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mark_alfred

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/business/with-a-meeting-trump-renewed-...

Good old Trump, looking out for his own personal business interests.

NDPP

CrossTalk: Bullhorns on Trump's Team

https://youtu.be/AbtSYNKBYws

"President-elect Donald Trump is in the process of forming his cabinet, particularly his foreign policy team. Is there the danger he will surround himself with neocons like Obama did?"

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NDPP wrote:

 

"President-elect Donald Trump is in the process of forming his cabinet, particularly his foreign policy team. Is there the danger he will surround himself with neocons like Obama did?"

Wow is thsat a ridiculous sentence. You're worried about Obama? Jesus Christ,look at who he's putting in his cabinet. Hardcore neocons and ultra far-right lunatics. Is there a 'danger' he'll surround himself with people like Obama. Stupid beyond words.

swallow swallow's picture

What an odd question. Since he is already surrounding himself with neocons, there is obviously a danger that he will do so. 

mark_alfred wrote:

I think politics has entered the age of show business.  

The endless supplicant pilgrimages to Trump's New Jersey stage to pitch for cabinet jobs is certainly reminiscent of The Apprentice. 

iyraste1313

"President-elect Donald Trump is in the process of forming his cabinet, particularly his foreign policy team. Is there the danger he will surround himself with neocons like Obama did?"

of course who else is there but neocons and war corporates running around loose in Washington....

Stupid beyond words.....

what s stupid beyond words is your belief tht Clinton is not a warmongering neocon....ultra far right lunatics........that is what Clinton represents as well! wake up to reality!

josh

Rev Pesky wrote:

mark_alfred wrote:
... Neither Trudeau nor Trump are a threat to the corporate sector or banks, who in both nations will be empowered even further under each respective administration.  In Canada and the US there was a chance to have government that would begin to lessen power of the banks and corporate sector (NDP/Sanders) and actually begin implementing some social programs (universal childcare, strengthen/create single payer health care) and each country instead opted for celebrity.  ETA:  mind you, the obnoxious themes that Trump ran on do merit full protest. 

You have a charming simplicity of belief in the NDP, but to be specific, what was there in the recent federal election campaign in Canada that leads you to believe the NDP would threaten the corporate sector?

Sanders may have been a threat. The NDP, not so much.

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iyraste1313 wrote:

"President-elect Donald Trump is in the process of forming his cabinet, particularly his foreign policy team. Is there the danger he will surround himself with neocons like Obama did?"

of course who else is there but neocons and war corporates running around loose in Washington....

Stupid beyond words.....

what s stupid beyond words is your belief tht Clinton is not a warmongering neocon....ultra far right lunatics........that is what Clinton represents as well! wake up to reality!

Shut up.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

John Bolton,Kris Kobach,Jeff Sessions,General Flynn,Rudy Giuliani,Steve Bannon...shall I go on?

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Mike Pompeo,Tom Cotton,Jim Talent,Forrest Lucas,Jan Brewer,Sarah Palin...Seriously? You want me to go on?

 

mark_alfred

mark_alfred wrote:

I think politics has entered the age of show business.  Here and in the US the leaders are more celebrity than anything else.  It's kind of like a declaration by the public that politics is meaningless.  They have no faith, so both nations chose charades.  Neither Trudeau nor Trump are a threat to the corporate sector or banks, who in both nations will be empowered even further under each respective administration.  In Canada and the US there was a chance to have government that would begin to lessen power of the banks and corporate sector (NDP/Sanders) and actually begin implementing some social programs (universal childcare, strengthen/create single payer health care) and each country instead opted for celebrity.  ETA:  mind you, the obnoxious themes that Trump ran on do merit full protest. 

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Sanders may have been a threat. The NDP, not so much.

Taking differences of each country into account, their policies were quite similar (at least, from what I gathered by going through both Sanders' website and by going through the NDP platform.)  My comments are inspired by Adam Curtis' documentary HyperNormalisation (available on archive.org or youtube) and/or any of his documentaries, actually (they all have relatively the same theme).  Recommended.

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Forget it.

Paladin1

alan smithee wrote:

Can you spell race war?

Arms race yes.  The US starts bush fire wars all over the place then sells both sides arms to kill each other with. At some point they come in with their own weapons and start killing whoever.

I'm certain this would have carried on under Clinton as business as usual. Will trump do the same? I think there is at least a bigger chance of him inturupting that vicious circle, a much larger chance than Clinton anyways. The US at least has a chance now to break away from their insane war profiteering.

 

 

mark_alfred

The unknown is part of what makes this drama more exciting than a Clinton win (I do feel Clinton was the better choice, however).  With Clinton, it was more of the same.  With Trump, it's likely more of the same too.  But there's still the unknown of his bullish personality at play.  Will he and Putin get together and start bombing places?  Will there be increased racial tension?  Will he rip up NAFTA and we go back to FTA?  Or, will international stuff remain unchanged, but Keystone XL and coal mining resume, making some people happy with increased employment?  The last seems most likely.

mark_alfred

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The endless supplicant pilgrimages to Trump's New Jersey stage to pitch for cabinet jobs is certainly reminiscent of The Apprentice.

Heh.

josh

mark_alfred wrote:

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The endless supplicant pilgrimages to Trump's New Jersey stage to pitch for cabinet jobs is certainly reminiscent of The Apprentice.

Heh.

It's a New York stage. New Jersey already gets enough unfair blame.

bekayne
josh

Mattis has been quoted as being critical of the West Bank settlements and the cost of blind support of Israel to U.S. interests in the region. So I don't think you have to worry about him getting the job.

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Sorry Josh, but it is in fact Bedminster, New Jersey. 

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Paladin1 wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

Can you spell race war?

Arms race yes.  The US starts bush fire wars all over the place then sells both sides arms to kill each other with. At some point they come in with their own weapons and start killing whoever.

I'm certain this would have carried on under Clinton as business as usual. Will trump do the same? I think there is at least a bigger chance of him inturupting that vicious circle, a much larger chance than Clinton anyways. The US at least has a chance now to break away from their insane war profiteering.

 

 

No. America is headed for a race war. And Orange Hitler is to blame.

josh

swallow wrote:

Sorry Josh, but it is in fact Bedminster, New Jersey. 

Interviews are being conducted at the Trump Tower in Manhattan.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Dear Leader whips the media into shape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zod2dJs7WOw

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Paladin1

alan smithee wrote:

Paladin1 wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

Can you spell race war?

Arms race yes.  The US starts bush fire wars all over the place then sells both sides arms to kill each other with. At some point they come in with their own weapons and start killing whoever.

I'm certain this would have carried on under Clinton as business as usual. Will trump do the same? I think there is at least a bigger chance of him inturupting that vicious circle, a much larger chance than Clinton anyways. The US at least has a chance now to break away from their insane war profiteering.

 

 

No. America is headed for a race war. And Orange Hitler is to blame.

 

Respectfully disagree. Trump would no more be responsible for a race war than Hitler was responsible for WW2. More than one person is to blame and racisim goes back much farther than November 9th 2016.  If you're looking to place blame then include politicans, the media and everyone who chooses to make a racist comment.

josh

Hitler wasn't responsible for WWII? What? Huh?

quizzical

and this tread took and even weirder turn.

 

Paladin1

Lots of contributing factors.

The Treaty of Versailles was a huge one (practically paved the road to uniting most of Germany under the Nazi party). Russians secretly training and arming pre ww2 Germany. Japanese militarism & Italian fascism and so on.

 

swallow swallow's picture

josh wrote:
swallow wrote:

Sorry Josh, but it is in fact Bedminster, New Jersey. 

Interviews are being conducted at the Trump Tower in Manhattan.

Damn, I must have read fake news by accident! Apologies to the ppeople of New Jersey, then.

 

josh

swallow wrote:

josh wrote:
swallow wrote:

Sorry Josh, but it is in fact Bedminster, New Jersey. 

Interviews are being conducted at the Trump Tower in Manhattan.

Damn, I must have read fake news by accident! Apologies to the ppeople of New Jersey, then.

 

Read that he did do a few in Bedminster. But large majority were in Manhattan.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

No,there is no race war on the horizon..Nah,it can't happen here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Racjkzg19dI

Wake up before this shit happens here.

Cody87

Paladin1 wrote:

If you're looking to place blame then include politicans, the media and everyone who chooses to make a racist comment.

A critically important group that you missed is the group that turns a blind eye to racism. In fact, considering that those who make racist comments are a subset of those who turn a blind eye to racism, I would argue that you could simplify it to:

The only people to blame for a potential race war are those who turn a blind eye to racism, be it from intent or ignorance.

Paladin1

Trump appoints one of his fiercest critics as UN ambassador.

http://www.thejournal.ie/nikki-haley-un-ambassador-3097740-Nov2016/

 

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DONALD TRUMP HAS announced that he will nominate South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley, a Republican critic who once rebuked him for failing to disavow white supremacists, as US ambassador to the United Nations.

An Asian-American with little previous foreign policy experience, Haley was the first woman to be picked for Trump’s cabinet, injecting a measure of diversity in a group that until now has consisted solely of white men.

josh

Trump appoints rich anti-public education, anti-union right-winger to be secretary of education.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-to-name-betsey-devos-school-...

Paladin1

That SOB is taunting us! :)

JKR

Paladin1 wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

Paladin1 wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

Can you spell race war?

Arms race yes.  The US starts bush fire wars all over the place then sells both sides arms to kill each other with. At some point they come in with their own weapons and start killing whoever.

I'm certain this would have carried on under Clinton as business as usual. Will trump do the same? I think there is at least a bigger chance of him inturupting that vicious circle, a much larger chance than Clinton anyways. The US at least has a chance now to break away from their insane war profiteering.

 

 

No. America is headed for a race war. And Orange Hitler is to blame.

 

Respectfully disagree. Trump would no more be responsible for a race war than Hitler was responsible for WW2. More than one person is to blame and racisim goes back much farther than November 9th 2016.  If you're looking to place blame then include politicans, the media and everyone who chooses to make a racist comment.

The Big Bang was another important contributing factor as was the extinction of the dinosaurs.

Paladin1

Dinosaurs are literally Hitler ;)

NDPP

Larry King - Trump Casts Long Shadow Over Global Trade Agreements

https://www.rt.com/shows/politicking-larry-king/367872-trump-casts-long-...

"Larry takes a look at how Donald Trump's administration will affect trade agreements and the balance of power in a global economy.

Then, an insider's look at Alt-right leader Steve Bannon from Breitbart News..."

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

Larry King is just as stupid and shallow at RT as he was at CNN. On the other hand, here is a half hour interview with Chomsky about what to expect from the Trump administration on Al Jazeera.

iyraste1313

from Voltairenet.org...Michael T. Flynn and Islam...

The clash between Michael Flynn on one hand and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama on the other occurred in August 2012, during the circulation of a secret note concerning the jihadists in the Levant. In the part of the docupment which had been declassified, he observed that the jihadists were at war with the Syrian Arab Republic, and were supported by the tribal populations who lived in an area straddling Syria and Iraq. This situation could lead to the creation of an emirate in North-East Syria, which would correspond to the strategic interests of their sponsors - Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey. He explained that he had written this document - just after the France re-launched the war against Syria – in an attempt to oppose the support by the Obama administration for the creation of Daesh.

NDPP

A Pentagon Rising  - by William Hartnung

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/40516-focus-a-pentagon-ri...

"Veteran defense analyst David Isenberg, has convincingly argued that the 'military-industrial-congressional-complex,' not the white working class will be the real winner of the 2016, presidential election.

Drawing heavily on a military spending blueprint created by Washington's right-wing Heritage Foundation, Trump called for tens of thousands of additional troops, a Navy of 350 ships (the current goal is 308), a significantly larger Air Force, an anti-missile, space-based Star Wars-style program of Reaganesque proportions, and an acceleration of the Pentagon's $1-trillion 'modernization' program for the nuclear arsenal (now considered a three-decades-long project)."

bekayne

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A government of billionaires replaces a government of billionaires. Business as usual. The rich get richer, everyone else is screwed. 

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

That look on Romney's face. It's a portrait of a man eating shit and calling it chocolate.

montrealer58 montrealer58's picture

My billionaires are better than your billionaires!

abnormal

Supposedly Sarah Palin is being considered to head up the VA.  While she's actually made some sensible comments re the treatment of veterans I have difficulty wrapping my head around giving her any position of any sort.  Her only qualification is that she was one of the first Republicans to come out and openly support Trump.

NDPP

The Rules of the (Trump) Game  -  by Pepe Escobar

http://sptnkne.ws/cSHw

"Gen James 'Mad Dog' Mattis, chosen by President-elect Donald Trump to be the new head of the Pentagon, is a model functionary of the Empire of Chaos..."

NDPP

CrossTalk: Trump vs the Media

https://youtu.be/5zH8AibFCt4

"The trench warfare continues..."

pookie

Did you hear the one about Trump calling out a Union ldr on twitter? Who is now, naturally, getting death threats?

What a guy!

josh

By Israeli standards, Donald Trump's designated Ambassador to Israel, David Friedman, is an extreme right-winger. He might find a place in the settler movement or with Naftali Bennett's Habayit Hayehudi Party, but only on its right-wing fringes. He makes Benjamin Netanyahu seem like a left-wing defeatist. From where Friedman stands, most Israelis, never mind most American Jews, are more or less traitors. 

 

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.759443 

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NDPP

Trump's Bankruptcy Lawyer To Be New US Ambassador to Israel, Kahanists Now Control US-Israel Relations

http://richardsilverstein.com/2016/12/16/trumps-bankruptcy-lawyer-new-am...

"...He has called the liberal Zionist group J Street, 'kapos'. He has denied its Jewish supporters are even Jews. He is the president of a foundation supporting the radical settlement of Bet El. Every major media headline notes that he is even more extreme in his views than Bibi Netanyahu.

This is the ultimate triumph of Kahanism. It has literally taken over US policy. Meir Kahane isn't just spinning in his grave. He's doing the hora!

It will be a disaster."

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