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The sooner the better.

Jeremy Corbyn 'to announce reshuffle within weeks' after planning demotions over Christmas holidays

Labour leader and his team to spend festive break deciding how to reorganise the shadow cabinet and tighten grip on party

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/12066676/Jeremy-C...

NorthReport

Good!

John McDonnell refuses to back Hilary Benn in Labour reshuffle

Shadow chancellor says shadow foreign secretary had ‘important part to play’ but does not say he will keep current role

 

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/dec/29/mcdonnell-refuses-to-bac...

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Who is the leader here anyway?

Labour reshuffle: Jeremy Corbyn urged to promote more women to top roles

Jess Phillips MP calls for reversal of party's 'non-violent misogyny' in Mr Corbyn's 'revenge reshuffle'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-reshuffle-jeremy-co...

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Winning ugly: the art of Jeremy Corbyn's shambolic shuffleMartin KettleMartin Kettle

The Labour leader’s long-winded and limited shakeup left him looking like a total loser. The look was deceptive

 

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/06/winning-ugly-the-ar...

NorthReport

That was obvious!

Jeremy Corbyn reshuffle: John McDonnell dismisses Labour shadow ministers who resigned as 'narrow right-wing clique'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-reshuffle-jo...

NorthReport

My hunch is regardless of Cameron's personal political problems the UK will remain part of the EC

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voice of the damned

NorthReport wrote:
My hunch is regardless of Cameron's personal political problems the UK will remain part of the EC

"EU", I believe it is called now.

But apart from that, yeah, I don't see Brexit going through. Most of the people promoting it, and certainly the most visible, are from the far-right of the political spectrum(I gather Trump has just sent over a high-five), and I just don't see their anti-immigrant, anti-"eurocrat" rhetoric capturing the middle ground of public opinion.

lagatta

Yes, a lot of people quite rightly disagree with the bureaucratic and non-democratic structure of the EU, but a Brexit would also mean a new Scottish referendum, and is now associated with the intolerant.

In the meantime, Mayor Khan's first official engagement was attendance at the Yom Hashoah commemoration: http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/157902/sadiq-khan-pledges-zero-toleran...

Note that while the mayor said was fine, the Israeli ambassador chimed in with the usual bollocks about criticism of Israel being antisemitism and somehow equivalent to the horrors 70 years ago... Jews in London, like Muslims or anyone else in London, are not "stateless"...

Doug Woodard

Blair government's rendition policies led to rift between UK spy agencies:

http://gu.com/p/4kvgd/sbl

 

swallow

lagatta wrote:

Yes, a lot of people quite rightly disagree with the bureaucratic and non-democratic structure of the EU, but a Brexit would also mean a new Scottish referendum, and is now associated with the intolerant.

In the meantime, Mayor Khan's first official engagement was attendance at the Yom Hashoah commemoration: http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/157902/sadiq-khan-pledges-zero-toleran...

Note that while the mayor said was fine, the Israeli ambassador chimed in with the usual bollocks about criticism of Israel being antisemitism and somehow equivalent to the horrors 70 years ago... Jews in London, like Muslims or anyone else in London, are not "stateless"...

I like Khan's statement:

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And in the light of the suspension of more than a dozen Labour MPs, councillors and activists over allegations of antisemitism, he stressed "the need to understand, not just as the Labour Party but as a civilised society, that racism is racism, and there can't be any hierarchy when it comes to racism. It's really important that message is sent loud and clear from City Hall."

A good message for many in the country, the Labour party, and the crowd at that event, I think. 

JKR

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NorthReport wrote:

Another right-wing government and it may push the Scots over the edge.

It looks like Scottish independence will be greatly strengthened tonight if the SNP win almost all of Scotland's seats. And if the Conservatives have a referendum on being in the EU, Scotland will likely have another referendum on staying in the UK.

I think it's only a matter of time before Scotland has another referendum that will see it leave the UK. I think Cameron is going to go down as one of the UK's worst PM's.

bekayne

JKR wrote:
JKR wrote:
NorthReport wrote:

Another right-wing government and it may push the Scots over the edge.

 

It looks like Scottish independence will be greatly strengthened tonight if the SNP win almost all of Scotland's seats. And if the Conservatives have a referendum on being in the EU, Scotland will likely have another referendum on staying in the UK.

I think it's only a matter of time before Scotland has another referendum that will see it leave the UK. I think Cameron is going to go down as one of the UK's worst PM's.

"One of"?

swallow

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Scotland's first minister has said a second independence referendum is "highly likely" after the UK voted to leave the EU.

Nicola Sturgeon said it was "democratically unacceptable" that Scotland faced the prospect of being taken out of the EU against its will.

She said the Scottish government would begin preparing legislation to enable another independence vote.

Scotland voted in favour of the UK staying in the EU by 62% to 38%.

[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36621030]Nicola Sturgeon says second Scottish independence vote 'highly likely'[/url]

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Outrage as War Crimes Prosecutors Say Tony Blair Will Not Be Investigated Over Chilcot's Iraq War Report But British Soldiers Could Be

https://t.co/LTwRkfd3WP

"It means individual soldiers could be prosecuted for war crimes but not Mr Blair."

International Criminal Court operating just as intended. If he was Russian or African it may have gone differently.

NorthReport

Alex Salmond says Jeremy Corbyn coup attempt is about Chilcot, not Brexit

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/uk-politics/217866/video-a...

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John McDonnell fails to rule out calls for Tony Blair to be tried for war crimes

Labour's John McDonnell has refused to rule out calling for Tony Blair to be tried for war crimes over Iraq.

The shadow chancellor did not disagree with the suggestion that he and Jeremy Corbyn are going to "crucify" the former leader for "being a war criminal" when the Chilcot report comes out on Wednesday.

A number of MPs are expected to try to use an ancient law to try to impeach the former prime minister once the findings of the long-awaited inquiry into the Iraq war are published.

"I have never said that - what I have said all the way through in the last few weeks is we've got to wait for Chilcot," he told Dermot Murnaghan on Sky News.

"What I have been saying - actually it's more important that we look at the processes that led up to the Iraq war, rather than any individual role or responsibility, because I want to make sure that we put the processes in place so that we never ever make such a grave mistake again, because I think it was."

When asked if he thinks Mr Blair may have questions to answer in the international court, he said: "I want to see the Chilcot report, nobody can comment on this until we see the report itself and I'm hoping that the report will be thorough and for me the importance is not Tony Blair or any individuals - it's about the processes so we never ever get into this tragic, tragic mess again with such loss of life."

Former Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond said there "has to be a judicial or political reckoning" for Blair's role in the Iraq conflict.

"He seemed puzzled as to why Jeremy Corbyn thinks he is a war criminal, why people don't like him," he told Sky News.

"The reason is 179 British war dead, 150,000 immediate dead from the Iraq conflict, the Middle East in flames, the world faced with an existential crisis on terrorism - these are just some of the reasons perhaps he should understand why people don't hold him in the highest regard."

He added: "We are waiting to see Chilcot producing the evidence, which we believe is there, which will allow action to be taken."

 


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-3672305/John-McDonnell-fails...

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Theresa May, Your New Islamophobic Prime Minister?  -  by Craig Murray

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/07/theresa-may-your-new-islamophobic...

"Abu Qatada should indeed be a symbol. He should be a symbol of the deepest national disgrace of unjustified imprisonment and of the foul place the UK has become under successive far-right Labour and Tory governments."

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Jeremy Corbyn Labour coup designed to stop him 'calling for Tony Blair's head' after Chilcot report, says Alex Salmond

'It would be a mistake to believe that Chilcot and current events are entirely unconnected. The link is through the Labour Party'

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-labour-leade...

Rev Pesky

Quoting Robin Butler in the above posted article 'Chilcot Report Legality' in the Guardian:

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...“In fact, the joint intelligence committee said to him the intelligence was sporadic and patchy. He said to the House of Commons that it was extensive, detailed and authoritative. That was where the inconsistency lay. I don’t call that a lie, he may himself have thought it was extensive, detailed and authoritative, but it wasn’t.”

Butler said he did not think Blair should have resigned when it was revealed that Saddam Hussein did not possess weapons of mass destruction, “because he really did believe what he was doing was right”.

This is the most disingenuous statement. The intelligence wasn't 'sporadic and patchy', it was manufactured out of whole cloth. Remember the Niger yellowcake documents? The ones that were obvious forgeries. Who, one might ask, would go to the trouble of creating these forged documents. It could only be someone who needed them to shore up their case for the invasion of Iraq. That leaves a pretty small group. A group of two, in fact, the UK and the USA.

Remember Ahmed Chalabi, serial liar and recipient of USA funding for his Iraqi National Congress? That was where a massive pile of bullshit came from. 'Sporadic and patchy' my ass. It was lies a child could see through.

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Very well put, Rev.

NorthReport

Looking forward to Gove's elimination. Laughing

Theresa May Leads Race to Be U.K. Prime Minister After First Round 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-05/may-leads-race-to-be-u...

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Seven questions you were too embarrassed to ask about the Chilcot inquiry

Why it took so long, what will happen to Tony Blair and what the point is in the first place

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/seven-questions-you-were-too-embarra...

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May has a big lead inThe first vote for Pm to replace Cameron and she was in the remain camp England's financial crisis might become so bad she might decide to have another referendum or make remaining in the Europe the ballot box issue but then that might tear the Conservative party apart

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bekayne wrote:

JKR wrote:
JKR wrote:
NorthReport wrote:

Another right-wing government and it may push the Scots over the edge.

 

It looks like Scottish independence will be greatly strengthened tonight if the SNP win almost all of Scotland's seats. And if the Conservatives have a referendum on being in the EU, Scotland will likely have another referendum on staying in the UK.

I think it's only a matter of time before Scotland has another referendum that will see it leave the UK. I think Cameron is going to go down as one of the UK's worst PM's.

"One of"?

Well, picking Cameron as the absolute worst would mean picking him over Neville Chamberlain, and I'm not prepared to make that call.

NorthReport

Corbyn calls the the UK's participation in the Iraq War the most serious foreign policy calamity of the last 60 years.

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Defeated Labour rebels admit 'it's finished' as Jeremy Corbyn refuses to resign as leader

Labour rebels are in retreat after admitting that Jeremy Corbyn cannot be removed and would "win easily" if a leadership election is triggered.

One senior Labour MP said: "It's finished" as it emerged that lengthy talks between union bosses and Tom Watson, the party's deputy leader, had failed to find a solution to the deadlock.

MPs have now pinned their hopes on a challenge by Angela Eagle, despite many believing that she will not beat Mr Corbyn because of his support among members. 

It follows weeks of stalemate between the Labour leader's office and MPs who want to see Mr Corbyn step down without having to trigger a leadership campaign. 

The Labour leaderThe Labour leader CREDIT: PA

One senior MP told The Telegraph: "It's finished. He will win easily in a second contest if he is on the ballot, it's everything we wanted to avoid."

They added: "He is losing support of the membership by the day, there is no doubt about that, but they just sign up new members to replace them. He is Teflon in that sense."

Another Labour source admitted that Mr Corbyn has "dug his heels in" and "isn't going anywhere", adding: "It's grim." 

Jeremy Corbyn launches plea for his MPs to 'come together' amid Labour crisisPlay!01:59

MPs had mounted a campaign to remove the Labour leader after he sacked Hilary Benn as shadow foreign secretary following the EU referendum. 

In the following week almost every shadow minister in Mr Corbyn's top team resigned and a vote of no confidence in the leader won the support of over 80 per cent of MPs who voted. 

However Mr Corbyn and his allies, including John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor, have refused to back down and allow a new leader to be appointed, citing the mandate he won from Labour voters in September. 

McCluskey: "coup" against Corbyn has failedPlay!01:17

A Labour MP told The Telegraph: "There are more talks planned, but when one side's red line is that Jeremy stays in post and the other side says he has to go, it is impossible to find a compromise. It's done. 

"It's no good. It's possible that the PLP would consider some kind of executive role for Jeremy if he were to stand aside as leader but his team just won't consider that option, they know where the power lies."

John McDonnell has said Mr Corbyn will not resignJohn McDonnell has said Mr Corbyn will not resign CREDIT: AFP

However another said there was still hope that Ms Eagle could beat Mr Corbyn in a campaign by motivating a "groundswell" of support  following the Brexit vote. 

They said: "Jeremy and his team don't care about the public, they don't care about opposing this Government. Angela is the best hope now and people are prepared for that fight."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/06/defeated-labour-rebels-admit-...

mark_alfred

Re: post #333

That's good to read.  Of course, if Eagle does put in a challenge, then the question will be whether the same criteria (one part being getting a certain amount of MP signatures) would also apply to Corbyn or not.  I've read conflicting views on this in the press.  At this point I don't think Eagle will go through with the challenge, though, since an impending election doesn't look to be on the horizon.  But it will be interesting to see what happens.  Right now the shadow cabinet is down to the bare bones and mostly stacked by newcomers. 

NorthReport

Who is Eagle representing besides Tony Blair anyways? Certainly not her constituents. Sure looks like the Eagle has landed on a pile of poop.

Angela Eagle’s constituency branch issues statement supporting Jeremy Corbyn as Labour leader

Ms Eagle is considering a challenge to Mr Corbyn's party leadership 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/angela-eagle-s-constituenc...

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Angela Eagle ‘swooped too soon’ in Labour party coup

ANGELA EAGLE paralysed the Labour leadership coup by “jumping the gun” before she could be approved as a candidate, an insider has said.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/685717/Angela-Eagle-swooped-too-s...

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Blair has no shame. I hope those families that lost family members sue him for every cent he has.

Jeremy Corbyn told to 'sit down and shut up' in Commons as he criticises Iraq War after publication of Chilcot report

A number of MPs reported unrest on the Labour benches as the Labour leader gave his statement on the Chilcot report

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-told-to-sit-...

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It's almost impossible to keep up with lyin' Tony's lies.

Intelligence files support claims Iraq invasion helped spawn Isis

Documents released as part of Chilcot report make clear security services’ concern over jihadi groups

The JIC documents challenge a claim made by Tony Blair that Isis was largely born in Syria rather than Iraq. 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/06/intelligence-files-suppo...

NorthReport

Why is there rarely accountability for the rich and powerful in life, eh! Blair can get away with contributing to huge numbers of dead, which is still going on by-the-way, in his stupidity, and he walks away scott-free, or did he? Has Chilcot checked for Blair's Swiss and other off-shore bank accounts? Probably not, and why is that you ask? Well they probably both went to the same uppercrust schools if you get my drift. What a useless report with its complete whitewash of accountabilty for the people responsible. What's the point as the Chilcot Inquiry message is loud and clear: If you are rich and powerful you can get away with murder.  Frown

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Bingo! Frown

Chilcot report a ‘total waste of time’: father of British soldier killed in Iraq

A British inquiry says the 2003 Iraq invasion was a bad decision based on flawed intelligences. But as Jeff Semple reports, the report does nothing to hold the people who started the war accountable.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2807952/chilcot-report-a-total-waste-of-time-f...

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Nobody's perfect but Jean Chretien is looking better and better with each passing day. I hope you are paying attention Justin and please disregard anything whatsoever that comes out of that useless off-shore to avoid taxes, labour and environmental laws, Paul Martin's mouth.

mark_alfred

NorthReport wrote:

Who is Eagle representing besides Tony Blair anyways? Certainly not her constituents. Sure looks like the Eagle has landed on a pile of poop.

Angela Eagle’s constituency branch issues statement supporting Jeremy Corbyn as Labour leader

Ms Eagle is considering a challenge to Mr Corbyn's party leadership 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/angela-eagle-s-constituenc...

That's great. 

sherpa-finn

Funny that. Doesn't the fact that two arch conservative, right wing papers (The Telegraph and Daily Express, cited above) are so delighted with the supposed collapse of the anti-Corbyn "coup" give anyone reason to pause ....??

I guess those papers must just be pleased to see the Labour Party become a more radical, grass-roots movement, presenting a credible electoral alternative to the Conservative Gov't.

Not.   

NorthReport

Labour Leader is feared by the MPs and the media because they fear grassroots democracy

josh

Gove knocked out.  It will be May versus Leadsom.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/tory-leadership-election/74148/tory-leadership-...

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sherpa-finn wrote:

Funny that. Doesn't the fact that two arch conservative, right wing papers (The Telegraph and Daily Express, cited above) are so delighted with the supposed collapse of the anti-Corbyn "coup" give anyone reason to pause ....??

I guess those papers must just be pleased to see the Labour Party become a more radical, grass-roots movement, presenting a credible electoral alternative to the Conservative Gov't.

Not.   

Or they are fools, who have no real understanding of what is going on in society today. I vote for that interpretation.

NorthReport

Who gives a rats ass what a right-wingers war mongering propaganda publication says Let's face it you have drunk the kool aid just like Blair did, and look where it got him as Blair is the biggest national disgrace and buffoon in the UK in modern times in the UK. Blair may as well be a Cons party member. He just used the Labour Party to lick Bush's ass.

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France overtakes Britain as world’s fifth largest economy as Brexit fears hit markets

Pound falls against the euro, putting France ahead of Britain for first time since 2014

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/france-britain-uk-world-s...

NorthReport

Pathetic little man. Smile

The spectacular self-destruction of Michael Gove

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/07/the-spectacular-self-destruct...

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And these people run the country. Yikes! Frown

Andrea Leadsom: I didn't like gay marriage law because it hurts Christians, admits Tory contender to be PM

'My first task is to show how great we are as a nation – let’s banish the pessimists'

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/andrea-leadsom-brexit-spee...

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