March with Coptic Christians THIS SATURDAY!!
January 28, 2010 - 2:49pm
From the flyer:
"In a horrific attack in Upper Egypt, three Muslim gunmen opened fire on congregation coming out of a Coptic Church following midnight Christmas Eve mass on January 6, 2010. Seven young Coptic Christians were killed, and 15 were injured, 70 youth still in prison with no reasons. As a result, instead of the joyous Christmas festivities, mourners filled the streets in a heartbreaking funeral procession for the victims on Christmas day, the youngest being only nineteen."In addition, this is not the first attack that Egyptian Christians faced by Muslims, there were various previous attacks in the past few years, in particular in Southern Egypt."
From the Facebook page:
"Please join the peaceful and Christian demonstration in Downtown Toronto starting at Dundas Square at the corner of Yonge and Dundas at 11:30 AM, and ending at Queens Park (College and University) at 1:30 pm."Our hope is for the Canadian government and the International community to apply pressure on the Egyptian government to protect our fellow Copts and to prosecute violent crimes against religious minorities in Egypt."
When: Saturday, January 30th at 11:30 a.m. (Note: the website says noon.)
Where:
11:30-noon Dundas Square
12:30 p.m. Nathan Phillips Square
1:00 p.m. Queens Park
well ya, thats a good thought, but it IS a dividing and not a unifying activity.
Christians and Muslims BOTH need protection from each other... I am not sure who has killed more of the other side but I suspect the Christians are ahead on that score.
Since it is two religions killing each other, I would suggest an arbitrator who is athiest.
Maybe we should make a law against religious people having any weapons whatsoever...
Great idea Noah! Have anyone in mind?? I think we should send Mike Myers to arbitrate with the machine gun weilding Muslim terrorists. He's sort of 'atheisty' and would totally fit in there... Maybe he could serenade everyone with a flute.
Goodbye Chunky.
Goodbye Chunky.
I think JAMIE GLAZOV wrote his book "United In Hate: The Left's Romance with Tyranny and Terror" about you.
Mon dieu.
Wow Maysie, you are famous... can I get your autograph? (and obviously I take back all those BBQ tong comments, had I known you were goverened by The Important Person's Act, I would never have brought the topic up in the first place)
[ETA - and any old piece of paper will do, a blank cheque for example]
They have you earning your money already. No easing into the job.
While nothing can justify murder I thought I would look up the story.
Officials say they suspect the attack is in revenge for the rape of a 12-year-old Muslim girl by a Christian man in the town in November.
There were five days of riots in the town, with Christian properties torched and damaged, following the rape.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8444851.stm
bagkitty, I'm short, so you might have to bend way over to kiss my ass some more.
kropotkin, the honeymoon's over. LOL.
Goodbye Chunky.
I don't get this. Was there anything inaccurate there? Can you not point out that a specific group of terrorists are, in fact, Muslim? Would the same apply to a group of Christian terrorists?
The story I linked too said there were no arrests made. What is the source of your information on the religion of these murders? They could easily have been non religious given they are murdering people just as whoever raped that young girl was likely not very religious either. For all I know the perpetrator of both crimes could have been Hindu or Jewish or atheist or just like most people in the christian country of Canada non believers i.e. agnostics.
Creating the "other" only enhances the cycle of violence.
This is a horrible topic about something horrible that happened. I'm not sure what kind of progressive discussion can result from talking about this event. Even if those who perpetuated the violence are Muslim, which as kropotkin said, isn't entirely clear.
Please note the following is a rhetorical question, and then I'm closing the thread since I really don't see this discussion going anywhere. This is not about international news, the OP is about a rally on Saturday in Toronto. The information is out there for anyone who wishes to attend.
Since when has committing violent acts resulted in the label of being a terrorist? Violent gunman, sure. Murderers, no doubt. But terrorists? I think we all know to whom that label is applied liberally.
I would call the fear experienced by women at the hands of their violent partners terrorism, for example. But it hasn't caught on and I'm hardly encouraging it for obvious reasons.
And what we call this doesn't make the violence of the OP, or any of the preceding violence, okay.
But catch phrases such as "Muslim terrorist" have been thrown about a lot in recent years, and that's one thing that we as progressives can critically examine. Or, as is the case of the troll who started this thread, not.