So Bernie, how you doing?

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NorthReport

Isn't Wikileaks supposed to release another large cache of Democratic secrets soon as in today or tomorrow?

They have already tried to discredit this Sanders supporter. But she continues on. She resigned as VP I think from the DNC when she realized is was just a front for Clinton.

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard Calls for Decriminalization of Marijuana

http://mauinow.com/2017/03/21/rep-tulsi-gabbard-calls-for-decriminalizat...

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..a sort of part 2 of the previous video i posted from real news

Should Sanders Continue the Fight Outside the Democratic Party?

Draft Bernie founder Nick Brana discusses the relation of the Sanders movement to the Green Party and says the only way to inspire a similar kind of movement is by going outside of the Democratic Party

NorthReport

Bernie is the draw because of his track record not some backroom hack.

Something is better than nothing. Realistically going outside the Democrats will ensure the GOP retains control. Much, much better to do what Bernie has done, and continues to do.

You never get everything, and yes it can be discouraging, but politics is the art of compromise. Look at Ryan & Trump today. The GOP controls all the levers of government and they still can't get their healthcare legislation passed. They probably will tomorrow but it has not been easy for them to say the least. 

NorthReport

Looks like a golden opportunity here for the Democrats but will they blow it again?

Bernie Sanders has become the most popular politician in America — with no help from the inside

Democrats appear to be struggling to cope with their election loss in November, but Bernie continues to resonate

http://www.salon.com/2017/03/23/bernie-sanders-has-become-the-most-popul...

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Bernie is the draw because of his track record not some backroom hack.

Something is better than nothing. Realistically going outside the Democrats will ensure the GOP retains control. Much, much better to do what Bernie has done, and continues to do.

..it was the movements that made bernie not his track record..and his decision to run against hillary of course. same with corbyn.

..i believe capitulating to fear is what got us to this place. always the fear of the boggy man that keeps us from doing the work that needs to be done. election after election fear has been the tactic used by the democrats. time for a change because that is the only option left. 

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You never get everything, and yes it can be discouraging, but politics is the art of compromise. Look at Ryan & Trump today. The GOP controls all the levers of government and they still can't get their healthcare legislation passed. They probably will tomorrow but it has not been easy for them to say the least.

..power is the ability to buy politicians. thus power creates it's own politics.

NorthReport

Bernie did incredibly well considering he was one, an outsider, and two, the deck was stacked against him

But Bernie did as well as he did and got the publicity that he did because he was running for the Democratic nomination.

And politics is always about power. Power to bring in the legislation you believe in. But of course you never get all the power you want and that's where the compromise aspect comes into play. So you do the best you can under the circumstances in which you find yourself. 

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..power controls the majority of politicians which you don't deal with. you just move along as if this is all about compromise when the fix is in.

NorthReport

Bernie was just interviewed on MSNBC about the epic collapse of the GOP/Trump Healthcare bill and praised by comparison Canada's Health Care system several times during the discussion. Very inspirational words from Bernie. Jack Layton we miss you so much. Where is our Canadian Bernie?

josh

Nikki Ashton fancies herself as one.

Pogo

During the US election I did see a number of messages from Peter Julian pointing out his history volunteering on Sanders previous campaigns.  I imagine we will see any number of candidates claiming to be 'Bernie North'.

lagatta4

Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois also had positive things to say about Bernie at his press conference. I don't think that it pertains to a particular plank in a platform, but the kind of movement the Bernie phenomenon created, which was such a breath of fresh air in the US. 

NorthReport

Sanders to headline progressive 'People's Summit'

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/28/politics/bernie-sanders-peoples-summit/

SeekingAPolitic...

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/326820-sanders-defends-...

http://cw39.com/2017/04/01/sanders-criticizes-clinton-campaign-democrats...

Bernie lost all major battles for power in the DNC, at this point he is outside the system.  Anything he says is falling on deaf ears at the DNC.  I hope bernie does waste his next 3 years trying  to change the Democratic party by talking tough.  I personally doubt Bernies comments will help his relationship with DNC.  I am sure bernie  has lot more info then rabble posters but I question that DNC will change just because says they should.  I wonder when he will recognize that the DNC dislikes him more than they dislike Trump.

NorthReport

Democrats have a new and surprising weapon on Capitol Hill: Power

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/democrats-have-a-new-and-surpri...

SeekingAPolitic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzw3xko-7_Q

Bernie TV is kicking butt.  Never heard of this thing.  Appearently 160 million video views since the beginning of the year on his facebook page.  The Young Turks have all the interesting statics in the above video. 

lagatta4

Young Turks came on so loud that I had to turn it off - I was having a hard time diminishing the volume, and it was 4 a.m. I'll listen to it later. Thanks, sounds interesting. 

NorthReport

Sanders has the answers.

So what's the path out of the abyss for the Democratic party?

Poll: Sanders Is Most Popular Senator Among Constituents; McConnell Is Least

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/morning-consult-senator-approval-s...

lagatta4

I love the photo in that. So non "urban liberal élites". And lots of snow. 

NorthReport

It's a shame Bernie, the most popular Senator in the USA, is not in charge of the Democrats, and had he been, the results may have been different in Kansas.

 Coulda Woulda Shoulda—Democrats Miss a Huge Opportunity in Kansas

The DCCC barely lifted a finger to help James Thompson. He almost won anyway.

https://www.thenation.com/article/coulda-woulda-shouda-democrats-miss-a-...

NorthReport

So what does Bernie have to say about this?

Al Sharpton and Charles Rangel Agree: Andrew Cuomo Is the Dems’ Top Presidential Prospect for 2020

http://observer.com/2017/04/al-sharpton-charles-rangel-andrew-cuomo-2020...

NorthReport

 Democrats Shouldn’t Be Trying to Banish Tulsi Gabbard

Her skepticism about the origin of the chemical weapons attack in Syria was warranted.

https://www.thenation.com/article/democrats-shouldnt-be-trying-to-banish...

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"You can't win, Hillary. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

If, somehow, Sanders had won it all then he'd be the guy trying to backpedal, and explain to people why sometimes you have to make hard choices, and nothing's ever just black and white. 

But instead, he gets to be the political version of someone who died young, and we get to imagine any fantasy we want about "what could have been". 

Could he have defeated 100 Trumps, armed with nunchuks, using only his little finger?  OF COURSE. 

Could he have fed the whole world with a few fishes and loaves?  OF COURSE. 

Would I be typing this post while flying above the Earth in my cold-fusion jetpack if Sanders had won?  OF COURSE.

We can make any claim we want about him now.  He'll never have to prove us right.  And ergo, nobody can ever prove that he couldn't.

So, an outbreak of peace and harmony in Syria?  FOR SURE.  But it's too late now, and the U.S. has made their bed and they have to lie in it.

lagatta4

Well, one thing Sanders won't do is die young. 

Personally, I think he could have contributed to making a huge difference in terms of founding something akin to the public health systems in other developed countries, which would have been huge. 

But a late prof of mine, who really appreciated Jimmy Carter including his efforts once out of office, said that signing up for the US presidency is like joining the Mafia (prof was Sicilian); you have to take part in violent criminal actions on the international level. Because the Prez really isn't in charge there; powerful "military-industrial complex" interests are. 

josh

NorthReport wrote:

So what does Bernie have to say about this?

Al Sharpton and Charles Rangel Agree: Andrew Cuomo Is the Dems’ Top Presidential Prospect for 2020

http://observer.com/2017/04/al-sharpton-charles-rangel-andrew-cuomo-2020...

Those are probably the only three people who believe that.

NorthReport

How Donald Trump Blew Up the Virginia Governor’s Race

The Democratic primary was teed up for Ralph Northam, then he got a surprise opponent who wants to make it a referendum on the soul of the party.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/tom-perriello-ralph-north...

NorthReport

Not holding my breath, but also not necessarily a moot point either however, as maybe this will inspire the Democrats to choose a younger Bernie next time around, eh! 

 Tom Frank: Would Bernie Have Been Able to Beat Trump? Hell Yes!

https://www.thenation.com/article/tom-frank-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/

josh

NorthReport wrote:

Not holding my breath, but also not necessarily a moot point either however, as maybe this will inspire the Democrats to choose a younger Bernie next time around, eh! 

 Tom Frank: Would Bernie Have Been Able to Beat Trump? Hell Yes!

https://www.thenation.com/article/tom-frank-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/

Or Bernie himself.

Still impossible to say if he would have won.  Would have gained a lot of those Obama-Trump voters in the Midwest.  But would have lost a lot of those Romney-Clinton voters in the upscale suburbs.

NorthReport

Clinton needs to move on. 

Clinton, he added, had a combination of people involved from her time as first lady, secretary of state, senator and a 2008 Democratic presidential candidate, in addition to newcomers for 2016.

“They always have trouble kind of making those various entities kind of work and run smoothly. And I think that was a huge problem for her,” Allen said. “We detail the fact that John Podesta and Robby Mook were infighting. There was lots of infighting and, you know, one of them thought the other was passive-aggressive. The other one didn’t trust the other. And so, there’s lots of this kind of stuff. That never really seeped out.”

That is, until “Shattered” hit the shelves. “[T]he portrait of the Clinton campaign that emerges from these pages is that of a Titanic-like disaster: an epic fail made up of a series of perverse and often avoidable missteps by an out-of-touch candidate and her strife-ridden staff that turned ‘a winnable race’ into ‘another iceberg-seeking campaign ship,’” Michiko Kakutani wrote in a New York Times review.

For her part, Parnes, a senior White House correspondent at The Hill, argued that she and Allen reported in their book the story that was told to them.

“I think every presidential campaign obviously has a level of drama. This one, I think, was pretty extraordinary,” she told Hewitt. “You know, they can say what they want to say, that it wasn’t the campaign they knew, but, you know, we talked to hundreds of people. This is their story from inside the campaign. This is what they told us. You know, we weren’t talking to outsiders for this book.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/20/clinton-aides-shattered-book-de...

josh

Robby Mook was a disaster.  But the real problem was the candidate.  

NorthReport

You can only blame Assange for so much.

Authors: Hillary Clinton didn't grasp populism

 

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/04/20/clinton-couldnt-connect-wi...

josh

In an election that close, anything could have tipped the scales.  But had she run a better campaign, or better yet, had the Democrats had a different candidate, it wouldn't have been close enough for Comey and/or the Russians to make a difference.

SeekingAPolitic...

http://www.inquisitr.com/4161270/bernie-sanders-supporters-are-not-going...

Watch the video in the middle article, it is just painful to watch.   Look at the chemistry of sanders and perez, I just don't understand what bernie is try to accomplish with this tour.

NorthReport

Sounds good to moi.

Bernie Sanders is taking over the Democratic Party

 

This week, the party chair he opposed, former Labor Secretary Tom Perez, is joining with the Vermont senator on a second "come together and fight back" tour of "red" and "purple" states. It includes a stop Thursday in Grand Prairie, where Minnesota Rep. Keith Ellison, the deputy chairman and a Sanders ally, will represent Perez.

The goal, Sanders said Sunday on CNN, is to "see that the Democratic party becomes a 50-state party, a bottom up grass roots party that is prepared to stand up to the big money interests."

The tour, similar to one last month, illustrates the degree to which the party's national leadership is latching onto his economic message. Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, among others, have joined Sanders in rallies on issues from health care to immigration.

Meanwhile, in state after state, the Sanders forces are moving either to take over the existing party machinery or to set up their own state or even county organizations, Details are a bit hazy since Our Revolution was created as a non profit social welfare organization, exempt from federal disclosure rules for political action committees.

It's also been playing an active role in the post-2016 electoral landscape. The Democrat who ran an unexpectedly close race in last week's Kansas special congressional election was a Sanders backer, as is Rob Quist, seeking Montana's lone House seat May 25.

In perhaps the biggest test for Sanders' continuing clout, he is supporting Tom Perriello, the former congressman who is challenging Lt. Gov. Ralph Northam for the Democratic nomination for governor of Virginia. A Perriello victory in the June 13 primary -- and November's general election -- would be a major boost for the Sanders wing and a setback for outgoing Gov. Terry McAuliffe, one of the leaders of the party establishment that backed Clinton last year.

All of this means the political machine being created by the Independent Vermont senator (still not a registered Democrat) could become a strong underpinning if he decides, at age 78, to undertake a second presidential bid in 2020.

 

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/04/19/bernie-sanders-...

josh

SeekingAPoliticalHome wrote:

http://www.inquisitr.com/4161270/bernie-sanders-supporters-are-not-going...

Watch the video in the middle article, it is just painful to watch.   Look at the chemistry of sanders and perez, I just don't understand what bernie is try to accomplish with this tour.

They're auditioning for the latest revival of The Odd Couple.

NorthReport

Hopefully Tulsi Gabbard is involved as well

SeekingAPolitic...

Bernie does not need the dems to run 2020, the only thing the DNC actually did was sandbag the his run.  He can run as independent just like 2016 under the banner of the dems.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/20/bernie-sanders...

I just hope that the DNC estalishment breaks with bernie, come hillary supporters tell sanders what you think of him. 

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-reg-hastings-sanders-com...

Perfect.  Eject bernie please.

SeekingAPolitic...

NorthReport wrote:

Hopefully Tulsi Gabbard is involved as well

Tulsi is to busy fighting DNC trolls with are trying destroy her political base.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1oECQ6r6do

NorthReport

Never mind the fake news. Tulsi is doing fine as the thread on her run for President points out. 

SeekingAPolitic...

Fake News????-  Howard Dean -- Fromer leader of DNC is calling Tulsi what accounts to being a traitor because she questions the Syria story the media is spinning. 

I have come to the the conclusion whatever factual reporting that you don't like to hear NR you file it internally as fake news and just move on.

NorthReport

Oh yea, the DNC, that supposedly reputable organization that Tulsi Gabbard resigned from because the fix was in for Clinton. Remember Donna Brazile another prominent member  who clandestinely provided Clinton in advance with debate questions. 

 

I have to question your own credibility when you hold up the DNC as supposedly some credible organization.  

How conveniently you forget!

Donna Brazile finally admits she shared debate questions with Clinton campaign

 

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/donna-brazile-finally-admits-she-share...

An understatement if there ever was one.

Hillary Clinton and the Democrats only have themselves to blame

This is what happens when a major political party rigs the primaries to nominate their preferred candidate

 

http://observer.com/2016/11/hillary-clinton-and-the-dnc-have-only-themse...

SeekingAPoliticalHome wrote:
he DNC Have Only Themselves to Blame

Fake News????-  Howard Dean -- Fromer leader of DNC is calling Tulsi what accounts to being a traitor because she questions the Syria story the media is spinning. 

I have come to the the conclusion whatever factual reporting that you don't like to hear NR you file it internally as fake news and just move on.

Pogo

Yes I think she has problems with the establishment, but of course the establishment also has serious credibility problems with its base.  I think Howard Dean was over the top in his criticism.  Is it wrong to demand the WH back up its claims?

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Cornel West & Former Sanders Staffer on Movement to Draft Bernie for a New "People's Party" in U.S.

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NICK BRANA:
One of the reasons that we decided to do this was we looked—we’ve looked over the past few months at Bernie. Bernie is working furiously to change the Democratic Party, you know. And, unfortunately, what we’ve seen is that the Democratic Party is still losing supporters. That’s incredible. The most popular politician in the country cannot stem the tide. He compared it to the Titanic. Bernie compared it to the Titanic, a sinking ship, recently, the Democratic Party. And he’s right. And once you realize that people continue to leave the Democratic Party, you see that Bernie’s role is not necessarily as being able to bring people into the party. None of us can do that. People recognize that the party doesn’t represent them. Rather, what he’s doing is he’s slowing the dissolution of the party. 

And if Bernie were instead—the momentum is towards an independent alternative. That’s why people are leaving the Democratic Party, even with Bernie there. If Bernie were to switch sides, join—go with the populist progressive current, the party would collapse. And that is something which would allow a genuine opposition party, progressive populist party, to arise, because right now the Democratic Party is blocking something like that from emerging.

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NICK BRANA: That’s right. So, this is something that we’re trying to convince Bernie, actively, to show him now is the time to do this. Now is when—now is when people are ready, tens of millions of people, the following that you built. You can actually bring this into a new party at the time. And that’s why I’m really excited, actually, to make an announcement on Democracy Now! and to announce that Dr. West and I would like to invite Bernie Sanders to a town hall at which we can discuss this issue and other issues facing the progressive movement. I think it’s time for the progressive movement to discuss this question openly, Amy, about whether it’s time to have an independent alternative.

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..another point from the same democracy now piece. sanders needs to take more care lest he loose the support he has built. west didn't really have a answer to the question.

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AMY GOODMAN: Well, Professor West, there has been some interesting controversy. I wanted to ask you about Senator Sanders’ support of Omaha, Nebraska, mayoral candidate Heath Mello. Sanders spoke at a rally for Mello last week as part of the Democratic National Committee unity tour. While serving in the Nebraska Legislature, Heath Mello sponsored anti-choice legislation. He was endorsed by the Nebraska Right to Life group in 2010. In an article for Rewire, Imami Gandy wrote, quote, "Bernie Sanders and many of his supporters seem perfectly content to categorize reproductive rights and abortion access as a social issue—a distraction from economic justice and reforming Wall Street, which they deem the so-called real issues. And that simply doesn’t work, because reproductive justice and economic justice are inexorably intertwined," Imani Gandy wrote. Can you respond to this?

josh
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..txs josh. gonna keep digging to gain more understanding 

Omaha Mayoral Candidate Under Fire For Anti-Choice Past Vows To Protect Reproductive Rights

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PPVN, the political arm of the family-planning organization, pushed back on the claim that it gave Heath Mello a 100 percent rating. The group’s scorecard from 2011 shows Mello “voting against Planned Parenthood’s position on three votes ― all abortion related.” 

“Planned Parenthood Voters of Nebraska has never endorsed Heath Mello for public office nor has Planned Parenthood Voters of Nebraska given Heath Mello a 100% rating, as some media outlets have erroneously reported,” the group said in a statement.

“Heath Mello has introduced and supported anti-choice legislation during his time at the Nebraska Unicameral, and Planned Parenthood Voters of Nebraska strongly opposed him when he took such actions,” the statement continues. “Over the course of Heath Mello’s campaign for Omaha Mayor he has said loud and clear he supports Planned Parenthood and wants to protect the work we do. Although he has not started that conversation with us, our door is always open and we welcome the opportunity to start a productive dialogue on how Heath Mello can help us promote and protect access to women’s health care in Nebraska.” 

Mello confirmed in his statement that he is personally opposed to abortion rights in general. “While my faith guides my personal views, as Mayor I would never do anything to restrict access to reproductive health care,” he said in a statement.

It’s unclear if that distinction will help him regain the support of groups that have moved against him. It aligns with the position of some Democrats like Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who have expressed personal opposition to abortion rights but have promised not to legislate based on those views. Mello, however, has already legislated based on those views and is now pledging not to do so again.

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lagatta4 wrote:
But a late prof of mine, who really appreciated Jimmy Carter including his efforts once out of office, said that signing up for the US presidency is like joining the Mafia (prof was Sicilian); you have to take part in violent criminal actions on the international level. Because the Prez really isn't in charge there; powerful "military-industrial complex" interests are.

Just look at the unfolding political assassination of Tulsi Gabbard at the hands of her own party for advocating a non-violent resolution to the Syria crisis.

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