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Israel Apartheid Week, and efforts to combat it, begin
Copies of the Sewer System have been sent to students at Columbia, the University of Maryland, Rutgers, UCLA, University of California at Berkley, UC Santa Cruz, UC Irvine, and the University of Washington, as well as to the American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise, the Israel on Campus Coalition, Scholars for Peace in the Middle East, and others to distribute to their campus representatives.
Online petition in support of Academic Freedom and Freedom of Speech at Queen's.
Update: Less than 27% of the eligible voters voted, but the vote was 72% to 28% in favour of impeaching the Rector for criticizing Ignatieff. As a result, the issue will be presented to the University Council on May 7, where a decision will be made whether to remove him. His term of office ends in May anyway, so it's really just a propaganda victory for the Zionists.
Israel Stands Alone - by Michael Coren
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/michael_coren/2011/03/11/17...
"I will defend all of my beliefs, but one of the ideas I am most proud of is Zionism. No apologies, no hiding, no doubts. Zionism is arguably the most successful examples of the restoration of an indigenous people to their rightful homeland in human history. It is a liberation struggle, a story of the creation of a light on the hill, that light being the Jewish state in the Middle East...
[on IAW] It's a lie, a blood libel, a politically motivated and blatantly dishonest campaign to use Soviet style propaganda to codemn Jews...a death-dark celebration of doublespeak and anti-intellectual posing.."
LOL!
Once again, Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle east is faced with a discriminatory attempt to force the cancellation of one of its events.
Late Friday, CJPME received an email from the YWCA in Hamilton cancelling a contract to rent an auditorium to CJPME for a lecture by William Parry on April 2nd. The YWCA claimed that the booking conflicted with a pre-scheduled YWCA booking, despite the fact that the availability of the auditorium had been repeatedly confirmed by YWCA staff since March 16th and that the $200 rental fee had been paid.
The cancellation took place the day after the YWCA received the following threatening email from a group purporting to represent Hamilton's Jewish community:
I am a member of the Never Again Group and we would like to know why you have chosen to highlight a controversial display of "art" that has no basis in truth and which vilifies and demonizes Israel. Surely you must know by now that this campaign against Israel ignores all the terrorism and totalitarianism in the region that makes security a top priority in Israel, a place that accepts people of all cultures, colour and religions unlike the dictatorships now killing their own people who are fighting to decide if some form of freedom or just more anarchy, hate and war will prevail in these troubled countries.
This art display would be more appropriate were it to reveal the unexplored tyranny in Muslim countries.
etc. etc. ad nauseam
After receiving a letter from a CJPME lawyer on March 28th, the YWCA said that the scheduling conflict had been resolved, but that CJPME would have to pay $600 for police security to retain its booking. The move by the YWCA would effectively quadruple the cost of hosting the event.
William Parry is a photojournalist based in London and has lived and worked in the Middle East for many years. He has been published in The Guardian and The Independent and a number of other magazines and journals. He has also written for the Washington Review of Middle East Affairs, The Middle East, Times Higher Education Supplement, and several electronic news organizations.
This is the second time in two months that a Hamilton institution has bowed to pressure by an extreme and intolerant pro-Israel lobby group. In February, Mohawk College imposed onerous security costs at the last minute for a hall rented by CJPME for a lecture by US scholar Dr. Norman Finkelstein. The event had to be moved to a local church, where Finkelstein spoke to a crowd at event hosted without incident.
Read the March 29 press release of CJPME
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Update March 31:
We would like to express our greatest appreciation to all of you who took the time to respond to CJPME's action alert on the YWCA's attempt to force the cancelation of CJPME's Parry event in Hamilton. Since yesterday scores of you emailed and called the YWCA in Hamilton to let them know that their demand for $600 in police security fees was unacceptable. We were strongly encouraged by your massive participation and your extraordinary support for this CJPME initiative and its overall work.
You'll be happy to learn that, as a result of your efforts, the YWCA has decided to waive the onerous security charges and let William Parry's lecture go ahead as planned on Saturday, April 2nd. Such a positive outcome would not have been possible without your participation and support. Many thanks again!
there was a great letter to the editor today in the winnipeg free press.
they had published a few letters denouncing/supporting IAW, and have had editorials in the past that were anti IAW...
the letter said "since you've printed several letters and editorials about IAW, is it too much to ask for you to send a reporter down there and cover it?"
great point!
Jenny Peto: Why the town of Markham is so concerned about Israeli Apartheid Week
The motion itself is quite puzzling because no IAW events take place in Markham - IAW is campus-based and Markham has no universities. This begs the question of why the Town of Markham is making the move to ban an event that does not take place within its jurisdiction. The answers to this question, I believe, shed light not only on the situation in Markham, but also provide important context to the attacks on IAW and pro-Palestine activism across Canada....
While there is a compelling case to argue that this motion is simply a manoeuvre to pander to the pro-Israel base in Markham, there are certainly other factors at play. One central issue is economic ties between the Town of Markham and Israel. Shore has boasted of the plans for Markham to send a trade delegation to Israel in order to intensify their economic cooperation. This delegation is in partnership with York University, which is not surprisingly targeted by Shore's motion. It is no coincidence that as Markham is set to increase its trade relations with Israel, they are moving to silence any criticism of their important business partner. This tactic is not new or unique to Markham. In 2010, shortly after the condemnation of IAW, Premier Dalton McGuinty went on a highly-publicized trade mission to Israel. In Manitoba, a province with strong economic ties to Israel, attempts have been made to condemn IAW provincially and the University of Winnipeg administration has been trying harder than most to ban IAW through bureaucratic hurdles, including booking all rooms on campus during the March week of events this year. The Town of Markham's motion is simply the first attempt at the municipal level. Attacking Palestine solidarity activism has now become a key element of any efforts to strengthen trade with Israel - crush dissent so that you can carry out business as usual.
ETA: Gah! The spam filter will not let me post the link to this article for some reason. It's from the socialist project.ca
Canadian Arab Federation
La Fédération Canado-Arabe
PRESS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Markham City Council bans criticism of Apartheid regimes
May 4, 2011
Yesterday, a majority of Councillors from Markham City Council adopted a motion to censor “Israeli Apartheid Week” that is organized each year in March by students on Canadian universities.
Israeli Apartheid Week (IAW) is a week of lectures and film screenings that takes place peacefully on campuses each year and hosts prominent academics and community leaders to very high-level political and academic discussions.
IAW condemns all forms of racism and discrimination. It explicitly condemns anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, anti-Arab racism, and homophobia. Many Jewish students are involved in organizing IAW.
This year, for the seventh year, IAW was held in 95 cities and more than 75 universities on six continents, including 3 cities in Israel and 4 cities in the occupied West Bank and Gaza.
Ironically, the motion passed by Markham City Council aims to deny Canadian students and academics the rights of freedom of expression and academic freedom, rights that are enjoyed by Israeli students and academics. In addition it interferes in University affairs.
The motion creates the absurd situation where Canadian students and academics are allowed to freely criticize their own government but are banned from criticizing a foreign government.
The motion put forward by Councillor Shore is one of those several attempts currently being undertaken to censor and suppress public debate on this subject in order to shield Israel’s actions from scrutiny and criticism.
Such actions are an attack on free speech the likes of which we have not seen since the 1950s McCarthy witch hunts.
By its decision, Markham City Council ignored the comprehensive study undertaken by Toronto City staff that determined the use of the phrase “Israeli Apartheid” does not promote hatred or discrimination, and does not violate the Criminal Code or the Ontario Human Rights Code.
Markham City Council also ignored the compelling evidence introduced from the Human Sciences Research Council of South Africa, the Conference of Southern African Christian Churches, the Association of Civil Rights of Israel and the Legal Centre for Arab Minority Rights in Israel, that irrefutably proves Palestinian Arab citizens of Israel are systematically discriminated against and that the situation in the occupied West Bank and Gaza is reminiscent of apartheid in South Africa.
The spectrum of diversity was well-represented by those who spoke against the motion and in support of free speech and Palestinian rights. Those presenters included Jews, Christians and Muslims of all ages and gender, and from various ethnic and racial backgrounds.
Understandably, Councillor Shore’s motion placed the other Councillors in a corner. Markham City Council had unfortunately decided recently to send a trade mission to Israel. The rejection of Councillor Shore’s motion would have implied that they condone the labelling of Israel as an Apartheid state and would have placed them in the awkward position of doing business with an apartheid regime.
Regrettably, this politically expedient decision runs counter to the Town of Markham’s stated mission to recognize and accept the diversity of its residents, to respect the differences in all peoples and their right to hold different opinions, to promote the value of human rights, and to oppose racism and discrimination.
http://www.caf.ca/HomePage.aspx
In a rare move, the trustees of the City University of New York have voted to shelve an honorary degree that one of its campuses, John Jay College, planned to award to Tony Kushner, the Pulitzer Prize-winning playwright of "Angels in America." The vote on Monday evening came after a CUNY trustee said that Mr. Kushner had disparaged the State of Israel in past comments, a characterization that the writer attacked on Wednesday.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/05/nyregion/cuny-blocks-honor-for-tony-ku...Bullshit.
Al-Q 's quote from the article :
"Ironically, the motion passed by Markham City Council aims to deny Canadian students and academics the rights of freedom of expression and academic freedom, rights that are enjoyed by Israeli students and academics. In addition it interferes in University affairs.
"The motion creates the absurd situation where Canadian students and academics are allowed to freely criticize their own government but are banned from criticizing a foreign government."
And "where Canadian students and academics are allowed to freely criticize their own government..." But that's the rub, eh? This could be a situation - hardwon over centuries of protest and war - terribly foreshortened by such hugely ignorant acts.
Take My Degree Back
Moreover, because more than 70 percent of all the instruction in American institutions of higher education is now in the hands of men and women with part-time or temporary positions, academic freedom is particularly at risk. These faculty members have no job security, and thus no academic freedom, whatsoever. Unless they are protected by a union contract, they can be fired at any time, for any reason, or for no reason at all. In addition, because their reappointments depend on student evaluations, few are tempted to raise controversial issues, challenge their students, or even give low grades.And (via Maysie): Barbara Ehrenreich returns honorary degree too!
In 2004 I was proud to receive an honorary degree from John Jay College in recognition, as I recall, for my work exposing poverty and promoting social justice. At the time, it did not occur to me to question John Jay’s qualifications for awarding such an honor. But today, having read of the Trustees’ vote to deny a similar honorary degree to playwright and activist Tony Kushner-- as well as Jeffrey Wiesenfeld’s comment in the New York Times suggesting that Palestinians “are not human”—I do have to question both your qualifications and the legitimacy of the honorary degree I was given.
Hence my decision to renounce my own honorary degree, which I will return to you if I can find it. Please expunge me from your record of past honorees.
Sincerely,
Barbara Ehrenreich
City University of New York reverses decision to block an honor for Tony Kushner over his views on IsraelThe board last week blocked a proposed honor for Kushner after one member, Jeffrey Wiesenfeld, opposed the honor because of Kushner's critical statements about Israel and its policies toward the Palestinians. Wiesenfeld, a right-wing pro-Israel activist, later described Kushner as a "Jewish anti-Semite" and suggested Palestinians are "not human" because they "worship death for their children."
After the episode was publicized on Wednesday, the backlash began almost immediately. Prominent academics and literary figures weighed in in favor of Kushner, and several previous CUNY honorary degree recipients returned their honors, or threatened to do so, in protest of the move.
Kushner previously said he would not accept any honor from CUNY; it's unclear whether he will now change his mind.
This is the second time this year that CUNY has reversed itself in a controversy related to Israel. The previous incident involved an adjunct professor who lost his job after his syllabus for a Mideast politics course was criticized as not sufficiently favorable to Israel. (Wiesenfeld also played a role in that case.) The instructor, Kristofer Petersen-Overton, was rehired after widespread criticism of CUNY.
Great news!! Thanks CF.
I have never heard of this guy before but apparently this Jeffrey Weisenfeld guys is just loads on extremely racist toward, Palestinians like really, really obsessed. As in possibly worse that Horowittz or Dershowitz. Even a NY Times reporter took offense.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/06/nyregion/opponent-of-honor-for-tony-ku...
http://absurdbeats.wordpress.com/2011/05/06/jeffrey-wiesenfeld-go-fuck-y...
Having stood on the wrong side of history during the Tunisian and then the Egyptian revolutions, supporting the despots and authoritarian regimes against the people, Israel has a lot to lose from the democratic winds of change in the region. When Hosni Mubarak was about to be overthrown by the people's revolution in Egypt Israel launched a diplomatic campaign to convince key Western capitals to support him lest stability is lost and Israel's other tyrannical friends in the region feel abandoned.
In Tunisia, as well, the vaunted electronic surveillance apparatus of the former dictator Ben-Ali was run in close cooperation with Israel, as exposed by Tunisian civil society organizations. With more of Israel's friends in the region being dethroned, it is becoming abundantly clear how much Israel and its Western partners have invested in safeguarding and buttressing the unelected, autocratic regimes in the Arab world, partially to make a self-fulfilling prophecy of Israel as the "villa in the midst of the jungle" -- the myth often repeated by AIPAC. The impact of debunking that myth cannot be overstated. Israel has, for decades, extracted billions of dollars, not to mention diplomatic, political, and scientific support from the U.S. and European states partially based on this misleading image of Israeli democracy, and despite all the evidence to the contrary
Omar Barghouti
AIPAC 101: What Every American Should Know - Anthony Lawson (vid)
http://vimeo.com/23674530
You have to see this video to believe it. AIPAC members being interviewed repeatedly deny that Palestinians are occupied. Their vitriol (we've seen the same tired "arguments" on babble for years) is matched only by their ignorance of basic facts; one AIPAC lobbyist doesn't even know that Pakistan and Palestine are two separate areas.
Feeling the Ignorance at AIPAC 2011Is it ignorance or is it an attempt to cloud and confuse? Most North Americans are woefully ignorant about these issues so you can get way with anything so long as it in some way seems to fit in with that column of being pro-Israeli. Years ago the Mossad used fake Canadian passports to carry out a kidnapping. Immediately afterward all sorts of echo chamber outlets spouted off fears about future Islamic/Arab terrorists using fake Canadian passports that it clouded the discussion of who did. Hillary Clinton even said the falsehood that the 9-11 hijackers used Canadian passports to get into the US (they did not). This is about who controls the discussion and in North American that is the Right and a subset of that is the pro-Israeli right. Look how many Rightist bots have invaded rabble lately.
The Knesset House Committee has voted to strip MK Haneen Zoabi of her privileges as a Member of the Knesset, including the right to hold a diplomatic passport, in order to prevent her from participating in the second humanitarian Gaza aid flotilla next month.
- Jerusalem Post
Wow!!! Its as if she has secondary (or less) status as an MK or as a human being. Oh yeah! Another characteristic of apartheid.
The Knesset House Committee has voted to strip MK Haneen Zoabi of her privileges as a Member of the Knesset, including the right to hold a diplomatic passport, in order to prevent her from participating in the second humanitarian Gaza aid flotilla next month.
- Jerusalem Post
Yesterday On Power and Politics Ian Capstick said the NDP should keep their mouths shut concerning Middle East Issues. He says there is nothing we can do as 4th party, official opposition or as the Government of Canada so it is smart to not say anything. Greg Weston said, "I hope not".
Man that Capstick is spineless.
By now we’ve all become accustomed to the creepy, liberty-limiting laws emerging every few months or so from the right-wing (though hardly always right-wing) precincts of the Israeli Knesset. I’m thinking, of course, of the Nakba law, the Loyalty Oath law, the law requiring NGO’s to declare their sources of funding, and so on and so on and so on.
But the last few weeks have seen a flurry of anti-Democratic efforts that have been impressive even by the current Knesset’s standards. There was the bill proposed earlier this month by four right-wing members of Knesset that would give the government the power to disband existing NGOs and refuse to register new ones if they “deny the Jewish character of the State” – a clear jab at the country’s Arab population. More recently, on Sunday, two proposals were presented to the Ministerial Legislation Committee, each designed to limit the amount of money “political” NGOs can receive from foreign entities – and foreign entities, by the way, include the United Nations and the European Union.
Now there is “The Bill to Prevent Harm to the State of Israel Through Boycotts.” That’s right, a law that would make it a civil violation to call publicly for a boycott of the State of Israel.
...read on
Man that Capstick is spineless.
What is his official capacity in the NDP, if any?
Man that Capstick is spineless.
What is his official capacity in the NDP, if any?
Head sycophant although there are others giving him a run for the title.
ie. A servile self-seeker who attempts to win favor by flattering influential people
Israel Stands Alone - by Michael Coren
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/michael_coren/2011/03/11/17...
"I will defend all of my beliefs, but one of the ideas I am most proud of is Zionism. No apologies, no hiding, no doubts. Zionism is arguably the most successful examples of the restoration of an indigenous people to their rightful homeland in human history. It is a liberation struggle, a story of the creation of a light on the hill, that light being the Jewish state in the Middle East...
[on IAW] It's a lie, a blood libel, a politically motivated and blatantly dishonest campaign to use Soviet style propaganda to codemn Jews...a death-dark celebration of doublespeak and anti-intellectual posing.."
LOL!
Apologies if the original post was offensive. It wasn't intended to be.
Socred, please abstain from speculating about a person's character, intentions or integrity based on their (perceived) ethnicity, religion or race. And don't ever call someone a "damped Jew" again. This is your final warning.
What does it mean to call somebody "damped", anyway? are Coren't socks wet or something?
....their homeland" is the biggest lie perpetrated in the course of humanity in my opinion.
Well, perhaps the second biggest.
Is anyone else waiting for the other foot to drop and later read what the biggest lie ever perpetrated is in Socred's opinion?
Need I remind Socred that many Jews do not support Israel and feel absolutely no attachment to it. Israel is Not representative of Jewish people the world over, and the practices of said state are protested as well by caring Jews who reside there.
What does it mean to call somebody "damped", anyway? are Coren't socks wet or something?
It's a reference to Christian baptism - a suggestion that the person is trying to pass as a Christian, or at least a non-Jew. The term is clearly not appropriate in Coren's case, quite apart from any question of its offensiveness.
Socred, please abstain from speculating about a person's character, intentions or integrity based on their (perceived) ethnicity, religion or race. And don't ever call someone a "damped Jew" again. This is your final warning.
I wasn't speculating on Mr. Coren's character or integrity based upon his race. I was merely pointing out the fact that his name is actually Jewish because it's a derivation of the name "Cohen".
I apologize for using the above term, but it was meant to be a statement of fact, not a derogatory term.
What term would you prefer I use?
What does it mean to call somebody "damped", anyway? are Coren't socks wet or something?
It's a reference to Christian baptism - a suggestion that the person is trying to pass as a Christian, or at least a non-Jew. The term is clearly not appropriate in Coren's case, quite apart from any question of its offensiveness.
Need I remind Socred that many Jews do not support Israel and feel absolutely no attachment to it. Israel is Not representative of Jewish people the world over, and the practices of said state are protested as well by caring Jews who reside there.
No, absolutely not. There are Jews who oppose Zionism. Norman Finklestein, Jews Against Zionism, and even Karl Marx as well as many others.
Unfortunately, these Jews are labelled "self-hating Jews", or in the ultimate irony "anti-Semitic" Jews, by Zionists.
There is a powerful lobby attempting to stifle all criticism of Zionism.
What does it mean to call somebody "damped", anyway? are Coren't socks wet or something?
It's a reference to Christian baptism - a suggestion that the person is trying to pass as a Christian, or at least a non-Jew. The term is clearly not appropriate in Coren's case, quite apart from any question of its offensiveness.
Are you claiming that Mr. Coren's name does not come from "Cohen"?
Are you claiming to be older than twelve?
Socred - does that come from Redsox? What are you trying to pitch here?
Coren derives from the Jewish name Cohen.
Is there any wonder why he's pro-Zionist?
Like I said, don't draw conclusions based on a person's presumed ethnicity.
I don't know what your link is supposed to prove, but your term is neither a statement of fact nor non-derogatory. It is a hateful term with a hateful history. Use it on Stormfront, not here.
You don't need to refer to someone's race or religion at all in such a context. "Zionist" does just fine.
Now that this is settled, back to the discussion please.
What does it mean to call somebody "damped", anyway? are Coren't socks wet or something?
It's a reference to Christian baptism - a suggestion that the person is trying to pass as a Christian, or at least a non-Jew. The term is clearly not appropriate in Coren's case, quite apart from any question of its offensiveness.
Are you claiming that Mr. Coren's name does not come from "Cohen"?
Are you claiming to be older than twelve?
Is that the best argument that you have?
Coren derives from the Jewish name Cohen.
Is there any wonder why he's pro-Zionist?
Like I said, don't draw conclusions based on a person's presumed ethnicity.
I don't know what your link is supposed to prove, but your term is neither a statement of fact nor non-derogatory. It is a hateful term with a hateful history. Use it on Stormfront, not here.
You don't need to refer to someone's race or religion at all in such a context. "Zionist" does just fine.
Now that this is settled, back to the discussion please.
I'm sure Stormfront uses the term "Zionist", or "is" or "night" or "day" or..........
Does that mean that these terms are "racist"?
The term refers to people of Jewish descent who converted to Christianity.
If race or religion were not pertinent to Zionism, then why does Israel have a "Law of Return"?
In fact, what does Zionism mean if it has nothing to do with race or religion?
Socred - does that come from Redsox? What are you trying to pitch here?
The truth.
Does a person's name have any connection to a person's religious beliefs?
Are Jews a religion or a race?
I believe it's a religion.
Given those two choices.
I just found this reply by Mr. Coren to my comments.
http://blogs.canoe.ca/corenscomment/consider-this/im-a-damped-jew/
I guess the media is hurting for news stories.
Of course, the resorts to ad-hominem are to be expected when you question Zionist motives.
My comment was "screaming" - lmao!
Then he makes the claim that "this sort of racism is common of the left", implying that I have anything to do with the "left" because I happened to post a comment on Rabble.ca And implying that my statements were "racist" because I pointed out the fact that he is Jewish in relation to his article on Zionism.
Talk about prejudiced conclusions!
He also points out that the people who own this place are "French Canadians", and a "German/Baltic" guy who runs it.
Talk about racism!!!
I believe it's a religion.
Given those two choices.
I happen to agree with you.
But that's not the "textbook" definition.
A person can be "Jewish" by birth.
I was a catholic by birth or shortly thereafter. Didn't really take with me but the church still counts me as one. I wasnt trying to disrupt the thread just wanted some context on some of the drift.
Socred, I am not arguing with you. I am not discussing this with you. I made my position clear: don't use the term again, or you'll be banned from the site. And stop derailing this thread, or you'll be suspended.
I haven't used the term again as per your request.
And I wasn't trying to disrupt the thread with any "drift".
I made my point in more ways than one.
Are you claiming that Mr. Coren's name does not come from "Cohen"?
I am. Because I actually know what I'm talking about.
They key root in "Coren" is "or" which is Hebrew for "light". "Cohen" is an anglocization of the word "Kohain" which means "priest" and is a common last name for descendents of Aaron, the first "kohain gadol" or "high priest".
Further, Michael Coren's father is Jewish, his mother is not. Given that Judaism is matrilineal, Coren is NO type of Jew. But, hey, way to not let easily verifiable facts get in the way of your Jew-baiting conspiracy theories.
I, on the other hand just went for an evening swim and THIS Jew is still a bit "damped". So let your diatribes begin...
Hey Socred, could you do yourself a favour, do rabble.ca a favour, and for the clarification to the rest of the world and go to Coren's blog and actually point out that you are a proponent of the Social Credit movement, of Douglas, and so forth? That might help your cause and help rabble.ca point out what an awful distorter of reality that Coren continues to be in his realm and in Canada generally.
It is just one of a whole host of facts that Coren has ignored for his own agenda, just on this particular point alone.
I just found this reply by Mr. Coren to my comments.
http://blogs.canoe.ca/corenscomment/consider-this/im-a-damped-jew/
I guess the media is hurting for news stories.
Of course, the resorts to ad-hominem are to be expected when you question Zionist motives.
My comment was "screaming" - lmao!
Then he makes the claim that "this sort of racism is common of the left", implying that I have anything to do with the "left" because I happened to post a comment on Rabble.ca And implying that my statements were "racist" because I pointed out the fact that he is Jewish in relation to his article on Zionism.
Talk about prejudiced conclusions!
He also points out that the people who own this place are "French Canadians", and a "German/Baltic" guy who runs it.
Talk about racism!!!
Hey Socred, could you do yourself a favour, do rabble.ca a favour, and for the clarification to the rest of the world and go to Coren's blog and actually point out that you are a proponent of the Social Credit movement, of Douglas, and so forth? That might help your cause and help rabble.ca point out what an awful distorter of reality that Coren continues to be in his realm and in Canada generally.
It is just one of a whole host of facts that Coren has ignored for his own agenda, just on this particular point alone.
What does it mean to call somebody "damped", anyway? are Coren't socks wet or something?
It's a reference to Christian baptism - a suggestion that the person is trying to pass as a Christian, or at least a non-Jew. The term is clearly not appropriate in Coren's case, quite apart from any question of its offensiveness.
Are you claiming that Mr. Coren's name does not come from "Cohen"?
Are you claiming to be older than twelve?
Is that the best argument that you have?
I'll take that as a "no".
I'll take that as a "no".
Give it a rest. I'm probably older than you are, and certainly much older than 12.
Weak attempt to try to get me kicked of this message board because you disagree with my statements.
I actually thought about it, but in order to post on his blog, I have to leave my email address, and I don't want any harassment by him or anyone he knows.
Hopefully, someone will send him this reply.
I guess you just don't understand how easy it is to get many e-mail addresses. Otherwise I might think you were being purposely disingenuous.
First week learning how to run a computer?
It is just one of a whole host of facts that Coren has ignored for his own agenda, just on this particular point alone.
I can't believe that he has to look at posts on some website for "news".
Hey Socred, could you do yourself a favour, do rabble.ca a favour, and for the clarification to the rest of the world and go to Coren's blog and actually point out that you are a proponent of the Social Credit movement, of Douglas, and so forth? That might help your cause and help rabble.ca point out what an awful distorter of reality that Coren continues to be in his realm and in Canada generally.
It is just one of a whole host of facts that Coren has ignored for his own agenda, just on this particular point alone.
Hey, Michael, get it through your thick skull, I have nothing to do with Rabble.ca, nor am I a "leftist"!!
Throw enough mud and hopefully something will stick?Socred, you're spoiling this thread with your narcississtic derailment. And your email to Coren, which you posted at #51 is anti-Semitic. Don't post in this thread again, or you'll be suspended.
Socred, you're really embarassing yourself and - by extension - this site in its entirety with your anti-Semitic nonsense. And, yes, it IS anti-Semitic. Going around, finger pointing and accusing people of being in Jewish (as if it's something they should have to deny) is anti-Semitic. Pointing out that someone has Jewish background and therefore simply MUST support certain policies, ideologies, etc. is also anti-Semitic as well as being stupid. Yes, "Coren" is a Jewish name. Guess what? So is "Chomsky" and "Finkelstein" and "Blumenthal". Do their Jewish backgrounds tell you what they think too? Or is someone's perceieved religion only used as an attack against them when they disagree with you?
Mr. Tea, I agree with you (as do the rest of us, I'm sure), but please don't invite Socred back to this thread to defend himself. He's not permitted to post here again.
Well this is what I attempted to put up on Coren's blog and it said it would wait for a moderator's approval so it was not a technical issue - but it never appeared. So Coren cannot really accept any rebuttal except for something so crude that it effectively becomes one of his straw men. Thus he is like Limbaugh's callers who call in to say 'ditto.'
Actually rabble.ca was quite clear in condemning the phrase used. I would encourage readers to go to rabble.ca and see that for themselves. They would find a whole host of people who condemn anti-Semitism without hesitation while at the same time recognizing the Palestinian right to self-determination. And many of us do not want to close conservative media sources, we are just not comfortable with the CRTC being pressured to change the rules to allow media to wilfully lie about stuff. Again, people ought to go to rabble.ca to see that for themselves.
You invited Coren's readers here? Geez!
Well like I said it was never posted. What I did notice was how many other blogs re-posted his article and more or less said the tantamount to "yeah" without mentioning if they bothered to check it out. Just a reflexsive agreement without a pause to see anything for themselves. My point was that his blog would not allow me to point out something really obvious: that the comment was derided, met with the utmost negativity, etc. I suspected the comment would not get in and this proved me correct. Its not as if what I said was that provacative. Sorry if that alarms or upsets you, M. Spector, but I would point out that we already have a few Zionists posting here and they do not get rebuked that much besides the odd rebuttal from either you, myself, or Catchfire. I see no reason why others cannot join in the fight against any of the Zionist/pro-Israeli posters. There are just too many yet unasserted indictments against Israel that have yet to be made here.
You invited Coren's readers here? Geez!
I was just yanking your chain.
Well this is what I attempted to put up on Coren's blog and it said it would wait for a moderator's approval so it was not a technical issue - but it never appeared. So Coren cannot really accept any rebuttal except for something so crude that it effectively becomes one of his straw men.
Same thing happened with my comments. Coren disingenuously holds himself up as a defender of free speech, while accusing rabble [sic] of trying to silence people who they disagree with. Yet it's babble that allows people to post directly, while Coren's blog is pre-moderated, allowing him (or somebody) to pick and choose only those comments that support his narrative. That's why the only critical comment that got through was some ass who suggested he shouldn't have been allowed into Canada.
If that is the case, then it is kind of sad to see the efforts that Coren et al will go to to avoid contact with reality.
@M. Spector: oops.
@Freedom 55: Exactly. I wonder if anyone else scanning the Interwebs, etc took notice of that outside of rabble/babble. Thus far I could only find other Rightist blogs doing the 'ditto' wave. And wow those other Rightist blogs are so nauseating that it is beyond the pale, beyond belief. Some are blending their beliefs into total incoherence. A total outright anti-Semite like Paul Fromm is featuring links to Ezra Levant which too much like the English Defense League lining up with the Jewish Defense League.
I have yet to find a Right-wing website that allows posting in the same manner as rabble/babble. My time on the Internet is get more limited as time progresses so I cannot spend too much time searching for that. I would be curious if there are any pro-Zionist Rightist website that do allow that sort of thing.
Before this thread got derailed I referred to the anti-boycott legislation that the Knesset was about to pass (see #23 above).
Well, the bill was passed on July 11.
Criticism was not limited to the left-wing alone. The increasingly right-leaning Jerusalem Post penned an editorial against the legislation. It even sparked a bit of controversy inside of Likud, with a couple of party members likening the legislation to "third world laws."
But the criticism from both the left and right is problematic—for the most part, it neglects the serious problems that were plaguing "Israeli democracy" long before the anti-boycott law was approved.
An editorial penned by the New York City-based Jewish Daily Forward offers an example. After criticizing the recent legislation, the author(s) go on to add, "It may be that when the Israeli Supreme Court hears the inevitable legal challenge to the anti-boycott law, it will rule it unconstitutional and prove, again, that a democratic system of checks and balances exist in the Israel polity."
In reality, the "system of checks and balances" has been broken for some time, with the state consistently ignoring Supreme Court rulings that are not to its liking.
What Israeli Democracy?
All of this is just more evidence of what an entirely debased, sick society Israel is becoming. While there is some attention to this in the bigger North American corporate print media, I have not witnessed much on US or Canadian corporate TV news. Or have I missed something?
Before this thread got derailed I referred to the anti-boycott legislation that the Knesset was about to pass (see #23 above).
Well, the bill was passed on July 11.
Criticism was not limited to the left-wing alone. The increasingly right-leaning Jerusalem Post penned an editorial against the legislation. It even sparked a bit of controversy inside of Likud, with a couple of party members likening the legislation to "third world laws."
But the criticism from both the left and right is problematic—for the most part, it neglects the serious problems that were plaguing "Israeli democracy" long before the anti-boycott law was approved.
An editorial penned by the New York City-based Jewish Daily Forward offers an example. After criticizing the recent legislation, the author(s) go on to add, "It may be that when the Israeli Supreme Court hears the inevitable legal challenge to the anti-boycott law, it will rule it unconstitutional and prove, again, that a democratic system of checks and balances exist in the Israel polity."
In reality, the "system of checks and balances" has been broken for some time, with the state consistently ignoring Supreme Court rulings that are not to its liking.
What Israeli Democracy?
Having it both ways
Which would be fair enough except for that business of calling itself a "Parliamentary" coalition. And what was that but an attempt to invoke the moral authority invested in the group's members by virtue of their election to represent us? And should I mention that they used government facilities for their meetings and hearings? They certainly seem to have gone out of their way to use their status as MPs to lend credibility to a project that had no formal sanction by parliament — and thus no accountability to it.
And now we learn, courtesy of John Geddes at Maclean's, that a big chunk of their operating capital came from the government with which they supposedly had no affiliation. Bear in mind that Jason Kenney is an ex officio member of the coalition and part of its steering committee while you ponder the fact that it received $451,280 in funds from Kenney's Department of Citizen and Immigration. I'd be curious to know how that's justified on the books since this had little to do with either citizenship or immigration....
Pretty sweet deal, I'd say. Use the trappings of elected office to give your own project prestige and the taxpayer's money to supply the bulk of the funding, but remain in a position to be able to blow off those who don't agree with you and guarantee anonymity to the donors of an additional $127,078 — yes, the promise to reveal funding sources was dropped somewhere along the way.
All the advantages of being affiliated with government and none of the accountability.
Well a usually pro-Conservative Maclean's makes a revelation that is somewhat damaging but it is made during late July as opposed to early June or early September when a lot more people might be paying attention.
Once again, the mainstream media bleeds damaging information at a low ebb of news consumption.
...
And now we learn, courtesy of John Geddes at Maclean's, that a big chunk of their operating capital came from the government with which they supposedly had no affiliation. Bear in mind that Jason Kenney is an ex officio member of the coalition and part of its steering committee while you ponder the fact that it received $451,280 in funds from Kenney's Department of Citizen and Immigration. I'd be curious to know how that's justified on the books since this had little to do with either citizenship or immigration....
New Moves To Curb Criticism Of Israel in US and Canada - by Kristin Szremski
http://electronicintifada.net/content/new-moves-curb-criticism-israel-us...
"A number of new initiatives to curtail freedom of speech by conflating opposition to Israeli crimes with anti-Semitism are underway in the United States and Canada..
...In other words, since Israel bills itself as a Jewish state, of which all Jews everywhere are automatic citizens, Jewish students can file complaints of anti-Semitism and discrimination based upon their perceived ethnicity and citizenship or residing in a country that has a 'dominant' religion."
Yet the JDL-EDL Zio-Nazi alliance, a blatantly terrorist formation, can spew their poison freely...
So how do we fight back?
Do we repeatedly (aka stay on message) point out the EDL/JDL connection?
Do we repeatedly point to the various anti-semites who populate the Christian Zionist movement?
Do we repeatedly point out that Zionism never actually fought for the victims of the Holocaust?
ie http://www.peacealliancewinnipeg.ca/2011/07/israel-and-palestine-whats-going-on-and-what-can-we-do/comment-page-1/#comment-937
New Moves To Curb Criticism Of Israel in US and Canada - by Kristin Szremski
http://electronicintifada.net/content/new-moves-curb-criticism-israel-us...
"A number of new initiatives to curtail freedom of speech by conflating opposition to Israeli crimes with anti-Semitism are underway in the United States and Canada..
...In other words, since Israel bills itself as a Jewish state, of which all Jews everywhere are automatic citizens, Jewish students can file complaints of anti-Semitism and discrimination based upon their perceived ethnicity and citizenship or residing in a country that has a 'dominant' religion."
Yet the JDL-EDL Zio-Nazi alliance, a blatantly terrorist formation, can spew their poison freely...
Probably lots of things including all of the above - the JDL demo against Muslim students of the TDSB only had a couple of counter-protesters - surely a fucking disgrace in a city as large as TO. Geert Wilders appearance here with the JDL as official security wasn't a whole lot better. As well change the Islamophobic effects of the mainstream politics -protest western wars against Muslim lands or restrain your NDP 'official opposition' from publicly supporting Israel, of which the JDL is a creature, when they align with Israeli attempts to destroy humanitarian initiatives such as BDS or the Gaza boat to interfere with the ongoing genocide of Palestinians. As always most Canadians haven't the foggiest notion that the JDL even exists here and if they do, well cue 'Exodus'...These people don't help things much either.
"this is a lesson to all of us who believe in human dignity that we should rock the boat when we see injustice, when we see xenophobia, when we see racism. I love the moxy and the scrappiness of the Wiesenthal Center being willing to do that..." Jason Kenney
http://mostlywater.org/jason_kenneys_hero
http://www.friendsofsimonwiesenthalcenter.com/downloads/Pipes_invite_web...
http://mostlywater.org/jason_kenneys_hero
This is fucking outrageous.
Now we have Cabinet ministers whose heroes are pro-Nazi war criminals!
...glad I'm not the only one that thimks so...and an official opposition that supports Zionist ones!
speaking of Tory cabinet ministers and their curious 'friends' - more here:
http://rabble.ca/comment/1210665
and more on Jason Kenney's hero Stepinac: 'one of the heros of the twentieth century'
http://libcom.org/library/role-catholic-church-yugoslavias-holocaust-se-...
A collaborator of course would like another fascist collaborator. This Catholic asshole of course has been "Blessed" by the current Nazi loving Dobbie Pope.
no wonder Kenney prays to him. Stepinac was declared a martyr by John Paul II in 1998. The awful crimes of the Croatian Ustase, in which he played a part were declared by the Vatican to be simply the 'teething troubles of a new regime'. I would have thought that Kenney's outrageous brownnosing to the Zios might conflict with his hero worship of a Jew murderering Nazi, but then there's the JDL-EDL Zio-Nazi alliance, so I guess my thinking is behind the times and that was then and this is now. Get my drift? [which ends now]
CBC Apology To JDL (youtube)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5gT3qpQNxo
apparently a CBC slaphead doing bg on the Breivik terror network mistakenly called them a banned terrorist organization in Canada. They should be, but arent. Talk of a lawsuit which the JDL would probably win is in the air and the JDL has already scheduled a fund-raiser.
So was the commentator American? The JDL in Canada has not been named a terrorist group but the JDL in America is on its list of terrorist organizations.
Does anyone know of any other group that has made in on the US list but not been named in Canada?
Maybe there should be a counter campaign to put it on the terror list (yes I know unlikely but to prove a point) and mention not only JDL's links to EDL but its connections to Kach.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/pg-jdl.html
or its actual past behavior
CBC Apology To JDL (youtube)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5gT3qpQNxo
apparently a CBC slaphead doing bg on the Breivik terror network mistakenly called them a banned terrorist organization in Canada. They should be, but arent. Talk of a lawsuit which the JDL would probably win is in the air and the JDL has already scheduled a fund-raiser.
John Baird kicks Palestinian envoy out of Ottawa after she recommends a YouTube video that carries an anti-Zionist message.
Gee - that's a nice gift to John Baird. Didn't she read the English subtitles before promoting the video? When dealing with scum like Harper and Baird, one ought to exhibit at least a modicum of vigilance and self-preservation.
I have searched YouTube in vain for the particular version of the video that is referred to in the Globe article. Of course, the Globe would never give us a link to the video so we could see it for ourselves.
There are dozens of copies of the video on YouTube, most of them with Turkish or Arabic subtitles, but there are at least a couple of them with English subtitles. Here is one of them.
These threads would be incomplete without a reference to the stooges who call themselves by the hilariously and unintentionally ironic name of "HonestReporting".
They have lately been attacking mainstream Canadian media journalists over perceived bias against Israel. You really have to read their tortured logic to believe it.
I won't link directly to their website, because I don't want to improve their Google ranking. But the CJPME has been keeping track of some of their more egregious attempts to silence anything less than adulation in the MSM for the Zionist project. You can follow their links to the pro-Zionist nonsense.
Ridiculous - there's nothing more lapdog-servile than Canadian MSM on Israel!
Last week, Palestine House was informed by the Department of Citizenship and Immigration, including its minister, Jason Kenney, that all funding for Palestine House's immigration settlement program had been cut.
Before Kenney's announcement, department officials had praised Palestine House, a Palestinian cultural and educational organization based in Mississauga, for its highly successful settlement program.
Canadian Boat to Gaza
Hitman Jason Kenney Strikes Again
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/article/1132117--hitman-jason-kenney-agai...
That the Canadian government is proclaimed 'Israel's best friend' and that Israel's Avi Lieberman can come here to state that all parties are in complete agreement with the Zionist entity's malevolent racist, apartheid policies, should be a matter of great concern to all Canadians. George Galloway is hardly overstating the fact when he refers to this country as little more than 'an embassy for Benjamin Netanyahu'. The mean-spirited targeting of Palestine House and our Arab community is merely the latest sorry chapter of an ongoing Islamaphobic war at home and abroad. The willful indifference to this by most of the citizenry must be replaced by an energetic active intervention to make it stop.
From the NDP web site:
Defunding Palestine House hurts new Canadians
“Palestine House settlement services have been funded continuously by Citizenship and Immigration Canada for over eighteen years. They have helped thousands of New Canadians in the Mississauga community with programs to help with language training and skills development. Importantly, these clients come from all corners of the world, from all faiths and backgrounds.
“Given the high quality and success of its programming, it’s clear the Minister cancelled this funding for political reasons, all of which have turned out to be spurious. And it’s the communities that rely on these services that are hurt most by this kind of interference. The Minister must stop playing politics and reverse his decision.
“This is the just the latest in a long line of politically-motivated funding cuts to public service organizations. From Palestine House to ecumenical KAIROS, this government’s unbalanced approach to the Middle East is hurting Canada’s reputation and isolating us on the world stage.”
Next weekend a student-organized conference at Harvard University will explore the pros and cons of a one-state solution in Israel/Palestine.
The Zionists are having a shit-fit over it and trying to have the university shut it down.
Organizers have responded with an Open Letter to the presidents of Harvard and the Harvard Kennedy School, who have both gone to extreme lengths to disassociate the university from the conference and to express their disapproval of what they assume will be said by the speakers. An excerpt from the Open Letter:
The aim of this conference is to explore the possibility of different solutions to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Invoking inflammatory language like “anti-semitism” and “destruction of Israel” to describe the ideas and speakers of the conference is not only incorrect and defamatory but serves to prevent rational discussion of ideas and preempt the effective exercise of speech.
Reminds me of this home-grown scandal - only in our case, the attempt to sabotage the conference came from Harper's cabinet:
CAUT calls for Minister Goodyear’s resignation over political interference and attack on academic freedom
You're right. I thought of that one too.
I think it's been mentioned in these threads already, but that's the episode that is the subject of Jon Thompson's book No Debate.
The arbiter of pro-Israel political correctness in the U.S. is pissed (for a change):
Harvard University professor Alan Dershowitz alleged Friday that Media Matters has "crossed the line into anti-semitism" by tolerating an employee who uses charged language to criticize supporters of Israel.
. . . .
The professor directed his complaints at one staffer in particular, M.J. Rosenberg, for downplaying the Iranian nuclear threat and repeatedly employing the term "Israel firster" -- an epithet that implies somebody's loyalties are to Israel before America.
"When you accuse Jews of dual loyalty, you invoke a canard that goes back hundreds of years and falls into the category of anti-semitism," Dershowitz said. "To the extent that Media Matters hired him to do that and is tolerating him, they have crossed the line into anti-semitism."
Dershowitz called on Media Matters to fire Rosenberg, but also called on the White House to disassociate itself from Media Matters -- warning that their cozy relationship would cause problems in the 2012 reelection campaign.
"The president should do to Media Matters what he did to Jeremiah Wright -- totally disassociate, rebuke and say 'I stand with Israel,'" he said.
. . . .
Dershowitz, though, argued that Israel's and America's interests are aligned, and said Rosenberg was effectively accusing people like him of "treason."
"It's the oldest of charges ... accusing Jews of dual loyalty, and it can't be tolerated, whether it comes from the left or the right," he said. "The tent is not big enough to include people who have engaged in bigotry against the Jewish people."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/02/harvard-prof-dershowitz-says-media-matters-has-crossed-line-into-anti-semitism/#ixzz1nyXsn2fh
Dershowitz is, of course, one of the loudest voices trying to shut down the "One-State" conference at Harvard this weekend.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/03/why-israeli-pub...
Israeli public opposed to attack on Iran
Cotler Rejects 'Israeli Apartheid' in South Africa
http://www.cjnews.com/node/89465
"As activists on campuses around the world demonize Israel as an 'apartheid state', Liberal MP Irwin Cotler made the case for Israel as a bastion of human rights in the very place apartheid was practised - South Africa.."
Canadian tax dollars hard at work - spreading Zionist propaganda far and wide.
Radio talk show host Michael Harris fired by Bell Media
Was Harris' most recent firing a result of pressure from CIJA? We will probably never know but when a child is beaten in the schoolyard it is only normal to suspect the school bully.
A whole website devoted to the topic of this thread: Muzzlewatch
CIJA's been busy. Here's another of their little projects:
CIJA Setting Up A Community Security Network
http://www.cjnews.com/canada/cija-setting-community-security-force
"..The initiative is called the 'Community Security Network' and is touted as being similar to a Neighbourhood Watch program, only on a national scale. Doron Horowitz, CIJA's Director of National Security Infrastructure and head of the new initiative, told the CJN that the project aims to have the Canadian Jewish community take more responsibility for its own security and project the image that it's looking out for itself.
'We will be less reliant on external security resources and will...complement law enforcement,' he said. This is the Jewish community taking 'an active role in its own security on a civilian level.' Horowitz will begin training 25 volunteers in Toronto starting next month before eventually recruiting members in Ottawa, Hamilton, Winnipeg, Regina, Calgary and Vancouver, although not necessarily in that order.
Horowitz, a security specialist and a decorated ex-Israel Defence Forces officer, with specialized training in counter-terrorism - said he hopes to bring in local police to speak to the volunteers to help them understand their role and limitations..."
WTF? I'm sure JDL-Canada and their Kahanist, Kachist, fearless leader Meir is already drawing up a list of likely prospects...
UN Body 'Appalled' By Israel's Racial Segregation Policies (Apartheid)
http://electronicintifada.net/content/un-body-appalled-israels-racial-se...
"An advance version of the CERD Report indicates that racial prejudice can be found in almost every facet of Israeli life.."
Eretz Nehederet - A Documentary on Israeli Dissent (and vid)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcOOiV7p4Xg&feature=player_embedded#!
Anti-Zionism in Israel
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