Obama Redux: Aftermath and Mourning After

TKO by the Technocrats

Health care.

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and regarding the circle the wagons routine, it is interesting that the Bush dynasty was actually mentioned in positive terms on CBC last night - that Jeb Bush being fluent in Spanish and the fact his wife is from Mexico might be a better choice than Romney's call for people to "self-deport" and the GOP's open voter suppression and demonizing of non-whites.

..also I read earlier this week that George Bush was the first president to deliver an address entirely in Spanish. Doesn't change anything he did, but the fact that he can actually look like a moderate says more than anything about where that party is now.

I had read that Bill O'Reilly quote, but not heard the full clip before.

There was an article I read in the past few weeks (may have even been here) which pointed out that the "47%" Romney was criticising (whom I suppose are the same as O'Reilly's people who want stuff) are far more concentrated in Republican states than Democrat ones.

And I guess Bill isn't old enough to remember Franklin Roosevelt, or all the times "traditional America" or whatever the hell he wants to call himself has played the viictim in the past.

 

Obama and progressives: what will liberals do with their big election victory?

The greatest and most enduring significance of Tuesday night's election results will likely not be the re-election of Barack Obama, but rather what the outcome reflects about the American electorate. It was not merely Democrats, but liberalism, which was triumphant.

To begin with, it is hard to overstate just how crippled America's right-wing is. Although it was masked by their aberrational win in 2010, the GOP has now been not merely defeated, but crushed, in three out of the last four elections: in 2006 (when they lost control of the House and Senate), 2008 (when Obama won easily and Democrats expanded their margins of control), and now 2012. The horrendous political legacy of George Bush and Dick Cheney continues to sink the GOP, and demographic realities – how toxic the American Right is to the very groups that are now becoming America's majority – makes it difficult to envision how this will change any time soon.

Meanwhile, new laws to legalize both same-sex marriage and marijuana use were enacted in multiple states with little controversy, an unthinkable result even a few years ago, while Obama's late-term embrace of same-sex marriage seems to have resulted only in political benefit with no political harm. Democrats were sent to the Senate by deeply red states such as Indiana, Missouri and North Dakota, along with genuinely progressive candidates on domestic issues, including Elizabeth Warren in Massachusetts and Tammy Baldwin in Wisconsin, who became the first openly gay person elected to the Senate. As a cherry on the liberal cake, two of the most loathed right-wing House members – Rep Joe Walsh of Illinois and Allen West of Florida – were removed from office.

So the delirium of liberals this morning is understandable: the night could scarcely have gone better for them. By all rights, they should expect to be a more powerful force in Washington. But what are they going to get from it? Will they wield more political power? Will their political values and agenda command more respect? Unless the disempowering pattern into which they have voluntarily locked themselves changes, the answer to those questions is almost certainly "no".

Oh you cynic, you.

 

No need to worry...The feds will not respect the vote and stop it before it even begins...

Victory! For the Non-Resistance   -  by Glen Ford

http://blackagendareport.com/content/victory-%E2%80%93-non-resistance

"The More Effective Evil has trounced those Republicans with evi intentions. Folks who never made a single demand of the corporate, war mongering Democrats think they are some kind of victors. 'The non-resistors have won a non-victory against an unimpressive enemy,' while Obama plots new atrocities..."

Ass Won!  By Linh Dinh

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article32966.htm

"Once again the world has witnessed the passion and faith the American voters have for war criminals and protecters of banksters. American democracy is like a restaurant with only two items on the menu, and no matter which you order, ass or pachyderm, you're served a toxic and bloody mess. Dissatisfied you must wait four years to order again, only to receive once more, a toxic and bloody mess."

I believe no such thing...

Screw the Elections!

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/11/06/screw-the-elections/

"...The system: the empire, the regime, the savage capitalism was murdering all over the world. Why waste time to study its mascots replaced anew every four or eight years? Fuck their elections!

The Triumph of Conservatism  -  by Tariq Ali

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/11/07/the-triumph-of-conservatism/

"Obama's victory was no surprise. Agitated liberals, fearful that their man might lose or trying to save what was left of their depleted consciences, chose to paint Mitt Romney in garish colours, a satanic monster that had to be kept out of the White House. How lucky for liberals that Obama gave the presidency the power to execute any US citizen without any recourse to law. Had it been Barack Obama, the Democrats would have been baying for blood in the NYRB and the NYT."

Romney already has a place here and has done for years...

 

They're not welcome here.

Funny I remember my teacher told me about American woman (she voted democratic party) angry and unhappy about George Bush got another victory in 2004 she moved to Ontario  (Chretein liberal year).

 

If republican move to here then 2015 will not Conservative anymore. XD

Romney's Cottage

apparently its a cottage in Beach o'pines they have had in their family for a long time. It's about an hour away from where I live and have been there a few times.

nice beach on lake huron!  

 

The first part is likely, the second not so likely. The DEA will continue to pursue and prosecute people who produce and sell marijuana in those states. Not that there's a whole lot of choice. That's the law and I don't see how the votes would be there in Congress to change it.

The rhetoric around both the campaign and its result is enough to make me throw up in my mouth. Since when did Democrat = liberal? And in what way did Romney "steer too far right"? His position isn't much different from any other republican who has run for the presidency. All you able-bodied white guys out there have little or no clue how frightening the prospect of a right wing government actually is for people most vulnerable to their lunacy. Women, people of colour, children in low income families, people with disabilities, the homeless ... Just listening to those sacks of shit talking about denying women their reproductive rights, criminalizing choice while simultaneously denying access to birth control, or even the fundamentals of sex education is, for most women, a nightmarish prospect. Criticize Obama all you like, but keep in mind, if you've never had to use a food bank to feed your kids, if you've never had a serious illness, disability or mental illness, if you've never been the target of racism or sexism, you don' know jack about the implications of the election result.

@ Rebecca

Yup, exactly.

Sure we don't want to ruin the image of shady powerful interests controlling everything, or get fooled by anything other than real revolution that we're all patiently waiting for, but the fact is there are miniscule differences..

(ahem)

like people not being denied healthcare, and the interest rate hike Mittens was going to bring in on his first day. And the candidates' differences on restoring the tax base.

Oh, and speaking of that class war that this is apparently all about:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/49726054/