Jewish National Fund Rips Off Canadian Taxpayers to Pay IDF

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JKR

NDPP wrote:

Same thing that was done with Apartheid South Africa. 

Arab Israelis and Palestinian Israelis already have the right to vote in Istaeli elections and to form political parties in Istaeli elections.

NDPP

Epetition: Stop the JNF

http://stopthejnf.ca/epetition.html

"End tax breaks for colonization."

This Petition is open for signatures until May 9, 2019

DON'T Walk With Apartheid & Genocide. Don't Walk With The JNF. Don't Walk With Israel!

cco

JKR wrote:

NDPP wrote:

Same thing that was done with Apartheid South Africa. 

Arab Israelis and Palestinian Israelis already have the right to vote in Istaeli elections and to form political parties in Istaeli elections.

In a sense that's true, if you define Israeli Arabs as "the pre-1967-borders ones we decided to give citizenship". The problem's the ones in East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and Gaza. Israel's never going to give them citizenship, because together with their Israeli Arab brethren, they make up a majority of Israel's population.

Israel had a chance, with the Oslo accord, to rectify the situation by withdrawing to the 1967 lines. It continued to colonize the West Bank, and is now planning to annex non-contiguous pieces of it to get around the fact Jews are a minority, while still controlling it and Gaza militarily. It's profiting from extending this legal "ambiguity" indefinitely.

Also, Israel's Basic Law says that no party that denies Israel's status as a Jewish state (i.e. advocates majority rule) can compete in elections. So there's not much point in forming Arab parties, since they all have to endorse Zionism, and they keep getting banned in any event. Even when they are allowed to win seats, they're not allowed to take part in government.

NDPP

"The Vancouver Schoolboard had given the go-ahead to a planned workshop for its teachers on the Israel/Palestine conflict. Somehow news is leaked to Israeli proxy groups in Canada. A day later and the event has been canceled at CIJA's behest."

https://twitter.com/heveryvr/status/1118270589247066124

And this interference will continue until Canadians demand the funding and sources of support for Apartheid Israel's ever more powerful  lobby are prohibited, criminalized and destroyed just like South Africa's was.

NDPP

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JKR

NDPP wrote:

And this interference will continue until Canadians demand the funding and sources of support for Apartheid Israel's ever more powerful  lobby are prohibited, criminalized and destroyed just like South Africa's was.

Do you really think Canadians are going to “prohibit,” “criminalize,” and “destroy” Jewish Canadian organizations?

MegB

Not all Jewish Canadian organizations are Zionist or support Israel's genocidal policies, so no. 

JKR

So Canadians  might “prohibit,” “criminalize,” and “destroy” some Jewish Canadian organizations?

Sean in Ottawa

Israel is moving in a direction where Jewish Canadian support will reach a breaking point. I expect that this will happen before non-Jewish Canadians will push this very much.

Israel is in the hands of extremists and as it moves to greater extremes, it will become more and more difficult for Jewish Canadians to reconcile. Certainly there is support now but there are cracks and these cracks will widen. The wider Canadian community is not at breaking point yet either but we are apporaching that point.

As the hope, perhaps illusion, of a moderate, "democratic" Israel, a two state solution, and peace with neighbours fades, Canadians will find it more difficult to support what Israel has actually become. Zionism was always based on a two-state solution, in order to carve out a state of a single religious majority.

Netenyahu has decided to once and for all make a two state solution impossible. Given the demographics of the people who live in this extended state, he has blown up the essential myth of Israel. Israel was intended by many Jews to be a "democratic" Jewish state -- with all the contradiction that implies. Of course it cannot be at once democratic, Jewish and control territories with a majority of non-Jewish people. What Netenyahu has done by burying any residual hope for a two-state solution has firmly condemned Israel to abanoning any pretence at having a democracy and requiring the institution of an undeniable religious apartheid along with a new process of ethnic cleansing of more people than were living in 1940s Israel when it was created. The cloak of deniability has for years been the scraps of hope for a two state solution.

As such Netenyahu may have crushed the hope of Zionism for Zionists -- even if they do not know it yet. It is possible that within restricted borders Israel, may have eventually found a reluctant peace with a neighbouring Palestinian state. It is possible that within more restrictive borders, a Jewish majority could have been maintained for some time. But now, Israel has seized so much territory, that it cannot, short of a new round of ethnic cleansing, build a sustainable state there. Ultimately a one state solution is effectively the end of Israel. It is impossible to see Israel as Netenyahu is building it become either peaceful or sustainable as Jewish state. It may persevere for some time, even longer than Apartheid in South Africa, but global support for it will eventually fade. The US as a guardian is also likely to fade in power. The requirement for a new round of extreme ethnic cleansing, will probably be a breaking point. The present apartheid of the territories, I believe has only been sustainable as people clung to the myth of a two state solution.

The two state solution, Netenyahu is buring, was the fig leaf to allow the Apartheid state of Israel. As two-state is understood to be no longer possible, the reality of Apartheid as a permanent, rather than a temporary regime will take hold. It will also be impossible for Israel to continue through propaganda to convince the world that the fault lies with the Palestinians and that he is waiting for them to come to the table. By burning the table in the fire, Netenyahu has proven that Israel as it is today is unsustainable (even if ever it might have been sustainable in the past had other decisions been made).

I have long beleived that the most dangerous people are those who do not even act in their own interest. Israel is in that category. It is not restrained by self interest. It is on an impossible mission as extreme right parties hold control over a perhaps slightly less extreme centre. Just as a case cannot be made that this is in Israel's interest, backstopping Israel by the US is also not in the interests of that aging power.

NDPP

Meanwhile it has the minds of our children and our politicians and openly recruits and  fundraises for its murderous genocidal army.

"Glad to host the monthly meeting of UJA Federation's Israel Engagement Committee for a  discussion about Israel- relations."

https://twitter.com/GaliBaram/status/1118516616306790402

It's high time the whole country had this discussion. If this was the South African diaspora fundraising for the pre-Apartheid South African Defense Forces, or marching 25,000 strong yearlythrough our streets under the banner 'Walk With South Africa' along with our complicit polticians and insulting those courageous VERY FEW that oppose them,  we would have such a discussion. As it is, Israel's presence and influence in Canada and its affairs is growing not declining.

Sean in Ottawa

NDPP wrote:

Meanwhile it has the minds of our children and our politicians and openly recruits and  fundraises for its murderous genocidal army.

Yes -- and towards an absolutely unsustainable direction. The futility is as striking as the injustice.

MegB

JKR wrote:

So Canadians  might “prohibit,” “criminalize,” and “destroy” some Jewish Canadian organizations?

While I'm not precisely on the same page as NDPP with the whole destroy and criminalize theme, I do think that the focus needs to not be Judeocentric but rather on generalized support for what Sean rightly calls an extremist state. There are plenty non-Jewish specific organizations that support Israel unconditionally, who also wield the accusation of anti-Semitism as a means of silencing criticism for Israel's gross human rights violations. I've encountered white supremacist groups whose virulent Islamophobia has them allied with the state of Israel even though many of the individuals may themselves hold anti-Semitic views. Not the cosiest of bedfellows, but still.

I think it's also important to note that Canada's own history of land theft and genocidal practises makes them a natural ally of those who do the same. That history is deeply embedded in our colonial state culture and frequently leaks into our foreign policy. NDPP's scorched earth policy against unconditional supporters of Israel isn't going to accomplish what needs to be accomplished, that being an upsurge of support for BDS, the only realistic mechanism we have that has proven to work in the past, in South Africa.

NDPP

Spirit of Zionism

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2dr4pvv7bczg7tl/SOH%202019%20Flyer_Nikki.pdf?dl=0

"Paul Bronfman Dinner Chair".

Billionaire Zionist Paul Bronfman is Justin Trudeau's Chief Liberal Party Fundraiser. Our own Sheldon Adelson

NDPP

Canadian liberals will keep kicking this disgusting Zionist can of worms down the road and averting their eyes from the growing not diminishing power of Israel and its domestic lobby and fifth column in government until Israel has everything it wants. With full respect and courage for the valiant few including Jews who work tirelessly to stem Israeli apartheid, power and influence, it's quite clear as CIJA's crushing of the Vancouver teachers demonstrates, that Canada and Canadians are not up to the necessary measures to stop it. BDS is NOT winning. CIJA, UJA, FOSWC and Israel is.

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MegB wrote:

I think it's also important to note that Canada's own history of land theft and genocidal practises makes them a natural ally of those who do the same. That history is deeply embedded in our colonial state culture and frequently leaks into our foreign policy.

The problem is that even the Canadians that understand some of our history think it is history while I and others would argue our current pipeline debates show land theft is ongoing.  The Israeli's are trying to do to the Palestinians what the genocidal British colonists did to the indigenous populations of Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the US. Its not strange to me that our racist roots have led our ruling elites to forming the 5Eyes. The RCMP and Mossad trade tips on how to police the people their respective governments are currently stealing land from.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=330064544364824

NDPP

UJA Federation - Walk With Israel, May 20, 2019, Toronto: Last year 25,000+ Zionist supporters marched FOR Israel less than 250 stood against. This year is predicted to be bigger than ever. 

https://jewishtoronto.com

A Special Message To Toronto's Jewish Community From Israeli President Reuven Rivlin

https://youtu.be/5X8MrAQillc

"I came here to thank you for your support for Israel. Canada supports us also because of you and their relations with you and because of your ability to make the case for the Zionist movement in the Land of Israel..."

NDPP

"In Pictures: 37 Gaza protesters, including five paramedics."

https://twitter.com/AbujomaaGaza/status/1119331004425146371

Why do we continue to allow these Zionist assholes to do this? Worse, why do we continue to allow Zionist assholes here to support them? 

DON'T WALK WITH ISRAEL! 

NDPP

WATCH: 'Head of the pre-military academy calls for enslaving Palestinians and says that  Hitler's Nazi racist ideology was '100% correct' if applied to the right people."

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1123318555871731712

Stop supporting Israel.

NDPP

"Israeli warplanes targeted a home in Eastern Gaza killing a pregnant woman and her child..."

https://twitter.com/sarah_nowha1234/status/1124766819389202432

Why 20,000+ zios  'Walk With Israel' for UJA on May 20. 

http://ujafed.convio.net/site/PageNavigator/where_the_dollars_go.html

'Israel acts like this because the so-called 'international community' permits it." (and vid)

https://twitter.com/AliAbunimah/status/1124863468602109952

SHUT IT DOWN!

NDPP

Consulate General of Israel in Toronto and Western Canada: Yom Hazikaron - The Official Memorial Ceremony For Israel's Fallen Soldiers and Victims of Terror

https://twitter.com/ShaiDeLuca/status/1125448809130135558

"The Community is invited to attend."

Next week we mourn the South African Boer 'victims of terror' and 'Fallen' South African Defence Forces. 'The community is invited to attend.' 

NDPP

"The racist son of the war criminal Benjamin Netanyahu - who was recently banned from Facebook for his racist rants - thanks Justin Trudeau for siding, yet again, with Israel's apartheid regime."

https://twitter.com/dimitrilascaris/status/1125537709395566592

NDPP

"Sabreen Al Najjar, mother of murdered Gaza medic Razan Al Najjar, voiced her support a month ago for a military embargo against Israel."

https://twitter.com/BDSmovement/status/1126067987549773824

That includes the disgusting continued support and fundraising by JNF etc.

NDPP

"This is the face called a terrorist by the Israeli Army."

https://twitter.com/hamada-najar/status/1126830949025636358

Don't 'Walk With Israel'. Don't Contribute to Jewish National Fund. Stop supporting Apartheid Israel's Crimes and its Cooptation of Canada's Politicians. Zionism is Racism.

NDPP

Toronto 'Walks With Israel' on Israel-Palestine

https://twitter.com/dimitrilascaris/status/1128267971682549760

"Today, Torontonians will learn whether any Councillor has the integrity to denounce the Executive Committee's flagrant double-standard on Israel-Palestine."

The picture is JDL Zio-klansman Meir Weinstein armtwisting your representatives on Israel's behalf Toronto! 

NDPP

Linda Frum:  Canadian Senator For Israel. 

https://twitter.com/dimitrilascaris/status/1128783370924810242

"Senator Linda Frum lectures Canadians about racism while fanatically supporting Israel's racist apartheid regime. You can't make this stuff up."

'cc: Chrystia Freeland'

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