Redesigning the Hot Dog

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Doctors are calling for makers of hot dogs to redesign the shape of the dog so it won't get stuck in people's throats.

 

See article: here

 

So what I'd like to ask you fine people of Rabble...what shape do you suggest and why??

 


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Sineed
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In my neighbourhood there's a place called "Buddha Dog" that serves locally-sourced foods and organic gourmet hot dogs, and their dogs are wee - I'd eat no less than 2, and the average guy would have at least 4.

So to reduce the choking hazard, I'd say think size not shape.


Lou Arab
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Rather than suggest a new shape, I suggest chewing.

But that's just me I suppose.


oldgoat
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I realized all of my responses are in fact obscene.  Sineed's suggestion just made things worse, so I think I'll content myself with moving this to Humanities and Science


Snert
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How about in the shape of the DVD of Goodfellas?


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Actually  the shape of frankfurters is a health problem. Though as Lou said chewing would help, but still people are known to snort and chock on their food when laughing and such, and  frankfurters are damn hard to dislodge, they are like corks in wine bottles

 

Truthfully I would like to see them be a spiral, like spiral fries, though I hate those, for several reasons.

Spiral fries why:

1. The frankfurthers would be less messy to eat, as the condiments would fit in the spirals and not squash out everywhere.

 

2. They would not fall off roasting sticks, one could actually shape them around one.

 

3. They would be more fully cooked through as the tube containing the meat would be thinner, so there is less chance for food poisoning

 

4. People who have been forced to give a man a blow job would be able to eat them and not be triggered.

 

5. People would not be chocking on them and dying.

 

Failing a sprial design, there could be  triangler ones, which would also prompt better cookability.

 

That said, I only eat tofu dogs.

 


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Quote:
Janet Riley, president of the U.S. National Hot Dog & Sausage Council, told The Associated Press she agrees with the need for education, and points out more than half the hot dogs sold in the United States have warnings to parents to cut them into small pieces.

"As a mother who has fed toddlers cylindrical foods like grapes, bananas, hot dogs and carrots, I 'redesigned' them in my kitchen by cutting them with a paring knife until my children were old enough to manage on their own," Riley says.

Smith disagreed. "Just telling people to be careful or blaming the parents is an uninformed approach."

 


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A friend of mine, now deceased I think, was a Seventh Day Adventist minister, and that church is a huge corporation running hospitals and health food stores. They sell veggie weiners - quite bland, but better than the disgusting crap sold in supermarkets.


j.m.
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It's no longer about the shape of the wiener, Doughnut. I think this is about a revolt against the U.S. hotdog & sausage council and their uninformed ways!

 

 


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Omg -- hot dog pron! How could you put that before me, Doughnut?

 

Srsly, you're talking about redesigning the sausage, a kind of ancient thing in numberless cultures, and I just don't think that's gonna fly far. The specific problem with North American frankfurters imho is their texture -- they are rubbery because they are over-processed, over-blended and over-consistent all the way through, which is why they would act as a plug in the throat no matter what shape the original was. Most sausages are mealier than franks are, and you're more likely to break them down in the chewing before you swallow. (I hope you're reading along closely here, oldgoat.)

 

People can choke on almost anything, though. We should all learn to do emergency tracheotomies. All you need is a Swiss Army knife and a ball-point pen ...

 

 


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skdadl wrote:

People can choke on almost anything, though. We should all learn to do emergency tracheotomies. All you need is a Swiss Army knife and a ball-point pen ...

 

 

I learned to do them from watching old episodes of MASH.


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Lou Arab wrote:

I learned to do them from watching old episodes of MASH.

 

Me too! The thing is, you really don't have long when someone is choking. Try Heimlich manoeuvre first, and then try fingers down the throat. But the third step is ... And I don't think there is a fourth step.


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Quote:
But the third step is ...

YIKES!

Srsly, when my kids were toddlers, I cut the weiners (tofu or meat) in half lengthwise.  Choking hazard eliminated.


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I know what they mean. I had a piece of Polish sausage lodged in my aorta the other day and had to resuscitate myself in Canadian Tire parking lot. It was quite a scene.


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I love this article. 

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"Just telling people to be careful or blaming the parents is an uninformed approach."

 

Apparently we can't just tell people to be careful. So what's the first demand? Warning labels.


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It's interesting, the picture that j.m. posted of the cut up weiners in a pot boiling.  In fact, cutting them that way does not reduce the choking hazard for children, because they're still in circles that fit in their windpipe.  You're supposed to cut them in half lengthwise for children.

It's one of the first things they teach you in ECE.

I guess the second thing they should teach you is not to feed kids that crap. :D  Seriously though - hot dogs ARE a major choking hazard, for people of all ages.  It's true that people should just chew, and people do, but people also sometimes choke on things, or things sometimes go down the wrong way, and the problem with hot dogs is, when they get caught, they're just about impossible to dislodge because they fit the windpipe perfectly.

There's nothing wrong with recognizing a design flaw and correcting it.  There are probably tons of chokings per year due to the shape of hotdogs.  And the way they are COMMONLY served and eaten, the way they're advertised to be eaten, and the way everyone has always eaten them (whole, and by taking bite-sized chunks out of them that keep them cylindrical in the mouth) is dangerous. 

So what's the problem with changing it when a problem is recognized?


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I knew that!  Always did it for my kiddies with any round food.


Sineed
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Warning labels: my favourite was on a package of rat poison.  It lists off the nasty toxic poisons it contains, and then in big type: MAY CONTAIN TRACES OF NUTS.

Or how about those packages of nuts that have the nut warning on them?  People will suffer warning label fatigue and start ignoring them altogether.

Fidel wrote:
I had a piece of Polish sausage lodged in my aorta...

Wow, Fidel!  Just...wow!


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I live by myself, and had severe choking episodes several times. What I do is run backwards at high speed into the nearest wall or door jamb and dislodge whatever is stuck in my throat.  I wonder if there is anything more effective I could try. Sometimes a glass of water does the job.


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We had a patient who had suffered a spinal cord injury and was in a wheelchair.  He also suffered from frequent choking episodes, and he told us what he did at home was to run his electric wheelchair at top speed into a wall, and get thrown against his seatbelt.  Food dislodged.


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This whole thread is way off base.

It's not about the wiener.

It's about the bun.

In Montréal, you can choose between steamé and toasté. Or have one of each.

Come on down!

 

 


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I've got a great idea. Don't eat over processed (meat or soy) zero nutrient food and don't feed it to your children. Then you will not need to concern yourself with its shape.  


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Michelle wrote:

It's interesting, the picture that j.m. posted of the cut up weiners in a pot boiling.  In fact, cutting them that way does not reduce the choking hazard for children, because they're still in circles that fit in their windpipe.  You're supposed to cut them in half lengthwise for children.

It's one of the first things they teach you in ECE.

My mistake Embarassed

For redemption (beware of his head!)


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Atticus wrote:

I've got a great idea. Don't eat over processed (meat or soy) zero nutrient food and don't feed it to your children. Then you will not need to concern yourself with its shape.  

Excellent point!

Okay, so now back in realityland, where people occasionally fall short of nutrition perfection, what do you do about a design flaw that creates a choking hazard for the millions upon millions of people who consume the product?


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Hehe are those raisin eyes?


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How about hotdog eating lessons for the wee ones?  What they learn could save their life when eating a banana, too.

"Alright, everyone, Chew-two-three-four, chew-two-three-four!  Let's get those molars doing the work!..."

To be fair, if you don't notice a groundswell of support for the idea of redesigning sausages, I have to think that there's a limit to the degree to which most people want the entire world padded for our safety.  If you have kids, or you're worried about your own ability to chew, isn't cutting the hotdog sufficient?  Other than people who decide they don't need to do that, where exactly does that plan fail??  Are people who can't take 2 seconds to slice a hotdog in half really going to choose the "safety dog" at the grocery store?  Or do we all get to eat new and improved hotdogs that are as big around as a pencil because some halfwit won't slice his own hotdog?


Sven
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Snert wrote:

To be fair, if you don't notice a groundswell of support for the idea of redesigning sausages, I have to think that there's a limit to the degree to which most people want the entire world padded for our safety.

Among the general public?  You are no doubt correct.  But, there is a significant segment of the population which believes a government-mandated "padded world" is most certainly a desirable one (unless it comes to drugs and alcohol, of course).


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I find this image VERY disturbing....

 


Maysie
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And I find this one EVEN MORE disturbing.

 


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The food item that made me more sick than anyting in my life was a sidewalk-cart bratwurst on a bun in Toronto around 1978. Just a mess of fat and salt, and it caused me stomach distress like nothing else. I've never touched bratwurst since. That was my first and only.


Polly B
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I suggest a ban on all tubular food like substances. 


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Boom Boom
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Polly B wrote:

 

 

Holy crap. Is that for real???Surprised


skdadl
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What -- no whipped cream? Hot fudge sauce? Cherries (they must be maraschino)?


Skinny Dipper
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Polly, the man lying down on the couch is too much for me under these circumstances.


Polly B
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Boom Boom wrote:

Polly B wrote:

 

 

Holy crap. Is that for real???Surprised

 

Unfortunately.  Also comes in mini heart attack size.....


Boom Boom
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Only in America. Thank God!


GOD
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You're welcome.


Sven
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Boom Boom wrote:

Only in America.

 

May I present: The Weinermobile!!!

 


Sven
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Wienermobile-Bologna.jpg


Maysie
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This is the best thread drift EVER.


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j.m.
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One of my big fears/phobias is children choking.   I once got up from a mall food court table because the couple next to us was feeding a wee child a bit of french fry, and the kid was gagging on it.   Not choking, mind you.   But I couldn't take it, I had to leave, my anxiety was that bad.

 

Needless to say, I never bought hot dogs (can't stand them anyway) for my kids.  But, my ex would, and if I was there, I'd cut them into slices resembling miniature hockey pucks, and then quarter them.


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If we love them so much and yet they must change for our safety, there will always be matching symmetrical hotdog with mustard tattoos (forgive me if I've accidentally posted a picture of any of you babble frankfurter fanatics)

 

In the meantime, don't hastily invest in that hotdog toaster you've always wanted!


Boom Boom
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Anyone remember movie theatre hot dogs??? Gaaaaahhhhhh.Frown


Tommy_Paine
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The "Discovery Chanel"  has a show called "How it's Made", or as Rebecca West calls it, "How it's Boring."   But Snarfy the Wonder Girl and I like it well enough. 

One segment covered the manufacture of hot dogs.    Now, nothing gross went into the hot dog meat; no racoon, possum, discarded P.P.C.L.I. combat boots or things even the Franklin Expedition would not have eaten, but still.  If you saw how they were made....


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j.m. wrote:

 

When people talk about "plastic consumer crap that is destroying the environment," is this kinda sorta what people have in mind?

Special Note to Maysie: Please add this item to your Christmas gift list for me (hint, hint).

 


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"plastic consumer crap that is destroying the environment" sounds like a new thread title!Laughing


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Sven wrote:

Wienermobile-Bologna.jpg

In how many ways is this awesome??

I say, babblers ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAD TRIP!!


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Polly wins with post #43.


Sven
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Last summer, the Weinermobile found itself in a bit of a pickle:

Wienermobile crash


Sineed
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Surprised  Oh no!!

At least they found service technicians whose jumpsuits colour-coordinate with the Weinermobile.  These things are important.


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Another example of Satanic 1920s sexual innuendo?

"Every night I bring her frankfurter sandwiches..."


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Chew food better.


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j.m.
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Sven wrote:

Last summer, the Weinermobile found itself in a bit of a pickle:

Wienermobile crash

Looks like it found itself in a bit of a house frame!


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j.m. wrote:

How is it possible to have 250 hot dog recipes??? Undecided


j.m.
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Boom Boom wrote:

How is it possible to have 250 hot dog recipes??? Undecided

Anything is possible. Three amazing words:

HOT DOG DAIQUIRI


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Yeah, but do you prefer yours with the dogs boiled or grilled, with mesquite, charcoal or gas, and if in margerita form, with the salt rim sea salt, kosher salt, or regular with regular pepper or a blend, and with a lemon or lime twist?

Huh?


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oldgoat wrote:
Yeah, but do you prefer yours with the dogs boiled or grilled, with mesquite, charcoal or gas, and if in margerita form, with the salt rim sea salt, kosher salt, or regular with regular pepper or a blend, and with a lemon or lime twist? Huh?

"I'll have what she's having... and don't go skimpy on the parasols."


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I was thinking about this thread again this weekend.  The world is truly bizzare when an article one might expect to see in The Onion ends up in "serious" media...

I think we should just pass laws to ban choking.


Polly B
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Exactly Sven.  In other news, doctors are also calling on Mother Nature to redesign the faulty carrots, bananas, zuchinni and baby cucumbers.  If nothing can be done about the shape, genetic modifications will have to be made to ensure that each carrot comes out of the ground with a warning label.


al-Qa'bong
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Well, they should have warnings on those big mints in the bathrooms.  I found out about that one the hard way.


j.m.
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The french fry hotdog:

And the virtually-existing Taco Hotdog from Neopets:


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I've made hot dogs using soft taco shells for years, especially the whole grain kind.


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j.m. wrote:

The french fry hotdog:

 

Best thing about that one is, if you make too many, you can dry them, mount them on pikes, and use them in medieval combat.


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I do have a motto to suggest if the "Sausage Reform" movement ever takes off:

DEFY BISMARCK!


Maysie
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lmao @ j.m. What an excellent, disturbing, frightful picture. Thanks so much for sharing!

And thanks Ken Burch for reproducing the image. Can't get enough of that image burned in my brain. Tongue out

Ken Burch wrote:
 Best thing about that one is, if you make too many, you can dry them, mount them on pikes, and use them in medieval combat.

Motto for the french fry hotdog: Whether ingested in or impaled upon: it's a killer!



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