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US - Europe Conflicts Erupt in Run-Up to NATO Summit in Brussels

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/07/11/nato-j11.html

"...Intractable divisions will underlie the tensions that, it seems safe to say, will likely erupt in the coming days at the NATO summit."

 

And now a word from the friendly fascists at NATO...

https://twitter.com/NATO/status/1016261877758914560

"Why is intelligence crucial to fighting terrorism?"

josh

Trump attacking Germany ahead of meeting with Putin.  "Good asset.  Very good, asset."

NDPP

The American Shakedown

https://journal-neo.org/2018/07/10/the-american-shakedown/

"US and transnational capital that control the NATO military machine are not interested in peace unless the world submits to their will and since that will not happen the wars will go on and on and to finance them the American shakedown will continue."

 

Canadian 'Trainer' Troops to Iraq

http://ow.ly/Lei330kTV8e

"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announces that Canada will expand its leadership role by assuming command of a new NATO training and capacity building mission in Iraq..."

 

NDPP

The Donald &  the Brussels NATO Family Feud:  If You Thought G7 Was a Riot...

Germany 'Totally Controlled By Russia': Trump at NATO Meeting (and vid)

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/germany-totally-controlled-by-russia-trump-a...

"...Trump, in a testy exchange with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, took issue with the US protecting Germany as it strikes deals with Russia.

'I have to say, I think it's very sad when Germany makes a massive oil and gas deal with Russia when we're supposed to be guarding against Russia,' Trump said at breakfast with Stoltenberg. 'We're supposed to protect you against Russia but they're paying billions to Russia and I think that's very inappropriate.'

Trump repeatedly described Germany as 'captive to Russia' and urged NATO to look into the issue. Stoltenberg, for his part, credited Trump for spurring NATO nations to spend more on defence, noting that the Europeans and Canada are projected to spend around $266 billion more by 2024.

'We all agree that we have to do more,' he said, describing last year as marking the biggest increase in defence spending across Europe and Canada in a generation. Trump interjected, asking Stoltenberg whey he thought that had happened.

'It's also because of your leadership, because of your clear message, Stoltenberg responded. Trump took credit for the spending, telling the NATO chief that 'because of me they've raised about $40 billion over the last year. So I think the secretary-general likes Trump. He may be the only one, but that's OK with me..." 

NDPP

Deep Divisions Overshadown NATO Summit (and vid)

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/07/12/567850/Deep-divisions-overshad...

"A NATO summit in Brussels has been overshadowed by US President Donald Trump's demand that other member states contribute more [4% GDP] to the alliance financially. The summit came amid anti-NATO protests."

Canada OUT of  NATO! 

josh

“President Trump upended the NATO summit here Thursday by calling an emergency meeting of leaders and threatening that if all member countries do not immediately increase their defense spending commitments, the United States would go it alone,” the Washington Post reports.

https://politicalwire.com/2018/07/12/trump-threatens-nato-that-hell-do-his-own-thing/

Da.  An asset like that deserves "a whole chest full of medals."

 

NDPP

Trump-Stoltenberg Tense Talk at NATO Summit (and vid)

https://youtu.be/IbUp60CYkDE

"We're protecting everyone...we're going to have to do something about it."

voice of the damned

NDPP wrote:

Trump Told G7 Allies 'NATO Is As Bad As NAFTA'

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/trump-told-g7-allies-na...

"US President Donald Trump told fellow western leaders at the recent G-7 summit that the NATO alliance is 'as bad as NAFTA' - a North American trade deal that he has threatened to tear up. The comment, which will increase concerns that the Atlantic allies are headed for a bust up at their summit next month, was reported Thursday."

The broken clock is right twice...

I don't think his reasons for disliking NATO are the same as yours.

NDPP

You're right. Try #51

WWWTT

NDPP wrote:

The American Shakedown

https://journal-neo.org/2018/07/10/the-american-shakedown/

"US and transnational capital that control the NATO military machine are not interested in peace unless the world submits to their will and since that will not happen the wars will go on and on and to finance them the American shakedown will continue."

 

Canadian 'Trainer' Troops to Iraq

http://ow.ly/Lei330kTV8e

"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announces that Canada will expand its leadership role by assuming command of a new NATO training and capacity building mission in Iraq..."

 

Disagree and agree.

I think the US/NATO perpetual war machine has no more new candidates to continue, so that's a dead end.

But Justin kissing the US dollar's ass? The sky's the limit!

Paladin1

NDPP wrote:

Canadian 'Trainer' Troops to Iraq

http://ow.ly/Lei330kTV8e

"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announces that Canada will expand its leadership role by assuming command of a new NATO training and capacity building mission in Iraq..."

But we're peacekeepers not soldiers.

 

Not only should we leave NATO but NORAD and the 5 eyes community as well!

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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Not only should we leave NATO but NORAD and the 5 eyes community as well!

We could totally do that.  But don't throw out your "Support Our Troops" button right away!  It'll come in handy at the first sign that the U.S., or any other nation, could threaten our sovereignty in the Arctic or any similar. 

Paladin1

Button? I think you mean yellow ribbon magnets. With an S.

 

We should destroy the militaries guns and give them shovels for the winter and more sandbags in the summer.

NDPP

Trump's False Arguments Will Not Sell Well In Europe

http://moonofalabama.org/2018/07/trumps-false-arguments-will-not-sell-we...

"Donald Trump, the 'America First' salesman came to Brussels today to demand more tribute [4% GDP] to the empire. Trump, Putin's puppet according to the 'resistance', used the Russian bogeyman to set the scene..."

Fits Well...

https://twitter.com/MoonofA/status/1017482118291746817

josh
NDPP

The Trump and Putin Show (and vid)

https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/432986-trump-putin-summit-analysis/

"Donald Trump was like a bull in a china shop as he deployed his style and negotiation skills at this year's annual NATO gathering. He was not shy to say how he feels about the alliance..."

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

NDPP wrote:

The Trump and Putin Show (and vid)

https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/432986-trump-putin-summit-analysis/

"Donald Trump was like a bull in a china shop as he deployed his style and negotiation skills at this year's annual NATO gathering. He was not shy to say how he feels about the alliance..."

Well, I watched the first 10 minutes of this program. I had seen this show a few times several years ago, and it struck me then as a useful discussion program, with interesting, knowledgable people participating. This was a great contrast to that. All three guests were right wing loons, with the least crazy one being a member of racist zombie Ron Paul's organization. They all seemed to agree that Trump has preternatural deal making powers. Sheesh. Eventually I just had to quit listening to the swill.

NDPP

Here's some good old Canucklhead CBC swill...

Trump Says NATO Allies Like Canada Are 'Delinquent' On Military Spending. Is He Wrong?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-nato-allies-delinquent-military-sp...

"Yes, I think Trump has a point in that defence expenditure is a burden predominantly carried by the US. The US carries the load,'Colin Robertson, a former top diplomat and the vice-president of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, said in an interview with CBC News. We've got to do more. We can't expect the American public to pay all the costs of this alliance.' NATO is the central pillar of Euro-Atlantic defence and the cornerstone of Canadian defence and security policy - which is why Canada should contribute more, Robertson said..."

WWWTT

Here’s an idea I’m going to throw out there. 

Russian military tech/hardware is surprisingly advanced. So much so that I believe it may have stailmated NATO. 

And the leader of western military tech, the US wants to get back ahead. 

So nagging NATO nations to double or triple military spending, when the US will be supplying those bombs and drones does add up!

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

WWWTT wrote:

Here’s an idea I’m going to throw out there. 

Russian military tech/hardware is surprisingly advanced. So much so that I believe it may have stailmated NATO. 

And the leader of western military tech, the US wants to get back ahead. 

So nagging NATO nations to double or triple military spending, when the US will be supplying those bombs and drones does add up!

I think the first part of your speculation, about Russian military tech being more advanced than its U.S. counterpart is mistaken. The U.S. throws so much money at military tech that they are always way ahead of the pack.

The second part, that the real reason for Trump hectoring NATO leaders to increase military spending is to benefit U.S. weapons manufacturers, is obviously true.

NorthReport

MM well said.

Government is mainly concerned about who gets the next government contract. The rest is usually just a little show for the fans.

WWWTT

@MM

sorry but I wasn’t implying that Russian military tech is ahead of US, but near equal. 

Keeping in mind that Syria has knocked a lot of US Israel military tech down using less than the most advanced Russian military tech. 

But here’s the thing, we will never really know unless these war machines are tested. 

Heres another guess, the US may actually be hyping how advanced Russian military tech really is to scare its allies into buying from the US. 

Either way, military spending is a huge stupid waste of money!!!

And NATO is only really a huge advertisement for military spending 

Paladin1

WWWTT wrote:

@MM

sorry but I wasn’t implying that Russian military tech is ahead of US, but near equal. 

Keeping in mind that Syria has knocked a lot of US Israel military tech down using less than the most advanced Russian military tech. 

But here’s the thing, we will never really know unless these war machines are tested. 

Heres another guess, the US may actually be hyping how advanced Russian military tech really is to scare its allies into buying from the US. 

Either way, military spending is a huge stupid waste of money!!!

And NATO is only really a huge advertisement for military spending 

 

The Russian military is surprisingly well equipped but they don't advertise it.  There's some Russian units, often conscripts, who have shit for equipment, but Russia realised how useless conscripts are and how important it is to have a modern well equipped well lead military.

Some of their weapons and vehicles are seriously impressive. Their soldiers are sporting some seriously effective body armor and equipment.

They've gone out of their way to deploy with shitty looking equipment to throw off observers and switch to better stuff when conducting business.

 

 

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

Three soldiers at a joint military exercise -- one from the U.S., one from the UK and one from Russia -- are sitting around discussing their gear and provisions.  Who has the lightest boots, who has the best body armour and so on, until the talk turns to rations.

"In the Russian Army, each man is given 2300 calories per day to live and fight on!", said the Russian soldier.

"In Her Majesty's military, each soldier is fed 3500 calories per day in the field, and even more on base", claimed the Brit.

"A U.S. soldier gets 4800 calories, even in the field", said the Yank.

"Nonsense!", exclaimed the Russian.  "No man could eat that much cabbage!"

[/joke]

NDPP

Escobar: Trump, NATO and 'Russian Aggression'

http://atimes.com/article/trump-nato-and-russian-aggression/

"Hysteria is at a fever pitch. After the NATO summit in Brussels, the definitive Decline of the West has been declared a done deal as President Trump gets ready to meet President Putin in Helsinki..."

WWWTT

Perspective from China CCTV4 (a little off topic)

Russian military aircraft violated ROK airspace on 4 separate occasions today. Now ROK isn’t in NATO but Chinese media is contemplating if these incursions will have an impact on the Putin Trump meeting. 

Also India is continuing to seek purchasing Russian s400 missile defence systems. Now from my understanding India purchases of Russian military tech is the largest such exchange in the world. And this is really pissing off the US!

Chinese media is suggesting that India is working with Russia in developing improving these weapons systems and that this can help explain why Russian systems are so advanced. 

Also this collaboration is another huge irritation to the US. The US has no willing partnership to counter the Russian Indian alliance. NATO at this time appears to be rescinding, less the US. This could explain the awkward G7 and NATO meetings?

https://www.rt.com/news/429084-russian-s400-system-highlights/

NDPP

CrossTalk Bullhorns: 'Highly Likely'

https://youtu.be/hWKbYR6bvqw

"Consider the recent NATO meeting, Trump's visit to the UK, so-called 'Russiagate' heats up and the Trump-Putin summit. We discuss it all here..."

NDPP

Estonia Stops Aerial Drill With NATO After Missile 'Misfired'

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/08/10/570752/Estonia-Spain-NATO-Dril...

"Estonia has halted a NATO aerial drill in the Baltic country bordering Russia after a missile was accidentally shot by a Spanish fighter jet this week. Estonia's Defense Minister Juri Luik has 'suspended all NATO exercises in the Estonian air space.' Prime Minister Juri Ratas described the incident as 'horrible' and 'regrettable'. 'I told the secretary general of NATO that it is a serious incident and we are understandably concerned..."

WWWTT

Thanks for posting the link NDPP!

I had briefly seen/heard this missile so called misfire incident on CCTV4 China news. The Chinese government gave it a more sinister outlook, or opened the door to such a possibility.

And now with the new US sanctions rallied against the NATO strategic partner Turkey, it looks like that there's a good possibility that NATO is forming some serious cracks in its foundation!

Keep us posted posted brother/sister!

NDPP

NATO is a Public Protection Racket

https://blackagendareport.com/nato-public-protection-racket

"NATO is really a kind of public protection racket. I mean there's no enemy that NATO's supposedly defending anybody against. So what is it actually doing? It has to create its own crises to justify its existence. So it triggers crises and then claims to be the solution..."

NDPP

Amid NATO Threats, Russia Launches Largest War Games Since WWII

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/09/01/russ-s01.html

"This September, hundreds of thousands of Russian, NATO and Chinese troops are being mobilized in dueling war games across Eurasia. These exercises, the largest in Russia and Europe since the end of WWII come amid an escalation of military conflicts and tensions  directly posing the danger of a clash between nuclear-armed powers."

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