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NATO's Canadian Commander in Libya, Charles Bouchard, Must Stand Trial for Warcrimes 3

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Postmedia News, November 19, wrote:
A UN commission is now looking into whether pro-Gadhafi, rebels or NATO forces committed war crimes or crimes against humanity. The International Criminal Court could investigate if it deems there is enough evidence to support any allegation.

Bouchard is adamant war crimes were not committed under his command, including the killing of civilians. He says pro-Gadhafi forces dug bodies up from graves and brought them to places that had been bombed, where they then claimed NATO bombs were responsible.

“I set three standards that the team followed: Was this legal? Was this moral? And was this ethical?” he says. “And if we crossed those three lines, we wouldn’t do it.”

I guess crossing just one of those lines was OK.


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War Criminals Are Not Welcome in Halifax  -  by Tony Seed

http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/11/war-criminals-are-not-welcome-in-halifax/

"...From Panetta on down, the participants (300 in all) have been summoned from a select handful of countries: the US, Canada, Germany and those who wish to subordinate national sovereignty to the strategic interests of the imperialists and NATO...

The Harper government is sending Lieutenant General Charles ['The Butcher'] Bouchard to the HISF as its star representative and saviour of the Libyan people. Bouchard should also be put on trial for war crimes; he was commander of the overthrow of the country's government and the extrajudicial killing of Gadhafi and others.

Bouchard made clear he held final authority for approving all targets. On November 6, CBC Newsworld interviewed Bouchard about the need for 'action' against Syria with the Libyan war as 'a template'.

In short the US and Canadian governments remain committed to varying forms of interference and intervention throughout the world in order to safeguard the interests of the big monopolies and financial institutions in the same measure that foreign intervention in the internal affairs of Canada as exemplified by the HSIF is escalating.

It is in these circumstances that all democratic people must take a stand..."


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20 Minutes For Peace

http://20minutesforpeace.org/

"20 Minutes for Peace was founded on Nov 17, 2011, as a response to the Canadian government announcement to hold a special day of celebration in Ottawa to honour the role of Canada's military during NATO's War in Libya.

A number of Canadian citizens dedicated to the cause of Peace and against War are amongst the initial sponsors. If you would like to assist us with this project, please contact us at  info@20minutesforpeace.org

See 'Events in Your Community':

Toronto - Queen's Park (South Entrance), November 24, 11:10 ET

 


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Will the UN Insist on Fair Trials For Ex Regime Loyalists in Libya?  -  by Franklin Lamb

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/11/22/will-the-un-insist-on-fair-trials...

"What the White House and NATO want is for former key Gadhafi loyalists like Seif al Islam to be silenced (reminding one of Saddam, Osama ande Muammar) before they can reveal criminal dealings by NATO country leaders. Chances are the jailed defendants will be killed unless the UN Security Council, which allowed the destruction of Libya via UNSC Resolution 1973, intervention to uphold UN humanitarian principles.."


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NATO's Great Victory: Destroying Libya's Welfare State  -  by Dan Kovalik

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/11/23/destroying-libyas-welfare-state/

"...This without tongue in cheek, or any note of irony, NPR, in its November 14 report entitled, 'Libya's Economy Faces New Tests After Gadhafi Era', explained that the biggest impediment to the new economic era is the Libyan worker who was simply too coddled by Gaddafi.

NPR thus cited a 2007 book on the Libyan economy by authors Otman and Karlberg who called 'the Libyan worker under Gadhafi one of the most protected in the world,' receiving job tenure, government subsidies of around $800 a month for the average Libyan household, and gasoline at a mere 60 cents a gallon.

NPR, citing the same book, explained that woerkers now freed from such a tyrannical world by NATO bombs, have been left with a 'subsidy mentality' and a 'job for life outlook which has ill prepared Libyans for the more aggressive and cutthroat world of competition.

For NATO, its corporate allies and its media mouthpieces, such prosperity for workers simply will not do..."


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Harper Government Snubs Afghan Veterans With His Large-Scale Celebration of Canada's Libyan War 'Heroes' Say Afghan Veterans  -  by David Pugliese

http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2011/11/23/harper-government-snubs-afghan...

"There seems to be a growing anger - maybe resentment is a better word - about the celebrations scheduled for Thursday for the Libya mission. The Harper government has planned a full-on extravaganza with a flyby of 10 aircraft over Parliament Hill and a medal award ceremony, attended by the Prime Minister himself for Lt. Gen Charles Bouchard who oversaw the NATO mission..."


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NDPP wrote:

Harper Government Snubs Afghan Veterans With His Large-Scale Celebration of Canada's Libyan War 'Heroes' Say Afghan Veterans  -  by David Pugliese

http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2011/11/23/harper-government-snubs-afghan...

"There seems to be a growing anger - maybe resentment is a better word - about the celebrations scheduled for Thursday for the Libya mission. The Harper government has planned a full-on extravaganza with a flyby of 10 aircraft over Parliament Hill and a medal award ceremony, attended by the Prime Minister himself for Lt. Gen Charles Bouchard who oversaw the NATO mission..."

What's the point of this? Some veterans of the Afghanistan war are pissed off because they aren't getting the heroes' celebration they think they deserve?

And Harper promises the Afghanistan vets will have their triumphant celebration in 2014 when the Afghan "mission" really ends?

Have I got that right?


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Former Libyan PM Exposes US-NATO Machinations  -   by Oliver Campbell

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/nov2011/liby-n24.shtml

"Revealing comments by the former prime minister of Libya's National Transitional Council (NTC) government, Mahmoud Jibril, have further exposed the predatory character of the US-NATO campaign in Libya. Far from being a humanitarian mission to 'save the Libyan people' the war to oust Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was aimed at seizing control of the country's oil wealth...

Not surprisingly, Jibril's revealing comments have largely gone unnoticed by those who aligned themselves with the US-NATO attack, falsely claiming that it was a humanitarian mission to protect the Libyan people. A significant layer of liberals, former pacifists and ex-lefts openly sided with the attack on Libya, strenuously denying that imperialist interests were at play.

Not that the predatory character of the war is increasingly exposed, they maintain a deafening silence..."


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Pro-Gaddafi Report Resulted From Privately-Funded Canadian Fact-Finding Mission - by Stewart Bell

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/25/pro-gaddafi-report-resulted-from-pr...

"According to sources who have seen it, a private Canadian report claims that NATO forces and anti-Gaddafi rebels committed atrocities and war crimes. The Vanier Consulting study was impartially titled 'Fact Finding Report - Mission Date July 17, 2011 - July 26, 2011', but several people who have seen it called it pro-Gaddafi and said it claimed NATO forces and Libyan rebels had committed atrocities and war crimes...

Following the fact-finding mission, the consultant, Cynthia Vanier, was mysteriously arrested in Mexico city along with two partners of the retired US Marine who supplied the plane for the Libya trip. The RCMP has also questioned at least two of those who took part in the expedition.."

obviously the consultants' report was not 'on message'


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'Victory in Libya No Cause for Celebration  -  by Scott Taylor

http://thechronicleherald.ca/opinion/37286-victory-libya-no-cause-celebr...

"If your technological advantage over the enemy allows you to hover for two hours with impunity over an air defense system, before destroying it at your leisure, then it is not really war - it's murder.

If a world champion boxer climbed into the ring against a blind paraplegic in a wheelchair and proceeded to pound the helpless victim to death, we would not consider it a sport. It would be equally laughable if it took eight full rounds - or in the case of combating Libya, eight full months - to pulverize the opponent into submission..

In recognition of Canada's not-yet-fully-disclosed special forces role played in Libya, members of the Canadian Special Operations Regiment also had a colour party in the parade.

Singled out for personal recognition was Lt.-Gen. Charles Bouchard, the Canadian air force officer who had been in overall command of the NATO mission in Libya. 'He was tough, he was able, he took no prisoners,' claimed US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta..."


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Not only must Bouchard stand trial for war crimes, but all those senior officers who willingly and knowingly assisted him in planning and committing those crimes.


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It Was An Operation to Eliminate the Libyan Leader Planned by NATO (and vid)

http://libyasos.blogspot.com/2011/12/it-was-operation-to-eliminate-libya...

Convoy of Leader Moammar Al Gaddafi After NATO Humanitarian Intervention (and vid)

http://libyasos.blogspot.com/2011/12/convoy-of-leader-moammar-al-gaddafi...


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Anatomy Of A NATO War Crime  -  by Franklin Lamb

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30024.htm

"...Later as I learned more about Khaled's family and saw their most expressive and revealing photos, I came to believe that with respect to the wanton criminal aggression that caused thousands of needless deaths of innocents over the period of nearly nine months against this simple, gentle society that Najia, Safa, Salam, Khaleda and Kheweldi and the others slaughtered at Sorman are forever iconic representatives of all the innocent civilians who were slaughtered in Libya since March 2011

What our General Bouchard and his NATO bombing wrought

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePtsbkmVBlw


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NDPP wrote:

What our General Bouchard and his NATO bombing wrought

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePtsbkmVBlw

 

What Moammar Gaddafi wrought (among many incl disco bombings etc)


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CDN_FORCES, this thread is about the war crimes NATO and its constituents enacted or in which they are complicit. Your decontextualized propaganda is not constructive or welcome here. Not to mention that one war crime does not justify another. Such a mindset is antithetical to babble policy and culture. Please keep that in mind if you are going to continue to post here.


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No one ever said tit-for-tat is kosher, but if Libya hadn't been ruled by a deranged man for 42 years it's probable that the relations between it and the world would never have resulted in Berlin disco bombings, followed by Gulf of Sidra/Gaddhafi compound, followed by Lockerbie, followed by Operation Unified Protector. The chain of events seems to be one of action and re-action with larger and larger body counts.

I find the unrelenting focus on alledged Canadian war crimes in Libya to be offensive, considering that:

1. Canada did not target any weapons on civilians, or in areas where there was a valid military target but the blast would have placed civilians in danger;

2. Canada did not drop any weapons inside built up urban areas or use DU or other nastier weapons (and yes a 500 lb bomb is nasty enough);

3. LGen Bouchard was acting under a legal mandate (i.e. the UN, and yes the original rationale of "protecting civilians" soon morphed into "get Gaddafi" by the politicians); and

4. [and this is important] every effort was made by NATO as a whole to limit civilian casualties, as opposed to certain leaders who desired maximum civilian deaths.

Now, it would be a waste of time to start a new thread calling for the trial of Gaddafi on war crimes charges. But if someone would post information showing that Canada deliberately targeted civilians, or targeted a military site knowing civilians would also be killed, I'd be the first to condemn those involved.


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Col. Klink wrote:

I find the unrelenting focus on alledged (sic) Canadian war crimes in Libya to be offensive...

I find your attempts to justify war crimes offensive.

Col. Klink wrote:
1. Canada did not target any weapons on civilians, or in areas where there was a valid military target but the blast would have placed civilians in danger;

2. Canada did not drop any weapons inside built up urban areas or use DU or other nastier weapons (and yes a 500 lb bomb is nasty enough);

Chris Hedges wrote:
The besieging of Sirte by NATO warplanes, which are dropping huge iron fragmentation bombs that will kill scores if not hundreds of innocents, mocks the justification for intervention laid out in a UN Security Council resolution. We have, as always happens in war become the monster we sought to defeat. Our intervention, as in Iraq and Afghanistan, has probably claimed more victims than those killed by the former regime.
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Col. Klink wrote:
3. LGen Bouchard was acting under a legal mandate (i.e. the UN, and yes the original rationale of "protecting civilians" soon morphed into "get Gaddafi" by the politicians);

Bouchard's mandate came from NATO, not the UN. And if the "protecting civilians" mission changed into war crimes in pursuit of regime change, Bouchard was responsible. "I was only following orders from politicians" has not been a defence since Nuremberg.

Col. Klink wrote:
4. [and this is important] every effort was made by NATO as a whole to limit civilian casualties, as opposed to certain leaders who desired maximum civilian deaths.

I'm sure Qaddafi claimed the same thing, only he wasn't dropping bombs from 10 km up in the air.

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According to NATO  figures, coalition aircraft delivered 415 key strikes on the town of Sirte between Sunday 28th August and Thursday 20th October. We have compared this to the bombing of Guernica and other comparisons have been made to the widely condemned levelling of Grozny.

In addition, the rebels, described in NATO circles as a "proxy army” were allowed by NATO to indiscriminately shell the town with tank fire, heavy mortar fire and artillery....It is crystal clear that NATO, who were patrolling the skies above and bombing the town, purportedly to protect civilians, were making no attempt to protect the civilians of Sirte from this indiscriminate use of heavy weaponry.

NATO has declined to comment on why it did nothing to protect the civilians of Sirte and why it has been complicit in these war crimes.
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Is the "Col Klink" moniker necessary, M. Spector?


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Caissa wrote:

Is the "Col Klink" moniker necessary, M. Spector?

Whether or not it's necessary, it certainly isn't sufficient. Props to Spector for self-restraint.

 


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I suppose it appeals to those who like to make Nazi allusions.


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It was a TV allusion, to a pompous, self-important object of ridicule, who had no inkling of the moral implications of the system he was working for.

If I got the rank wrong, I apologize.


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CDN_FORCES wrote:

No one ever said tit-for-tat is kosher, but if Libya hadn't been ruled by a deranged man for 42 years it's probable that the relations between it and the world would never have resulted in Berlin disco bombings, followed by Gulf of Sidra/Gaddhafi compound, followed by Lockerbie, followed by Operation Unified Protector. The chain of events seems to be one of action and re-action with larger and larger body counts.

I find the unrelenting focus on alledged Canadian war crimes in Libya to be offensive, considering that:

1. Canada did not target any weapons on civilians, or in areas where there was a valid military target but the blast would have placed civilians in danger;

2. Canada did not drop any weapons inside built up urban areas or use DU or other nastier weapons (and yes a 500 lb bomb is nasty enough);

3. LGen Bouchard was acting under a legal mandate (i.e. the UN, and yes the original rationale of "protecting civilians" soon morphed into "get Gaddafi" by the politicians); and

4. [and this is important] every effort was made by NATO as a whole to limit civilian casualties, as opposed to certain leaders who desired maximum civilian deaths.

Now, it would be a waste of time to start a new thread calling for the trial of Gaddafi on war crimes charges. But if someone would post information showing that Canada deliberately targeted civilians, or targeted a military site knowing civilians would also be killed, I'd be the first to condemn those involved.

Of course Gaddafi was deranged. He was the Bad Guy after all! They're always deranged! Now, George Bush, Tony Blair who between them butchered thousands more than Gaddafi aspired to - NOT deranged.

And Obama - he who rains Hellfire from the sky, terrorizing Pakistan and a few other nations besides, who in his still unfinished first term has also despatched more innocent mortals to their maker than one Moammar - also not deranged, I'm sure. 

That Canada did not target civilians is IRRELEVANT. The undeniable reality of modern warfare - as practiced by Nato, including Canada - GUARANTEES 'collateral damage', such as the tragedy described in Franklin Lamb's account. Even if you dismiss its credibility there are far too many other such reports to be able to deny, in good conscience, that modern warfare is anything but a sordid and disgusting business that destroys innocents as readily as 'the enemy' - whatever brown person in an oil-bearing nation that happens to be. ENOUGH of this shrugging of the shoulders and fumbling for rationalization! War is a criminal enterprise, far surpassing the most bestial of civilian crimes in the scale and depth of the misery and suffering it visits upon the innocent. Think of kidnapping, raping and killing a small child. THAT is the substance of war, its flesh and bone - the repulsive Stephen Harpers' hapless 'Highway of Heroes' notwithstanding.

The criminality of the act must then be in the very decision to go to war, because it is then that hundreds or thousands of innocents are condemned to die. This is an important point. This is why Bouchard, and ultimately Stephen Harper, will burn in hell for the obscenities they have instigated and been party to.

The 'legality' of the war criminal Bouchard's mandate is immaterial. It is obscene to use the term 'war' and 'legality' in the same sentence. The stuff of war is contrary to the very concept of law, it is by its very nature transgressive, using overwhelming violence to impose one party's order upon another. Bouchard oversaw the systematic destruction of a sovereign state's ability to defend itself before going on to pursue the Bad Guy so relentlessly they tracked him down to a culvert, stuck a carving knife up his arse and murdered him. (Yeah, Oopsie! That one's on NATO too, even if they didn't hold the knife. Extra-judicial killings'r'us!)

Would that the problems of Attawaspikat inspired such determined response! (And at @ $100,000 a pop, each of those Raytheon bombs takes the place of one domestic Attawaspikat dwelling!) But I'm sure it's a lot less fun than flying over someone else's country and blowing stuff - and thousands of human beings - to bits.

The trouble is, to the powerful western nations war is something WE do to other people. We're never at risk of anything worse than missing lunch. It is too easy for our imaginations to shrink from the task of picturing the reality of 'war' and in truth, few in the west have much of a clue, Hollywood and the MSM have seen to that.

I note you've provided a fine picture of presumably the hole left by one of the planes destroyed over Lockerbie - as an example of the sort of violent transgression of civilized behavior that meritted the Nato response.

Which was to produce a whole lot of similar holes across the once-sovereign land of Libya. Do you not see the folly in that? 

 


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M.Spector,

You should check UN Security Council resolution 1973 (17 Mar 2011). NATO was the means, but the UN gave the authority.

And calling me a NAZI? So much for respectful discourse from you I guess...

 

Merowe,

Nothing ever happens without a reason. The West was eager to normalize relations with Gaddafi once he turned his Lockerbie bomber over. So was Gaddafi because he'd have normal international recognition again. And the West's oil and construction companies were making big fat profits (Quebec-based SNCLavelin was actually buildding Gaddafi a prison). Everyone was content with the situation. It wasn't until he made clear his desire to wipe out the civilian rebels in Benghazi that the UN was pushed to act.

As for war being immoral, at least one party will always be in the wrong, but I don't see any moral requirement to categorically state that all participants are. I don't think there's any need to get into specifics about which wars have been "just".


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CDN_FORCES wrote:

No one ever said tit-for-tat is kosher, but if Libya hadn't been ruled by a deranged man for 42 years it's probable that the relations between it and the world would never have resulted in Berlin disco bombings, followed by Gulf of Sidra/Gaddhafi compound, followed by Lockerbie, followed by Operation Unified Protector. The chain of events seems to be one of action and re-action with larger and larger body counts.

There is probably more evidence that Al-Qaeda-linked terrorist groups bombed the Berlin disco and leading to the US blitzkrieg attack in Libya. That was one of the first times the West tried to murder Gadaffi. And one of the accused Berlin disco bombers confessed to working for Mossad. Later the US and MI6 would recruit London-based cleric Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, the "emir" of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamist group al-Muhajiroun, in the U.S. and NATO's drive to create a militant Islamic base in 1990s Bosnia.

See William Bowles copy of a wsws.org essay: German TV exposes CIA, Mossad links to 1986 Berlin disco bombing By a German correspondent

And there is little evidence that Gadaffi was behind the Lockerbie bombing. A key witnesses for the prosecution in that trial admitted to perjury.

Gadaffi was innocent of most of the West's frame-ups of him. They wanted Libya's oil, CD_FORCEs. And your fellow Canadian Forces comrades have helped to prop-up Al-CIA'duh militants tin Tripoli.

I'm afraid it's true, CDN_FORCES. Your comrades in arms are merely errand boys, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill. Our boys in green should put in for pensions with Conoco and BP.


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NDPP wrote:

Anatomy Of A NATO War Crime  -  by Franklin Lamb

This article should not be overlooked. Here are some more excerpts:

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At NATO’s Control and Command Center, the 49 bombing missions planned for early morning of June 20, included a target at Sorman, which would push the number of NATO reconnaissance sorties over Libya to 11,930. This number would become 26,500 by midnight on October 31, when NATO would end its air campaign. The day’s bombing sorties would also bring the tally of rocket and bombing targets to 4,521. This figure would increase to more than 11,781 by late fall, when NATO was instructed to end OUP (Operation Unified Protector).

Before the bombs were fired at Khaled K. al-Hamedi compound, NATO staff conducted a six-step process, the first of which was surveillance using the MQ-9 Reaper UAV, which sometimes is also used to fire missiles.  Also above Sorman was a Predator drone with full-motion video. During June 19 and the early hours of June 20, the drones locked on the Hamedi homestead target and relayed updated information to NATO’s command center.

The Hamedi home was not what NATO labels a “time-critical target” so there was plenty of time for its staff to transmit information about the site from unmanned reconnaissance aircraft to intelligence analysts. Almost certainly, according to a source at Jane’s Weekly, NATO UAV’s watched the Hamedi compound over a period of days and presumably observed part of the birthday party being held for three [year] old Huweldi, the day before the order to bomb was issued.

NATO Rules of Engagement for  Operation United Protector, constitute a set of classified documents which present specific and detailed instructions about what is a legitimate target and who can approve the target, whether pre-planned or “on the fly” when a pilot happens upon a target of opportunity. The Sorman attack on the Hamedi home was planned as part of what NATO calls its “Joint Air Tasking Cycle" (JATC). A target development team put the Hamedi home on the June 20 daily list of targets. The team used a report from NATO intelligence analysts who determined that retired officer Khaled al Huweldi, Hamedi, one of the original members of the Gadhafi-led 1969 coup against King Idris in 1969, and a former member of the Al Fatah Revolution’s Revolutionary Command Council was living on the property. His assassination had been ordered by NATO because they hoped to weaken the regime in some way even though the senior Hamedi was retired and had no decision making role in Libya.

On June 19, the day before the bombing attack on the Hamedi family at Sorman, NATO was obliged by its own regulations and by the international law of armed conflict to conduct a “potential for collateral damage review” of this mission.

There is no evidence that this was ever done.

A requested US Congressional NATO Liaison Office review of the Sorman bombing, initially requested from Libya on August 2, was completed in early September 2011 and found no documentary evidence or other indication that anyone in NATO’s Target Selection Unit, evaluated, discussed, or even considered the subject of potential civilian casualties at the Hamedi home  in  Sorman.

Following the green light to bomb the Hamedi home, the coordinates were fixed at 32°45'24"N 12°34'18"E . Specific aim points on the Hamedi property were chosen and eight bombs and missiles were readied and attached to the strike aircraft.

At Sorman, NATO used a variety of bombs and missiles including the “bunker busting” BLU-109 (Bomb Live Unit) which is designed to penetrate 18 feet of concrete.  NATO also used the American MK series of 500 lb, (MK 81) 1000 lb, (MK-82) and the 2000 lb (MK-84) that Israel used so widely during its 2006 invasion of Lebanon.

Following the inferno at Sorman, NATO denied responsibility but the next day NATO admitted carrying out an air strike somewhere in Sorman but denied that there were civilian deaths even as its drones filmed the scene close up. NATO’s media office in Naples issued a statement claiming “A precision air strike was launched against a high-level command and control node in the Sorman area without collateral damage.”  NATO spokespersons also told Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch that “the facility was a legitimate military target and that all necessary precautions were taken before conducting the strike which minimized any potential risk of causing unnecessary casualties”....

Oddly, NATO records for June 20 as well as subsequent reports of bombing attacks listed for June 20th and June 21st in its daily logs have never included the bombing attack on Sorman or the attack on the Al-Hamedi residence which indisputably killed 15 civilians.

Just before the bombs hit, eye witnesses,  reported seeing red specks in the sky and then flashes of intense light, immediately followed by thunderous ear splitting blasts as eight American bombs and rockets pulverized their neighbor’s homestead.

In an instant Khaled El-Hamedi’s family was dead. The children were crushed, blown apart or shredded into pieces, along with friends and extended family members who had slept overnight....

Canadian Lieutenant General Charles Bouchard insists to this day that only Libya’s military was targeted: "This important strike will greatly degrade Gadhafi regime forces' ability to carry on their barbaric assault against the Libyan people,” he told the media from his office in Brussels.


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He gets few things correct.

Some facts:

1. "as eight American bombs and rockets pulverized their neighbor’s homestead".

The US had stopped dropping any weapons by about the end of April, and Canada certainly never dropped weapons there.

2. "NATO records for June 20 as well as subsequent reports of bombing attacks listed for June 20th and June 21st in its daily logs have never included the bombing attack on Sorman or the attack on the Al-Hamedi residence".

That's because NATO aircraft never dropped any bombs on Sorman.

3. There were "other", non-NATO airforces involved in Libya. I'll let you fill in the blanks.

 

 


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Blanks? You must be referring to our old allies in the anticommunist jihad made new again after 1992...

Congressman Kucinich on the Al-Qa'eda flag now flying over Libya & Langley YouTube Nov.

Never forget.


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M. Spector wrote:

Col. Klink wrote:

I find the unrelenting focus on alledged (sic) Canadian war crimes in Libya to be offensive...

I find your attempts to justify war crimes offensive.

Yes, what admirable restraint.  Address CDN_FORCES by his proper babble ID M. Spector.


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Russia Urges UN Probe of Libya Killing

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/217253.html

"Russia has renewed a call on the UN Security Council to launch an investigation into the killing of dozens of civilians during NATO's bombing campaign in Libya..."


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NATO's Depraved Disregard for Libya  - by Glen Ford

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30048.htm

"By the standard of international law, the entire NATO chain of command, civilian and military, should face trial for war crimes.."


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