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MP: Iran, Russia Naval Presence in Syrian Waters: Message to USA
"A Senior Iranian lawmaker says the presence of Iranian and Russian naval forces in Syria's coastal waters is a clear warning to the US to refrain from any possible military adventurism. Hossein Ebrahimi, deputy chairman of Iran Majilis National Security and Foreign Policy committee added that in the event of a US strategic mistake in Syria, Washington may receive a crushing response from Iran, Syria and a few other countries..."
Oh yes it will: http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/02/17/china-steps-up-in-syria/
The International Committee of the Red Cross said Monday that it is trying to broker a ceasefire aimed at allowing emergency aid to reach people in the areas most affected by fighting in Syria, where thousands have died in an 11-month uprising against President Bashar al-Assad's regime.
An ICRC spokeswoman said the Geneva-based aid group has been in talks with Syrian authorities and opposition groups for some time but attempts to negotiate a ceasefire had begun only recently. She declined to specify when.
"We are currently discussing several possibilities with all those concerned, and it includes a cessation of fighting in the most affected areas," the spokeswoman, Carla Haddad, told The Associated Press.
[url=http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29395][size=16]U.S. hunter-killer drones providing air support for Al-Qa'eda terrorists marauding into Syria[/size][/url]
[quote]US military officials confirmed Saturday that US drones are flying over Syria, as fighting spreads inside the country and US officials discuss military or "humanitarian" intervention to topple Syrian President Bashar al Assad.
The drone flights, which flagrantly violate Syrian air space, include a "good number" of both military and US intelligence drones, according to US defense officials. These officials said the drones' mission is to obtain "intercepts of Syrian government and military communications in an effort to ‘make the case for a widespread international response.'"
The Israeli daily Ha'aretz also reported Saturday that Syrian forces had captured 40 Turkish intelligence operatives working with the "opposition" inside Syria. It said the Turkish operatives confessed to working with the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad to train the US-backed Free Syrian Army (FSA), and claimed that Mossad operatives were working with Al Qaeda operatives in Jordan planning operations in Syria.[/quote]
Terrorist attacks against women and children are called revolutionary.
The Case For A Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy - by Jean Bricmont
"The events in Syria, after those in Libya last year, are accompanied by calls for a military intervention, in order to 'protect civilians,' claiming, that it is our right or our duty to do so. And, just as last year, some of the loudest voices in favor of intervention are heard on the left or among the Greens, who have totally swallowed the concept of 'humanitarian intervention'.
In fact, the rare voices staunchly opposed to such interventions are often associated with the right, either Ron Paul in the US or the National Front in France. The policy the left should support is non-intervention..."
RT - ‘Assad must go to save Syria from intervention’ (interview with Tariq Ali)
[QUOTE]Syrian President Bashar Assad should resign if he doesn’t want to repeat the fate of Iraq’s Saddam Hussein and Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi, while Russia and China should help him to do so, the Middle East expert Tariq Ali told RT.
British historian and journalist Ali considers it unlikely that Syrian president will step down on his own accord.
“He has to be pushed out,” Tariq Ali insists, for which “the Syrian people are doing their best”.
. . .
The expert says both Assad and his father have spilled enough Syrian blood and that “this family is unacceptable”.
“The fact is that the overwhelming majority of people in Syria want the Assad family out – and that is the key thing that we have to understand and he [Assad] should understand,” Tariq Ali claims.[/QUOTE]
Lizzie Phelan: Nuh-uh
Let's all arm ourselves with heavy machine guns, IED's, sign-up for training in terrorism with Al-CIA'duh and we'll refer to ourselves peaceful protesters while trying to overthrow the Harper stoogeaucracy by a foreign armed insurrection.
They are doing exactly that in Syria. Syria is our roadmap and template to democratizing the banana republic of Canada.
[quote]Syrian President Bashar Assad should resign if he doesn’t want to repeat the fate of Iraq’s Saddam Hussein and Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi, while Russia and China should help him to do so, the Middle East expert Tariq Ali told RT.[/quote]
Heh, "Middle East expert". Reminds me of Barry Weisleder saying Canada (actually the NDP, specifically) should demand that Libyan borders be opened so that the "rebels" could get arms. He said it here on babble.
What is it with these characters? Not enough to do in their own lives? Have to push for regime change in countries targeted by the U.S. and the U.K.?
Very very dubious behaviour.
Is it any wonder the ONDP has stifled and stymied Barry's efforts? There's one in every crowd.
Upon Return to Israel, Druze Students Say Syria Crisis Isn't All That It Seems
"Druze students returning to the Golan Heights from Syria said on Monday that they never saw any demonstrations, and that reports and pictures emerging from the country were not credible. 'There is a feeling of uncertainty, people are very confused,' said Nadar Khalabi, who studies Arabic literature.
'I went out to the street when I heard there was a demonstration, but I didn't see anyone,' he said. 'A large part of the pictures and reports from Syria are not reliable, at least that was our impression.' Another student, Wissam Safdy agreed. 'I went to the al-Mazzah neighborhood in Damascus where there were reports of demonstrations, but I didn't see anything,' he said. 'We don't know what's happening, but in Damascus things are calm, and the prevailing feeling is that in the end Syrians will come out of this crisis.."
Let's all arm ourselves with heavy machine guns, IED's, sign-up for training in terrorism with Al-CIA'duh
You'd shoot your own eye out...
Syrian News From Syrian Girl (and vid)
"Speed up reform process so that the people won't be led by Israel and America..."
Ten bucks and a moose. A lifetime of bush experience. Up here the white tails are just target practice.
Ever seen the movie "A Christmas Story"?
Yeah good movie. A boyhood friend an I used to fire bb's at each other on the beach. If our parents only knew the half of it, I'd prolly still be grounded. Good times.
International Tensions Mount Over Syria Conflict - by Partrick Martin
"The United States and other imperialist powers are pushing ahead with plans for military intervention and the overthrow of the Syrian government, convening a meeting Friday in the Tunisian capital, Tunis, of so-called 'Friends of Syria.' [John Baird is a 'Friend' going]
Tunisian Foreign Minister Rafik Abdessalem, speaking Monday after a meeting of Mediterranean region foreign ministers in Rome, said his government had decided that 'The Syrian National Council (SNC), the largest Syrian opposition group and other opposition groups will be represented at the Tunis meeting.'
The SNC is an amalgam of CIA hirelings, Islamic fundamentalists and disaffected former officers of the Assad regime in Syria, sponsored by Turkey and the US in a maneuver similar to the creation of the National Transitional Council in Libya, which provided a pretext for the US-NATO war against that country.
An SNC spokesman said the group would go to Tunis to seek military aid for the Free Syrian Army (SFA), the armed wing of the 'rebels'. The two countries that ahve the closest relations with Syria, Iran and Russia, are excluded from the meeting of the 'Friends' along with China, which joined with Russia to veto a UN Security Council resolution that would have opened the door to a Libya-style military intervention in Syria..."
Baird To Attend Friends of Syria Meeting in Tunis - by Lee Berthiaume
"...After London the Foreign Minister will jet to Tunis to attend this Friday's Friends of Syria meeting, which will be attended by high-level officials, international organizations and Syrian opposition movements. Canada has been in the vanguard of these meetings when they were still getting off the ground and building legitimacy... Officials in Baird's office have said the government is looking to co-ordinate with allies. It appears there will be discussion about arming the Syrian rebels, though Canada would never willingly admit that it was supportive of such a move.."
Yeah good movie. A boyhood friend an I used to fire bb's at each other on the beach. If our parents only knew the half of it, I'd prolly still be grounded. Good times.
We did the BB gun thing as well, along with bottle rockets. Between that, lawn darts, chemistry sets with real chemicals and hot plate creepy crawly makers its a wonder any kids from our generation survived....LOL
By the way wild hogs down here are the target of choice for target practice... it's a rare moment you see one holding still once they know you're around.
As for the subject matter: I see there is growing concern about the fate of Assad's chemical weapons and portable anti aircraft missile inventory should he fall. Maybe this will convince more people getting rid of him isn't such a good idea.
But it's probably intended to convince them of the very opposite..
[quote=Bec.De.Corbin]As for the subject matter: I see there is growing concern about the fate of Assad's chemical weapons and portable anti aircraft missile inventory should he fall. Maybe this will convince more people getting rid of him isn't such a good idea.[/quote]
[size=12] Bec, a fellow American has something to say to you: Silencing The Critics by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, the "father of Reaganomics" [quote]What the Ministry of Truth calls “peaceful protesters brutalized by Assad’s military” are in fact rebels armed and financed by Washington. Washington has fomented a civil war. Washington claims its intention is to rescue the oppressed and abused Syrian people from Assad, just as Washington rescued the oppressed and abused Libyan people from Gaddafi. Today “liberated” Libya is a shell of its former self terrorized by clashing militias. Thanks to Obama, another country has been destroyed. Reports of atrocities committed against Syrian civilians by the military could be true, but the reports come from the rebels who desire Western intervention to put them into power. Moreover, how would these civilian casualties differ from the ones inflicted on Bahraini civilians by the US supported Bahraini government, the military of which was fortified by Saudi Arabian troops? There is no outcry in the western press about Washington’s blind eye to civilian atrocities committed by its puppet states. How do the Syrian atrocities, if they are real, differ from Washington’s atrocities in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Libya, Somalia, Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo prison, and secret CIA prison sites? Why is the american Ministry of Truth silent about these massive, unprecedented, violations of human rights?[/quote] Bec, your governments no longer represent the American people. Your constitutional rights have been reduced to discussion in lapdog news media as whether Americans should receive free condoms. Americans are lied to constantly by what amounts to an Orwellian ministry of truth.[/size]
France's Secret War Against the Syrian People
"In arming the Wahhabi legion and feeding it with satellite intelligence, France conducted a secret war against the Syrian army..."
Syria: Seeking a Convenient Casus Belli - by Tony Cartalucci
"...Syria's rebels are armed. Were they running loose in New York City, a military operation mobilized to neutralize them would not be described as a 'massacre' by the corporate media...What we do know is that the West has long ago predetermined that regime change will occur in Syria, and that they will do anything necessary, at any cost to achieve it.."
What Does the Civil War in Syria Really Mean for Iran, Russia and China?
"...The behind-the-scenes but direct involvement of Gulf States like Qatar in the war in Libya adn the transformation of the Arab League into a 'US/NATO invitations committee' clearly shows that the rich oil sheikdoms are becoming concerned and have decided to counter what they perceive as the 'Shia crescent's' threat.
But let's remind ourselves of what we are talking here: the Shia crescent is nothing else but a list of countries where the Shia have been systematically and brutally repressed and excluded from the political process either by secularists (Shah in Iran, Saddam in Iraq), Wahabbi zealots (Bahrain, Saudi Arabia) or a mix of both (Lebanon).
It also happens that these are parts of the Middle East in which most of the oil can be found."
'Friends of Syria' Recognize Syrian National Council as Legitimate Authority
"The Conference of Friends of Syria' has recognized the transitional national council of Syria as the legitimate authority in the country, Al Jazeera TV Channel reported on Friday.." [Canada is one of these 'Friends' of course. This is another Western intervention folks!]
OIC: Military Intervention in Syria Could Lead to Large Scale War in the Region
"Secretary General of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu has protested against a possible foreign military intervention in Syria, the OIC told Trend on Thursday. 'We are against foreign military intervention in the processes ongoing in Syria. It could contribute to the start of a large-scale war in the region, Mr Ihsanoglu said."
Syria Conference In Tunis Draws Protesters (and vid)
"About 200 pro-Syrian demonstraters tried to storm the hotel in Tunis where a conference is being held by Arab and Western officials over the crisis in Syria. Canada's Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird has arrived at the hotel for the meeting, but the protest forced US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to be diverted to her hotel, delaying her appearance at the conference.
The Syrian government supporters, waving Syrian and Tunisian flags, tussled with police and carried signs criticizing Clinton and President Barack Obama. Police wielding truncheons stopped them from entering the venue and drove them out of the parking lot after about 15 minutes.
The Western and Arab allies are expected to endorse a proposal that Syrian President Bashar al Assad step aside and allow in humanitarian assistance to end a brutal crackdown against opponents.."
Syria Update 23 Feb: Voice Over Report - by Morris
EU To Freeze Syrian Central Bank Assets Feb 27
"The EU plans to freeze the assets of the Syrian Central Bank starting next Monday, declared French FM Alan Juppe"
Hamas ditches Assad, backs Syrian revolt
Leaders of the Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas turned publicly against their long-time ally President Bashar al-Assad of Syria on Friday, endorsing the revolt aimed at overthrowing his dynastic rule.
Tell me again now how the uprising is all just a U.S.-Zionist conspiracy?
Perhaps someone made them an offer they couldn't refuse? Never fear all will become clear...
[url=http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29476][size=16]Gladio Gang's Front Group Drafts "Humanitarian Aid" for Syria[/size][/url]
[quote]An advance draft of the Friends of Syria plan calls for al-Assad to agree to an immediate cease-fire or face a "yet-to-be mentioned response" from the "world community." It recognizes the Syrian National Council as a "credible representative of the Syrian people."
As we noted last November, the Syrian National Council is supported by the Muslim Brotherhood, which supported the al-Qaeda rebels in Libya and is now working with the NATO installed government to turn that country into another impoverished Arab vassal state indebted to the IMF and the bankers.
In January, Haitham Maleh, a founding member of the executive committee of the Syrian National Council, called for murdering Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, his British wife and three children.[/quote]
Imagine political opposition leaders in Britain or the USSA calling for the sodomization and murder of government leaders and their families. And then imagine that foreign governments are funding and arming their militant wings and fomenting civil war in America and U.K. There would be hell to pay as a result.
Yeah but stuff like that only works if the population of a country will support groups like that or be indifferent to them because they are not happy with the current government to the point of not caring what happens to it.
Yeah but stuff like that only works if the population of a country will support groups like that or be indifferent to them because they are not happy with the current government to the point of not caring what happens to it.[/quote]
I think that Qatari imperialists could fund a poll on Syrian opinions commissioned by the Doha debates and publish results showing 55% of Syrians support Assad - and the results simply would not matter as far as our lapdog newz media is concerned. Toadies in corporate sponsored news media, and whether knowingly or not, are violating international law since Nuremberg by broadcasting war propaganda. Because they know which side their bread is buttered on is no excuse. They should be arraigned on charges of war crimes and prosecuted.
Syria Unrest Not Indigenous Rebellion (and vid)
"Top US officials have called for the urgent provision of weapons, intelligence and funds to the Syrian opposition for use against President Bashar al Assad
'US Led Anti-Syria Plots Aimed at Defending Israel' (and vid)
Syria Gearing Up for Referendum (and vid)
"War-torn Syria is gearing up for an unprecedented referendum on a new draft constitution. But the opposition is calling on the population to boycott the vote, set for Sunday.."
In this rush to support the foreign armed activists (maybe we should ask for foreign arms next time we take to the streets like during the G20...), do any of these foreign policy experts stop to examine what a FAILURE Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya are? There is nothing humanitarian in these rushes to topple over regimes the US/Israel/NATO nations dislike for mostly economic reasons.
That's good but how does that equate to real boots on the ground doing the fighting?
That's good but how does that equate to real boots on the ground doing the fighting? [/quote]
What does this have to do with the fact that most Syrians support Assad and want to avoid sectarian violence and civil war, or the same sword operations used by Gladio gangsters in destroying Libya? Theyre even using the same Al-Qa'eda commander of Tripoli to lead the "Free Syrian Army" It's looking more and more like the Sword Gang murdered thousands of Americans on 9/11.
WPC Statement on the Situation in the Middle East
"The World Peace Council voices publicly its concern with the serious threat of imperialism to peace in the Middle East, which becomes once more a theatre of its ambitions as well as its internal contradictions. A few months after the aggression by imperialism and its war machine NATO, against the Libyan people and territory, the major imperialist powers orchestrate new belligerent adventures in the Middle East.
The US and EU, accompanied by Israel and the Gulf monarchies, plan moves, create pretexts, generate internal interference set on de-stablizing the countries in the region that do not fit into their plan and interests. Their current targets are Syria and Iran. The General Plan is NATO's 'Great Middle East' aiming at the control of energy resources and pipelines as well as markets for the multinational corporations and spheres of influence..."
For The Release of Our Compatriots And Colleagues Held Captive in Baba Amr - by Thierry Meyssan
"Several journalists are held in the sealed off Baba Amr area. According to Atlanticist leaders, they are prevented from leaving by the constant pounding of the rebel stronghold by the Syrian Army. As an on the spot privileged witness of the negotations, Thierry Meyssan gives and account of the situation: the journalists are kept as prisoners by the Free 'Syrian' Army which uses them as human shields. Their evacuation by the SYrian Red Crescent has been obstructed by the rebels..."
Allot. If most Syrians support Assad how can a hand full of outsiders defeat him right in front of his supporters and his army? Given how big the Syrian army is I would say if what you say is true Assad is safe from any outside overthrow attempt.
Of course that doesn't explain why his military is shooting artillery into cities (if you believe that); but hey I'm not going to ask you a question like that... you'd probably say that's irrelevant.
I think that Qatari imperialists could fund a poll on Syrian opinions commissioned by the Doha debates and publish results showing 55% of Syrians support Assad
Which is nothing compared to the 99.997% of Syrians who are going to vote in favour of his new constitution.
good point, but of course the political wishes of the Syrian people are pretty much an afterthought for many posters above
; if the dictator parrots an anti-imperialist line, he is A-OK
You make an outstanding point. Our resistance to Assad is meaningless unless it is accompanied by an equal resistance to the kleptocracy of Hamid Karzai.
Both are worthless pigs.
Nah, I'm pretty sure he's bad news, I heard on the TV that he's committing genocide against his own people. What I don't get is how that just seems to pop into the heads of these despots. But it's happening more and more lately. I think there's good grounds for boots.
Wait a sec... Isn't that where we sent Maher Arar to be vigorously interrogated? Surely there must be something that can be salvaged from that regime. Or did they stop playing ball with us?
This is so frickin' complicated, I tell you. Can't they just wear white hats and black hats? Is that asking too much??
Exactly. A pig is a pig.
[quote=Bec.De.Corbin]Allot. If most Syrians support Assad how can a hand full of outsiders defeat him right in front of his supporters and his army?[/quote]
You're prolly right. Al-CIA'duh will likely require the services of the luftwaffe. Just like they needed in creating AlCIA'duh in the Maghreb.
Draft Constitution For the Syrian Arab Republic Currently Being Put to Referendum
"Following is the full text of the Draft Constitution for the Syrian Arab Republic, to be put to referendum on February 26, 2012...
SNC 'Halfway To Recognition' By Friends of Syria
"...The conference in Tunis was not legitimate as the Syrian government was not involved, Abayomi Azikiwe, editor of The Pan African News Wire, told RT. 'They are not interested in a peace settlement, they are mainly interested in regime change in Syria. The US and Britain actively want the government in Syria overthrown as a precursor for further aggressive and hostile actions against the Islamic Republic of Iran.."
Even that woun't help. Syria has one of the most advanced air defense systems in the Middle East... it will not be like Libya.
'US To Announce Aerial Blockade on Syria'
"...the intervention scenario calls for the establishment of a buffer zone on the Turkish border, in order to receive Syrian refugees. The Red Cross would then provide the civilians humanitarian aid, before NATO crews would arrive from Turkey and join the efforts. The measure would pave the way for the US to declare an aerial blockade on Syria. The intercession is to be modeled after NATO's efforts in Kosovo, which brought an end to the Serbian control of the region..."