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Ken Burch wrote:

And it goes without saying that those who want Labour to go back to being the right-wing party it was under Blair, like nicky, have only been pushing for Corbyn to endorse having the party go all-out Remain because they know that that position would make a landslide Labour defeat a certain, because that position would throw every Labour seat in the North and Northeast of England to the Brexit Party, which would then hold all of those seats for the next ten to fifteen years.  

This has been the motivation of the anti-Corbyn, antidemocratic wing of the PLP the whole time.

Why would Labour members want to help the Brexit Party and hurt their own party for the next ten to fifteen years?

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JKR wrote:

Ken Burch wrote:

And it goes without saying that those who want Labour to go back to being the right-wing party it was under Blair, like nicky, have only been pushing for Corbyn to endorse having the party go all-out Remain because they know that that position would make a landslide Labour defeat a certain, because that position would throw every Labour seat in the North and Northeast of England to the Brexit Party, which would then hold all of those seats for the next ten to fifteen years.  

This has been the motivation of the anti-Corbyn, antidemocratic wing of the PLP the whole time.

Why would Labour members want to help the Brexit Party and hurt their own party for the next ten to fifteen years?

Because the Labour MPs I'm speaking of here would rather see Labour lose elections than accept the party being anything other than their private club and their ticket to the only thing they really care about:  high paying corporate directorships and the kind of massive, unearned wealth they can acquire giving smug, pompous defenses of the status quo on the ruling class after-dinner speech circuit.

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Those are the same MPs who never accepted Corbyn as leader in the first place and have refused ever to treat him with any respect at all.  They are pushing for Labour to go all-out Remain in order to ensure that Labour loses the next election, so they can force Corbyn out as leader and then rig the leadership ballot to exclude any non-Blairite candidates.  That's what everything the anti-Corbynites have done for the last four years has been about.

JKR

Ken Burch wrote:

Because the Labour MPs I'm speaking of here would rather see Labour lose elections than accept the party being anything other than their private club and their ticket to the only thing they really care about:  high paying corporate directorships and the kind of massive, unearned wealth they can acquire giving smug, pompous defenses of the status quo on the ruling class after-dinner speech circuit.

 

How many Labour MP's fit into this category?

NDPP

"New: ComRes poll of 26,000 people shows that the majority of Brits want the referendum result delivered (regardless of how they voted), with LEAVE outpolling Remain as preferred outcome by 54% to 46%..."

https://twitter.com/isaby/status/1184373555443720192

 

"The tragedy for Labour is that it has been wrong on Europe. It has been on the opposite side of the argument to the British people at various times in history. Brexit was centre-left ideas made by centre-right politicians. If we'd been LEAVE we'd be the Gods of politics."

https://twitter.com/BrendanChilton/status/1183848981174112256

NDPP

WATCH: Juncker & Johnson Say Brexit Deal Struck Between EU and UK

https://www.euronews.com/2019/10/17/juncker-and-johnson-say-brexit-deal-...

"Jean-Claude Juncker and Boris Johnson have both announced that a Brexit deal has been struck between the EU and the UK..."

 

Labour Leave

https://twitter.com/labourleave/status/1183799891404955652

"We as a campaign will not support a deal with Brussels that in any way resembles the Withdrawal Agreement. Labour Leave supports a clean Brexit. That is what the people of this country voted for."

NDPP
  • BRINO By Boris: Brexit-In-Name-Only

https://twitter.com/C_Lapavitsas/status/1184891237863772160

"Johnson's deal accepts all EU constraints on public procurement and state aid, while adding a 'Free Trade Agreement'. It could block radical policies for decades. Johnson's deal with the EU is worse than May's and it has nothing to do with Lexit. But the answer to Johnson should not be to Remain in the restrictive and undemocratic EU. It should be LEFT BREXIT that would make radical policies possible."

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JKR wrote:

Ken Burch wrote:

Because the Labour MPs I'm speaking of here would rather see Labour lose elections than accept the party being anything other than their private club and their ticket to the only thing they really care about:  high paying corporate directorships and the kind of massive, unearned wealth they can acquire giving smug, pompous defenses of the status quo on the ruling class after-dinner speech circuit.

 

How many Labour MP's fit into this category?

(note: that question was a quote from JKR.  I'm not sure why it's appearing like it's part of my post).

You'd have to assume the majority of the anti-Corbynites, virtually all of whom are only in their seats because Kinnock or Blair imposed them as parliamentary candidates against the will of their constituency parties, would fit in that category.   It's virtually impossible to be an anti-Corbyn MP without being at least somewhat corrupt and cynical.  The massive number of former Blairite MPs and cabinet ministers who have ended up in high-paying, often no-show corporate positions or commanding absurdly large fees on the ruling-class speaking circuit clearly bears this out.