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Syria #9: Proxies Fail, Will Direct Intervention Follow/Succeed?

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US Prepares For Direct Intervention in Syria?   -  by Tony Cartalucci

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=32010

"...The West's problem is that not a square inch of Syrian territory is held by NATO's terrorist proxies. The announcement that indeed the US and France are maneuvering their client regime into place, while they plan on openly intervening on behalf of the so-called 'Free Syrian Army', is the final nail in the 'Opposition's' legitimacy, exposing them as placeholders of Western geopolitical aspirations in Syria and the Arab World..."

 

Syrians Condemn Murder of Officials (and audio)

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_07_21/Syrians-condemn-murder-of-officials/

"Syrian journalist Yara Ismail believes there is still room for a political solution..."


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US Claims Syria Possesses, Intends to Use Chemical Weapons

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/07/23/252308/us-claims-syria-has-chem...

"In a new offensive against Damascus, Washington has claimed that the Sryian government possesses and intends to use, chemical weapons.."


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US Claims Syria Possesses, Intends to Use Chemical Weapons

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/07/23/252308/us-claims-syria-has-chem...

"In a new offensive against Damascus, Washington has claimed that the Sryian government possesses and intends to use, chemical weapons.."

I think the Syrians themselves have announced that...

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Syria says will use chemical weapons if attacked; The Syrian regime threatened Monday to use its chemical and biological weapons in case of a foreign attack, in its first ever acknowledgement that it possesses weapons of mass destruction.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Jihad Makdissi vowed, however, that Damascus would not use its unconventional arms against its own citizens. The announcement comes as Syria faces international isolation, a tenacious rebellion that has left at least 19,000 people dead and threats by Israel to invade to prevent such weapons from falling into rebel hands.

Syria's decision to reveal the long suspected existence of its chemical weapons suggests a desperate regime deeply shaken by an increasingly bold rebellion that has scored a string of successes in the past week, including a stunning bomb attack that killed four high-level security officials, the capture of several border crossings and sustained offensives on the regime strongholds of Damascus and Aleppo.

If this story is true this is still nothing but a hollow threat: chemical and biological weapons are not really that effective against modern troops like NATO that are prepared and trained to react to such attacks; especially now that they know it will happen. They will more likly do more harm to his own troops and the citizens of Syria (almost for sure) than to NATO or whomever.

If the Assad regime falls, and that's still a big if, I think it would be best if Russia and China uses their troops to secure those weapon stockpiles. Neither of these nations have any interest in those weapons getting into the hands of nefarious organizations like Al Qaida and they are on good trems with the regime to organize an operation to secure those weapons without having to fight thier way in. That's my thinking anyways but alas I'm not running the show.


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Putin's Geopolitical Chess Game with Washington in Syria

http://www.voltairenet.org/Putin-s-Geopolitical-Chess-Game

"William Engdahl shows that Russia is indeed pursuing her national interests - which are best served by fostering a just and peaceful world environment and by thwarting the US-Israeli agenda for a Greater Middle East.."

 

Western Media Says Damascus About to Fall - While Footage of Army Cleaning Neighbourhoods of Insurgents Emerges (and vid)

http://lizzie-phelan.blogspot.ca/2012/07/western-media-says-damascus-abo...

"The insurgents have fallen into the trap of doing the fighting for the white man so that they die instead of him. Dan Glazebrook's article in the Guardian gives a good analysis about the West's strategy of using 'local' proxies instead of western soldiers in order to minimise their own public's opposition to their wars.."


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I was appalled this morning to see headlines trumpeting "Assad strikes back, thousands flee Damascus." Imagine if a thousand foreign-backed troops (and there probably weren't a thousand rebels involved in Damascus) took over several Toronto neighbourhoods. Think of Harper's counterattack! The failure of the rebel offensive was inevitable (since it was only for show anyway, so we could see headlines about Damascus being about to "fall"), but our media frame this inevitable defeat as if it were an atrocity by the Syrian army. Note that this is the second time rebels managed to get a brief foothold in Damascas (the other time was in February). And Mr. Observatory in Coventry told anyone who'd listen that it was all over for Assad that time too. Now Israel has come up with an excuse to really make a mess.

On the other hand, I'm not convinced by Webster Tarpley--seems like a bit of a kook to me. But since we've experienced the U.S. secretary of state standing up and flagrantly lying to the U.N. (Colin Powell on Iraq), and fake atrocities in Libya (air strafing of Benghazi), along with a long string of fake or misattributed massacres in Syria, we should look pretty closely at what shows up headlines. Why can't our media think critically? Le Devoir just keeps reprinting whatever France Presse Internationale sends them. It's crazy!


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I am unconvinced by predictions of Assad's imminent fall, which seem to me premature, however some excellent commentators disagree. Here are some...

 

Taylor: No Condemnation For 'Pro-Democracy Rebels'

http://thechronicleherald.ca/opinion/119868-taylor-no-condemnation-for-p...

"There is little doubt Syrian President Bashar al Assad's days in power are numbered. As every Middle Eastern analyst now agrees, the recent escalation in violence signals the beginning of the end. The jingoism of the international media is matched only by the hypocrisy of Western leaders...

Even though the Syrian crisis has been in the news almost constantly these past few weeks, most North Americans still have little understanding...When you add that 'rebel' moniker, the adjective 'pro-democracy' or as is now the case, the term 'Free Syrian Army,' how can we do anything but support such altruistic fighters?"

 

Syria: Regime Change and Smart Power  - Turkey's Erdogan.. by MK Bhadrakumar

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NG24Ak01.html

"Israel's emergence from the woodwork can signal only one thing: the Syrian crisis is moving toward the decisive phase. The lights have been switched on in the operating theatre and the carving of Syria is beginning. What is going to follow won't be a pretty sight at all since the patient is not under anesthesia, and the chief surgeon prefers to lead from behind while sidekicks do the dirty job.

So far Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar have done the maximum they could to destabilize Syria and remove the regime headed by President Bashar al-Assad. But Bashar is still holding out. Israeli expertise is now needed to complete the unfinished business. Someone is needed to plunge a sharp knife deep into Bashar's back...

The entry of Exxon Mobil and Chevron is a game-changer in the regional politics of Syria. The point is, the best transportation route to the world market for the massive oil and gas deposits in Kurdistan will be via the Syrian port city of Latakia on the eastern Mediterranean..."


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Just received a reply from Paul Dewar on the NDP's Syria policy. He talks only about Assad's attrocities and wants Harper to put pressure on Russia and China, presumably so we can all go in and bomb the crap out of the place under U.N. auspices. I explained to him the error of his ways, but since my initial letter had already covered it all, I don't hold out much hope. I suppose I wasn't all that convincing.


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Syria and chemical weapons: the really frightening possibility is that al-CIA'da will get its hands on them

Pro war propagandists resorting to such language as "...could possess" and "little is known" and "Al-Qaeda now appears to have a presence inside Syria", as if everyone is as clueless as they are on the gladio gang's invisible army of darkness marauding into Syria from Iraq, Turkey, and Libya and sponsored by America's bff and allied dictatorships in Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

the commentator 1963Dalek wrote:
Does anyone still believe this neo-con bollocks?

Not us, nor even I. And the Angels sang, No way get fucked fuck off!


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I suppose the people of Aleppo can feel proud that they were bombed by their own government rather than meddlesome foreigners.


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Yes it's too bad about Syria. I suppose NATO and their terrorists for hire will have to destroy the country in order to save it. I think the CIA should go back to assassinating foreign leaders and rigging elections. Supporting Al-CIA'da and Contra-style terrorism might be faster but the optics of it are just terrible.

Mark my words they'll pull the same thing in Iran at some point. Iran will suddenly have problems with Al CIA'da terror and mercenaries marauding in over the borders and bombing people and infrastructure. Iranians will be murdered similarly, and our lapdog newz media will blame it on the Iranian government. And nothing is new under the sun. Team Gladio has been at it since the cold war. We lefties are familiar with their MO.


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@ Gonzaga: the ndp are evil sellouts who will never oppose the interests of empire - why should they? Canucklheads will vote for them just the same because their never fail trump card always works: 'the others are worse'..

 

Washington Steps Up Drive to Overthrow Syrian Regime  - by Niall Green

http://wsws.org/articles/2012/jul2012/syri-j23.shtml

"Following its failure to ram through a resolution against Syria at the United Nations Security Council last week, the administration of Barack Obama has intensified its preparations to gather a 'coalition of the willing' to oust the government of Syria and install a US client regime. The New York Times reported Sunday that the White House is 'now holding daily high-level meetings' on Syria 'to discuss a broad range of contingency plans.'

Senior figures from the Obama administration and the Pentagon are also in discussions with their Israeli counterparts to prepare for an attack on Syria. US National Security Advisor Thomas Donilon was in Israel for talks last week and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is due to visit Jerusalem in the next few days to discuss the situation in Syria.."

 

'Obama Uses Al-Qaeda in his Syria Scenario' (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/07/24/252511/obama-uses-alqaeda-in-sy...

"...So what happened between Wednesday and Friday of last week seems like a significant defeat, at least so far on the NATO side.." Interview with Webster Tarpley.

 

Britain's Ex-Army Commdos Train Armed Rebels in Syria: UK Media

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/07/24/252536/british-army-trains-syri...

"Britain's former Special Air Services (SAS) commandos are reportedly training armed opposition groups fighting against the government of Syrian President Bashar al Assad, reports say. The Daily Mail and Sunday Express have revealed that the mercenaries have set up training camps in Iraq and on the Syrian border for the armed rebel groups and 50 militants at a time are being trained by two Mideast-based private security firms which employ former SAS personnel. Britain has also placed more than 600 troops on standby over the unrest in Syria..."

 


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The two old line parties have ruled Canada federally for twice as long as the USSR existed.

It's the democracy gap-canyon, er, chasm. Time for a democracy break right here in the northern colony. Syria has a ways to go to beat that record.


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Who is Fighting in Syria?  -  by Thierry Meyssan (and vids)

http://www.voltairenet.org/Who-is-fighting-in-Syria

"Though the Western press portrays the Free Syrian Army as an armed revolutionary group, for more than a year Thierry Meyssan has affirmed that it is, on the contrary, a counter-revoutionary body. Who is telling the truth? Who is wrong?.."


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That's right, Arab spring is an advertising slogan. And it's false advertising. NATO spring is more like it. NATO was in danger of becoming irrelevant after the cold war ended. They needed a sufficiently evol enemy to replace the Sovs. Colin Powell stated concern that they were down to two measly axes of evol nations, Cuba and North Korea. How in the world could they justify closed economies for the military-industrial complex and massive social programs for rich people with just two tiny countries defying the empire? They had to act before the average American no longer had anything to live in constant fear of. The national adrenaline level would have to be maintained, and so they invented Elvis bin Laden and "Al Qaeda", or their expendable jihadi assets who suddenly found themselves unemployed in after the Afghan job from 1979 to '89.

Neoliberal ideology is inherently undemocratic. Nixon(the madman) and Pinochet(the dictator) both understood this to be true. Arab spring is a Trojan horse for their ideology and to wipe the slate clean in various countries. 

These countries where team Gladio are supporting terrorism would never willingly become colonial outposts for the US Military and their multinational corporate friends. And they can't afford long-term military occupations - Vietnam was proof of that. Libya. Therefore they will have to do carpet bombing, like the doctor and the madman did in Vietnam and Cambodia in destroying those countries for decades afterward. It's about democracy prevention and maintaining division among the barbarians. Welcome to the new dark ages.


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What the f*ck is this "team Gladio" that you keep going on about, Fidel?


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Libya 2.0: Media Hysteria Over Syria 'Bombing' Aleppo

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.ca/2012/07/libya-20-media-hysteria-over-sy...

"If tired WMD lies won't convince the public to back foreign intervention, perhaps recycled lies from Libya? Narrations of 'brutal dictators' bombing civilians with aircraft have been used before.."

 

US Justifies Terrorism Against Syria: Russia

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/07/25/252691/us-justifying-terror-in-...

"...This is quite an awful position, I cannot even find the words to make clear how we feel. This is directly justifying terrorism. How can this be understood?' Lavrov told reporters in Moscow.."

 

Russia Condemns New EU Sanctions Against Syria

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/07/25/252705/russia-slams-eus-antisyr...

"Russia has condemned the new round of European Union (EU) sanctions imposed against Syria, describing the move as a 'blockade' against Damascus.' Essentially, the measures taken by the European Union can be considered a declaration of a sea and air blockade of Syria,' the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement on Wednesday. According to the statement the new round of embargoes on Syria violated the UN-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan's peace plan.."


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Threat of a Chemical Weapons False Flag Attack on Syria Real: Analyst

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/07/25/252722/west-plans-cw-falseflag-...

"The threat of a chemical weapon false flag attack blamed on Syria is real. On June 10, Russia Today headlined 'Syrian Rebels Aim to Use Chemical Weapons, Blame Damascus - Report,' saying: 'Opposition fighters have chemical weapons. Libyan sources supplied them. Allegedly they're planning for use against civilians. The scheme involves blaming Assad. NATO and regional allies head closer to war. A causus belli remains to initiate it. The horror of chemical attack mass casualties looks perfect.."

And as a member of 'Friends of Syria' and with the support of both the government and the 'loyal Opposition' NDP, and with an almost total disappearance of any sort of anti-war resistance, this is what Canada is supporting in your name...


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Syria Weapons Worry Canada

http://thechronicleherald.ca/canada/121006-syrian-weapons-worry-canada

"Foreign Minister John Baird says discussions about a 'post-Assad Syria' are underway, including what to do about the stockpile of chemical and biological weapons held by the country's regime. The wrong hands could belong to Islamic extremists, Baird suggested, including al-Qaida cells that have reportedly infiltrated the clashes...The Israeli government has expressed concern that Lebanon's Hezbollah might try to secure some of the weapons of mass destruction. There has been a run of gas masks inside of Israel..."

If Mr Baird is concerned about AQ militants, perhaps he should raise the issue at the next 'Friends of Syria' meeting he attends, since it is FOS that is funding and supporting them.

 

US Wants Puppet Regime in Syria: Analyst (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/07/26/252896/us-wants-puppet-regime-i...

"Press TV has conducted an interview with Jamal Wakim, a Beirut-based political analyst, to further talk over this issue..."

 

Foreign Militants Join Armed Gangs in Syria: Western Media

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/07/26/252817/foreigners-join-syria-ar...

"Western media say a number of foreign militants have joined armed gangs fighting against the Syrian security forces and rebels. The Western news outlets armed militants are now at the Bab al Hawa crossing with Turkey, and are coming from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Libya and the UAE.."

 

Syra - The Media Lies of Aljazeera and the BBC (and vid)

http://www.youtube.com/user/108morris108

Interview with 'Shoruk' of Syrian Social Club, Brixton

 


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So, I wonder when the Not-So-Free Syrian Army will decide to use chemical weapons and blame it on the actual Syian Army?


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Or maybe the Turks will chase the Kurds away...

Turkey's Pursuit of Kurdish Rebels: Pretext For NATO Intervention in Syria? (and vid)

http://www.rt.com/news/turkey-syria-kurdish-rebels-176/

"Turkey has warned that it may take action against Kurdish rebels operating in the north of Syria. Middle East expert Franklin Lamb believes this could finally lead to Turkish and NATO intervention in the country..."

 

or maybe they'll have to invade to fight their own Al Qaeda proxies...?

German Intel: Al Qaeda Behind Terror in Syria

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/07/26/252950/bnd-qaeda-behind-terror-...

"The German Federal Intelligence Service (BND) has revealed that al Qaeda is responsible for numerous terrorist attacks in Syria, including the Houla massacre.."

 

Syria Clears More Areas of Rebels, Fighting Continues in Aleppo

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/07/26/252961/syria-clears-more-areas-...

"Meanwhile gunmen in Syrian Army uniforms killed civilians in the Salahuddin neighborhood in the city (Aleppo) in an attempt to accuse the Army of masterminding the bloodshed..."


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Fidel wrote:

So, I wonder when the Not-So-Free Syrian Army will decide to use chemical weapons and blame it on the actual Syian Army?

So tell me Fidel, how do you deliver chemical weapons onto a battlefield?


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FedEx or UPS.

 


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Syrian Blood Etches a New Line in the Sand  -  by Pepe Escobar

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NG25Ak02.html

"No matter what militarized Western corporate media spins, there's no endgame in Syria - yet. On the contrary, the sectarian game is just beginning. It's 1980s Afghanistan all over again. The over 100 heavily armed gangs engaged in civil war in Syria are overflowing with Gulf Cooperation Council funds financing their Russian RPGs bought on the black market.

Salafi-jihadis cross into Syria in droves - not only from Iraq but also Kuwait, Algeria, Tunisia and Pakistan, following enraged calls from their Imams. Kidnapping and raping and slaughtering pro-Assad regime civilians is becoming the law of the land. They go after Christians with a vengeance...

Israel's motives go way beyond the Saudi/Qatari sectarian lust. Israel's Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu has just excavated a Bushism - calling Iran-Syria-Hezbollah an 'axis of evil'. What Tel Aviv wants in the long run is clear, for Washington, Obama administration or not, to bring down the axis...

For all its production values, NATO's jihad - in conjunction with al-Qaida affiliates and copycats - still has not delivered regime change..."

 

Video: Damascus, the Volcano Has Been Extinguished (and vid)

http://www.voltairenet.org/Video-Damascus-the-volcano-has

Thierry Meyssan reports from Damascus


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I doubt either of them delivers in Syria.




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Bec.De.Corbin wrote:



I doubt either of them delivers in Syria.



How does the world's biggest dope delivery service run drugs from Afghanistan to their mafia friends in Kosovo? From Colombia to inner city ghettos in Miami and L.A.?

How does the CIA manage to rendition people from Asia to Gitmo? 

Were the Mujahideen all Afhan locals who brought down the PDPA Army and Sovs using only flintlocks and 19th century British Army throwdowns? Where did the Stinger missile launchers come from, Santa's workshop?

"Secret" torture gulags in Eastern Europe? How can it possibly happen with transparent and accountable government? Let's not be so naive about such things, shall we? I promise not to if you will.

Where there is covert will there is a way. Get a letter off to your Congress person asking about this year's black budget($) and demand a cost breakdown detailing where it's spent. You might receive a reply asking whether you like sex or travel or both.


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Aleppo Blame Game: Conflicting Reports From the Ground in Syria

http://www.rt.com/news/syria-aleppo-rebels-government-forces-assad-305/

 

Replacing Government 101: Syrian Rebels Learn Democracy in Germany

http://www.rt.com/news/government-rebels-training-us-301/

"A group of top Syrian opposition figures took courses in governing a country in Berlin. The training, partially sponsored by the US State Department is meant to come in handy after the Bashar al Assad regime falls.."

 

US, Israel Plan Assad Removal to Hurt Iran: Analyst (and vid)

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/07/28/253211/us-plots-assad-removal-to...

"...According to an article on the Antiwar.com website, the United States favors the presence of Al Qaeda militants and other Sunni extremists in Syria to help the country's armed groups overthrow the government of President Bashar al-Assad." Analysts discuss


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US Proxy Al Qaeda Death Squads in Syria

Stephen Lendman wrote:
On July 11, German writer Jurgen Todenhofer confirmed  the presence of Al Qaeda insurgents in Syria. He met with them, he said. He holds them and others like them responsible for mass terror attacks.

He described a "massacre marketing strategy." He called it "among the most disgusting things that I have ever experienced in an armed conflict."

He added that Western media distort what's happening on the ground. Viewers and readers know it's their stock and trade. They're paid to lie. Journalists dedicated to truth and full disclosure need not apply.

On July 24, Asia Times writer John Rosenthal headlined "German intelligence: al-Qaeda all over Syria," saying:

"German intelligence estimates that 'around 90' terror attacks that 'can be attributed to organizations that are close to al-Qaeda or jihadist groups' were carried out in Syria between the end of December and the beginning of July, as reported by the German daily Die Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ)."

Die Welt and Bild published similar reports. All three name Al Qaeda behind the May 25 Houla massacre. Russian journalist Marat Musin was there. He said hundreds of "bandits and mercenaries" were responsible.

Washington's imperial tactics involve cutthroat killer atrocities. Human lives have no value. Only wealth, privilege and dominance matter. US officials don't keep body counts. Objectives are pursued lawlessly.

In 1980's-90's Afghanistan and Pakistan, they were referred to as Mujahideen - mercenaries and proxy hirelings from more than 40 countries trained and armed by the CIA, Pakistan's Army Intelligence, Saudis and British SAS.

There is no such thing as "Al Qa'eda."


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Syrian Troops Start Operations Against Rebels in Aleppo

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/07/28/253133/syria-troops-start-operat...

"The Syrian army has launched a military operation against rebels in Aleppo, the country's business hub and largest city. Fierce clashes between government forces and foreign-backed rebels are underway in several neighborhoods in the city.."

 

Up To 20% of Aleppo is FSA Controlled (and vid)

http://youtu.be/zZo41fE0GWY

Interview with 'Mr Aleppo' from Syria

 

Syria: Washington's Latest War Crime  -  by Paul Craig Roberts

http://counterpunch.org/2012/07/27/syria-washingtons-latest-war-crime/

"One wonders what Syrians are thinking as 'rebels' vowing to 'free Syria' take the country down the same road to destruction as 'rebels' in Libya. The hegemon is on the march.."


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Fidel wrote:

There is no such thing as "Al Qa'eda."

Then why do you keep posting stuff that says they are in Syria?


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Fidel wrote:

There is no such thing as "Al Qa'eda."

Then why do you keep posting stuff that says they are in Syria?


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