No jobs for medical graduates?

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NorthReport
No jobs for medical graduates?

This is confusing

Out here on Canada’s West Coast there is a significant shortage of doctors and many people cannot get a family doctor

Why don’t these medical graduates just move to BC?

 

https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/2018/04/12/doctors-without-jobs.html

JKR

NorthReport wrote:

This is confusing

Out here on Canada’s West Coast there is a significant shortage of doctors and many people cannot get a family doctor

Why don’t these medical graduates just move to BC?

 

https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/2018/04/12/doctors-without-jobs.html

 

Did you read the article?

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

Or even just the very first word.  The one in all caps, before the actual story starts.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

You'd think they'd be able to just slot everybody in to every place there's a need. How difficult can that be?

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

As I understand it, residency is sort of like an advanced apprenticeship.  A hospital might need a doctor, but to hire a resident they would also need a supervising attending physician.  I'm not certain whether every hospital has residents, or only teaching hospitals.

The analogy would be some communities in desperate need of plumbers, but with nobody to supervise and teach apprentices.

Badriya

JKR wrote:
NorthReport wrote:

This is confusing

Out here on Canada’s West Coast there is a significant shortage of doctors and many people cannot get a family doctor

Why don’t these medical graduates just move to BC?

 

https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/2018/04/12/doctors-without-jobs.html

 

Did you read the article?

Obviously NR did not read the article, because the reasons are given.

The factors driving the trend include: an increase in the number of Canadian medical grads coupled with a stagnant number of available positions; the competing interests of the provinces; and relatively new rules allowing international grads to compete for spots initially reserved for Canadians in the second round of CaRMS.

 

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

Quote:
Obviously NR did not read the article, because the reasons are given.

Well, and also because he said "Why don’t these medical graduates just move to BC?" when it was a Vancouver story.

JKR

Badriya wrote:

JKR wrote:
NorthReport wrote:

This is confusing

Out here on Canada’s West Coast there is a significant shortage of doctors and many people cannot get a family doctor

Why don’t these medical graduates just move to BC?

 

https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/2018/04/12/doctors-without-jobs.html

 

Did you read the article?

Obviously NR did not read the article, because the reasons are given.

The factors driving the trend include: an increase in the number of Canadian medical grads coupled with a stagnant number of available positions; the competing interests of the provinces; and relatively new rules allowing international grads to compete for spots initially reserved for Canadians in the second round of CaRMS.

 

That's a very good Cole's Notes version of the article!

NorthReport

Canada does not owe anyone an occupation. If you want to be a doctor, stop whining and start up your own practice

JKR

NorthReport wrote:

Canada does not owe anyone an occupation. If you want to be a doctor, stop whining and start up your own practice

Did you read the article that you posted?

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

To be fair, perhaps the article didn't say it plainly.

NR, residency isn't just a job at a hospital after a physician graduates from medical school.  It's a necessary final step toward being licensed to practice independently.  Some physicians may choose a specialty (e.g. a surgical residency, an anesthesiology residency, etc.) but even family practice requires residency. 

tl;dr:  you cannot be licenced to practice medicine independently without having completed a residency.

NorthReport
  1. Vancouver

‘There must be a better way’: More medical grads expected to be jobless after graduation than ever before

The strained national matching system leaves medical students with no guarantee they can practice where they’re most needed once they get their MD, or at all. Here’s the broken system that got us here and what needs to happen to reverse the trend.

Brittany Harrison stands in front of St. Joseph's Hospital in Hamilton, Ont., where she is currently a medical resident, on April 12.

Brittany Harrison stands in front of St. Joseph's Hospital in Hamilton, Ont., where she is currently a medical resident, on April 12.  (EMILY KERTCHER / FOR STARMETRO)

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

Yes.  Evidently, after sitting on the bench for a year waiting, she got a residency spot in Hamilton.

It's the same everywhere, NR.  Telling MD graduates to "come to B.C." is silly, since B.C. has plenty of them too.

Again, though, they can't just hang a shingle without a licence, and they can't get a licence without that residency.  You get that now, right?