North Korea conducts second nuclear test
May 25, 2009 - 7:06am
This one, unlike the last one seems to have worked.
North Korea carried out a powerful underground nuclear test Monday — much larger than one conducted in 2006 — in a major provocation in the escalating international standoff over its rogue nuclear and missile programs.
Pyongyang announced the test and Russia's Defence Ministry confirmed an atomic explosion at 9:54 a.m. local time in northeastern North Korea, estimating the blast's yield at 10 to 20 kilotons — comparable to the bombs that flattened Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/north-korea-conducts-nuclear-t...
A real threat or just a delivery request for more food and oil?
A real threat or just a delivery request for more food and oil?
I doubt it is the latter, as NK rejected food aid earlier this year:
North Korea earlier this year rejected a plan for additional U.S. food assistance and kicked out five groups distributing American aid in the country.
State Department spokesman Robert Wood said at the time, in mid-March, that the North gave no reason for refusing to accept U.S. food aid. But the rejection was worrisome to aid workers and U.S. officials.
North Korea faces chronic food shortages and has relied on outside aid to help feed its 23 million people since famine reportedly killed as many as 2 million in the 1990s, a result of natural disasters and mismanagement.
Actually I feel badly for the poor souls held hostage by the USA and corporate fascists.
Actually I feel badly for the poor souls held hostage by the USA and corporate fascists.
Why is this an example of U.S. corporate fascism, exactly? For trying to feed starving people in North Korea?
Never said it was, but now that you poiint it out, I guess they got tired of having spies delivering aide, and from the ties that the USA would be demanding from it.
Actually I feel badly for the poor souls held hostage by the USA and corporate fascists.
Really, funny, I just heard that the President, or recently former President just jumped off a cliff last week end, commiting suicide for taking 6 million in bribes.
Ask the millions of people that are driving cars, watching high definition tv and free to say whatever they wish without facing a fireing squad. And they have full stomachs as opposed to the starving people up north.
LOL!!!!!!
So they have freedom to pollute and support the oil industry, while driving up their hydro bill by several 100's from watchiing HD TV, and societal pressures keeps mouths shut, and actions cutrailed, as we can see from dude who jumped off a cliff.
And then we have this:
South Korean police arrest 457 labor activists5/17/2009, 1:30 a.m. PDT The Associated Press
(AP) — SEOUL, South Korea - South Korean police said Sunday they arrested 457 union activists who clashed with riot police during a rally against the government's labor policies at which about 150 people were hurt.
On Saturday evening, about 7,000 labor activists rallied in Daejeon, a city about 100 miles (160 kilometers) south of Seoul, and clashed with riot police trying to stop them from marching into unauthorized areas, according to the Metropolitan Police Agency.
During the rally, activists accused the government of failing to protect so-called non-regular workers-part-time or contract employees whose job security and benefits are usually worse than those of regular workers.
Union spokesman Lee Seung-chul said the crackdown was a "provocation" that threatened democracy. He said his union will seek to hold an anti-government protest with other civic groups and opposition parties.
Ask the millions of people that are driving cars, watching high definition tv and free to say whatever they wish without facing a fireing squad. And they have full stomachs as opposed to the starving people up north.
So who drove several million Koreans to the mountainous northern country and murdered 3 million Koreans with carpet bombing and dirty war in the 1950's?
And then threatened them with nuclear incineration dozens of times between then and now while propping-up a series of brutal rightwing dictatorships in South Korea throughout the cold war?
Which foreign army is still there occupying the peninsula and representing the largest threat to peace in the region and preventing Korean reunification? Is it an old imperialist strategy to maintain division among the barbarians?
That mantra is getting old. Ban TV sets, dont allow the average peasant to drive. The people of the north would love to have what the poor people in the south have.
The dude that jumped off a cliff was a thief and he got caught. BTW can the people of the North have the right to get on the internet or criticise the government as we do? Do they have the right to publish anti government newspapers? I can cut and paste articles about the North but we all know about the oppresive society they live in.
Do we or they have a right to criticize the government, or do we/they appear to have that right?
That makes no sense. You have the right to say whatever you want.....they don't. It appears no one arrested us yet.
That makes no sense. You have the right to say whatever you want.....they don't. It appears no one arrested us yet.
It wasnt that long ago(1980) that more than 2000 students and other citizens were massacred at Kwang Ju by the army for protesting the US military occupation. There were thousands of labour union and other social activists beaten and imprisoned on a regular basis in South Korea up to relatively recently.
South Korean government besieged by demonstrations and strikes 2008
Most Koreans want reunification with the North. A CitiGroup Financial report to US DoD two years ago described North Korea's economic planning as having progressed to where China was in the 1980s, and monetary and banking reforms to where China was in the 1990s.
The US doesnt want the barbarians to be united. Because while the hawks have busied themselves with bombing and invading oil and gas-rich countries, and "strategically" situated countries - the Pacific Rim of countries and Russia have been busy collaborating on economic expansion and scooping up world resources. The Pacific Rim of countries have become the largest generators of capital wealth in the world - a situation different than was true of 1980 when the US was both the premier economic *and military might bar none.
No more cold war. Nuclear weapons have no legitimate purpose. Yanks out of the peninsula, hands off Korea!
Given American history of spying through it's so called 'aid' efforts, it's not too hard to tell why NK would boot American aid groups...it's bad enough that Americans would use their aid agencies responding to the crisis in Burma to spy on the ruling Junta there (not supporting the Junta, just hating the opportunistic American policy that gets their aid agencies banned)
Nussy, I'd agree with your position if I was to completely ignore history. Your posts seem that you are arguing the ends justify the means without knowing what the means included.
I've met Koreans on an Air Korea Trans-pacific flight, they pretty much repeat Fidel...
Yanks out of the peninsula, hands off Korea!
Rocket launch in NK being reported on CNN - early stages:
1. Launch successful.
2. Rocket possibly broke up maybe a minute after launch.
3. Third nuclear test may happen soon in conjunction with this launch on 100th anniversary of first Kim.
4. Clinton announces food aid to NK will be shut down because NK was warned not to do this in violation of UN security council resolutions.
5. UN security council emergency meeting tomorrow to discuss more sanctions against NK.
6. Japanese ships combing waters for debris - any debris found will tell something about make-up of this rocket.
7. Japan saying rocket failed even before first stage completed. Japan and South Korea just confirmed the rocket failed one minute after launch.
8. Japanese had Patriot missile batteries aimed at rocket in case it started to fall towards Japanese territory - they were prepared to shoot it down if necessary.
9. Rocket used 1960s Soviet technology. Failure of the rocket a huge embarrassment for NK on their centenary (Kim).
(as mentioned this is all from CNN - so proper caution needed)
Tha Yanks and Russians have had rocket failures during the cold war era. Lots of them, and the failures were kept from public knowledge for a long time.
Still, though, who's afraid of North Korea? The Gladio Gang have N.K. surrounded with nuclear weapons and threatened them with nuclear incineration numerous times since 1953.
Perhaps in a few year's time N. Korea might be able to pose a legitimate threat to the foreign military occupation of the peninsula.
How could fascist countries threaten North Korea illegally with military attack at that point? It's just a matter of time.
Tha Yanks and Russians have had rocket failures during the cold war era. Lots of them, and the failures were kept from public knowledge for a long time.
NK has had rocket failures as well.
Tha Yanks and Russians have had rocket failures during the cold war era. Lots of them, and the failures were kept from public knowledge for a long time.
NK has had rocket failures as well.
But did the UNSC call security meetings when U.S. rockets failed, or when U.S., France, Pakistan, India etc conducted nuclear bomb tests?
What would any of the Gladio countries say if Russia or China were to carry on ringing our countries with missile installations capable of launching nuclear weapons at us?
Has something to do with the rocket test being in violation of a UN security council resolution, as I listed above.
ETA: I have no idea what sanctions the Security Council has against North Korea. Perhaps a babbler could enlighten me? (and save me the headache of searching for them on Google...)
USSA and other fascist countries launch satellites and test ICBM's all the time.
Our side is doing their darndest to start another cold war. It's all they know how to do is threaten other countries militarily(illegal since Nuremberg) and wage medieval siege against nations trying to exist outside "the sphere."
I think they got the baking soda and viniger mixture wrong again...