More land stealing by the zionists
Israel has angered Palestinians with a plan to expropriate plots of West Bank land between Jerusalem and the Dead Sea including areas exposed by the lake's receding water levels.
A spokesman for Israel's Civil Administration Authority, an arm of the Defense Ministry, said Monday it advertised in the Jerusalem-based al-Quds newspaper Friday. Palestinians who object to the move were invited to file appeals within 45 days.
"The land in question includes a strip along the shores of the Dead Sea that emerged over the years as the water receded due to shrinkage," the spokesman said.
Palestinians have been lobbying Washington to pressure Israel to halt land seizures and settlement expansion in the occupied West Bank.
"This would be the largest area of land ever confiscated by Israel in one go since 1967. We will appeal against this decision," said Hatem Abdel-Qader, Palestinian Authority Minister for Jerusalem Affairs.
According to the ads, the land to be expropriated totals 139 sq kms (54 sq miles). It includes plots of land near the settlement of Maale Adumim, the spokesman said, without giving further details.
Maale Adumim is the largest settlement in the West Bank and one of three blocs that Israel wants to keep under any future peace deal with Palestinians.
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas says Israeli settlements would chop a future Palestinian state into separate cantons. He wants them removed so that the Palestinians have a viable state with territorial contiguity.
"Things are getting worse, on the ground, day by day" ... A parallel is drawn between events at Al-Safa, OPT, on June 27 and the upheaval in Iran.
From Bernard Avishai Dot Com:
Title is ambiguous. It could be interpretd as saying someone is stealing lad from the Zionists.
How's the title now?
Oh, and takeitslowly, when you're quoting an article directly, you need to put quotes around it by typing [ quote] before the text, and [/ quote] after (minus the space).
Thanks, Maysie. No ambiguity at all.
i don't understand how israel is taking more land from the palestinians. dont they have little enough? shouldnt a jewish state act morally?
and what about the environmental concerns here. this land became available because a sea receded something like 140 km^2. how did israel let that happen?
Gaza 'war crimes' hearing under way
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/06/200962861456219401....
The Ruse of a Palestinian state:
http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/07/the-ruse-of-a-palestinian-state-on-off...
"To judge by the next day's headlines, Benjamin Netanyahu's policy speech last month was a great success. "Israeli Premier Backs State for Palestinians," declared the New York Times. "Israel Endorses Two-State Goal," said the Washington Post. "Netanyahu Backs Palestinian State," announced the Guardian.
He did no such thing, of course, unless by "state" one understands an amorphous, entity lacking a definite territory, not allowed to control its own borders or airspeace, shorn of any vestige of sovereignty (other than a flag and perhaps a national anthem), not allowed to enter into treaties with other states - and permanently disarmed and hence at the mercy of Israel.
It would make as much sense to call an apple an orange or a piano a speedboat as to call such a construct a state, and yet those are the conditions that Netanyahu imposed on the creation of such an entity for the Palestinians (if they get that far in the first place)."
He did no such thing, of course, unless by "state" one understands an amorphous, entity lacking a definite territory, not allowed to control its own borders or airspeace, shorn of any vestige of sovereignty (other than a flag and perhaps a national anthem), not allowed to enter into treaties with other states - and permanently disarmed and hence at the mercy of Israel.
In other words, something exactly like Gaza.
Neutralizing a Nation
http://www.miftah.org/Display.cfm?DocId=20005&CategoryId=3
"As much as this conflict is about the political dimensions everyone knows all too well, it is also about the forced transformation of the Palestinians from a revolutionary, resisting people to a nation that must submit to Israel's dictates in order to survive."
So maybe the solution is rebuilding the economy in gaza/west bank?
this may be unrealistic, but what would happen if palestinians did halt the resistance, at least for a while, and took away israeli excuses for so-called security measures. this might allow for goods like building equipment to enter gaza and the west bank, restarting a potential economy, meaning less palestinians would have to seek work in Israel.
worst case scenario, israelis act like they tend to and dont lower restrictions. then things return to status quo.
this may be unrealistic, but what would happen if palestinians did halt the resistance, at least for a while, and took away israeli excuses for so-called security measures. this might allow for goods like building equipment to enter gaza and the west bank, restarting a potential economy, meaning less palestinians would have to seek work in Israel.
What would happen if Israel halted its so-called security measures, gave the Palestinians their land back, and took away the Palestinian excuses for resistance?
You'd probably still have rocket fire and suicide attacks. I'm not saying they aren't right, but looking at patterns, whenever there's been an upswing in resistance action, things get worse for the Palestinians... the wall was built after the influx of suicide attacks duirng the second intifida. my suggestion is reversing this trend. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but maybe it works?
Your suggestion has been tried to no avail. Israel is a relentless predator and just keeps on coming. Resistance must grow not shrink. It will help if we assist in this.
Your suggestion has been tried to no avail. Israel is a relentless predator and just keeps on coming. Resistance must grow not shrink. It will help if we assist in this.
Help in what way?
How to Help: http://www.canpalnet.ca/mambo/index.php
Occupation, Colonialism, Apartheid:
http://www.voltairenet.org/article160993.html
"The Human Sciences Research Council of South Africa enlisted a number of prestigious academics to verify the legitimacy of the apartheid characterization attributed to the regime of Tel Aviv by the United Nations Special Rapporteur.."
You Won't Find Any Lessons in Unity in the Dead Sea Scrolls - http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/22077 by Robert Fisk
"Now I have to say that I looked at these original texts in the Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto, a tale that was bound to engender a whole series of questions, not least of which is Canada's softly - softly approach to anything approaching controversy. At no point in the exhibition jointly arranged with the professional and brilliant assistance of the Israel Antiquities Affairs, is there any mention, hem hem, of the West Bank or occupation. Or how the documents found there came to be in the hands of the Israelis.."
No Enforcement No Compliance - Five Years After ICJ Ruling: Israel Expands Its Illegal Wall
http://www.washington-report.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=artic...
"On July 9, 2004 the ICJ ruled 14-1 that the wall was illegal in its entirety, that it should be pulled down immediately and that compensation should be paid to those already affected.
The judges also decided 13-2 that signatories to the Geneva Conventions were obliged to "enforce compliance by Israel with international human rights law,"
Less than two weeks later, the UN General Assembly passed a resolution 150-6 supporting the ICJ's call to dismantle the wall...
Across the occupied West Bank, the wall's economic and social impact already is disasterous.."
Re-Imagining Palestine
http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/22158
"...the two state 'solution' for the Palestine-Israeli colonial conflict is finally dead. Good riddance! It is high time to move on to the most just, morally sound and sustainable solution: the secular, democratic unitary state."
this may be unrealistic, but what would happen if palestinians did halt the resistance, at least for a while, and took away israeli excuses for so-called security measures.
Perhaps you've heard of the "Six-Day War." Following that, Palestinians resisted but little, which led to the Israeli outrages that were the catalyst for the First Intifada.Israeli riot police wielding clubs kicked out two Palestinian families from their homes in occupied east Jerusalem on Sunday, defying international protests over Jewish settlement activity in the area.
Clashes erupted after police moved in at dawn around the homes in the upmarket Arab district of Sheikh Jarrah following an Israeli court decision ordering the eviction of the 53 Palestinians, including 19 minors.
"I was born in this house and so were my children," said Maher Hanoun, whose family was evicted along with the neighbouring Ghawi household. "Now we are on the streets. We have become refugees."
The Supreme Court ordered the evictions following an appeal by the Nahalat Shimon International settler group which claimed Jewish settlers have title deeds for the properties, despite UN and Palestinian denials.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hce1b3lWDANrCmFY5sLsC...Re-Imagining Palestine
http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/22158
"...the two state 'solution' for the Palestine-Israeli colonial conflict is finally dead. Good riddance! It is high time to move on to the most just, morally sound and sustainable solution: the secular, democratic unitary state."
While I have always believed that a secular one-state solution was the only way to achieve peace, I must say that the linked article is, to my mind, a sure-fire path to all-out civil war. It is somewhat discriminatory against the Jewish population, and makes no effort to acknowledge their legitimate security concerns.
Sarcasm. Good.
So called "security" is never actually security rather it is a mask for naked aggression. This is nothing new in the annals of power and nation-state expansion. Let's look at the conflict honestly and without bias. Do the Palestinians actually stand a realistic chance at destroying Israel? No they do not. Most Palestinian groups are seeking equity in regards to land-usage and social justice and not total violent warfare with the Israeli state. Israel is much more powerful as a military, and in economics, than any Palestinian group. "Security" as a justifiable use of violent nation-state expansion is deplorable and is overtly propagandistic in the Israeli sense; as in the US. Israeli security is mere code for justified violence against their perceived enemies. What we are talking about here, and no one would disagree, is blatant nation-state expansion justified through the threat of 'Islamic terrorism.' But who is the real terrorist and aggressor? Israel holds far more power (in all senses of the word) and more international support and still they pursue a violent means for their nation-state expansion. This tells all you need to know about the intentions of Israel at the present. Palestinians are victimized on a daily basis and on mass levels; more so than the Israeli citizens. "Security" is a moot point because it is a lie. Power is what needs to analyzed. "Peace" is also a propagandistic lie. How can there ever be peace when there is extreme racial hatred guided by warfare?
Cute. No, it wasn't meant sarcastically.
Overwhelming and disproportionate retalliation is wrong and yet without question is the Israeli modus operandi, and I would grant that even the description of Israeli action/reaction as retaliation is questionable at best.
But all of the 'give' demanded in the article is demanded of one side only, the jewish side, with no obligations or requirements for the Palestinians to undertake.
Does anyone see this as likely to succeed? Particularly as the balance of power is currently weighted so heavily on the side of the Zionist expansionaries?
I personally would not count on international censure to balance these scales.
Does anyone see this as likely to succeed? Particularly as the balance of power is currently weighted so heavily on the side of the Zionist expansionaries?
I personally would not count on international censure to balance these scales.
maybe one could start by inquiring of one's MP why no mention was made of the awful and ever growing list of crimes committed by these Zionist expansionaries and why Canada continues to aid and abet them so enthusiastically. Maybe one could inquire why in god's name no mention was made of their disgusting atrocities, like Gaza - when the Zionazi, criminal-thug, FM Lieberman visited recently and was welcomed with open and glowing hearts by the representatives of Canada. I have made these inquiries and will let you know if and when they are answered.
always remembering of course my oft repeated caution: Canada has succeeded in ways Israel can only dream of