/?view=PressS&id=17648319

 

Sri Lanka Puts Obama to the Test - And He's Failing
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1897632,00.html

 

McGuinty urges protesters not to carry Tamil Tiger flag
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090512.wtamilflag0512/BNStory/National/home


thirusuj
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Sri Lankan doctor describes shelling
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8046744.stm

 

Sri Lankan military will launch an even heavier military offensive after 13 May - Amnesty International
http://lankasrinews.com/view.php?2bIOoMe0d3lYe0ecBB4S3a4f5AS4d3cYd3cc2AmT3d434OX3a030Mm2e

 

SLA shells hospital again, several killed including doctor, ICRC worker
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29345

 

Sri Lanka: Satellite Images, Witnesses Show Shelling Continues
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/05/12/sri-lanka-satellite-images-witnesses-show-shelling-continues

 

Horrifying images of Sri Lanka torture killings, secret location in Polanaruwai.
Please do not see if you are weak hearted.
http://athirvu.com/target_news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1242174567&archive=&start_from=&ucat=4&

 

Another Tamil Protest Expected Downtown On Wednesday
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_34513.aspx

 

War in Sri Lanka Weighs on India Vote
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124215238903311539.html#mod=fox_australian

 

Tamil community in Toronto to stage another protest
http://www.thestar.com/article/633233

 

UN Security Council must act immediately to stop "bloodbath" in Sri Lanka
http://www.amnestyusa.org/document.php?id=ENGNAU2009051110594&lang=e

 

Tamils In Conflict Zone in Sri Lanka Have Little Food
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-05-12-voa54.cfm?rss=asia

 

End Colombo's Media War
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124216015306112081.html

 

Sri Lankan Civilians Used as 'Cannon Fodder'
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124221093350414729.html

 

More Sri Lanka civilians die in second raid on hospital in Tamil war zone
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6276272.ece

 

ICRC worker killed in Sri Lanka
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8047580.stm

 

Interview with Dr Paul McMaster, MSF Surgical Advisor, arrived in Vavuniya, in northern Sri Lanka, on April 16 and left on May 8
http://www.msf.org/msfinternational/invoke.cfm?objectid=390B584F-15C5-F00A-2573FE1D1D7E6136&component=toolkit.article&method=full_html

 

Tamils need new tactics to woo Canadians
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Tamils+need+tactics+Canadians/1590007/story.html

 

Protests aren't the way, Tamil Tiger leader's Canadian family says
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090513.wtamilsbrother13art22322/BNStory/National/home

 

Be lawful or else, police tell Tamils
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/633449

 

Tamils plan human chain at Queen's Park today
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090513.wtamilsplans13art2246/BNStory/Front


Army's war crimes continue in northern Sri Lanka
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/may2009/sril-m13.shtml

 

Eyewitness Sri Lanka: 'This is too much to take. Why is the world not helping?'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/12/sri-lanka-eyewitness-civil-war

 

Slaughter in Sri Lanka
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_article/article6276147.ece


thirusuj
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Riot police stand guard over Tamil protest
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090513.wtamilprot0513/BNStory/National/home

 

Amnesty International Calls on Obama Administration, U.N. Security Council to Act Now to Save Sri Lankan Civilians
http://www.amnestyusa.org/document.php?id=ENGUSA20090513001&lang=e


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NDP New Democrat petition on the conflict in Sri Lanka

 

Quote:
We, the undersigned citizens and residents of Canada, call on the Government of Canada to:
  • Urge the international community and the UN to ensure the protection of all civilians;
  • Urge the UN Security Council to authorize timely and decisive measures to halt mass atrocities in the Vanni region of Sri Lanka, including the dispatch of a Special Envoy to the region, and the creation of a commission of inquiry into crimes under international law committed by any person or entity;
  • Demand that the Government of Sri Lanka remove restrictions imposed on access to the conflict zone for humanitarian workers and media and permit international observers in the detention camps;
  • Initiate internationally mediated efforts aimed at achieving a durable political solution to the conflict in Sri Lanka.
 


thirusuj
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SLA barrage inflicts carnage, makeshift hospital reports disaster

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29351


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thanks for the petition link, i've signed it.


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Obama's Statement on Sri Lanka

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30729308#30729308



[AP]
Obama: Sri Lanka must end warfare
13 May 2009
http://tinyurl.com/ooezhf



[The Australian]
Obama tells Sri Lanka to stop shelling
May 14, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/qkjqnu


Sean in Ottawa
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Question-- and I know it will be controversial but this has been bothering me and I am hoping to have someone help come up with an explanation:

We understand that civilians are dying in the thousands.

We are told that militarily the Tamil cause is, at least for the moment, lost.

The government is using the excuse, at least, of the presence of Tamil Tigers in the civilian areas for the shelling.

Why don't the Tigers surrender now? Would that not take away any cover for the shelling? What is the point of continuing when your people are being slaughtered?

Is it because the Tigers value their cause, as hopeless as it now appears, more than the lives of their people or is there an explanation I am missing?

It is not uncommon historically when a war is lost for the losing side to surrender in order to stop the slaughter of its civilians. Why not now?


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"Why don't the Tigers surrender now? Would that not take away any cover for the shelling? What is the point of continuing when your people are being slaughtered?"

 

Tigers will surrender if someone takes the responsibility to protect the Tamil people and look after their aspirations like India, UN or western countries. They are not going to give it up to Sri Lankan government which has done nothing to make peace with the Tamil people or meet their aspirations. The people are going to die unless the International community intervenes or the Tigers re-establish their military strength. What is the point of surrendering and letting the people live in concentration camps (I am sure you have read the report of starvation, torture, disappearance, sexual abuse in these camps), or without basic freedom and living at the mercy of someone else?

 

"Is it because the Tigers value their cause, as hopeless as it now appears, more than the lives of their people or is there an explanation I am missing?"

 

Tigers do value their cause to the point that their lives become nothing. Again you have to look into history when the Sri Lankan Army invaded Jaffna in 1995, Tigers didn't want to stand and cause the lost of civilian lives so they left and most people went with them. Starvation and lack of medicine forced the people back into the government occupied Jaffna which they now regret as Jaffna is under the administration of the Armed Forces for the last 15 years locked away from the rest of the world including the rest of Sri Lanka. The disappearances, rapes, lootings, unquestioned killings, media censorship of the population of 600 000 Tamil people with 50 000 Sri Lankan troops has been their lives. Do we want this to be repeated again for another portion of the Tamil population?

 

The eastern province was captured by the government like 2 years ago and the pro-government paramilitaries rules and makes laws while there is a makeup provincial council to fool the world that the government is willing to devolve power which is yet to happen and given like 14 dead lines the last time I checked on it. Again there is rapes, disappearances, lootings, unquestioned killings, media censorship in this province as well.


"It is not uncommon historically when a war is lost for the losing side to surrender in order to stop the slaughter of its civilians. Why not now?"

 

Japan was surrendering to someone who respects Human rights and willing to treat the people with dignity. The Tamils want an option anything else then the Sri Lankan government. Just because they surrender does not mean they are not going to be slaughtered.


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Sri Lanka images 'prove damage'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8047376.stm

 

UN 'grave concern' over Sri Lanka

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8049261.stm

 

"Klerk risks repeating Netherland's criminality on Srebrenica genocide"
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29356

 

LTTE urges IC to save civilians in the name of humanity, SLA attacks kill 1700 in 48 hours
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29360

 

THOUSANDS FACE HUNGER AND DISEASE IN SRI LANKA VIOLENCE-LWR RESPONDS
http://www.lwr.org/news/news.asp?LWRnewsDate=5/13/2009#srilanka

 

Human Rights Groups Applaud Obama's Attention; Question Whether it is Too Little, Too Late
http://lankasrinews.com/view.php?2bIOoMe0ddlYo0ecBB4K3a4f5AA4d3cYd2cc2AmT2d434OX3a030Mm2e

 

Will Obama take full responsibility of Tamil homeland, ask Tamil circles
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29354

 

At UN, Sri Lankan Carnage Boiled Down to 9 Paragraph Press Statement, Starvation
http://www.innercitypress.com/un2may8srilanka051309.html

 

Tamils crowd downtown Toronto streets in latest protest
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/05/13/tamil-wednesday.html

 

On Sri Lanka, PM has a chance to lead

http://www.cfrb.com/node/927799

 

Tamils get in staid old city's face
http://www.thestar.com/article/634125

 

Tamil rally spills into streets
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/634115

 

Medics helpless amid Sri Lanka blitz
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/634132

 

Tamils deserve straight talk
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20090514.COWENT14ART1950/TPStory/?query=lanka+or+tamil

 

Sri Lanka rejects ceasefire pleas
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090514/wl_asia_afp/srilankaunrest_20090514072319;_ylt=AgPCS3lXEL5h_sbHZU96_.jtOrgF

 

Tamils earn goodwill - then lose it
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090514.wtamils14art2259/BNStory/National/home

 

Security Council issues a press statement on SL
http://tamilnational.com/news-flash/1017-security-council-issues-press-statement.html

 

Families of dead Sri Lankan soldiers speak with WSWS
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/may2009/slwa-m14.shtml

 

Distant voices, desperate lives
http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=533

 

Sri Lanka official denies claims of army shelling
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2009/05/200951404310113970

 

My Support of the Tamil Community in Canada - Explained
http://laforet.ca/2009/05/12/my-support-of-the-tamil-community-in-canada-explained/

 

PUCL calls for UN military intervention and war crimes trials of Sri Lankan leaders
http://pucl.org/Topics/International/2009/lanka_crisis.html


Sri Lanka warned on 'war crimes'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8050244.stm

 

Situation Report [May14]: Hospital defunct, photos talk

http://tamilnational.com/news-flash/1024-situation-report-may-14.html


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The UN Security Council statement is PATHETIC .  It's a priority of the current UNGA President to reform the Security Council and even our Conservative MP agrees on this (it was the only thing we agreed on in a recent conversation, aside from stopping the Afghan 'mission' aggression, but i'd like that to stop now and he says 2011.) maybe he wants the UN Sec. Council to be reformed to give the US more power, which wouldn't be good either.  Obviously it needs to get rid of veto powers and become democratic, and inclusive of the 192 countries in the UNGA.


Sean in Ottawa
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Other countries cannot go in and control what is on the ground. This is not a viable option as it would be extreme interference.

The Tigers themselves are well known to have committed atrocities of their own.

I don't find the statement "Tigers do value their cause to the point that their lives become nothing," encouraging.

If I accept the descriptions being broadcast about conditions, this looks like certain disaster while a surrender option looks like a potential peaceful solution. No, I would not compare the treatment Tamil civilians would recieve in an area where the Tigers are suspected to remain with a situation where the Tigers have ended the war.

It still looks to me that the losing side in a war in which they have also committed atrocities is prepared to use the plight of civilians to get our attention but then turn and say thei cause is greaer than the lives of their people. Bluntly, you can't have that both ways.

I recognize the passion of war and the distrust. However, this situation looks a lot more complicated than the Tigers want us to believe. There is good reason why Western countries need to be careful about getting involved. To be blunt, as long as there is a war there, it is almost inconcievable that any outside force is going to intervene. It is not clear that this would save lives as it might only prolong a war. With the laying down of arms by the Tigers, at least then we could advocate a United Nations peace keepign force. Without that we have the losing side in a horrible war manipulating public opinion using the plight of civilians without actually doing everything they can to secure their safety.

It is a fact that people believe wars can be worth fighting even though their is a human cost. But when both of the combattants continue to have more faith in war than willingness to attempt peace then the outside can do nothing. If the Tigers want widespread public sympathy for the Tamil people, they will need to end the fighting on their side. This would do far more to move people to want to help from outside than blocking streets.

I am incredibly sympathetic to the civilian Tamils but am yet to be convinced that the Tamil Tigers are more concerned about them than a losing war or that they can offer anything but more misery to the population. Your post supports that opinion in spite of yourself. If there is an ongoing slaughter already- what protection are the Tamils offering? Or is it the deaths of civilians that the Tigers are trying to use for protection?

And no, I was not thinking about Japan.

There coems a time when people need to put the lives of civilians above political causes and only when they do so can their appeal to the outside world be compelling. Sorry to be rough but this needed to be said. Any argument to the contrary looks like propaganda to me.

(By the way, I have had two Tamil friends decades apart who both confided that they were being harassed by Tiger supporters here to be involved in their cause here. This is not a unique allegation. It is time for peace and the Tigers are going to have to come to that realization as they are not going to win this war. How many people will die first?)

I am not excusing the governemtn and am not taking the side of the government against the people. I am taking the side of the people agaisnt the combattants on both sides.


Sean in Ottawa
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With the barrage of one-sided articles on the situation here is another point of view

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/04/20/f-tamil-tigers.html


Sean in Ottawa
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http://www.canada.com/news/Tamil+Tigers+reap+what+they+sown/1575719/stor...

Another one

I am not saying that one side is right and the other side is wrong but what we are lookign for is Babble being practically spammed with tens and tens of articles that are extremely selective.

That serves a purpose of war not one of peace.


Sean in Ottawa
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Many rebel fighters wear glass vials filled with cyanide around their necks and are under orders to commit suicide rather than allow themselves to be captured.

Last week, two prominent rebels — the group's former media spokesman, Velayutham Dayanithi, known as Daya Master, and an interpreter for its political wing, known only as George — also surrendered.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090426.wsrilankatam...


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read this editorial in the Guelph Mercury

http://news.guelphmercury.com/article/473550

No it is not clear what the truth is but it certainly is not as simple as some here want us to believe.


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Sean in Ottawa wrote:
I am not excusing the governemtn and am not taking the side of the government against the people. I am taking the side of the people agaisnt the combattants on both sides.

Then you consider both combattants to be resposible for the misery of the Tamil people which is understandable. Then why do you expect one side to give up and the other side to have absolute control over the lives of the Tamils?

You might argue that it would put an end to the killings. Think about it, the government is refusing to even allow access to the people in govenrment camps, are you expecting that they will give free access after the Tigers are finished?

If the Internatioanl community even at this moment can't tame Sri Lanka and can only release statement, what makes you think the Internatioal community will do something meaningful other then release empty statement after the Tigers surrender?

Is it right to ask the Tamil community to give up thier only mean of protection when no one else is willing to take up that responsiblity?


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Sean in Ottawa wrote:

With the barrage of one-sided articles on the situation here is another point of view

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/04/20/f-tamil-tigers.html

 

The CBC had another article about the Tamil Tigers before this one which was like a version of what the Sri Lankan government wanted to hear about the Tamil Tigers. I know this because I was one of many that sent letter to the editor to look into it and CBC eventually published a new one. I might not agree with some of the things that are said but it is better then the last one. Now talking about Tamil Tigers without highlighting the oppression faced by the Tamils before 70's is out of contents. You cannot explain about the Tigers in 1000 word article. The section where it talks about "In 1983, 13 Sinhalese soldiers........" does not give you a full view of the entire situation that lead up to the riot. During those times many state oppression were happening to the Tamil people and the Tigers were just bunch of 15+ boys (with rusty pistols that they couldn't afford for bullets) that the Tamil people were not ready to support in anyways. Why did they target the convoy that carried those Sinhalese soldiers in which 13 would end up getting killed? Less then a week before the exact 13 soldiers and other soldiers kidnapped a young Tamil women and gang raped her to death. The government actually encouraged these kinds of incidents in Tamil areas and justice is far from sight. These 15+ boys decided to deliver that justice and targeted the soldier's convoy and blasted them. The government officials warned the President not to bring the dead soldiers to the Capital for mass funeral as it will spark another riots (riots on Tamil is not a new phenomenon as they had many before that as well). Ignoring their advice the president brought the soldiers and the riot broke out as him and his ministers wanted. Army and police stood by and watched, the monks and mobs had voters list to target the Tamil people properties and so on. And when the London newspaper asked about the situation to the president this is what he had to say:

 

... I am not worried about the opinion of the Jaffna people now... Now we cannot think of them. Not about their lives or of their opinion about us... The more you put pressure in the north, the happier the Sinhala people will be here... really, if I starve the Tamils out, the Sinhala people will be happy...

-- from an interview with J.R. Jeyawardene by Ian Ward. London Daily Telegraph, 11 July 1983.

Source: http://www.blackjuly83.com/Quotes.htm


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Sean in Ottawa wrote:

http://www.canada.com/news/Tamil+Tigers+reap+what+they+sown/1575719/stor...

Another one

I am not saying that one side is right and the other side is wrong but what we are lookign for is Babble being practically spammed with tens and tens of articles that are extremely selective.

That serves a purpose of war not one of peace.

 

Neelan Thiruchelvam was no angel either, people who don't know the full story might seem like an angel, but most of the Tamils view him as an opportunist politician who was willing to compromise the Tamil peoples political aspirations. Yes, he was a moderate that didn't believe in violence, same type that existed before the Tigers or any other armed movements for the Tamil who plunged the Tamil people into useless souls and watched so many riots powerless to stop or even request the president or the prime minster to take action. He was discussing and drafting a solution with then president Chandrika Kumarathunga (which would have never passed in the parliament as her own party members openly declared that no devolution to the Tamils at any cost). She needed a Tamil to showcase to the world that she was working on a solution and Neelan Thiruchelvam was her perfect candidate. His proposals were less then what the Tamils expected and still gave the Sinhalese majority control over the lives of the minority Tamils. His assassination was never investigated and just directly blamed on the Tigers, which is of course the usual practice. Chandrika Kumarathunga father who was then the prime minster of Ceylon was assassinated by a Buddhist Monk because supposedly he was trying to devolve power to the Tamils (ironically the same prime minister who was responsible for the language act which would devastate the entire country and torn up an agreement with Tamil political leader because about 300 protesters requested him to right in front of his residence).


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Sean in Ottawa wrote:

Many rebel fighters wear glass vials filled with cyanide around their necks and are under orders to commit suicide rather than allow themselves to be captured.

Last week, two prominent rebels — the group's former media spokesman, Velayutham Dayanithi, known as Daya Master, and an interpreter for its political wing, known only as George — also surrendered.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090426.wsrilankatam...

George is a paid interpreter of the political wing and never a part of the rebel movement. Daya Master, I don't have much information on him, but he is not part of the decision makers and another paid and retired civil servant of the LTTE's administration. Beside did any of the international media get to interview them? Only state controlled media interviewed them and the rest of the world published what the Sri Lankan government gives out as a handout on their press conference. This is where the lack of international media and monitors come into question? Why is Sri Lanka not allowing outside people to witness this war?

I have also posted articles from AP (including BHARATHA MALLAWARACHI), in my posts before.


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 Sean,

 As a Tamil I can tell you this, when I lived in LTTE controlled area all my family had to worry about is the surprise drop of bombs by the Sri Lankan Air Force. When I lived in Colombo, my family didn't have to worry about Sri Lankan Air Force but we had to worry about who is going to get arrested by Sri Lankan Police, when my dad would sent money from Canada as no one was able to get a job, and I can keep on listing.....(pretty much everything else except for Sri lankan Air Force)

 For the Tamils it's not about if the LTTE is good or not (Yes, we know the crimes they committed better then anyone else and they did not commit it because they thought it would be fun to do so), it is about living freely and making our own choice. Which means, no arrest because we are Tamils, no bombing, no sexual abuse, no disappearance, able to communicate in our language, and I can keep on listing this as well.......


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Sean in Ottawa wrote:

 

read this editorial in the Guelph Mercury

http://news.guelphmercury.com/article/473550

No it is not clear what the truth is but it certainly is not as simple as some here want us to believe.

First, you need to question how much knowledge this person (GWYNNE DYER) has of the island when you read something like this:

 

"The prime minister, Mahinda Rajapaksa, is a nasty piece of work, and his brother Gotabaya, the defence secretary, is even nastier."

 

Mahinda Rajapaksa is the President of Sri Lanka. Does he even know that that Sri Lanka is a republic and the queen is no longer the head of state?

 


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The last stand of Sri Lanka's Tamils - in Canada?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0514/p06s01-woam.html

 

Protest backlash unearths racism
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/lorrie_goldstein/2009/05/14/9451756-sun.html

 

CBC Interviews Phillip Koneswaran (ITR) - LTTE Sri Lanka
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As2an4F1Y18

 

Tamils hunt for news of relatives
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8039621.stm

 

Sri Lanka army 'in final stage'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8051206.stm

 

NYT highlights satellite evidence of Sri Lanka's criminal culpability
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29367

 

British Tamil contests seat for European Parliament

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29366

 

'Safety zone' in smoke, close-quarter fighting is on
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29368

 

In blood steeped
http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13649343&fsrc=rss

 

Canadian urges end to Sri Lanka war
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/05/14/Canadian-urges-end-to-Sri-Lanka-war/UPI-73891242340997/

 

SRI LANKA: Intl Condemnation Mounts, Along With Body Count
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=46847

 

IMF loan for Sri Lanka not appropriate right now: Clinton
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5h5W4Joxu6Q_w1YTk4MloheT-GsEg

 

Due to the overwhelming response to the Sri Lankan issue, CNN has opened another forum on Sri Lanka. Please leave your comments. Please forward.
http://internationaldesk.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/14/leave-sri-lanka-commen...
http://internationaldesk.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/12/sri-lankan-windfall/

 

After loud protests and wide backlash, McGuinty finds right words on Tamils
http://www.thestar.com/article/634667

 

A race against time in Sri Lanka's camps
http://www.alertnet.org/db/blogs/55987/2009/04/15-082135-1.htm

 

Sri Lanka vows to beat Tamil rebels within 48 hours
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090515/twl-sri-lanka-vows-to-beat-tamil-rebels-696b303.html

 

EU against Sri Lankan 'final assault' on Tamil rebels
http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/1242396121.37


UK "Appalled" Red Cross Blocked In Sri Lanka - Minister
http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=200905150633dowjonesdjonline000463&title=uk-appalled-red-cross-blocked-in-sri-lanka---minister

 

Sri Lankan president says civil war in 'final phase'

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/05/15/sri.lanka.fighting.president/index.html?eref=rss_latest

 

Over 4000 injured, many with burn injuries, desperate for evacuation - SLA use white phosphorous, chemical weapons
http://tamilnational.com/news-flash/1038-burn-injured-require-immediate-evacuation.html

 

Analysis: China arms may have secured Sri Lanka rout of Tigers
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6295258.ece

 

Post Indian elections: Life and or death for Eelam Tamils
http://www.tamilnational.com/worlds-view/tnn-ireport/1036-post-indian-elections.html

 

Sri Lankan army 'encircling' last refuge of Tamil rebels
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/15/sri-lanka-fighting-united-nations

 

Military press on despite Sri Lanka calls
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/military-press-on-despite-sri-lanka-calls-1685350.html

 

UN Human Rights chief calls for Sri Lanka inquiry
http://www.opendemocracy.net/terrorism/article/security_briefings/150509

 

‘Dying Without Treatment'
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/asia_pacific/aposdying+without+treatmentapos/3148257

 

Tamil Tigers fighting to bitter end
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/634767


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Bloodbath will not resolve the conflict: Pathmanathan
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29375

 

Tigers will regroup with a vengeance' - FT
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29376

 

UN genocide expert wants ceasefire, UN investigators want war probes
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29377

 

 

Mano Ganeshan urges government to publicize details of Vanni detainees
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29380


LTTE takes heed to Obama's call: Pathmanathan
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29381


Sri Lanka to buy military helicopters from Russia
http://en.rian.ru/world/20090515/155021542.html


SRI LANKA: Trade Partners Considering Economic Pressure
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=46870

 

Careless talk warning issued in Sri Lanka
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/15/sri-lank-channel-4


CNN's Errol Barnett talks with a Tamil man who is using the web to help his brother caught in fighting in Sri Lanka.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/ireports/2009/05/15/barnett.sri.lanka.irpt.cnn?iref=videosearch

 

Tamil protest becomes Yonge-Dundas sit-in
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/635387


Scarborough fire related to Sri Lankan conflict, monk says
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/635432

 

Sri Lanka military cuts off rebel sea escape
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/635433

 

Sri Lanka rebels 'are defeated'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8053542.stm


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thank you thirusuj for your helpful responses to questions.  and i'm actually glad the questions were raised as it gave space for your excellent commentary, on the context and reality and how these get twisted by lazy and co-opted int'l 'media' (owned by corporations doing business with allies of the war criminals.)

here's a thought too that struck me after hearing a Care worker report on CBC yesterday, relating a story told her by an 8 year old Tamil refugee, that talked of getting bombed, but not by whom.  if the LTTE is supposedly keeping Tamil civilians by force, why do we never hear stories of that from refugees, only from state mouthpieces? no doubt the overwhelming voice would be as we've already heard from the diaspora, putting themselves into concentration camps of starvation, disappearances, rape and torture would be worse.

even our professional public broadcaster can't find it in itself to ask good questions.  so it's really good you've put the fightback in the context of a history of struggle where all peaceful avenues have been squashed viciously to date, where the people have had to resort to desperate measures in a sickening and overwhelmingly disgusting onslaught by overlords and the international community.

Shame on us all who allow this to go on.

 


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Sri Lanka soldiers fight Tamil Tigers, trapping civilians on beach
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6297234.ece

 

Sri Lanka faces 'unimaginable humanitarian catastrophe'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6291323.ece

 

An exercise in cynicism
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_article/article6297047.ece

 

Chinese support crucial to Sri Lankan victory over Tamils
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6297463.ece

 

GRAPHIC: Endgame for the Tigers
http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/pdfs/tigers_16052009.pdf


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Just now on CBC World Report 7 am, first up in the news is this Sri Lankan official, a doctor with a British accent,  saying he's 'relieved' that 50,000 people have left the zone [been forcibly displaced from their homes facing a final total bombardment by the army, after months of cluster bombs, shelling, and white phosphorus] the movement of whom was their 'goal'.  What a sick admission.

Are the people still left alive with their limbs intact, going to be allowed to go back to what's left of their homes?  Will they get food and medical treatment?  Or will they get left in concentration camps behind barbed wire for years ?  What justice will be found in international courts so that the state is held to account for its war crimes?

I am completely outraged that Canadian media simply parrot the dictatorship's line, and not another word.

Harper's cuts are turning the screws even tighter on our journalists.  And they don't even face disappearance and death as their courageous Tamil counterparts do.

Goose-stepping Canadian media. 

This will not be the end of it.

We just need reporters with backbone.

I guess that's what rabble is for, and non-corporate controlled sources elsewhere.

 

 


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Well, another point of view is that both sides wanted to fight. Reap what you sow.

Tigers concede as Sri Lanka's long war reaches climax

Reuters

May 17, 2009 at 8:36 AM EDT

The Tamil Tigers conceded defeat in Sri Lanka's 25-year civil war on Sunday, after launching waves of suicide attacks to repel a final assault by troops determined to annihilate them.

President Mahinda Rajapaksa had declared victory over the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) the day before, even as combat raged in the island's northeast and the military said it was freeing the last of thousands of trapped civilians.

By midday Sunday, the military said troops had freed all the civilians being held by the LTTE inside an area that was less than a single square kilometre. A total of 72,000 had fled since Thursday, it said.

LTTE founder-leader Vellupillai Prabhakaran's fate remained a mystery, although military sources said a body believed to be his was recovered and its identity was being confirmed.

The LTTE, founded on a culture of suicide before surrender, had shown no sign of giving up. Suicide fighters blew themselves up on the front line on Sunday morning, and more than 70 were killed trying to flee overnight, the military said. But by afternoon the military said fighting had slowed, and the pro-rebel web site www.TamilNet.com released a statement from the LTTE's head of international relations saying: “This battle has reached its bitter end.” “We remain with one last choice – to remove the last weak excuse of the enemy for killing our people. We have decided to silence our guns,” Selvarajah Pathmanathan's statement said. The military had no immediate comment. Mr. Pathmanathan, who is wanted by Interpol and was for years the LTTE's chief weapons smuggler, said 3,000 people lay dead and 25,000 more were wounded. Getting an independent picture of events in the war zone is normally a difficult task, given both sides have repeatedly distorted accounts to suit their side of the story and outside observers are generally barred from it.

 

 


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Hail to the chief for his deft handling of the Tamil protests
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20090516.BARBER16ART1756/TPStory/?query=lanka+or+tamil

 

Beyond the bullhorn
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090516.wxtamils16art1754/BNStory/National/?page=rss&id=RTGAM.20090516.wxtamils16art1754

 

Brown warns Sri Lanka over conflict
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090516/tuk-brown-warns-sri-lanka-over-conflict-a7ad41d.html

 

Fears grow for safety of doctors who reported civilian slaughter
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/17/tamil-tigers-sri-lanka-doctors

 

Fears of mass suicide as Tamil Tigers face final defeat
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6301821.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797093

 

Protests won't end, activist promises

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/635579

 

Dignity and respect for our people is all we ask - Pathmanathan
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29389

 

 

 

25,000 civilians injured to death while IC watches: Soosai
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29390


Sri Lanka rebels 'call ceasefire'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8054169.stm

 

Tamil Tigers announce plan to surrender
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/17/tamil-tigers-surrender


Tigers concede as Sri Lanka's long war reaches climax
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090517.wsrilanka0517/BNStory/International/home


Tamil Tigers admit defeat
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/635639


Sri Lanka declares victory over Tigers
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/sri+lanka+declares+victory+over+tigers/3149957


Tamil Tigers warn of mass suicide
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6301926.ece

 

'Responsibility now with US'
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29391

 

Taming of Tamil Tigers threatens to breed fiercer creatures
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/17/sri-lanka-tamil-tigers-analysis

 

The crisis in Sri Lanka - a conflict without winners
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/17/sri-lanka-tamil-conflict


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Sri Lanka says war over, rebel leader killed

Quote:
Sri Lanka declared Monday it had crushed the Tamil Tiger rebels, killing their chief, Velupillai Prabhakaran, and ending his three-decade quest for an independent homeland for minority Tamils. [...]

Senior military officials said troops closed in on Prabhakaran and his final cadre early Monday.

He and his top deputies then drove an armor-plated van accompanied by a bus filled with rebel fighters toward approaching Sri Lankan forces, sparking a two-hour firefight, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media.

Troops eventually fired a rocket at the van, ending the battle, they said. In addition to Prabhakaran, the attack also killed Soosai, the head of the rebels' naval wing, and Pottu Amman, the group's feared intelligence commander, the officials said. One of Prabhakaran's sons was also killed, the military said.


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As Sri Lanka Holds Doctors Incommunicado, UN Deaf and Dumb
http://www.innercitypress.com/un3may2srilanka051609.html

 

In Sri Lanka, No Access to Carnage Until Victory Speech, UN Lowers Expectations
http://www.innercitypress.com/un3may3srilanka051709.html

 

Sri Lanka stocks up on 'victory'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8054931.stm

 

Tamil temple forlorn as war ends
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Tamil+temple+forlorn+ends/1605479/story.html


Brussels calls for full UN access to Sri Lanka war zone
http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/1242636422.4

 

Effigy of David Miliband burnt on streets of Sri Lankan capital

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6310422.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797093


EU demands Sri Lanka war inquiry

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8054821.stm


Sri Lankan beach was 'unimaginable hell'
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/05/18/2573001.htm


Tamil Tigers admit defeat after battle reaches 'bitter end'

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6305401.ece


Four senior Tamil Tigers 'dead'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8054826.stm

 

 

 

Sri Lankan rebel leader 'killed'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8055015.stm


Tigers finished as military force
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8055138.stm


Mahinda's accounts crime
http://tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=79&artid=29403

 

Colombo 'ended' the battle with a massacre
http://tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29402


DNA tests on body of Prabhakaran, Sri Lankan rebel leader

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6313072.ece


World Agenda: Victory over Tamil Tigers may radicalise a new generation

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/world_agenda/article6311896....


The Real Culprits behind Sri Lankan War
http://my.telegraph.co.uk/richarddixons/blog/2009/05/18/the_real_culprits_behind_sri_lankan_war

 

VANANGAMAN - Mercy mission to Vanni ship en route to Sri Lanka
http://tamilnational.com/news-flash/1061-mercy-mission-to-vanni-ship.html

 

Sri Lanka: What Kind of "Victory"?
http://www.alertnet.org/db/blogs/3159/2009/04/17-200024-1.htm

 

Where are the images of horror from Sri Lanka?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6307730.ece


Rebels Routed in Sri Lanka After 25 Years of War
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/18/world/asia/18lanka.html?_r=1&em

 

Amid the confusion, it is clear there was carnage
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/amid-the-confusion-it-is-clear-there-was-carnage-20090518-bcpp.html

 

The Tamil Tigers' long fight explained

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/05/18/sri.lanka.conflict.explainer/

 

Sri Lanka declares 'final victory'
http://english.aljazeera.net//news/asia/2009/05/200951894411100908.html

 

An end to the war?
http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13684069

 

The bitter end: Tamils lay down arms
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/the-bitter-end-tamils-lay-down-arms-1686767.html

 

Tamil Tigers failed to learn from tsunami tragedy
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090517.wsrilankafirstperson18/BNStory/Front


Disbelief, tears and prayer greet news of Tigers' defeat
http://www.thestar.com/Article/635797


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this item says there are 25,000 people still left in the conflict zone, and that the Sri Lankan army is "on a fierce attack to wipe them all" out.

http://www.tamilnational.com/indian-news/tamil-nadu/1070-dont-believe-fa...

meanwhile we get mainstream reports that ongoing bombing was from Tigers blowing themselves up.  more of the blame game coverup.  not that they didn't have a pact, but it was with cyanide.

 


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Thirusuj, thank you so much for these articles. Your excellent grabs from the net have really helped me gain a deeper understanding of this conflict.


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This is a nice article from Rabble:

 

Sri Lanka: Finishing the work of the tsunami

http://rabble.ca/news/2009/05/sri-lanka-finishing-work-tsunami


thirusuj
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After the Tigers' defeat, the abuse of Tamils must stop
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/18/sri-lanka-war-tamil-tigers


Lessons of war from Tigers' defeat
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8057118.stm

 

Winning the peace in Sri Lanka

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8056734.stm

 

Sri Lanka leader hails 'victory'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8056752.stm

 

Velupillai Prabhakaran: Leader of the Tamil Tigers
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/velupillai-prabhakaran-leader-of-the-tamil-tigers-1687239.html

 

Obituary: Velupillai Prabhakaran
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/19/obituary-velupillai-parbhakaran-sri-lanka


The making of a militant leader
http://www.hindu.com/2009/05/19/stories/2009051960070900.htm


The day I met Prabhakaran
http://news.rediff.com/column/2009/may/19/the-day-i-met-prabhakaran.htm

 

Peter Popham: Prabhakaran talked of peace. But the man I met was doomed to die in action
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/peter--popham-prabhakaran-talked-of-peace-but-the-man-i-met-was-doomed-to-die-in-action-1687198.html


Tamils protest against Sri Lanka 'genocide'
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/05/19/2574396.htm

 

Sri Lankan community calls for calm
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/05/19/2574336.htm

 

Tamil Canadians say they doubt rebel leader killed
http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090518/Tamil_protest_090518/20090518?hub=TorontoNewHome

 

U.S. urges Sri Lanka to reach out to Tamils
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N18406359.htm

 

In Sri Lanka, Doctors Detained As UN's Ban to Visit with Press, Ethnic Aid
http://www.innercitypress.com/un3may5srilanka051809.html

 

Sri Lanka's untold story
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/19/tamil-cause-global-awareness


Tamil protest in London turns violent
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090519/wl_sthasia_afp/srilankaunrestworld_20090519092336

 

Don't ignore Tamil cry for self-government, Solheim tells Sri Lanka
http://www.indiaenews.com/india/20090519/198912.htm

 

Sri Lankan President Calls for Unity as Rebels Deny Leader Is Dead
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/20/world/asia/20lanka.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss

 

Sri Lanka, after the war
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2009/05/19/sri_lanka_after_the_war/?rss_id=Boston+Globe+--+Editorial%2FOp-ed+pages


Sri Lankan military shows 'body of Tamil Tiger leader Prabhakaran' on TV

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6317354.ece

 

After Years of Fighting, Questions of Reconciliation
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/19/AR2009051900220.html?wprss=rss_world/asia

 

Belief in Tamil Eelam will be harder for Sri Lanka to defeat
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6314979.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797093

 

Police hurt as UK Tamil protests turn violent
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6318871.ece

 

The Tigers are beaten but it isn't over yet
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6314769.ece

 

Sri Lankans celebrate end of conflict
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/19/sri-lanka-conflict-tamil-tigers


Sri Lanka: dead body of Tamil Tiger leader Velupillai Prabhakaran is shown by army
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/srilanka/5348860/Sri-Lanka-dead-body-of-Tamil-Tiger-leader-Velupillai-Prabhakaran-is-shown-by-army.html

 

Bring Sri Lankan refugees to Canada, Ottawa urged
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090518.wTamilscanada19/BNStory/International/

 

New struggles emerge in a wounded Sri Lanka

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090518.wlankamain19/BNStory/International/?page=rss&id=RTGAM.20090518.wlankamain19

 

Sri Lankan president makes victory address
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090519.wsrilanka0519/BNStory/International


Sri Lanka says photo shows rebel leader is dead
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/636135

 

Displaced Sri Lankans in need of food aid
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/636160

 

Jubilation makes Tamil minority uneasy
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/636065


Farah Mihlar: Neither side has any reason to celebrate
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/farah-mihlar-neither-side-has-any-reason-to-celebrate-1687197.html


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Sri Lanka lost confidence of Tamils: Pathmanathan

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29408

 

War crime in the massacre of LTTE officials
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29409


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We wish to bring to the notice of the International Community the events of the last 24 hours in the so called safety zone in the war in Sri Lanka.

Subsequent to our announcement that the LTTE had decided to "silence the guns" in view of the unbearable civilian carnage at the hands of the Sri Lankan military and the heavy weaponry donated to it by third parties, we were informed by some member states of the International Community that arrangements had been made with the Sri Lankan military for discussions on an orderly end to the war.

We were instructed to make contact with the 58th Division of the Sri Lankan forces in the war zone, un-armed and carrying white flags. Head of our Political Wing, Mr. B. Nadesan and Mr. Puleedevan then proceeded to do so. They were un-armed and carrying white flags and were called on by the Officers of the 58th Division to come forward for discussions. When they complied they were both shot and killed. We vehemently condemn this action. The International Community needs to take this into account in its deliberations about charges of "Crimes against Humanity" against the members of the Sri Lanka Government and its military establishment. This act is even more unpalatable when one takes into account that the LTTE released as an act of goodwill, seven Sri Lankan Prisoners of War the day before totally unharmed.

We appeal to the International Community to act now to ensure the safety and basic needs of the displaced people who are suffering in the prison camps of the Sri Lankan military. The onus is now on the International Community to see that further war crimes and crimes against humanity are not committed on Tamils by the Sri Lankan state and to force the Sri Lankan state to yield in to the political aspirations of the Tamil people.


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thirusuj wrote:

Sean in Ottawa wrote:
I am not excusing the governemtn and am not taking the side of the government against the people. I am taking the side of the people agaisnt the combattants on both sides.

Then you consider both combattants to be resposible for the misery of the Tamil people which is understandable. Then why do you expect one side to give up and the other side to have absolute control over the lives of the Tamils?

You might argue that it would put an end to the killings. Think about it, the government is refusing to even allow access to the people in govenrment camps, are you expecting that they will give free access after the Tigers are finished?

If the Internatioanl community even at this moment can't tame Sri Lanka and can only release statement, what makes you think the Internatioal community will do something meaningful other then release empty statement after the Tigers surrender?

Is it right to ask the Tamil community to give up thier only mean of protection when no one else is willing to take up that responsiblity?

What does the Tamil community expect Canada and the international community to do? This is the same international community that has accomplished zero in Rwanda, Sudan, the Congo, etc., etc. And the places where we have intervened have gone horribly. I would support economic sanctions, however I know that in other countries where this has been tried (Iraq), it has hurt innocent civilians even more and allowed for corruption and abuse.  Once it is safe to enter the country, I support aid.

I would not support any armed intervention by Canadians and I would assume most babblers feel likewise. 

What would your ideal response be thrisuj and thanks - and in your opinion what would be the ideal response by the Cdn Tamil community?


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http://www2.parl.gc.ca/Content/HOC/Committee/402/FAAE/Reports/RP3895627/402_FAAE_Rpt05_PDF/402_FAAE_Rpt05-e.pdf

CANADA

From the Foreign Affairs Committee Report

List of Recommendations

Recommendation 1

The Government of Canada should continue to call upon all parties in Sri Lanka to immediately cease fire and end hostilities.

Recommendation 2

The Government of Canada should redouble its efforts in cooperation with other states to meet the humanitarian needs of all civilians in northeastern Sri Lanka, including those still in the combat zone and those in IDP camps, by securing a sufficient humanitarian pause and through international supervision of assistance.

Recommendation 3

The Government of Canada should stand ready to increase Canadian assistance to Sri Lanka in collaboration with other partners, as on-the-ground assessments and capacity to absorb warrant, not only for relief purposes but also for development and reconstruction. In addition to ensuring that assistance reaches those who need it most, the government should pursue a whole-of-government strategy to ensure that Canadian assistance of all sorts encourages longer-term reconciliation among communities in Sri Lanka

.
Recommendation 4

The Government of Canada should call on the United Nations Security Council to seriously engage itself in the resolution of the conflict in Sri Lanka, and to investigate the conduct of both parties during the conflict with respect to international law. The Government of Canada should also initiate a dialogue with the Government of Sri Lanka, in conjunction with the international community, aimed at laying the groundwork for a political reconciliation between the communities. If these efforts fail, the Government of Canada should consider financial and diplomatic sanctions, including, but not limited to, advocating for Sri Lanka's suspension from the Commonwealth, as well as incentives.


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How do you feel about those recommendations?


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Reference Post #81

It does not seem overly effective to me.

It seems like a whole lot of talk but not a lot of action.


thirusuj
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Ghislaine,


What I want are follow as I can think of from the back of my head:

-Canada pressure Sri Lanka to allow international media, monitors and international aid agencies (including the camps, Jaffna peninsula, the eastern province (basically all of Tamil Eelam) without any interference from the Sri Lankan state)
-Canada do its part to kick Sri Lanka out of the Commonwealth
-Demand for investigations of war crimes by all parties starting from independence from Britain (including discriminatory policies)
-Stop using my tax money to fund Sri Lanka directly or indirectly (economic and diplomatic sanctions)
-Canada pressure UN and support other countries to take action on Sri Lanka
-Remove the ban on the LTTE (also establish diplomatic ties so that Tamil Canadians and Canadian government can openly work with LTTE to effectively end the suffering of the Tamil people and reform the LTTE itself)
-Recognize the right to self-determination of the Tamil people internally or externally

 

What the Tamil community as a whole want are from the back of my head:

-Permanent ceasefire
-Get international media into the warzone including international aid agencies (including the camps)
-Diplomatic and economic sanctions
-Remove the ban on LTTE
-Recognize Tamil Eelam

 

What Canada has been doing so far:

-issuing empty statements
-criminalizing the Tamil people (especially through the conservative medias)
-listening to the Sri Lankan government only and ignoring the Tamil Canadians
-conservative party playing dirty politics using the Tamil issue

 

What I don't want Canada to do:

-Send in the Canadian armed forces unless it is part of the UN peace keeping mission (another country directly sending in its armed forces will make it even more complicated and as a Canadian our troops belong in the barracks unless Canada is in trouble)


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http://w01.international.gc.ca/MinPub/Publication.aspx?lang=eng&publicat...

 

May 19, 2009 (1:45 p.m. EDT)
No. 135

 

Statement by Minister Cannon on Recent Developments in Sri Lanka

 

The Honourable Lawrence Cannon, Minister of Foreign Affairs, today issued the following statement concerning recent developments in the conflict between the Government of Sri Lanka and the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam:

 

"Canadians are very concerned about the aftermath of the military action in Sri Lanka and the appalling effect it has had on civilians. This terrible, decades-long war has inflicted untold devastation and heartbreak on Sri Lankans. The Government of Canada wishes to express its concerns about civilian casualties, and to convey its condolences to the people of Sri Lanka and those around the world who have lost friends and family members in this horrific conflict.

 

"I spoke yesterday with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton to discuss the situation in Sri Lanka. We agreed that there is a need for the international community to coordinate assistance and support to the people of Sri Lanka, and that it will be important to work with the international community in urging the Government of Sri Lanka to cooperate with these efforts.

 

"We will work together to support the United Nations in providing humanitarian assistance. We call on the Government of Sri Lanka to give the United Nations and other international humanitarian agencies immediate access to internally displaced persons. Canada remains concerned about the fate of civilians.

 

"Canada urges the Government of Sri Lanka to begin to find a long-term political solution that responds to the legitimate aspirations of all the people of Sri Lanka. Canada is prepared to assist Sri Lankan efforts to find political reconciliation and a lasting peace."

 

- 30 -

 

For further information, media representatives may contact:

 

Natalie Sarafian
Press Secretary
Office of the Minister of Foreign Affairs
613-995-1851

 

Foreign Affairs Media Relations Office
Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada
613-995-1874
www.international.gc.ca/index.aspx


thirusuj
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Senate Foreign Relations on Sri Lanka
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/05/senate_foreign.html

 

Tamil doubts over rebel leader's death

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8057637.stm


'Victory' holiday in Sri Lanka

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8058844.stm

 

Peace hopes grip Sri Lankans

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8056426.stm

 

Tamil-Canadian group says Ottawa's offer to help Sri Lanka needs strict conditions
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=cp_guvc9rdh333&show_article=1

 

Tamil rights must now be respected
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/20/sri-lanka-tamil-tigers-ltte-war

 

The fight for survival goes on in Sri Lanka amid reports of 15,000 killed
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/19/sri-lankan-war

 

In Sri Lanka, UN Spokesman Has Last Visa, Press In For 2 Days, Banned From Zone?
http://www.innercitypress.com/un3may6srilanka051909.html


In Sri Lanka, UN's Ban Says He'll Visit Conflict Zone, Doctors Still in Custody
http://www.innercitypress.com/un3may7srilanka051909.html

 

Rebel defeat: diplomatic dilemma
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6322415.ece

 

Sri Lanka on brink of catastrophe as UN aid blocked
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6322658.ece


Voices: Tamil diaspora in shock

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8056176.stm


Tamils' issue: India rushes NSA to Colombo
http://news.rediff.com/report/2009/may/20/ltte-tamils-issue-india-rushes-nsa-to-colombo.htm

 

War's End in Sri Lanka: Bloody Family Triumph
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/20/world/asia/20lanka.html?_r=1&em


Rage And Despair In Sri Lanka Tamil Diaspora Overseas
http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=200905200258dowjonesdjonline000341&title=rage-and-despair-in-sri-lanka-tamil-diaspora-overseas

 

Sri Lanka destroys evidence, prevents ICRC, UN access - Prof. Boyle
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29415

 

Colombo urged to free Tamil doctors
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/05/200952071228861776.html


UNHCR concerned about conditions in IDP sites in Sri Lanka
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/UNHCR/60bc601215cd026a157523c58a14e893.htm


Prabhakaran's myth dies with him, dreams of Eelam live on
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090520.wlanka20art0010/BNStory/International/home

 

Brothers led decisive victory over Tamil Tigers
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/636698


Will Tamils' 'Sun God' live on?
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/636696


Sri Lanka: activists call for release of missing doctors
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/20/sri-lanka-doctors

 

This Monday marks the beginning of the third phase of our struggle for independence - Vows Canadian Tamils
http://lankasrinews.com/view.php?2b24OXH4a32f5Ac04dcmOo0da0eA4BL34d3LTmA2e0dM0MmUce03cYdJ2cc4XlY4be


Sri Lanka war over but war of words continues
http://www.thestar.com/Article/636697


thirusuj
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Sri Lanka Triumphant At Last
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-luce/sri-lanka-triumphant-at-l_b_204752.html

 

South Africa calls for investigations into violations of Geneva Conventions
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29427

 

How to Defeat Insurgencies: Sri Lanka's Bad Example
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1899762,00.html?imw=Y


Sinhala hoodlums harass Tamil civilians in the name of victory celebration

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29421

 

US to block financial support until Sri Lanka addresses Rights situation

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29426

 

Sri Lanka: over 250,000 displaced persons in urgent need of assistance
http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/html/sri-lanka-interview-200509

 

On Sri Lanka, of Human Rights, Victors and Doctors Still Detained, Ban to the Zone
http://www.innercitypress.com/un3may8srilanka052009.html


International Community Waits for Answers for Loss of Life in Sri Lanka's War Against Rebels
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-05-20-voa33.cfm?rss=asia


UN in plea for Tamil aid access

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8060232.stm


Tamil children 'being abducted'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8060564.stm


Sri Lanka's humanitarian challenge
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8058322.stm


Poll pledge for Sri Lanka Tamils
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8060718.stm


Jaya demands immediate rehabilitation of Tamils in Lanka
http://www.sakaaltimes.com/2009/05/21151420/Jaya-demands-immediate-rehabil.html


Australia - Tamils deserve safe haven: Opposition
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/5584680/tamils-deserve-safe-haven-opposition/

 

Eyewitness account of Sri Lankan detention camps
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/may2009/slcp-m21.shtml


India makes diplomatic push after Sri Lanka war ends
http://in.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idINSP43104120090521?sp=true


Activist seized from lawyer's car in Sri Lanka
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/20/sri-lanka-activists-relief-abductions

 

Quarter of a million Sri Lankans face two years in camps
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/20/refugees-face-two-years-in-srilanka-camps


Sri Lanka 'in resettlement vow'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8061623.stm


Sri Lanka: Child Soldiers Coalition calls for UN Special Envoy to urgently
investigate abductions and other abuses of children

http://www.child-soldiers.org/Sri_Lanka_Special_Envoy_press_statement_20may09.pdf


The defeat of the Tigers is welcome, but the conduct of the war is not

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6329468.ece


Battle begins to establish UN Sri Lankan war crimes investigation

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6329717.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797093


A Tragic Misdiagnosis: The Continued Suffering of Civilians Amongst Victory Celebrations in Sri Lanka
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nimmi-gowrinathan/a-tragic-misdiagnosis-the_b_205487.html


Interned Tamil refugees face two-year wait to return home
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/interned-tamil-refugees-face-twoyear-wait-to-return-home-1688641.html


Why all the fuss over Tamil street protests?
http://www.thestar.com/article/637250


Aid groups raise alarm over Sri Lanka refugees
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/637306


Blood on our hands, but this too shall pass
http://news.rediff.com/column/2009/may/19/guest-blood-on-our-hands-but-this-too-shall-pass.htm


Paramilitaries 'abducting Tamil children from Sri Lanka camps'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6332549.ece


Claims Of Abuse In Sri Lankan Refugee Camps
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Women-Raped-And-Men-Disappeared-In-Sri-Lanka-Refugee-Camps-Sky-News-Told/Article/200905315285938?lpos=World_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_5&lid=ARTICLE_15285938_Women_Raped_And_Men_Disappeared_In_Sri_Lan


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stay strong thirusuj I got a question for u b. The non-tamil ppl in the hood what kind of help can we be? I aint got money n I cant go downtown (dont know the way) what help can ppl be locally because u seen ppl are strugglin they cant put another's stuff ahead of their own cuz they wouldnt survive. A lot of ppl are at the protests cuz of family I respect that but u cant except ppl who aint tamil to come with that unfortunately is there a way to do something locally. Protest wouldnt work because nobody gives a shit if you blocc something in the hood. Majority of the ppl givin that moral support but that only goes so far what else can we do. Like also for the protest like thas yall thing to do like handle that they way Im seein it is that if others do come they wouldnt fully know what to do or communicate witha  lot of ppl or w.e like u know what I mean what can others do in the baccground. Voting in other follyticians aint the solution cuz that too long term need something now if u got an idea tell it. I know that already it bein shown as a criminal thing so riotin n shit would only prove that so we need to think of another way. What if ppl stopped payin taxes?, refusal to work wouldnt be as effective because esp the current time there nuff ppl there to replace. Even tho they take a lot of taxes out already if we could hit the gov hard economically maybe they'll listen a bit more. Idk the whole organization part but mayb that'll work comment bacc brotha na mean idk u got any ideas? cuz the protests alone aint workin gotta add something to the mix


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US Congressional Rights Group urge investigation into Sri Lanka crimes
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29431


Eyewitness: 'They are all patients'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8062207.stm


Sri Lankan army deaths revealed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8062922.stm


Toronto Tamils warn protests could continue
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/toronto-tamils-warn-of-more-protests/article1142263/

 

Sri Lanka: top UN official visits camps for uprooted civilians
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=30883&Cr=sri+lanka&Cr1=

 

US presses Sri Lanka for access to refugees
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hT3RSzQ5lwq5XYMTtClJFuyOHd4g

 

On Sri Lanka, IMF Said Ready to Lend, Dodges Ethnic Cleansing, Where Are Obama, UK?
http://www.innercitypress.com/imf4srilanka052109.html

 

Tamil diaspora sceptical over 'win'
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia-pacific/2009/05/2009520421048664.html


Tamils in Britain and Canada vow to sustain Sri Lanka struggle
http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0521/p06s12-woeu.html


Why the West ignored the Tamils' pleas

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/05/21/f-vp-stewart.html


In Sri Lanka the war is over but Tamil Tiger remnants suffer brutal revenge
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/21/sri-lanka-tamil-tigers-ltte-tamil-refugees-in-camp


Sri Lanka: Ban Visit Should Focus on Displaced
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/05/21/sri-lanka-ban-visit-should-focus-displaced

 

TAMIL CENTRE FOR HUMAN RIGHTS - TCHR/CTDH: Massacre of civilians and Peace Emissaries
http://www.tamilcanadian.com/page.php?cat=211&id=5756


Satellite images of Sri Lanka conflict used in war crimes inquiry
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6337805.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797093


UN official calls for Sri Lanka reconciliation
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/un-official-calls-for-sri-lanka-reconciliation-1689423.html

 

Statement by Ministers Cannon and Oda on the Situation in Sri Lanka: May 21, 2009
http://news.gc.ca/web/article-eng.do?m=/index&nid=452459


As Sri Lanka Savors Victory, Challenges Loom
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/21/AR2009052104335.html?wprss=rss_world/asia


Families trapped in Sri Lanka camps fear for missing children

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/families-trapped-in-sri-lanka-camps-fear-for-missing-children-1689240.html


In Sri Lanka, NGOs Asked for All Information, Frustrated with UN's Quiet Diplomacy

http://www.innercitypress.com/mou1srilanka052209.html


Risk of UN's Ban Being Manipulated by Sri Lanka Admitted by UN Official
http://www.innercitypress.com/untrip1may1srilanka052209.html


UN backs Sri Lanka on refugee camps
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/638504


Colombo warning to Australia on Tamil refugees
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,,25520161-2702,00.html?from=public_rss

 

''Sky News first-hand accounts of allegations Rapes and Kidnappings in Government refugee camps'' (VIDEO)
http://lankasrinews.com/view.php?2bIOoMe0dJlYy0ecLB443a4f5Ay4d3cYd3cc2AmT3d424OX3a030Mm2e


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Rexdale_Punjabi,

There are many letter, email campaigns etc that non-Tamils can participate. If you can talk about this issue (the political history, rise of LTTE etc...) to other non-Tamils and encourage others to do as well then it would be helpful as well. Another thing that I see that need to done by non-Tamils is commenting on articles, calling in on radio shows, sending email to writers who seem to be out of focus and don't have good knowledge on the Tamil people. I would say the limit for participation of non-Tamils has no end.

Money is not the issue for our community (we can raise good amount in a good period, we were so outraged when Canadian minister went to Sri Lanka announcing that she gave 3 million to the Si Lankan govermnet and announed further funding). I have a friend who grew up with his cousin and lived with his cousin and help raise his kid. Now he is in Canada doing very well. About 2 months ago he got a call from his cousin from the available satellite connection in the war zone to tell him that he is still alive and he might not get the chance to talk him again uless he is lucky. Then the phone was handed to the kid to talk and she asked if he can send some food. He was telling me this and couldn't control his tears. We have the money, what good is it when the government has food embargo? Now the people are in the camp or dead, what can we do when the government won't give access to these people and the camps (we are not going to give the money to the Sri Lankan goverment as our money will be used to sustain the military, beef up the economy and carry on this genocide)?


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thirusuj wrote:

Rexdale_Punjabi,

There are many letter, email campaigns etc that non-Tamils can participate. If you can talk about this issue (the political history, rise of LTTE etc...) to other non-Tamils and encourage others to do as well then it would be helpful as well. Another thing that I see that need to done by non-Tamils is commenting on articles, calling in on radio shows, sending email to writers who seem to be out of focus and don't have good knowledge on the Tamil people. I would say the limit for participation of non-Tamils has no end.

Money is not the issue for our community (we can raise good amount in a good period, we were so outraged when Canadian minister went to Sri Lanka announcing that she gave 3 million to the Si Lankan govermnet and announed further funding). I have a friend who grew up with his cousin and lived with his cousin and help raise his kid. Now he is in Canada doing very well. About 2 months ago he got a call from his cousin from the available satellite connection in the war zone to tell him that he is still alive and he might not get the chance to talk him again uless he is lucky. Then the phone was handed to the kid to talk and she asked if he can send some food. He was telling me this and couldn't control his tears. We have the money, what good is it when the government has food embargo? Now the people are in the camp or dead, what can we do when the government won't give access to these people and the camps (we are not going to give the money to the Sri Lankan goverment as our money will be used to sustain the military, beef up the economy and carry on this genocide)?

ye I know about the money part n that the most important but Steven harper is brain dead cant even say nothing on this still


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U.N. Leader Presses Sri Lanka on Speeding Relief to War Refugees in Camps
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/24/world/asia/24lanka.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss

 

How Sri Lanka's military won
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8063409.stm

 

Tamil Tigers admit leader is dead
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8066129.stm


Agony in Sri Lanka's refugee camp
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8065594.stm


Sri Lanka's new chapter

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/8064078.stm


UN chief in Sri Lanka access plea

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8064754.stm

 

 

Even in victory, secrecy and evasion prevail
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/24/sri-lanka-government-public-opinion


Tigers begged me to broker surrender
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6350563.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797093


United Nations "negotiator" on Sri Lanka payroll
http://puligal.blogspot.com/2009/05/united-nations-negotiator-on-sri-lanka.html

 

U.N. Chief Calls Sri Lanka War Zone 'Very Sobering'
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/23/AR2009052300782.html?hpid=topnews


Why Tamils are Canadians
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/lorrie_goldstein/2009/05/24/9550996-sun.html

 

Let the healing begin in Sri Lanka
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/let-the-healing-begin-in-sri-lanka/article1147386/


As UN's Ban Leaves Sri Lanka, Questions Unanswered, Complicity in War Crimes?
http://www.innercitypress.com/untrip2may5srilanka052409.html


Can Tamils see a future on the other side of Adam's Bridge?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/can-tamils-see-a-future-on-the-other-side-of-adams-bridge/article1150053/


Some Tamils hold out hope that leader lives
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/some-tamils-hold-out-hope-that-leader-lives/article1150896/


UN chief flies into Sri Lanka as Tamils' tales of terror emerge
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/24/ban-ki-moon-sri-lanka


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Any insight for us as to which of these contradictory stories are true, thirusuj?

 


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Any insight for us as to which of these contradictory stories are true, thirusuj?

 

Honestly, none of us know what to say. He has effectively created a Tamil national consensus, united all the Tamils around the world and has effectively put the Tamil issue in front of the international stage.

With the LTTE officially confirming his death even the excuse of his existence that will be used to commit violence and deny the rights of the Tamils have been wiped out.

I personally see this as a strategic move.


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tru it gonan force the Sinhalese gov to ease bacc or hide it better. Fucc b fucc them str8 up


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Sri Lanka ignores calls for refugee access
http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2009/05/23/sri_lanka_ignores_calls_for_refugee_access/


Imperialism and the Tamils
http://www.workers.org/2009/editorials/tamils_0528/


200,000 Tamil civilians imprisoned in Sri Lankan Manik Farm camp
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6355503.ece

 

30,000 civilians maimed in battle
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25530960-25837,00.html


Sri Lanka: child victims of the battle to end a bloody civil war
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/24/sri-lanka-children-civilian-casualties

 

Our leader Velupillai Prabakharan is dead, Tamil Tigers admit
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6355531.ece


Claims and scepticism sans evidence
http://tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29446

 

As Tamil MPs Are Rebuffed in Sri Lanka, UN's Ban in Denmark, No Answers

http://www.innercitypress.com/untrip2may6srilanka052509.html


Horror for civilians trapped in Sri Lanka's 'no-fire zone'

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6354888.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797093


MPs join rally to condemn killing of civilians in Sri Lanka
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/5/25/nation/3975827&sec=nation


A place where kids can be kids
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/639186


Deep rift remains in Sri Lanka, expert warns
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/front/Deep_rift_remains_in_Sri_Lanka_expert_warns.html?siteSect=105&sid=10722880&rss=true&ty=st

 

Sri Lanka: Human Rights Council should demand immediate access and accountability
http://www.amnesty.nl/voor_de_pers_artikel/48612


Lion, Tiger and lies
http://week.manoramaonline.com/cgi-bin/MMOnline.dll/portal/ep/theWeekContent.do?sectionName=Current+Events&contentId=5517792&programId=1073754900&pageTypeId=1073754893&contentType=EDITORIAL

 

War-ravaged Tamil population faces grim future
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/war-ravaged-tamil-population-faces-grim-future/article1149981/

 

Pictured: The ruined wasteland of Sri Lanka as 300,000 people are displaced after war with Tamil Tigers
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1187284/Pictured-The-r...


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thirusuj wrote:
Unionist wrote:
Any insight for us as to which of these contradictory stories are true, thirusuj?

 

Honestly, none of us know what to say. He has effectively created a Tamil national consensus, united all the Tamils around the world and has effectively put the Tamil issue in front of the international stage.

With the LTTE officially confirming his death even the excuse of his existence that will be used to commit violence and deny the rights of the Tamils have been wiped out.

I personally see this as a strategic move.

Interesting, to see what happens now actually then.


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UN Watch disappointed over 'toothless' resolution on SL
http://lankasrinews.com/view.php?2bIOoMe0dnlYy0ecLB4S3a4f5Ao4d3cYd3cc2AmT3d434OX3a030Mm2e

 

No way for Devolution of Power - JVP
http://lankasrinews.com/view.php?2bIOoMe0dnlYy0ecLB4S3a4f5AU4d3cYd2cc2AmT3d434OX3a030Mm2e

 

Lies, deception, complicit of war crime and GENOCIDE
http://api.ning.com/files/2Yr3J58zqaLyl7aZeCuXYuh*mW5EG1DmTGnXxEpkqDpkkvpfkCYmAO6tkd*C16Sx3vlnOj-AC0EqqdqWPgnD6Xq7VrcUSfN*/LIESDECEPTIONCOMPLICITOFWARCRIMEandGENOCIDE.htm

 

UN's Holmes Expected His Comments on Tamils Would Not Be Reported, Access Conditioned on Air-Brushed Coverage?
http://www.innercitypress.com/sri1holmes052309.html


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thirusuj wrote:

UN Watch disappointed over 'toothless' resolution on SL
http://lankasrinews.com/view.php?2bIOoMe0dnlYy0ecLB4S3a4f5Ao4d3cYd3cc2AmT3d434OX3a030Mm2e

 

UN Watch is a fanatic anti-UN pro-Israel organization. Here is an example of where they stand on issues of international justice.

Anyone who quotes their views favourably (like Lankasrinews.com) should watch their back.

 


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I guess that is why Harper is getting a human rights award then?


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With the Tamil people lost of LTTE's strength to defend, the geo-political game is becoming more open. Isreal which once was one the best friends of Sri Lanka has now changed the path.

This is Isreal-Sri Lanka relationship during 2000 when Tigers were on the verge of having control of the entire Tamil Eelam and declaring independence:

 

"While the LTTE continues its ``all-out'' offensive on Jaffna, Sri Lanka has acquired new fighter jets from Israel and is awaiting a shipload of arms from Pakistan, highly placed Government sources here said.
Sources pointed out that seven Israeli Kfir fighter jets had already arrived in Sri Lanka. Besides, Israel has also landed 24 containers of arms and equipment in Colombo.
The presence of Israeli Kfirs is meant to build the depleted stocks of the Sri Lankan Air Force. With the Sri Lankan Army losing ground, its Air Force which already has a handful of Kfirs is under pressure to deliver. The Air Force, analysts say, has to target the LTTE artillery which otherwise can impose enormous pressure on its ground troops in the Jaffna peninsula."

 

Israel went from being a major source of weapons for Sri Lanka to totally against it. Why? Sri Lanka's new friends are not very friendly to Israel. Here is the new Israel relationship with Sri Lanka in May 2009:

 

"WHO: Anti- Sri Lanka proposal defated
A proposal by Israel to send a comprehensive investigation team to Sri Lanka to inquire into what they termed as alleged human rights violations by the Government of Sri Lanka has been defeated by countries which are friendly with Sri Lanka at the 62nd General Assembly of the World Health Organisations.

Addressing journalists on his return to the island at the BIA, Health Minister Nimal Siripala De Silva said Israel brought forward a proposal calling for the United Nations and the World Health Organisation to send a high profile investigation team to inquire into alleged Human Rights violations perpetrated by the Government under the pretext of eradicating terrorism.

The Minister said the Israel representative attempted to mislead the WHO General Assembly citing that the Sri Lanka Government is engaged in violating Human Rights under the pretext of launching an operation against the terrorists and these right violations need to be investigated.


"Sri Lanka has been trading on the non alignment path and our friendly countries countered this threat in the form of Isreali proposal effectively," the minister said.

The Minister said the proposal was defeated among the strong objection by our friendly countries such as China, Russia and Japan. They cited that such an investigation is untimely and unwarranted when the country was rescued from the clutches of terrorism. They cited that the LTTE is responsible for violating the rights of the people.

Almost all representatives except Israel commended the Government's efforts to liberate the country from the clutches of terrorism . Talking of Human Rights by a country like Israel is hilarious, the Minister said.

All members of the World Health Organisation except Israel approved the appointment of Health Minister Nimal Siripala De Silva as the Chairman of the WHO at this august assembly."


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Sri Lanka rejects Tigers' offer

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Sri Lanka's defence secretary has rejected the Tamil Tigers' offer to enter a democratic process after their military defeat by government forces.

In an interview with the BBC, Gotabhaya Rajapaksa said the LTTE rebels could not be trusted to give up "terrorism".

"I do not believe the LTTE can enter a democratic process after years of their violent activities," Mr Rajapaksa said.

The rebels had said they would give up violence after their leader was killed in recent fighting in the north-east.

"I am not interested in LTTE at all," the defence secretary - the most senior civilian official in charge of the war against the Tamil Tigers - told the BBC in a wide-ranging telephone interview.

He said there were "enough democratic Tamil political parties in the country" to represent the Tamil minority.


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Freedom Denied: The Crushing of the Sri Lanka's Tamils - by Mike Cowie, Straight.com

"So, with the war in Sri Lanka now over and the Tamils having been crushed adn brought to their knees, I'd like to ask just one question: Are we happy now? With the Tamils decades long struggle for self-determination quashed and their dreams of an independent homeland shattered, are we fully satisfied? Should we givce ourselves a pat on the back?"

http://www.straight.com/article-222986/croatia-freedom-denied-crushing-s...

ps:

Couldn't help but notice that most of their demos and rallys in T.O. were 99.99% brown people. And the same redneck tribe that emerges whenever Indigenous people confront this settler state over our own continuing plundering and genocide, were out in force in all the 'comments' sections of the land spewing bile and bs. Too bad, because until such time as the rest of Canada can muster the kind of passion, commitment, organization and turnouts to their demos and rallies, elite elements will continue to run our affairs as they see fit. If divided we stand united we fall.

 


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Sri Lanka rejects Tigers' offer

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8067524.stm


Saving the distress people in Sri Lanka
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/103666


Army Holding Three Doctors Who Gave Information to Press in Sri Lanka
http://lankasrinews.com/view.php?2bIOoMe0dxlYI0ecLB4A3a4f5AA4d3cYd2cc2AmT2d434OX3a030Mm2e

 

No access to relief camps even after UN chief's visit
http://in.christiantoday.com/articles/no-access-to-relief-camps-even-after-un-chief-visit/3921.htm


UN faces fierce clash over call for Sri Lanka war crimes inquiry

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article6361091.ece


U.N. Human Rights Council Due Over Lanka "War Crimes"
http://www.rttnews.com/ArticleView.aspx?Id=959409&SMap=1


Toronto sideshow in Sri Lanka tragedy
http://www.thestar.com/article/640226


Sri Lanka becomes a diplomatic battleground
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/may2009/pers-m25.shtml


New evidence of Sri Lankan army war crimes
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/may2009/slwa-m26.shtml


What Next for Sri Lanka's 2.5 Million Tamils?
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1900888,00.html

 

Sri Lanka army chief vows never to allow Tamil rebels to rise again
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/southasia/news/article_1479491.php/Sri_Lanka_army_chief_vows_never_to_allow_Tamil_rebels_to_rise_again_


Military manpower will be increased from 200,000 to 500,000 within 5 years: Sarath Fonseka
http://lankasrinews.com/view.php?2bIOoMe0dxlYI0ecLB4A3a4f5AK4d3cYd2cc2AmT2d434OX3a030Mm2e

 

Sri Lankan government must fulfill Tamils' demands - Indian New Foreign Minister
http://lankasrinews.com/view.php?2bIOoMe0dxlYI0ecLB4A3a4f5AU4d3cYd2cc2AmT2d434OX3a030Mm2e

 

Far from needed reconciliation in Sri Lanka
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/editorials/far-from-needed-reconciliation-in-sri-lanka/article1152877/

 

Sri Lanka accused of 'ethnic cleansing' of Tamil areas
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/srilanka/5382676/Sri-Lanka-accused-of-ethnic-cleansing-of-Tamil-areas.html

 

Cult of personality grows around Sri Lanka's leader
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/cult-of-personality-grows-around-sri-lankas-leader/article1152585/


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Media rears racist head during protests 

http://rabble.ca/columnists/2009/05/sunday-morning-10-am


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thirusuj wrote:

Media rears racist head during protests 

http://rabble.ca/columnists/2009/05/sunday-morning-10-am

From Ashifa Kassam's article:

Quote:
The Toronto Star editorialized that the inconvenience the Tamil community was causing undermines "any sympathy that the rest of us might have felt for their cause." Exactly who were they speaking for when they evoked the "rest of us?"

I fully support the right of people in Canada to assemble, to demonstrate, to protest - and I was disturbed but unsurprised at the racist tone of much MSM comment on the protests.

Ashifa Kassam, however, is much more selective when it comes to the rights of people in Canada:

Quote:
[M]any Ottawa residents are still angry. And it's not only because some bus routes won't resume until April.

They're angry at the city, for allowing a bus strike to continue for 51 long days. They're angry at the bus drivers' union for holding the city's most vulnerable hostage during the most unforgiving time of the year. [...] Transit must be declared an essential service -- at least partially.

While blithely calling the events in Sri Lanka "genocide", this same columnist had not one word of support for the right of busdrivers - not to blockade highways - but simply to stay home and not work. And she did not blast the government authorities for failing to provide alternate modes of transport. Her entire venom was reserved for the workers.

 

 


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Has anyone seen the similarity between Serbia and Sri Lanka?  Both have provinces/territories with minorities, the Kosovar Muslim Albanians in Kosovo and the Hindu Tamils in Eelam.  Both minorities had militants who didn't follow the path of 'non-violence', the USK (Kosovo Liberation Army) and the Tigers.  But the USK has so far succeeded by its violence and the violent (but humanitarian) 11 week bombing by NATO.  Not so the Tamils who have been crushed and admonished for not following Gandhi.  And there is no US military base in Eelam.  Joe Biden has chosen the 10th anniversary of the NATO bombing to visit Kosovo.


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VOTE: Tamils have the legitimate right to an independent Tamil Eelam

at Tamil.co.uk or http://www.judgeandjury.org/


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Former Aid Worker Tim Martin Hunger Strike for Tamils' Plight
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/former-aid-worker-tim-martin-hunger-strike-tamils-plight

 

Who are the Tamil Tigers? - PAGE 12
http://issuu.com/ryerson-free-press/docs/ryerson_free_press_may_2009

 

Riz Khan - What now for Sri Lanka's Tamils? - 25 May 09 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfBrzEXRMQ0

 

Riz Khan - What now for Sri Lanka's Tamils? - 25 May 09 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab_AzQ7voSU&feature=channel


"Glaring hypocrisy, blatant sophistry" Boyle slams Swiss UN Resolution
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29456


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thirusuj wrote:

VOTE: Tamils have the legitimate right to an independent Tamil Eelam

at Tamil.co.uk or http://www.judgeandjury.org/

I'm not voting on this, thanks very much. Take it to the U.N.

 


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Unionist wrote:
I'm not voting on this, thanks very much. Take it to the U.N.

 

If the Tamil people have to depend on the UN for any kind of justice then we are surely screwed for life.


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Colombo to 'rehabilitate' rebels
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8069469.stm


UN call for Sri Lanka war probe

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8068905.stm


Tamil Tiger doubt over leader's demise

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8068982.stm

 

Sri Lanka's war-wounded leave MSF staff heavy with surgeries every day
http://www.msf.org/msfinternational/invoke.cfm?objectid=7D570A7B-15C5-F00A-2521E99007B70520&component=toolkit.article&method=full_html

 

"HUMANITARIAN INTERVENTION"

http://www.transcend.org/tms/article_detail.php?article_id=1290

 

Delicate Sri Lankan Peace Traps Refugees
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124330381331953295.html#mod=rss_asia_whats_news

 

Help the Tamils now
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/26/tamil-tigers-sri-lanka

 

REVENGE DRAMA - India will pay a heavy price for abdicating a Sri Lanka policy
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090527/jsp/opinion/story_11025167.jsp

 

Sri Lanka rehabilitates 7,000 ex-Tamil Tigers
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE54P4CS20090526?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&rpc=22&sp=true

 

Powerful friends put Sri Lanka in a dilemma
http://www.thenational.ae/article/20090527/FOREIGN/705269839/1103/rss


Inquiry into alleged abuses crucial for Sri Lanka's recovery - UN rights chief
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=30916&Cr=sri+lanka&Cr1=


Sri Lanka: Tamil refugees plead for help to find missing relatives
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/srilanka/5389357/Sri-Lanka-Tamil-refugees-plead-for-help-to-find-missing-relatives.html


Sri Lankans divided by war: Tamils trapped in internment camps tell of desperate hunt for loved ones
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/26/sri-lanka-tamil-tigers-camps


Tamil refugees beg to learn fate of relatives held as terrorists
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6368059.ece

 

Back from Sri Lanka, UN's Holmes Admits NGO Killings and Restrictions Not Raised
http://www.innercitypress.com/untrip2may7srilanka052609.html


SRI LANKA: U.N. Urges Focus on Relief and Reconciliation
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=46984


Sri Lanka urged at U.N. to ensure aid reaches Tamils
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSLR21683

 

No Victory in Sri Lanka
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/27/opinion/27wed3.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

 

Sri Lankan refugee camps 'epidemic waiting to happen'
http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/autocodes/countries/sri-lanka/sri-lankan-refugee-camps-epidemic-waiting-happen--$1298871.htm

 

Radio Basics - 25 May 2009: Discussions on Tamil and African Liberation
http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/33569


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"

"Sri Lanka keeps state of emergency"

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The Sri Lankan government will maintain its state of emergency, including sweeping powers to arrest and detain suspects, after the defeat of the separatist Tamil Tigers, according to a statement posted online ...

Under the state of emergency, police can arrest, enter homes and seize evidence without warrants and hold those they arrest for 18 months without trial ...

Veerasingham Anandasangaree, a Tamil politician, said it was unfair to keep the emergency powers in place, since most of the Tamil people "gave full support to the army to liberate them. If they are treated in this manner, there is no justice at all" ...



 


 

 


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this whole situation just leaves me speechless.


thirusuj
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UN supports Sri Lanka aid effort
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8070964.stm

HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL
Eleventh special session
26 May 2009


S-11/1    Assistance to Sri Lanka in the promotion and protection of human rights
The Human Rights Council,

Guided by the Charter of the United Nations, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the International Covenants on Human Rights and other relevant human rights instruments,


Reaffirming the purposes and principles of the United Nations as contained in articles 1 and 2 of the United Nations Charter, including the principle of non-interference in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of States,


Bearing in mind the General Assembly resolution 60/251 of 15 March 2006,


Recalling the Human Rights Council resolutions 5/1 and 5/2 on institution-building of the United Nations Human Rights Council,


Recalling that States have the duty and responsibility to provide protection and humanitarian assistance to all segments of the population, including Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs), without discrimination,


Recalling its decision 2/112 and its resolutions 6/28, 7/7 and 10/15, and recalling General Assembly resolutions 57/219, 58/187, 59/191, 60/158, 61/171, 62/159 and 63/185, and welcoming the efforts of the member States of the United Nations for the protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms, and reaffirming the obligations of States to respect human rights law and international humanitarian law while countering terrorism,


Reaffirming the respect for sovereignty, territorial integrity and independence of the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka, and its sovereign rights to protect its citizens and combat terrorism,


Condemning all attacks that the LTTE (Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam) launched on the civilian population and its practice of using civilians as human shields,


Reaffirming its commitment to promoting international cooperation, as set forth in the Charter of the United Nations, in particular Article 1, paragraph 3, as well as relevant provisions of the Vienna Declaration and Programme of Action adopted by the World Conference on Human Rights on 25 June 1993 for enhancing genuine cooperation among Member States in the field of human rights,


Recognizing that the promotion and protection of human rights should be based on the principle of cooperation and genuine dialogue and aimed at strengthening the capacity of Member States to comply with their human rights obligations for the benefit of all human beings,


Welcoming the conclusion of hostilities and the liberation by the Government of Sri Lanka of tens of thousands of its citizens that were kept by the LTTE against their will as hostages, as well as the efforts by the Government to ensure safety and security for all Sri Lankans and bringing permanent peace to the country;


Welcoming further the recent reassurance given by the President of Sri Lanka that he does not regard a military solution as a final solution, as well as his commitment to a political solution with implementation of the 13th Amendment to bring about lasting peace and reconciliation in Sri Lanka,


Emphasizing that after the conclusion of hostilities, the priority in terms of human rights remains the provision of the necessary assistance to ensure relief and rehabilitation of persons affected by the conflict, including internally displaced persons, as well as the reconstruction of the country's economy and infrastructure,


Encouraged by the provision of basic humanitarian assistance, in particular, safe drinking water, sanitation, food, and medical and health care services to the IDPs by the Government of Sri Lanka with the assistance of the United Nations agencies,


Further encouraged by the recent announcement by the Government of Sri Lanka of the proposal to safely resettle bulk of the IDPs within six months,


Welcoming the successful rehabilitation and reintegration of former child soldiers after the conflict ended in the Eastern Province of Sri Lanka, 


Acknowledging the continued engagement of the Government of Sri Lanka in regularly and transparently briefing and updating the Council on the human rights situation on the ground and the measures taken in that regard,


1.            Commends the measures taken by the Government of Sri Lanka to address the urgent needs of the Internally Displaced Persons;


2.            Welcomes the continued commitment of Sri Lanka to the promotion and protection of all human rights and encourages it to continue to uphold its human rights obligations and the norms of international human rights law;


3.            Encourages the Government of Sri Lanka to continue to pursue its existing cooperation with relevant  United Nations Organizations, , in order to provide, to the full extent of their capabilities, in co-operation with the Government of Sri Lanka, basic humanitarian assistance, in particular, safe drinking water, sanitation, food, and medical and health care services to the IDPs;


4.            Welcomes the announcement of the proposal to safely resettle the bulk of the Internally Displaced Persons within six months, and encourages the Government of Sri Lanka to proceed in these endeavours with due respect to persons belonging to national, ethnic, religious and linguistic minorities;


5.            Acknowledges the commitment of the Government of Sri Lanka to provide access as may be appropriate to international humanitarian agencies in order to ensure humanitarian assistance to the population affected by the past conflict, in particular IDPs, with a view to meeting their urgent needs and encourages the Sri Lankan authorities to further facilitate appropriate work;


6.            Encourages the Government of Sri Lanka to continue to persevere in its efforts towards the disarmament, demobilization and rehabilitation of former child soldiers, recruited by the non-state armed actors in the conflict in Sri Lanka, physical and psychological recovery and reintegration into society, in particular, through educational measures, taking into account the rights and specific needs and capacities of girls, in cooperation with relevant United Nations Organizations;


7.            Urges the Government of Sri Lanka to continue strengthening its activities to ensure that there is no discrimination against ethnic minorities in the enjoyment of the full range of human rights;


8.            Welcomes the continued cooperation between the Government of Sri Lanka and the relevant United Nations agencies, and other humanitarian organizations in the provision of humanitarian assistance to the affected people, and encourages them to continue to cooperate with the Government of Sri Lanka;


9.            Welcomes the recent visits to Sri Lanka by Mr. John Holmes, United Nations Humanitarian Coordinator and Mr. Walter Kaelin, Representative of the United Nations Secretary-General on Human Rights of Internally Displaced Persons and encourages them to continue to cooperate in the mobilization and provision of humanitarian assistance to the affected populations;


10.             Welcomes the visit to Sri Lanka of the Secretary-General of the United Nations at the invitation extended by the President of Sri Lanka, and endorses the joint communiqué issued at the conclusion of the visit as well as the understandings contained therein;


11.          Welcomes the resolve of the Sri Lankan authorities to begin a broader dialogue with all parties in order to enhance the process of political settlement and to bring about lasting peace and development in Sri Lanka based on consensus among and respect for the rights of all the ethnic and religious groups inhabiting it and invites all stakeholders concerned to actively participate in it;


12.            Urges the international community to cooperate with the Government of Sri Lanka in the reconstruction efforts, including by increasing the provision of financial assistance, including Official Development Assistance, to help the country fight poverty and underdevelopment and continue to ensure the promotion and protection of all human rights, including economic, social and cultural rights.


27 May 2009


                [Adopted by a recorded vote of 29 to 12, with 6 abstentions. The voting was as follows:


In favour:        Angola, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bolivia, Brazil, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, China, Cuba, Djibouti, Egypt, Ghana, India, Indonesia, Jordan, Madagascar, Malaysia, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, Qatar, Russian Federation, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, South Africa, Uruguay, Zambia;


Against:          Bosnia and Herzegovina, Canada, Chile, France, Germany, Italy, Mexico, Netherlands, Slovakia, Slovenia, Switzerland United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland;


Abstaining:    Argentina, Gabon, Japan, Mauritius, Republic of Korea, Ukraine].


thanks
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i don't get it.

what has the UN statement yesterday got to do with the call of the UN Human Rights Chief to investigate war crimes ??

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=30916&Cr=sri+lanka&Cr1= and

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8068982.stm - posted at #113 by thirusuj above.

is the UN going to ignore the war crimes ?


Michelle
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Long thread.


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