The Real Reason General Flynn Was Forced to Resign

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The Real Reason General Flynn Was Forced to Resign

The Real Reason General Flynn Was Forced to Resign

http://www.anonews.co/general-flynn-resign/

"In reality, Flynn’s conversation with Kislyak was merely the excuse that establishment neo-cons and neo-libs from both parties were desperately searching for. They wanted him gone from the very beginning. This was a deep state coup".

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Flynn is an InfoWars conspiracy theorist and believed that Islam and Christianity are at war. He's as big of a clown as his former boss. Good riddance,asshole.

6079_Smith_W

Because he lied. Or because he decided to take the fall.

josh

Deep state coup?  Is that like deep dish pie?

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alan smithee wrote:

Flynn is an InfoWars conspiracy theorist and believed that Islam and Christianity are at war. He's as big of a clown as his former boss. Good riddance,asshole.

All very true however I think the Anonymous article points out some very good points about who and why.

Webgear

josh wrote:

Deep state coup?  Is that like deep dish pie?

This is a new catch phrase, sort of like “coloured revolutions”.

 My understanding the phrase is to cover “the unnamed and unseen public government employees that saves the state from collapsing.”

 

bekayne

josh wrote:

Deep state coup?  Is that like deep dish pie?

#pizzagate

 

bekayne

alan smithee wrote:

Flynn is an InfoWars conspiracy theorist and believed that Islam and Christianity are at war. He's as big of a clown as his former boss. Good riddance,asshole.

And lusted for war with Iran.

6079_Smith_W

bekayne wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

Flynn is an InfoWars conspiracy theorist and believed that Islam and Christianity are at war. He's as big of a clown as his former boss. Good riddance,asshole.

And lusted for war with Iran.

Yup. all the more reason (as some articles have speculated) why it doesn't make sense that he'd do this on his own. So who do you think told him to?

 

voice of the damned

Webgear wrote:

josh wrote:

Deep state coup?  Is that like deep dish pie?

This is a new catch phrase, sort of like “coloured revolutions”.

 My understanding the phrase is to cover “the unnamed and unseen public government employees that saves the state from collapsing.”

 

Except that as originally used by a certain type of left-winger, it seemed to mean anything the state does in secret, especially if it somehow involves subterfuge or crime. As such, it's been used to include things like the Bay Of Pigs, even though that wasn't preventing the American state from collapsing. (It failed, but the state is still there.)

The past few days, I've seen it used in a more complimentary sense, but with the meaning that you ascribe to it, something like "The permanent members of the bureaucracy who resist illegitmate pressure from interloping elected officials." Which I suppose might verge on subterfuge, though as I say, the intended meaning really does seem to be more positve. We're supposed to be glad that the CIA is refusing to share intel with Trump, for example.   

The place I remember seeing this complimentary usage was Slate.com, whose writers sometimes tend toward the slapdash. So they might not have been aware of its previous negative connotations.

wage zombie

josh wrote:

Deep state coup?  Is that like deep dish pie?

Webgear wrote:

This is a new catch phrase, sort of like “coloured revolutions”.

My understanding the phrase is to cover “the unnamed and unseen public government employees that saves the state from collapsing.”

voice of the damned wrote:

Except that as originally used by a certain type of left-winger, it seemed to mean anything the state does in secret, especially if it somehow involves subterfuge or crime. As such, it's been used to include things like the Bay Of Pigs, even though that wasn't preventing the American state from collapsing. (It failed, but the state is still there.)

The past few days, I've seen it used in a more complimentary sense, but with the meaning that you ascribe to it, something like "The permanent members of the bureaucracy who resist illegitmate pressure from interloping elected officials." Which I suppose might verge on subterfuge, though as I say, the intended meaning really does seem to be more positve. We're supposed to be glad that the CIA is refusing to share intel with Trump, for example.   

The place I remember seeing this complimentary usage was Slate.com, whose writers sometimes tend toward the slapdash. So they might not have been aware of its previous negative connotations.

Slate writers (or anyone else) deciding to fight for ownership of the "deep state" meme would be a very positive development, I think.  As opposed to just ceding ownership of "deep state" to the right.

quizzical

we have anonymous siding with Trump and the righteous Flynn. huh.

voice of the damned

quizzical wrote:

we have anonymous siding with Trump and the righteous Flynn. huh.

The writer talks about "globalists" being behind the supposed coup. Whatever the laudable usage that term has occassionally found on the left, it seems a little tainted to me, via its currency among the isolationist Right, monetary-reformers etc. I'm wondering what the particular slant of that Anonymous group is. My understanding is that they are not a centralized orgnaization with one coherent party line.

bekayne

voice of the damned wrote:

quizzical wrote:

we have anonymous siding with Trump and the righteous Flynn. huh.

The writer talks about "globalists" being behind the supposed coup. Whatever the laudable usage that term has occassionally found on the left, it seems a little tainted to me, via its currency among the isolationist Right, monetary-reformers etc. I'm wondering what the particular slant of that Anonymous group is. My understanding is that they are not a centralized orgnaization with one coherent party line.

They spell it (((globalists)))

josh
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Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

bekayne wrote:

They spell it (((globalists)))

For any here who haven't heard of it, the triple parentheses is a signal used by the alt-right to indicate a Jew.

Mr. Magoo
bekayne

Mr. Magoo wrote:

Seems complicated.  Even Adbusters went with a very recognizable yellow star.

A sheriff's star! 

Webgear

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/five-eyes-network-threat-1.3986265?cmp=rss

"Canadian intelligence agencies could end up feeling the pain of the bruising political fight unfolding in Washington over leaks and the alleged ties of some in the Trump administration to Russia, experts warned on Thursday."