Palin: Running in 2012 up to God
November 11, 2008 - 3:47pm
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin says she wouldn't hesitate to run for the
presidency in four years if it's God's will, even though she never
thought Campaign 2008 would be “as brutal a ride as it turned out to
be.”
Maybe I just don't get this, but does anyone anywhere think Palin is anywhere close to being smart enough or qualified enough to be President? Are people actually taking her seriously?
You Betchya!
She's smart enough and qualified enough to be the Republican nominee...president is the wrong metric.
Palin/Plumber 2012
God's will? The Republicans that would seriously consider nominating her are closer to the Antichrist, if you ask me. And I'm an atheist...
How does Palin foresee that she will receive this heavenly message?
Yes of course, I should have realised. I'm sure Charles McVety and his friends would be more than willing to assist in this matter... He must have been crapping himself with excitement over her nomination for VP.
Words of knowing from Palin.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/10/palin-defends-herself-in-f...
And the rebuttal comes from FDL
How would Sarah feel if someone called her an ignorant, freeloading bubble headed piece of trailer park trash whose daddy told the AP she spent the weekend scrambling to return her stolen clothes to the RNC?
Just trying to keep a sense of perspective here.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/11/uh-sarahyou-sure-you-want-to-go-there/
h/t BnR
Palin is an embarrassment to morons.
I think the true significance of all this may be a bit deeper. There's no question that she will not be running for President as a Republican. But, she might run as the candidate of a break away faction of the Republicans. As far back as the Clinton administration there were Repubicans who would like to have seen the religious right leave the party, and there are religious right Republicans who wouldn't have minded a split.
Palin gives them someone to rally around.
Go Sarah.
I think the true significance of all this may be a bit deeper. There's no question that she will not be running for President as a Republican. But, she might run as the candidate of a break away faction of the Republicans. As far back as the Clinton administration there were Repubicans who would like to have seen the religious right leave the party, and there are religious right Republicans who wouldn't have minded a split.
Palin gives them someone to rally around.
Go Sarah.
And they are already rallying, 'Sarah 2012 we support you' is all over the blogoshere and.... oh wait.....silly bloggers, what do they know or do except sit in their parents basement and talkin' garbage.....
So... do we want Palin to grab the Republican nomination in 2012... or not?
*snerk* she won't her 15 mins is almost up.
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I agree completely. Except for the bunch of idiots who have rallied round her like she's some sort of hero, most of America will likely have forgotten her by 2012. Her appeal seems to be based on an odd combination of old-fashioned "family values" and a 1950s type of retro-sexuality. She offers no exceptional political abilities, and indeed seems lacking in knowledge in many crucial areas.
The people that are her supporters are enamoured with her for reasons that have nothing to do with her abilities. Then again, they're the same asses that voted for Bush... But seriously, I think a lot of her appeal has to do with her "traditional woman" image. I would only hope that if she actually ran for president, the majority of voters would see that she's sorely lacking in any area that really matters.
People have been critical about Obama's cult-like appeal...at least he has something to back it up with when the hype fades. But Palin is nothing when you remove the image the American media have created.
I'm sure if enough supporters and money materialize to make it worth her while, God will reveal his intentions in due course. Whether that will be enough to carry her past the primaries as the nominee remains to be seen down the road. Paul Begula mentioned on CNN today that he'd pay for her candidacy fee himself, which might indicate that the Dems would be first in line to ante up on her behalf.
Funny how god and money go hand in hand in America, isn't it? (I'm thinking of the money-hungry televangelists i've seen...they're usually good for a laugh, if nothing else.)
His blessings on the faithful are truly bountiful and wonderous.
Yes, because goodness me, if Benny Hinn didn't have 17 cars and 3 mansions, my poor pagan soul would have been banished to the depths of Hades forever...
If she's looking for my input, she'll have to speak a little more clearly.
OMG, God that is good for a morning laugh, thanks!
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...and like that.
Okay so if God will tell her to run for President does that mean he really, really wanted Barrack Obama to be President and Joe Biden to be Vice President and all those speeches she gave were sinful for going against God's will since the margin of win was pretty big?
Or is it just that God thought she was spectacularly unqualified too?
Well, you see all this comes from Biblical quotes that state that a government, is Gods' choice/will like Romans 13 1-7, Matthew 22:21 and some others interspursed throughout.
So one could say God wanted Obama more than Palin.
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Interesting results for an interal Repub poll, post 2008 election. Palin is well back from Huckabee and Romney in all demographics even the fundamentalists.
http://mclaughlinonline.com/lead.html
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Someone should tell her God likes literacy and learning. As here are the latest words, of non-wisdom by Palin, regarding Obama's use of *gasp* sentences, when he speaks..
"The president-elect's stubborn insistence on using complete sentences has already attracted a rebuke from one of his harshest critics, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska."
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Uh, I'm not sure she actually said that. :) Pretty sure that article was poltical sattire and a likely a made up piece of Palin speak. It's pretty good though and quite believable.
Hmmm, really?
I failed to see he was a comedic writer, until I just looked now...wait I just googled it and apparently I was not alone in believing she said that, though maybe perhaps she did??? ;)
Anyhow there is a new ethics complaint against her.
On last night’s ON THE RECORD, we told you about the ethics complaint filed against Gov. Palin and how we (and other media organizations who interviewed her last week) are tied to it.
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I know I googled it before I commented to see if it was an actual comment and it looks like that part of the original article is flying through the infosphere with some people laughing at it as satire and some taking it as a serious comment...and laughing at it and on one right wing blog...anger at the liberals who are trying to destroy here. Can't tell if that person thinks its a real comment or not. Don't think it matters to them if it is. So yeah maybe it is or maybe it isn't. LoL. Even that makes it funny. Maybe it will make it onto Snopes eventually. :)
I can't watch the video. Is the complaint the one alleging she improperly used the governors office for post election interviews?
LOL, I was hoping you could watch it, I have dial up. But yes, I think so.
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Uhh...chock this one up for the you just can't make this sh*t up if you tried file. *warning-this video is not for the squeamish, or vegetarians*
Palin pardons a turkey while failing to notice what is going on behind her...
People of course are crying foul that this is just another set-up by the liberal media but apparently she said lets do the interview here, was asked by the reporter if she was sure and she said yes here is fine.
eta: For those on dial-up. She is doing a press conference while a guy in the background is killing turkeys. About 10 feet behind. Whats so totally surreal about it, beyond the fact that she seems oblivious to it is that her words and the reporters questions are countered by the background action in a total ironic sense. It actually reminds me of a Monty Python sketch. But it's real!!
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
I especially liked when the reporter asked
"what was on the chopping block?" Re: Govm't spending!
Tina Fey just HAS to do one more SNL apperance. No satire needed, Palin writes her own comedy sketches!
If you are unable to exchange your happiness for the suffering of other beings you have no hope of attaining happiness in this present life - Dalai Lama
Oh but I forgot you said killing turkey's is " fun ", right Sarah ( talking about participating in the killing of the turkey's - "at least this one's fun !" ). She didn't look happy on election night, though.
Thanks for the brief Eliza, but wone wonders wth she was doing at a place where they were killing turkeys? Was she going to sacrifices to her God? ;)
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:) She was there to pardon a turkey. Apparently they did the official pardoning fluff news op inside somewhere and then stepped out to do the press conference.
So really to me it makes the whole thing even more surreal. Goes from happy times look Mr. Turkey, you get saved to...well...turkey carnage with blood dripping into the trough and everything...right behind this happy joy joy press conference. It's just plain weird and bizzare.
Some are speculating that she did it on purpose, in order to create buzz or something or to promote her 'maverick' tough, 'frontier woman' image. I really have no clue. Either way, on purpose or due to just sheer being oblivious it's pretty much a 'what the hell are you thinking?' sort of thing.
I like this blogs take on it,
Gov. Sarah Palin's turkey-pardoning photo op was not the kind you'd see at the White House, to say the least. Here in Washington, the idea of these annual events is to leave everyone feeling warm and fuzzy.
But we're talking Alaska here. And we're talking Palin, so you expect things to be a little different.
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This photo op is so bizarre it makes you wonder if it's a hoax, if two videos were actually edited together.
How any politician's staff would allow their boss to do an "availability" against a backdrop of turkeys shuddering as their necks are snapped is really about as mind-boggling as it gets.
There's something to be said for keeping it real, for showing people the way turkeys get to Thanksgiving tables.
But politicians' availabilities are meant for getting their message out. It's hard to do that when people are distracted by turkeys doing death kicks in the background.
Oh and the other speculation I just read is that MSNBC is evil and they're so scared of her that they must have set it all up and paid the guy in the background to step in when the interview started in order to make Palin look bad.
Wow, and wow again, whacked outness at its finest. But really, not so much on second thought, as she believes in hunting from helicopters, which is like next to pit lamping in my opinion, or perhaps even worse, as helicopters run the herds/packs down.
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Interesting results for an interal Repub poll, post 2008 election. Palin is well back from Huckabee and Romney in all demographics even the fundamentalists.
Yeah, I figure that unless Obama is able to bring about an absolutely miraculous turnaround for the US, Huckabee will be the next US President - a real life Nehemiah Scudder, if you will.
Palin is an embarrassment to morons.
Fast forward to November 1980. Reagan won by a smashing margin after Carter's four years of auditioning for the gong show, which he didn't even quite make. My stepfather joked that "now we have an actor for President and a basketball player for Senator (referring to Bill Bradley of New Jersey).
The laughter didn't last long. People still laughed at the "Evil Empire" speech, and some even thought "Tear Down the Wall" was funny if no quixotic and out of touch. The last laugh was on the so-called "progressive" forces when Reagan succeeded in:
Somehow, come January 20, 2013 I don't think anyone here will be laughing at Palin's Inauguration Speech. Yes, our first female President won't be a "progressive" (though I admit her views on many subjects make me cringe).
LMAOoooooooo, JB you out from the slums for a visit? Too bad you could not get your facts straight on how Reagan did not destroy the Soviet Union, and took a "real" look at where Reaganomics have brought the USA, in just 20 short years almost total destruction. You can dream though I suppose.
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The head Reaganaut summing up the crisis of capitalism of today to a tee.
Excellent quote fidel, he sold em all a phoney bill of goods that they, and indeed some Canadians, bought into, and look at what we have today. Unmitigated disaaster, and people whining about the low price of oil, because assumedly they bought into the nonsense of "we can all be capitalists" and have lost their money through playing the stock market, instead prudently putting it into savings, or tangible assets.
Of course the elephant in the room is some people allowing themselves to believe in credit, instead of fighting for a livable wage and job sustainability. Everyone was going to have the lifestyles of the rich and famous, ya know. Instead we have the rich getting even richer and the poor, aka middle classes and lower getting poorer.
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You mean JB's comments weren't satire?
Oh...well anyways here's a couple of linkys that pretty much put the kybosh on those, quite typical Reagan myths.
The Real Reagan Legacy
The Ronald Reagan Myth
There's many more if there's still any questions. There's even books with footnotes and references and everything!
Here's my take though
Ending the Soviet Union;
Well if that pardoned Alaskan turkey was elected Prez the Soviet Union would still have fallen, and it wouldn't have even needed to be able to see Russia from Washington either. If fact if you take a real hard look at history the Soviet Union ended up falling despite some of the idiotic things that Reagan tried to do. Reagan actually came close to screwing up the inevitable and causing an unnessary war.
Tearing down the wall
Well I will admit that Reagan was a mans man if there ever was one. I did enjoy the video of him with sledgehammer in hand all sweaty, leading the crowds.... Oh? That wasn't Reagan? Well anyways, see above comment re. the Soviet Union, pretty much inevitable.... funny how when you actually look at facts and events, that they are actually connected. It boggles I know. Historians are troubled by this everyday.
I will give Reagan credit though, his advisors perfectly timed that famous speech. At least they had the smarts to recognize what was going to happen anyways and take political advatage of it.
Ending the Cold War on terms favorable to the U.S.
Well jeez, a superpower collapses, things go into the shitter, disarray and craziness. Must have been really difficult for the admin to get those terms in a situation like that. Took some brilliance on their part.
Reforming the tax code's punitive effect on production and work.
*scratches head* Okay, I think that a few words were lost in cyberspace as that statement whisked it way from keyboard to my screen. It should read.
Reagan, or better stated, his economic advisors, thought that the tax code was punitive and thought that by reforming the tax codes their pervcieved punitive effect on production and work would go away.
Problem was, and heck I know, those damn facts and all, it didn't work. Now I could write a novel and lay out why, dissect all the voodoo, why they were just wrong begin with and talk about what really happened but sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words.
Hmm.... yep. It worked!
As a couple of esteemed posters above, also alluded to there is actually a direct connection to Reagan's advisors economic doctrine with the fine state of affairs today. Durn that boggling history connection thing again! It makes it really easy to actually see it now though, because so much of what the Reaganomics poo pooers said and their predictions of where it would lead to is actually becoming reality. So there's like real life facts and everything. Plus now we have the intertubes now and everyone and their mother (and fathers) are writing and anaylizing it and durn it if they aren't actually looking at history and seeing how one thing, led to another and another, so on and so on and forthwith, Amen.
! I know I'm just tickled pink that it's now possible for many of those poo pooers to say, "Geez Louise...told yah so." I'm sure all the people who have lost or are going to lose their jobs, houses and, all of those people who...aw crap lets just be out with it, the whole durn world as it goes into the ecomonic crapper, is oodles happy that Project Voodoo has been such a fantabulous failure and can run around going, "Told yah so, told yah so..." It feels so durn nifty.
Anyhoo, I have to give a shout out to my cat, who decided to go into heat at about 4:30 am (she just couldn't wait a few more days until her vet appointment to get fixed
) for waking me up and giving me ample time in these wee morning hours to contemplate all that is Reagan. I'm a better person for it.
Yes, we know that someone with the initials "jbg", working from a Kinkos copy centre somewhere, has a warped idea of the meaning of the Reagan era and its impact on us.
It's because he, like the great unwashed of America, have bought into the ideas promulgated by the owners of the U.S. media (and the Aspers of Canada and the Blacks before them).
And, yes, we all depend on the market for our golden years' pensions (which look less than golden at the moment), and its why conservatism looked so good to so many - right up until now.
But poor old Sven does not understand the depth of ignorance in the land of the free (see Susan Jacoby and Al Gore's The Assault on Reason and, blush, Joe Bageant). The great unread will continue to wonder what is happening as Palin goes on killing turkeys and the redneck community grows more alienated and looks around more desperately in their increasing poverty and ignorance for der leader.
Maybe Obama can break the grip of right-wing religiious and political propaganda with an FDR-like fireside chat.
And I certainly hope that the Svens can begin to empathize with the folks in the hills enough to understand where they are coming from and the danger they represent to his oh-so-rational world.
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God help us! I hope He gives Palin a sign and she runs. We will very likely be spared another Republican atrocity.
Can anyone think of any other country in the world who would voluntarily vote for/elect a Bush or Palin?
An "intelligence" commission needs to be set up!!
LMAOoooooooo, JB you out from the slums for a visit? Too bad you could not get your facts straight on how Reagan did not destroy the Soviet Union, and took a "real" look at where Reaganomics have brought the USA, in just 20 short years almost total destruction. You can dream though I suppose.
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Palin is a sick nut case, a disgrace, and out to lunch. She'll have zero influence by 2013 and most people won't remember that her sorry mug was on TV.
Tina Fay (sp) of Saturday Night Live would be a better President.
I want it for the entertainment value but I'm not sure that I'd want to risk her winning.
Wow, jbg, that is an about face.
I don't think Palin is at all stupid. She made it to the Governorship and managed to raise her profile immensely. She is engaging with the world business community and has a touch of talent for self-presentation for the media. She knows her strengths and how to play them. She was stuck in a rut last time, because she was going for a position where she had 0 strength. She KNEW nothing of international policy, she knew very little about the system of the United States as a whole. What she knew was folksy rhetoric to win over her base - she did that. What she knows is how to hitch herself to a power structure to gain an advantage. What she knows is to be merciless in pursuing her goals. She's not over. She would cause a split in the Republican Party, tear it to shreds, fracture her base, and still continue her run before she is over.
We all like to laugh at her for being a dunderhead, for being an awful image of what a politician should be. But she is a consummate politician. She uses power to her advantage to sideline and weaken her opponents. I'd be afraid for her run on an inevitable populist platform in 2012 if the Democrats really make a big blunder or a big "national security" issue is poorly dealt with.
http://atimes.com/atimes/China/KI29Ad01.html
By Kent Ewing
HONG KONG - Months after disappearing from public view following her resignation as governor of Alaska, former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin planned to re-emerge as a political force last week with her highly publicized appearance at a conference of heavy-hitting global investors held in this city.
...A New York Times reporter quoted extensively an African-American marketing consultant who works in Asia and attended the speech. A supporter of President Barack Obama, Mel Goode told the The Times that Palin was "articulate and she held her own. I give her credit. They've tried to categorize her as not being very bright. She's bright."
Interestingly, Goode was also quoted in a local English-language newspaper, the South China Morning Post, as saying of Palin, "Well, she delivered well - but then so does Pizza Hut."
Hee hee!