U.S. immigration decree and its effects

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lagatta4
U.S. immigration decree and its effects

I thought it might be useful to start up a new thread for this issue, because it has a lot of implications here (and elsewhere) and I thought it would get lost in the Trump administration thread.

http://www.ledevoair.com/societe/actualites-en-societe/491133/frapper-un...

Ms Fadwa Aloui, a Canadian citizen born in Fèz, Morocco, her cousin and her two children were headed in her car to a shopping trip in Burlington (Vermont, I assume?) and they were interrogated for a long time at the US border. She was asked about the mosque she attended, her imam and what she thought of Trump!

This had happened to her before shortly after the WTC attack in 2011, but finally the customs and immigration agents let her through then. This time, they were all refused, despite valid Canadian passports.

And I thought the Church of Shopping was the national religion in Trumpland!

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josh

Not in leftist Burlington.  Home of Bernie Sanders.

lagatta4

It isn't Burlington's fault. I can't find an article in English. I'd be inclined to write to Sanders' staff.

6079_Smith_W

Several people have had severe frostbite, including one man who lost all his fingers. It is likely just a matter of time before someone freezes to death making that trek.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/22-refugees-enter-manitoba-1.3969874

lagatta4

Thank you Smith. I chose the title wanting this thread to address other stories as well as the malicious and racist treatment of a woman who just wanted to do a daytrip with family.

It is entirely possible that people have frozen to death, and their bodies not found.

There are also stories of academics and others denied entrance to the US and stuck in limbo here.

lagatta4

An article in the Gazette pretty much repeats the Devoir article, in English: http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/i-was-denied-entry-to-u-s-aft... However, there is a torrent of hatred in the comments. I thought the Gazette had eliminated comments because of all the hate.

lagatta4

Yes, that is horrible, and people will die. There is also more about Mme Alaoui on that page - her little boy was just over chemo, and she wanted to buy him a present. And she has parents and other relatives in the US.

josh
Sean in Ottawa

The Trump regime is not operating the US as a normal country and there will be more of this type of thing.

Canada should adjust for humanitarian reasons alone. I realize the difficulty with making it easier for people to come in -- hen the US is pushing them so hard. We could have a number of people coming that would be difficult to manage -- but what alternative is there. Letting people die in the snow is not a plan.

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

6079_Smith_W wrote:

Several people have had severe frostbite, including one man who lost all his fingers. It is likely just a matter of time before someone freezes to death making that trek.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/22-refugees-enter-manitoba-1.3969874

I've been saying the same thing - people are risking their lives and it's only a matter of time before someone dies trying that walk in the cold. If someone hasn't already and we don't know about it yet. 22 more people walked over the border last weekend near Emerson, MB, including a family with small children.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/manitoba/22-refugees-enter-manitoba-1...

Here's a heartbreaker:

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-refugees-border-cro...

lagatta4

Now a young man of Moroccan origin born in Canada was denied entry to the US although he was part of a track and field team invited to a meet in Boston: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/another-canadian-citizen-refused-...

 

Yassine Aber, a 19-year-old kinesiology student at the University of Sherbrooke, was denied entry Thursday while trying to cross the border at Stanstead, Que.

Aber was travelling to a track meet in Boston with other members of the university's track-and-field team. He was born in Canada to parents who were originally from Morocco and was travelling on a valid Canadian passport.

josh

A Winnipeg centre that welcomes and houses newcomers is putting out a public call for help after getting another surge of asylum-seekers over the weekend. 

 

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/manitoba/welcome-place-call-for-help-1.3979227 

6079_Smith_W

Note. This is from last summer, so it was happening even before he was the candidate

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-06/crops-rot-while-t...

quizzical

what was happening?

6079_Smith_W

Legislation and threats against undocumented workers. It was particulary bad in Georgia. It is most certainly a lot worse now that he is president.

 

quizzical

i read the article it was when he was running and spewing his hate

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

America was not great before Trump. Here is an article that contains statistics on what has happened since the Bush years with illegal immigrants. The part that gets me is the incarceration quota for their prisons. If you blame everything on Trump then the system stays unscathed until the next nice talking POTUS comes along to continue the same policies. Expect a Trudeau clone to follow Trump. A good looking fast talking liar to impress the masses and give them the power to rule on behalf of their class.

Quote:

The Border Patrol’s budget has expanded from $5.9 billion 2003 to $11.9 billion in 2013, while ICE’s grew from $3.3 billion to $5.9 billion. As of 2013, the two agencies had a total budget of nearly $18 billion, and that number increased to nearly $20 billion in 2016.

Another factor for the increase in deportations during Obama’s terms comes from legislation that has become known as a “bed mandate” or “bed quota:”

The bed quota requires U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to hold an average of 34,000 individuals in detention on a daily basis. This quota has steadily increased since its establishment in 2009. No other law enforcement agency is subject to a statutory quota on the number of individuals to hold in detention.

The bed quota prevents ICE from exercising discretion and expanding more efficient alternatives to detention (ATD) that would allow individuals who pose no risk to public safety to be released back to their families while awaiting immigration court hearings.

The Washington Post described how ICE has maintained that average of 34,000 individuals in detention and how the practice has affected the number of deportations:

The policy requires U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to keep an average of 34,000 detainees per day in its custody, a quota that has steadily risen since it was established in 2006 by conservative lawmakers who insisted that the agency wasn’t doing enough to deport unlawful immigrants.

But as illegal crossings from Mexico have fallen to near their lowest levels since the early 1970s, ICE has been meeting Congress’s immigration detention goals by reaching deeper into the criminal justice system to vacuum up foreign-born, legal U.S. residents convicted of any crimes that could render them eligible for deportation. The agency also has greatly expanded the number of undocumented immigrants it takes into custody after traffic stops by local police.

http://www.snopes.com/obama-deported-more-people/