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  • FLASH: MICHAEL FLYNN TO PLEAD GUILTY TODAY IN MUELLER CASE, OFFICE OF SPECIAL COUNSEL SAYS

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Michael Flynn promised "full cooperation to the Mueller team" and is prepared to testify that as a candidate, Donald Trump "directed him to make contact with the Russians."

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"My advice to Putin on how to stop the 'Russian meddling' hysteria in Washington cold is simply to change his name to 'Vladimir Netanyahu'. No US pundit or pols will ever question his actions again."

https://twitter.com/AliAbunimah/status/936770949784858625

 

Why Flynn's Plea Is A Dead End For 'Russiagate' Conspiracy

https://on.rt.com/8tnr

"President Donald Trump's short-lived national security adviser, Michael Flynn, pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. Most US media jumped on the plea as proof of Trump's collusion with Russia. Actual documents, however, tell a different story...The one question nobody seems to be asking is 'So what?"

 

voice of the damned

NDPP wrote:

"My advice to Putin on how to stop the 'Russian meddling' hysteria in Washington cold is simply to change his name to 'Vladimir Netanyahu'. No US pundit or pols will ever question his actions again."

 

 

 

Being on Israel's side didn't do much to help Jonathan Polllard, given that he was actually breaking US law. Which is also what is being alleged about the so-called Kremlingate gang.

That said, I do agree that the Israel lobby has a baleful influence on US politics, and that Israel should not not be getting legal privileges like eg. exemption from registering its lobbyists. But that's neither here nor there in regards to the discussion about Trump and Russia.  

It's like if the mayor of a city gets accused of beating his wife, and someone responds with "That's so unfair, if he had been a cop, the blue wall of silence would have kicked in and his colleagues would have protected him." That's probably true, but then the solution to the problem is to end the blue wall of silence, not to extend it to politicians.

Rev Pesky

The real question isn't so much what the Kremlin did or didn't do. The real question is what the Trump team thought they going to do. 

If I got my family together and told them I wanted to rob a bank, and I was going to get my next door neighbour to help me, then had a family member talk to said neighbour just to feel the situation out a bit, that doesn't necessarily make my neighbour complicit. At the same time, I am still a conspirator.

What baffles me more than anything is what the Stalinist's see in Trump. There has never been any indication, through his whole life, that he gives a shit for anyone, or anything, but himself. He's a narcissist extraodinaire, a pathological liar, and has a skin thinner than a cigarette paper.   

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Russia is hooped!

Michael Flynn’s Guilty Plea Is Bad For Trump In Lots Of Ways

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/michael-flynns-guilty-plea-is-bad-f...

 

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Rev Pesky wrote:

What baffles me more than anything is what the Stalinist's see in Trump. There has never been any indication, through his whole life, that he gives a shit for anyone, or anything, but himself. He's a narcissist extraodinaire, a pathological liar, and has a skin thinner than a cigarette paper.   

That's what they saw in him.

Rev Pesky

From bekayne:

That's what they saw in him.

I'll put that down as 'fair comment'. 

​Meanwhile, if you get a chance, see 

The Death of Stalin

josh

NDPP wrote:

"My advice to Putin on how to stop the 'Russian meddling' hysteria in Washington cold is simply to change his name to 'Vladimir Netanyahu'. No US pundit or pols will ever question his actions again."

https://twitter.com/AliAbunimah/status/936770949784858625

 

Why Flynn's Plea Is A Dead End For 'Russiagate' Conspiracy

https://on.rt.com/8tnr

"President Donald Trump's short-lived national security adviser, Michael Flynn, pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. Most US media jumped on the plea as proof of Trump's collusion with Russia. Actual documents, however, tell a different story...The one question nobody seems to be asking is 'So what?"

 

LOL.  Spin baby, spin.

josh

Rev Pesky wrote:

From bekayne:

That's what they saw in him.

I'll put that down as 'fair comment'. 

​Meanwhile, if you get a chance, see 

The Death of Stalin

Looks good.  Almost like a Coen Brothers film.

NDPP

"Kushner reportedly directed Flynn to call 'every member' of the UN Security Council about an Israeli settlements resolution...and the main takeaway is that this is a 'Russia scandal'?!

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/936715103336099840

 

"All I want for Hanukkah is for Russiagate to turn into Israelgate."

https://twitter.com/geoffreyjewdas/status/937078734414336000

 

Robert Parry: The Hunting Down of Michael Flynn

https://www.newcoldwar.org/hunting-michael-flynn/

 

 'Half the world is cracking up with laughter...' Chomsky on Russiagate chumps

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PS Enjoy the show...

PBS Frontline: 'Putin's Revenge'

https://off-guardian.org/2017/11/30/pbs-frontline-putins-revenge-if-it-w...

"PBS Frontline series offers what it calls the 'inside story of how Vladimir Putin came to see the United States as an enemy - and why he decided to target an American election.'

We are publishing it here because it has to be seen to be believed."

Here it will be...

"Never give a sucker an even break or smarten up a chump..." WC Fields

JKR

"Never give a sucker an even break or smarten up a chump..." WC Fields

It's amazing how some people are led to blindly support countries like Canada, the US, Russia,...

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Israel.

JKR

Syria under Bashar al-Assad.

josh
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Another Empty 'Bombshell' Russiagate Story

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48333.htm

"So this was Flynn trying to influence the Russians, not the other way around..."

 

What Michael Flynn's Guilty Plea Means For Mueller's Russia Probe (and podcast)

https://sptnkne.ws/gfjg

"On today's episode of Loud & Clear, Brian Becker and John Kiriakou are joined by Ken Silverstein..."

JKR

Why are pro-Trump and pro-Russia supporters trying to discredit the investigations before they conclude? If there is not enough hard evidence these investigations will not be able to indict people in the Trump administration. 

NDPP

According to you the answer is obvious, because critics are Trump/Russia supporters. Why are you supporting such outrageous and ill-intentioned proceedings suggesting they will produce an honest outcome?

JKR

NDPP wrote:

According to you the answer is obvious, because critics are Trump/Russia supporters. Why are you supporting such outrageous and ill-intentioned proceedings suggesting they will produce an honest outcome?

Because in order to be taken seriously, the "proceedings" will have to produce concrete evidence. Looking at his history over the last 45 years, I have no difficulty believing Trump may have broken the law in order to get elected. He has never respected ethics and the law in order to get ahead so why should he now?

josh

JKR wrote:

Why are pro-Trump and pro-Russia supporters trying to discredit the investigations before they conclude? If there is not enough hard evidence these investigations will not be able to indict people in the Trump administration. 

Because they know, or fear, that if the truth comes out, it will, let's just say, not reflect well on either.

NDPP

Exclusion of Collusion: MSM Ignores Trump Officials' Collusion...With Israel

https://on.rt.com/8tuz

"While Flynn's plea does not show any direct evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to influence the elections, it does show that they might have colluded with an entirely different foreign government to undermine the foreign policy of a sittting president. 

On December 22, 2016, Flynn contacted Kislyak to ask if Russia would delay or defeat a UN Security Council vote criticizing Israeli settlements..."

 

'What We're Looking At Is Actually Israel-Gate' - Max Blumenthal

https://youtu.be/24yIEsC8I8A

"While the mainstream media jumped on disgraced national security adviser Michael Flynn's guilty plea 'desperate to validate' a Russia-gate narrative, Max Blumenthal, senior writer for Alternet, discusses the 'far less convenient' scrutiny now being paid to senior adviser and Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner's Israeli connnections."

 

CrossTalk Bullhorns: Russiagaters

https://youtu.be/wq6S9wdXoSE

"Michael Flynn admits lying to the FBI. The reaction of Russiagaters and the liberal media  is jubilation. But why? Flynn's admission in fact deflates the new popular conspiracy theory."

 

 

JKR

It's possible that Trump and his underlings were in collusion with Russia and with Israel. Why would Russia-gate and Israel-gate be mutually exclusive? Are people trying to deflect attention on Russia-gate by scapegoating Israel? Maybe this isn't surprising considering the Russian history of the Pogroms.

josh

Special Counsel Robert Mueller has asked Deutsche Bank (DBKGn.DE) to share data on accounts held by U.S. President Donald Trump and his family, a person close to the matter said on Tuesday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-deutsche-bank/deutsche-bank-receives-subpoena-from-mueller-on-trump-accounts-source-idUSKBN1DZ0XN

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‘MORNING JOE’: TRUMP TEAM ‘GOING TO JAIL ... FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES’

‘But the most remarkable thing about it is that even now that he’s president, it’s still all about money’

https://news.grabien.com/story-morning-joe-trump-team-going-jail-rest-th...

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josh

How about both?

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Even better, however I’m sure the Liar in Chief’s plan is before the 2018 midterms a war will break out and the voting fools will rally round the flag and their thuggish leader and vote for the GOP child molesters and all

Lindsay Graham has already started the drumbeat telling Americans yesterday to get out of South Korea

 

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NDPP

NDPP wrote:

Exclusion of Collusion: MSM Ignores Trump Officials' Collusion...With Israel

https://on.rt.com/8tuz

"While Flynn's plea does not show any direct evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to influence the elections, it does show that they might have colluded with an entirely different foreign government to undermine the foreign policy of a sittting president. 

On December 22, 2016, Flynn contacted Kislyak to ask if Russia would delay or defeat a UN Security Council vote criticizing Israeli settlements..."

 

'What We're Looking At Is Actually Israel-Gate' - Max Blumenthal

https://youtu.be/24yIEsC8I8A

"While the mainstream media jumped on disgraced national security adviser Michael Flynn's guilty plea 'desperate to validate' a Russia-gate narrative, Max Blumenthal, senior writer for Alternet, discusses the 'far less convenient' scrutiny now being paid to senior adviser and Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner's Israeli connnections."

 

CrossTalk Bullhorns: Russiagaters

https://youtu.be/wq6S9wdXoSE

"Michael Flynn admits lying to the FBI. The reaction of Russiagaters and the liberal media  is jubilation. But why? Flynn's admission in fact deflates the new popular conspiracy theory."

 

 

Clearly, as  has been obvious for some time, the malign foreign entity  'meddling' in US political affairs, is Israel, not Russia.  

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NDPP

Michael Flynn's Indictment Exposes Trump Team's Collusion With ISRAEL, NOT RUSSIA

https://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/flynn-indictment-exposes-collu...

"But you wouldn't know it from reading most mainstream coverage of the revealing affair." 

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But President Bullshit says not true. Who to believe? Gee, that’s a tough one!

https://www.ft.com/content/3c357c9a-d9dc-11e7-a039-c64b1c09b482

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JKR

NDPP wrote:

Michael Flynn's Indictment Exposes Trump Team's Collusion With ISRAEL, NOT RUSSIA

https://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/flynn-indictment-exposes-collu...

"But you wouldn't know it from reading most mainstream coverage of the revealing affair." 

Trump and his key advisers have openly favoured Israel since the start of Trump's run for the presidency.

NDPP

Ignore the Beltway Drama, Watch the Hands

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/12/05/ignore-the-beltway-drama-watch-t...

"This is what happens when business interests call the shots. Society ends up in a place where three oligarchs own as much as the bottom half of society and allegations of Russian 'interference' somehow overshadow the reality of a billion dollar presidential race which is funded heavily by concentrated sources of corporate power.

Make no mistake, what these elite groups are doing isn't just interference, it's flat out political subversion and it dwarfs anything, that Putin and his spy chiefs have cooked up. That the media has worked people into a lather about Flynn and Russian hacking is a miracle of modern propaganda..."

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How Russiagate Rationalizes Censorship *Must read*

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/12/04/how-russia-gate-rationalizes-censo...

"The Russia-gate hysteria has spread beyond simply a strategy for neutralizing Donald Trump or even removing him from office into an excuse for stifling US dissent that challenges the New Cold War, reports Joe Lauria..."

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Of Course the President Can Obstruct Justice

Trump very well might have.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/12/tr...

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The truth is slowly seeping out about what a massive operation this election scam has been. Follow the money. One deaprtment of Deutsche Bank calls Trump's loans while another Deutsche Bank department, probably with Russian funds, is lending him more money!

A Missing Piece Falls Into Place in the Saga of Michael Flynn

A whistleblower alleges that the former national-security adviser promised that sanctions on Russia would be “ripped up.”

 

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/flynn-whistleblower...

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