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josh

Unionist wrote:

josh wrote:

Of course.  But also, of course, two wrongs don't make a right.

Correct. If it's ever proven that Russia covertly and significantly interfered in U.S. elections, it should be condemned for doing so.

But for U.S. Democrats and other wannabe progressives to stridently condemn Russian interference, while studiously ignoring/whitewashing their own country's (and their own party's) decades of identical crimes, only taken to an exponential power, and ongoing to this day? That's nothing short of obscene. And the underlying notion that AMERICA could never elect a neo-fascist buffoon like Trump without some foreigners subverting AMERICAN DEMOCRACY™? That's crossing the border into tragi-comic self-righteousness.

A lot of progressives do do that.  Many don't.  Having elected Nixon, Reagan and W., no one's under any illusion that "it can't happen here."  But that's a separate question from whether the election was corrupted by outside intervention.

voice of the damned

josh wrote:

Unionist wrote:

josh wrote:

Of course.  But also, of course, two wrongs don't make a right.

Correct. If it's ever proven that Russia covertly and significantly interfered in U.S. elections, it should be condemned for doing so.

But for U.S. Democrats and other wannabe progressives to stridently condemn Russian interference, while studiously ignoring/whitewashing their own country's (and their own party's) decades of identical crimes, only taken to an exponential power, and ongoing to this day? That's nothing short of obscene. And the underlying notion that AMERICA could never elect a neo-fascist buffoon like Trump without some foreigners subverting AMERICAN DEMOCRACY™? That's crossing the border into tragi-comic self-righteousness.

A lot of progressives do do that.  Many don't.  Having elected Nixon, Reagan and W., no one's under any illusion that "it can't happen here."  But that's a separate question from whether the election was corrupted by outside intervention.

Yeah, I would really hope no one gets the impression that, in understanding the logic behind investigating Trump/Russia, my implied point is "How dare anyone subvert the electoral process of The Greatest Democracy On Earth!" That is nowhere near being the point, even if some of Trump's opponents are using it as a rhetorical trope.  

josh

The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has subpoenaed the Trump Organization to turn over documents, including some related to Russia, according to two people briefed on the matter. The order is the first known time that the special counsel demanded documents directly related to President Trump’s businesses, bringing the investigation closer to the president.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/us/politics/trump-organization-subpoena-mueller-russia.html?smid=pl-share

NDPP

Acceptable Bigotry and Scapegoating of Russia

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/03/15/acceptable-bigotry-and-scapegoatin...

"The scapegoating of Russia has taken on an air of bigotry and ugliness..."

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Quote:
"The scapegoating of Russia has taken on an air of bigotry and ugliness..."

Can you recommend another country to scapegoat?  One that "real" progressives would scapegoat?  Responsible for all the ills of the world, and suchlike?

NDPP

What NBC Cut From Putin Interview

https://twitter.com/IntheNow_tweet/status/973601349387636741

When Putin got too real for Megyn Kelly...

NDPP

TRNN: Threats Facing Humanity, Russiagate & the Role of Independent Media

https://youtu.be/1lZRT62Y4GA

"In this interview with the senior editor and founder of The Real News Network Paul Jay, acTVism examines the threats facing humanity today, Russiagate and what issue, independent media outlets should be prioritizing..."

NDPP

Trump Promotes Longtime Russia Hawk Just as Russiagate Loses Momentum

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/03/14/trump-promotes-longtime-russia-haw...

"The fact-free and logic challenged allegations of Trump-Russia collusion have further lost credibility with the appointment of a virulently anti-Russia hawk to replace Security of State Rex Tillerson, Caitlin Johnstone says..."

Sean in Ottawa

NDPP wrote:

Trump Promotes Longtime Russia Hawk Just as Russiagate Loses Momentum

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/03/14/trump-promotes-longtime-russia-haw...

"The fact-free and logic challenged allegations of Trump-Russia collusion have further lost credibility with the appointment of a virulently anti-Russia hawk to replace Security of State Rex Tillerson, Caitlin Johnstone says..."

Even if you do not think that Russia is innocent -- and I don't I think that it is as I believe this is somethign a number of coutnries are engaged in, choosing people that will aggravate makes things worse.

Russia is a country that could have had better relations with other countries but it was badly treated when it tried to. I think that the hostility Russia has to a number of other countries has been well earned. So while I do not defend Russia saying it is innocent, I am aware of the provocation it faced and how we got to this point.

Nobody should imagine that the US does not play the same games either.

NDPP

The Jimmy Dore Show

https://youtu.be/IYSOmD5LyYs

"MSNBC gaslights viewers & smears WikiLeaks."

NDPP

US AG Sessions Fires Ex-FBI Deputy Director McCabe

https://on.rt.com/919u

"US AG Jeff Sessions has fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, effective immediately. The abrupt termination could cost McCabe, who is accused of mishandling Hillary Clinton's email probe, much of his pension. The termination was recommended by the FBI's Office of Professional Responsibility. It comes after a still-classified report from the Department of Justice (DOJ) inspector general found that McCabe mishandled the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server during her tenure as Secretary of State..."

josh

It’s because he leaked to the media.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ABC/status/974832558021251078

 

NDPP

What If There Was No Collusion?

http://www.counterpunch.org/2018/03/16/what-if-there-was-no-collusion/

"The worst possible thing would be the toppling of Trump due to alleged Russian ties, followed by a Pence administration committed to confrontation with Russia..."

josh

One of Trump’s lawyers calls for Mueller to be fired:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/john-dowd-fire-mueller-after-mccabe-firing

josh

Trump launches twitter attacks this morning on Mueller, Comey and McCabe.  Becoming clear that he intends to take the ultimate act of obstruction and try to shut down the investigation.  Although it might not be that easy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/12/19/why-trump-cant-fire-mueller-at-least-not-directly/?utm_term=.dc02daa9111e

 

NDPP

House Intel Committee Votes to End Russia Probe - Report

https://on.rt.com/91nm

"The House Intelligence Committee has voted to end its Russia probe. Lawmakers found no evidence of collusion between associates of President Donald Trump and Russia..."

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Mobo2000

Very curious why you posted the twitter comment from former Bush speechwriter and all around nitwit David Frum on this thread.   You agree with David on this?

"Once you realize that "deep state" is code for "the rule of law," you can translate their jibberish into something more like English"

But here's another rightwing nitwit with the other side of the story:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/03/19/media-fail-60-trouble...

"The Deep State, which is correctly defined in the polling question as “a group of unelected or appointed government officials who have too much influence in determining federal policy,” has been a national issue since the rise of President Donald Trump. Ever since this conversation started, though, the media have been slashing away at the discussion as a fevered conspiracy ginned up by conservatives." ...

"Moreover, only 21 percent think the Deep State does not exist.  While 47 percent say it “probably exists,” 27 percent believe it “definitely exists.”   As far as “unelected or appointed government officials hav[ing] too much influence in determining federal policy,” 60 percent agree. This includes 59 percent of Democrats, 59 percent of Republicans, and 62 percent of independents.  Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians believe more strongly in the existence of a Deep State. While 35 percent believe it “definitely exists,” only 23 percent of whites agree."

"A whopping 80 percent believe the government spies on American citizens. A majority of 53 percent believe this is widespread. Only 18 percent believe this spying is justified."

bekayne

NDPP wrote:

House Intel Committee Votes to End Russia Probe - Report

https://on.rt.com/91nm

"The House Intelligence Committee has voted to end its Russia probe. Lawmakers found no evidence of collusion between associates of President Donald Trump and Russia..."

Quoting the House Republicans unironically?

josh
josh

bekayne wrote:

NDPP wrote:

House Intel Committee Votes to End Russia Probe - Report

https://on.rt.com/91nm

"The House Intelligence Committee has voted to end its Russia probe. Lawmakers found no evidence of collusion between associates of President Donald Trump and Russia..."

Quoting the House Republicans unironically?

Anything for the cause.

 

josh

In a court filing Tuesday night special counsel Robert Mueller alleges Rick Gates, a close associate of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, knew the two were working with a former Russian intelligence officer during the 2016 election.

http://www.newsweek.com/mueller-tells-court-paul-manafort-partner-rick-gates-knew-they-were-dealing-ex-862897

NDPP

Worst. Putin. Puppet. Ever.

https://t.co/naUwqvTNaS

"Isn't it weird how when you ignore the narratives being provided by both sides and just look at the raw behavior, being a 'Putin puppet' looks exactly the same as being a dangerously aggressive Russia hawk?"

NDPP

"LOL - The Ukrainian 'magnate' is Victor Pinchuk, mega donor to the Clinton Foundation, the NATO-backed Atlantic Council, and the NATO-backed government in Kiev. Russiagate gets sillier and sillier by the day."

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/983556994521968640

https://pinchukfund.org/en/projects/20/events/17654/

NDPP

FBI Raids Home, Office of Trump's Personal Attorney

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/04/10/raid-a10.html

"...Not only the manner, but the timing of the raids is extraordinary, coming as the Trump administration is preparing to launch a major military operation against Syria. If anything, the raids seem likely to push Trump into a more aggressive military strike, which would serve to push his legal problems off the front pages. 

Such actions would also placate his opponents within the military-intelligence apparatus, who, backed by virtually the entire Democratic Party and some prominent Republicans, have been clamoring for a more confrontational policy towards Russia. The escalating political warfare in Washington is a struggle between opposed factions of the same corporate-financial elite, largely over US imperialist foreign policy..."

voice of the damned

Not only the manner, but the timing of the raids is extraordinary, coming as the Trump administration is preparing to launch a major military operation against Syria. If anything, the raids seem likely to push Trump into a more aggressive military strike, which would serve to push his legal problems off the front pages. Such action would also placate his opponents within the military-intelligence apparatus, who, backed by virtually the entire Democratic Party and some prominent Republicans, have been clamoring for a more confrontational policy towards Russia.

I'm not clear what connection WSWS is trying to posit here between the raids and Trump's foreign policy. The FBI conducted the raids because they know that it will encourage Trump to be more aggressive against Syria as a way of distracting from the raids? Or are the raids meant as a threat: "You can expect more of this, golfer-boy, if you don't dispense with the kumbayah shit and start bombing Syria"?

Isn't it just as easy to believe that the FBI raided Cohen's office because they thought there might be evidence of criminal activity there, and that Trump is bombing Syria because that's what the foreign-policy bigshots are telling him to do?  

 

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

I think NDPP and most of his sources of information have lost their minds over this matter. A federal judge issued the warrant for this raid, after having the evidence presented to them. To link that decision to foreign policy manipulations by the Deep State seems to me to be pure paranoia. Cohen is a disgusting, scum-of-the-earth, bullying, sleazy New York lawyer who finally got caught for one of his many criminal activities, and all these people can imagine is that he is a victim of shadowy conspirators. We should all be cheering this righteous bust.

Mobo2000

Well, if the WSW article above were saying the raids happened now because the Deep State wanted to push Trump to a more aggressive foreign policy in Syria, then I would agree with you.   I think if you read it fairly it's making a smaller claim -- that the effect of this raid is likely to make Trump 'wag the dog' to make his legal problems go away.   I agree that the claim that the raid was timed this way on behalf of the Deep State is unlikely and conspiratorial, but I also think the smaller, actually made claim in the article is obviously true.  

The overarching narrative presented by the WSW article above is also true, in my mind, best expressed by this:

"As reactionary as Trump and his administration are, there is nothing progressive or democratic about the mobilization of the intelligence and police agencies of the state against him. The campaign against Trump being spearheaded by the Democratic Party, based on concocted claims of Russian “meddling” and “fake news,” is aimed at whipping up a war hysteria against Russia and justifying Internet censorship. The escalating political warfare in Washington is a struggle between opposed factions of the same corporate-financial elite, largely over US imperialist foreign policy issues."

 

 

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

Mobo2000 wrote:

The overarching narrative presented by the WSW article above is also true, in my mind, best expressed by this:

"As reactionary as Trump and his administration are, there is nothing progressive or democratic about the mobilization of the intelligence and police agencies of the state against him. The campaign against Trump being spearheaded by the Democratic Party, based on concocted claims of Russian “meddling” and “fake news,” is aimed at whipping up a war hysteria against Russia and justifying Internet censorship. The escalating political warfare in Washington is a struggle between opposed factions of the same corporate-financial elite, largely over US imperialist foreign policy issues."

The only part I seriously disagree with is the phrase I bolded. I think there is extremely strong evidence of Russian meddling. After all, the Dutch intelligence agency had penetrated the group in Moscow that carried out the hack of the DNC server, and watched the hackers on their own closed circuit tv as they monitored the traffic in and out of their network in real time. I believe this really happened, and that it is irrefutable proof of Russian meddling. If it turns out these reports are false, then my opinion would change, but there is some pretty strong technical evidence even without the Dutch material.

As to fake news, I remember seeing these stories on fb during the campaign. They were crazy to anyone with the slightest objectivity, but a hell of a lot of Trump supporters believed and shared them.

I agree that Hillary lost mainly because she was seen (correctly in my opinion) as the ultimate careerist climber, who is willing to do anything for the approval, and money, of the capitalist elite. That does not mean that the meddling and fake news didn't happen, or didn't have a measurable effect.

Mobo2000

Michael, curious do you agree with the second part of your bolded sentance ?  ... "is aimed at whipping up a war hysteria against Russia and justifying Internet censorship."     Even if it were conceeded that RUssia did meddle and fake news was a problem, do you think the reaction of the mainstream media is proportional or moderate?

To me the war hysteria against Russia and internet censorship dwarf  Russian meddling and fake news in importance.   I think the threat of escalating war is real, and near, and seeing the left and right media marching in lockstep on it is terrifying.

josh

This whole "war with Russia" nonsense is just yet another tactic to divert attention from Russia's meddling in the 2016 election and its internet troll farm/factory.  And an effort to shutdown the investigation.  A classic smokescreen, or red herring, whichever you prefer.   No one wants a war with Russia.

Mobo2000

Well, we have a fundamental disagreement on that one Josh.  

josh

War with Russia would mean a nuclear war. 

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

Mobo2000 wrote:

Michael, curious do you agree with the second part of your bolded sentance ?  ... "is aimed at whipping up a war hysteria against Russia and justifying Internet censorship."     Even if it were conceeded that RUssia did meddle and fake news was a problem, do you think the reaction of the mainstream media is proportional or moderate?

To me the war hysteria against Russia and internet censorship dwarf  Russian meddling and fake news in importance.   I think the threat of escalating war is real, and near, and seeing the left and right media marching in lockstep on it is terrifying.

To keep this as short as possible, I am generally in agreement with Chomsky's position on most of these matters, because I consider him the most reliable source of information about these issues, and I also agree with his anti-authoritarian approach to social, economic and political issues.

In that light, I would say that this warmongering is nothing new. It justifies huge transfers of wealth from the U.S. population to the capitalist elite. Russia happens to be the enemy du jour, just as in 2002 it was Iraq. In this regard, there are no serious disagreements amongst the oligarchs, even though some, like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett at least show a little shame, while others, like the Kochs and Mercers, feel nothing but triumph at their crushing of the masses.

As far as the press is concerned, they act as the they always do, in the interests of the capitalists who own them. Have you read Necessary Illusions? It discusses the behaviour of the MSM during the Reagan administration, but in my opinion not much has changed, except that the concentration of media ownership into fewer and fewer hands has proceeded apace.

I don't think internet censorship of the sort practiced in China or Russia is a particular threat right now. It might become one if the so far successful techniques for "manufacturing consent" seem to be failing, which could happen in the near future. Even in that case, I don't think the Russia meddling/fake news issue will have much effect on the process.

voice of the damned

Mobo2000 wrote:

Well, if the WSW article above were saying the raids happened now because the Deep State wanted to push Trump to a more aggressive foreign policy in Syria, then I would agree with you.   I think if you read it fairly it's making a smaller claim -- that the effect of this raid is likely to make Trump 'wag the dog' to make his legal problems go away.   I agree that the claim that the raid was timed this way on behalf of the Deep State is unlikely and conspiratorial, but I also think the smaller, actually made claim in the article is obviously true.  

Mobo:

It was the opening sentence of the passage that made me think WSWS was trying to imply some sort of conspiracy...

"...Not only the manner, but the timing of the raids is extraordinary, coming as the Trump administration is preparing to launch a major military operation against Syria.

"Timing" seems to imply something about the decision to carry out the raids, not just that the raids are coincidentally taking place at a time when they are likely to have a certain effect. If the writer were trying to imply the latter, I think he would have said something like "These raids come at an extraoridnary time".

 

 

NDPP

Michael Moriarity wrote:

 I am generally in agreement with Chomsky's position on most of these matters, because I consider him the most reliable source of information about these issues

 

NDPP wrote:

Noam Chomsky - Russian Meddling in US Elections

https://youtu.be/edC5OjBK5zU

"That has most of the world cracking up with laughter. It's just a joke. This is just making the US a laughing-stock in the world, even if every charge were correct. And most of them have no basis."

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

NDPP wrote:

Michael Moriarity wrote:

 I am generally in agreement with Chomsky's position on most of these matters, because I consider him the most reliable source of information about these issues

 

NDPP wrote:

Noam Chomsky - Russian Meddling in US Elections

https://youtu.be/edC5OjBK5zU

"That has most of the world cracking up with laughter. It's just a joke. This is just making the US a laughing-stock in the world, even if every charge were correct. And most of them have no basis."

I completely agree with the laughing stock part. If you listen to the rest of the comment, he is saying that the U.S. has done more interfering in other countries' elections than any other country, so it is a joke that they are shocked, shocked when some other country does it to them. As I put it in another post, this seems to be a case of Russia giving the U.S. a good dose of their own medicine. I'd like to hear more from Chomsky on exactly which factual allegations have no basis because some of them seem to be pretty solid.

voice of the damned

^ And as I've said before, the issue from the perspective of Americans is that laws may have been broken. Just like, when Germany arrested some of its citizens for spying on behalf of the US during the Obama years, the issue was the actions of those citizens in relation to German law. Germany's own record on the international scene, spotless or otherwise, was neither here nor there.  

bekayne

NDPP wrote:

Michael Moriarity wrote:

 I am generally in agreement with Chomsky's position on most of these matters, because I consider him the most reliable source of information about these issues

 

NDPP wrote:

Noam Chomsky - Russian Meddling in US Elections

https://youtu.be/edC5OjBK5zU

"That has most of the world cracking up with laughter. It's just a joke. This is just making the US a laughing-stock in the world, even if every charge were correct. And most of them have no basis."

This guy?

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/noam-chomsky-donald-trump_us_58385d8...

NDPP

The Democratic 'Deep State' Takeover and the Moribund State of American Politics

https://blackagendareport.com/democratic-deep-state-takeover-and-moribun...

"...The takeover of the Democratic Party by the so-called 'Deep State' (The Real State) is a product of both the crisis of imperialism and the bankruptcy of American politics. All indices point to the 2018 midterm elections being a breeding ground for the CIA's entrance into the realm of electoral politics. This confirms a trend rooted in the endless clamors for war against Russia based on intelligence assessments that Russia 'interfered' in the 2016 election campaign. Russia is but one example where the crisis of American imperialism has reached its most desperate stage. The American ruling class is in a panic over its waning global influence..."

voice of the damned

“Democrats make gun violence in America the primary midterm election issue because the passage of single payer healthcare, a scale back of the military budget, or a reduction in poverty are not issues that the Wall Street-owned, CIA Democrats want to touch.”

It seems rather strange to charge the Democrats with fighting gun violence in lieu of corporate interests, since the gun lobby is itself backed by some pretty major corporate interests. Not that the Dems can't legitimately be accused of gutlessness on the other issues, just that saying their preferred cause is gun control kinda effs up the narrative that it's all about avoiding the powerful targets.

 

josh
josh

President Kompromat in action:

President Trump “put the brakes on a preliminary plan to impose additional economic sanctions on Russia, walking back a Sunday announcement by U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley

https://politicalwire.com/2018/04/16/trump-halts-new-russian-sanctions-reversing-haley/

President Donald Trump erupted in anger when he learned the U.S. was expelling 60 Russian diplomats in March, while France and Germany were only expelling four each, the Washington Post reported late Sunday. Trump reportedly only wanted to match the number of allies' expulsions, and not to be seen as taking the lead. Trump believed his aides misled him, the Post said. "There were curse words," one official told the Post, "a lot of curse words."

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-felt-misled-angry-over-expulsion-of-60-russian-diplomats-report-2018-04-15

 

Mobo2000

VOTD, re post 987, yes agree --  fair comment, I think the author was happy to have the implication of a conspiracy there without committing to it.   And your original post on the WSW article noted this too, and I thought was a fair reading of it.

Michael, re your comment/question to me:

"As far as the press is concerned, they act as the they always do, in the interests of the capitalists who own them. Have you read Necessary Illusions? It discusses the behaviour of the MSM during the Reagan administration, but in my opinion not much has changed, except that the concentration of media ownership into fewer and fewer hands has proceeded apace."

Thanks for the comment and reply -- I have read Necessary Illusions in undergrad (years ago now).   I agree it is very similar media environment to the Reagan years and in some ways what we are seeing now in the MSM is to be expected and naturally comes from their structure and ownership.   There are a few things that feel new about it now to me, one of which is how thoroughly the right wing is attempting to adopt anti-war /anti-empire rhetoric.    And the other is the retreat of mainstream liberal/left media from the foreign policy sphere (largely by looking at foreign policy issues through an exclusively "humanitarian" lenses).   Perhaps this is happening now because the necesary illusion of the benevolent US globalcop is so much harder to maintain.  

When I compare to my memories of the media in the build up to the Iraq War II, I recall open skeptism of the chemical weapons claims on the Daily show, among other places, and while the consensus for war in the press was present and real and a problem, it somehow did not feel as overwhelming or total as it does now.   

But it's snowing in Toronto and we've had 3 days of freezing rain and it's the middle of April, so perhaps it's just weather induced pessimism or pathetic fallacy.

 

 

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

Mobo2000 wrote:

When I compare to my memories of the media in the build up to the Iraq War II, I recall open skeptism of the chemical weapons claims on the Daily show, among other places, and while the consensus for war in the press was present and real and a problem, it somehow did not feel as overwhelming or total as it does now.   

But it's snowing in Toronto and we've had 3 days of freezing rain and it's the middle of April, so perhaps it's just weather induced pessimism or pathetic fallacy.

I'm just down the road in Hamilton, so I literally feel your pain. And I think you may be right about the press unanimity in favour of war being greater now than in 2002/3. In a very strange twist of fate, the only somewhat mainstream journalist I have seen questioning the justification for these attacks is Tucker Carlson, on Fox News. Outside the mainstream, Cenk Uygur agrees with him, as do Kyle Kulinski and Glenn Greenwald. Quite an odd group.

lagatta4

There's been snow and freezing rain in Windsor, for cripes sake. I certainly agree with Chomsky that, at least since the Second World War, no power has interfered more in the affairs of other states than the US. (Beforehand, the UK was certainly handy at that stuff).  And I'm including Soviet domination of its Central and Eastern European neighbours and crushing the Hungarian Revolution and the Poznan revolt in that sorry balance-sheet. Monroe Doctrine and all that.

Not that I'm excusing the Russian Empire or Stalinism for their crimes, as well as such powers as France, and the micro-countries Belgium and Netherlands for their exactions against and plunder of their huge colonies. The horrors the Belgian king played a part in, in the Congo, certainly merit a dishonourable mention.

NDPP

The Politics of Russiagate  -  by Glenn Greenwald

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/04/russiagate-surveillance-politics-russ...

"...We are at the point where there are extreme amounts of group think that the American media has fallen prey to so many times in the past, particularly when it comes to exaggerating the threat posed by whatever foreign villain is the one most in chic.

So, if you're a Democrat in particular, being able to say, Oh, the reason we lost isn't because we have fundamental flaws in our messaging or we're totally corrupt, or we nominated a shitty candidate that everyone hated who nonetheless reflects the core values of our terrible party. It's because Trump cheated and this autocratic villain manipulated everything.

Americans have been trained for decades by a steady diet of entertainment and political propaganda to view Moscow and the Kremlin and the Russians as these incredibly threatening nefarious enemies. So it becomes more effective, more attractive and easier to shift the emphasis away from Comey onto the KGB as it were - which I know doesn't exist, but lots of Democrats don't know that - and that becomes the dominant story line..."

josh

Democratic National Committee has sued President Donald Trump’s campaign, his son, his son-in-law, the Russian Federation and WikiLeaks, saying they conspired to help Trump win the 2016 presidential election.

The DNC filed the lawsuit Friday in federal court in Manhattan. It seeks unspecified damages and an order to prevent further interference with DNC computer systems.

https://apnews.com/65be518886e94da1ad8df46cebf857d4?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

NDPP

Lawmakers Urge Criminal Probe of Senior Obama Officials

http://stephenlendman.org/2018/04/lawmakers-urge-criminal-probe-senior-o...

"Congressional lawmakers made criminal referral to AG Jeff Sessions. They called for investigating Hillary Clinton, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Loretta Lynch and others..."

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