google watch
Is google getting too big? Too powerful?
How much do you rely on google, for email, discussion groups, video, etc?
It's not that we believe Google is evil. What we believe is that Google, Inc. is at a fork in the road, and they have some big decisions to make. This Google Watch site is trying to articulate and publicize the situation at Google, and encourage more scrutiny of their operations. By doing this, we hope to play a small part in maintaining the web as an information tool that is more useful for the masses, than it is for the elites.
That's why we and over 500 others nominated Google for a Big Brother award in 2003. The nine points we raised in connection with this nomination necessarily focused on privacy issues:
Google distorts reality, Austrian study says. September 30, 2007
by Prof. Hermann Maurer, editor and co-author, 187-page study from Graz University, Austria.
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Creepy gmail
Your cookie tastes better to Google with your email address
Thirty-one organizations urge Google to suspend Gmail
Privacy? Who cares about privacy?
Gmail and the privacy issue: a FAQ with more links
Mark Rasch: "Google's Gmail: spook heaven?"
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I don't use Gmail (though I do have a couple of dormant addresses I have registered but never give out to anyone). I also don't "Sign In" to Google, which would allow it to build a dossier on my web searches.
Google is a fantastic search tool that makes the internet much easier to use, but it is a real threat to privacy.
This company may harm your Internet Google and its "safe browsing" database February 3, 2009
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How much do you rely on google, for email, discussion groups, video, etc?
I only use Google for web searches because it is a superior search engine.
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Eleutherophobics of the World...Unite!!!
Google is also attempting to buy the past by taking control of the once-free web site that was digitizing vast numbers of old newspapers, formerly-Canadian paperofrecord.com. The large archive of history covering everything from the Toront Star to Yukon papers to Australian and Mexican dailies is no longer available for free. If google can't sell it, they'll buy it and take it offline.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/news/thread?tid=1c47e6d29331dc2c&hl=en
I like the fact google is challenging microsoft because I thoroughly dislike microsoft. If google can put microsoft out of business I'll be a happy camper.
Go Google Go!
I like the fact google is challenging microsoft because I thoroughly dislike microsoft. If google can put microsoft out of business I'll be a happy camper.
Go Google Go!
I don't disagree with that. Competition is fundamentally good. And, to be able to effectively compete with Microsoft, a company needs to be large and powerful as well.
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Eleutherophobics of the World...Unite!!!
so...does a corporation need to be unethical to compete with another unethical corporation?
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Reading the google watch site (linked above), it seems despite its hip ethical image, google inc. functions pretty much like any exploitative, cutthroat corporation. NorthReport, Sven, have you ever looked through David Korten's When Corporations Rule the World? Why must we rely on private corporations to provision so many of our wants and needs?
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Henry Porter: Google is just an amoral menace
It does this with impunity because it is dominant worldwide and knows the songwriters have nowhere else to go. Google is the portal to a massive audience: you comply with its terms or feel the weight of its boot on your windpipe.
Despite the aura of heroic young enterprise that still miraculously attaches to the web, what we are seeing is a much older and toxic capitalist model - the classic monopoly that destroys industries and individual enterprise in its bid for ever greater profits. Despite its diversification, Google is in the final analysis a parasite that creates nothing, merely offering little aggregation, lists and the ordering of information generated by people who have invested their capital, skill and time. On the back of the labour of others it makes vast advertising revenues - in the final quarter of last year its revenues were $5.7bn, and it currently sits on a cash pile of $8.6bn. Its monopolistic tendencies took an extra twist this weekend with rumours that it may buy the micro-blogging site Twitter and its plans - contested by academics - to scan a vast library of books that are out of print but still in copyright.
One of the chief casualties of the web revolution is the newspaper business, which now finds itself laden with debt (not Google's fault) and having to give its content free to the search engine in order to survive. Newspapers can of course remove their content but then their own advertising revenues and profiles decline. In effect they are being held captive and tormented by their executioner, who has the gall to insist that the relationship is mutually beneficial. Were newspapers to combine to take on Google they would be almost certainly in breach of competition law.
I used to be able to find and watch the band Anti-flag's official video "One trillion dollars" on youtube no problem. It seems to have been removed. Is the content too honest, especially in the current financial climate?
Are licensing rights being used to control content?
see anti-flag's video "one trillion dollars" on myspace
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Creep mail: If you search google while logged into a gmail account, someone can know what you are looking for.
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I only use google as a search engine and reading this I'm glad. However I have a hard time believing that my hotmail account is any better
Gram do you have any advice for avoiding these companies as much as possible? Whats a good alternative web-based email provider?
Google to limit free news access
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8389896.stm
Well, that was quick. From cheeky upstart to bloated monopolist in a few short years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/28/opinion/28raff.html?_r=1
Ironic how much Google has become like Microsoft, using its size to crush rivals, releasing strategic rumours of new services to discourage competitors, and buying innovation as its in-house processes become increasingly sclerotic.
Corporation nothing more needs be said. It's in their charter to earn profits at all costs. It is worse than slavery because slave owners were responsible for their slaves health and well being as it served their bottom line, corps aren't. Money is the only thing that matters. Not to offend cultures that were slaved, but at this point it is all cultures being enslaved to the wage(pitifully falling every year).
Remember right wing idiology states "you are responsible for yourself" so you can't just blame someone else, it obviously must be you.
Gram do you have any advice for avoiding these companies as much as possible? Whats a good alternative web-based email provider?
I'm not expert on that, I was kinda hoping for answers to the same question from other babblers. Google books has to be watched too.
..for some time now google has been fostering a cozy relationship with the CIA. below is a link to democracy re: google. i use google for email, blog, photo, reader and search and now i want to end this relationship.
..question: where can i set up house for each of my needs that is left friendly?
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/30/google_teams_up_with_cia_to
anyone been following the new google/cia program?
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/30/google_teams_up_with_cia_to
how bout the google earth thing where they basically wiretapped all the wifi signals from houses they passed by, recording the data and saving it in massive databases?
(edit) sorry, i just repeated the above post.
Gmail Gets Dialed Up a Notch With New Calling Feature
The new feature is fully integrated into the Google Chat interface that’s already in Gmail, and users can search their Google contacts and make phone calls to those people the same way they can currently launch a chat session or a video chat session.
Pricing is cheap — calls to the U.S. and Canada are free, and PC-to-phone calls to dozens of countries around the world are only two cents per minute. If you’re routing Google Voice to your mobile phone, rates for calls to the United Kingdom, France, India, Spain and Mexico are all under 20 cents per minute.
“We went through a couple of exercises when figuring our how to price it,” says Google product manager for group communications Craig Walker. He says they wanted to make it competitive with other PC-to-phone technologies, like Skype.
Gmail Phone Calls Are All About Facebook, Not SkypeWhile there’s no reason to limit this to Gmail users, Google is looking to cement both Gmail and Google accounts as central to web user’s experiences. That’s why Google didn’t release a standalone application today — which would have signaled an assault on Skype.
Instead the new service is intended to play to Google’s current successes, namely Android phones — which integrate closely with Gmail and Google Voice — as well as set the stage for Google’s rumored fall launch of a social networking service to compete with Facebook.
I wouldn't worry too much about Google - their previous transgressions like when they were doing their google maps and ended up with lots of personal information from people's computers and how they have colluded with the Chinese government by agreeing to censored searches has put a lot of people's backs up.
Like every great empire, Google will no doubt fall at some point, to be replaced by someone else, likewise with Facebook. The problem is, Pandora's box is open now. We will never get some kind of ethical search engine that does not seek to use our personal information and search preferences in order to earn themselves bucketloads of money. You cut off the head of Google and another one will grow, it will just be called something else.
Exclusive: Google, CIA Invest in ‘Future’ of Web Monitoring
Ignore the gobbledeguk. They intend to step-up their spying on the lives of Americans.
Tips for safe searching using Google:
1) Make sure you're not logged-in to a Gmail account.
2) Clear your cookies
3) Don't use Google without a front-end. Use Scroogle instead: https://ssl.scroogle.org/
If you're not familiar with Scroogle, it's a service put up by a privacy-advocate, that acts as a front-end to Google. Scroogle takes your search request and forwards it to Google, stripping all the identifying information away from the request. As far as Google is concerned, all the requests are coming from Scroogle's IP addresses instead of yours. If you don't trust Scroogle, then use Tor to prevent Scroogle from learning your real IP address. Also, if you are using SSL (i.e. https://) your ISP won't be able to monitor your search activity either.
Using a combination of SSL, Scroogle and Tor is an excellent way of preventing anyone from building-up a profile on you, based on your search engine activity.
Sid Vicious
Google and the Technocratic Conscience: Don't Be Evil
Cyber-pessimists see things quite differently. They wax nostalgic for the early days of the Web when discovery was random, and even fun. They complain that Google has destroyed the joy of serendipitous Web surfing, while its much-celebrated ecosystem is just a toxic wasteland of info-junk. Worse, it’s being constantly polluted by a contingent of “content farms” that produce trivial tidbits of information in order to receive a hefty advertising paycheck from the Googleplex. The skeptics charge that the company treats information as a commodity, trivializing the written word and seeking to turn access to knowledge into a dubious profit-center. Worst of all, Google’s sprawling technology may have created a digital panopticon, making privacy obsolete....
Ultimately, “Don’t Be Evil” makes as much sense as a corporate motto as it does as a motto of American foreign policy: it provides no answers to any of the important questions while giving those who embrace it an illusion of rectitude. Even Levy, for all his hagiographical celebration of Google’s prowess, acknowledges that the company has a “blind spot regarding the consequences” of its actions. That blind spot is entirely self-inflicted. It is very nice that Google employs someone whose job title is “in-house philosopher,” but in the absence of any real desire to practice philosophy such a position seems superfluous and vainglorious....
So far Google has not made much progress in acknowledging the political nature of its services, accepting that algorithms can be as flawed and biased as the coders writing them, or finding a way to help users report what Google got wrong without having to sue the giant. Occasionally, the individuals hurt by Google bring their grievances to the media (a New York Times story about a Brooklyn entrepreneur—who abused his customers so they would complain about his company on blogs and Internet forums and thus boost his search ranking—did help to change the algorithms); but this is not a sustainable way to resolve users’ problems with Google. Yes, there would always be concerns about the freedom of expression and the need to balance one’s quest for privacy with the speech rights of others; and Google would surely need to dedicate a lion’s share of resources to monitor such complaints. But simply refusing to open the Pandora’s box of information injustice that it has been causing—as Google has done to date—is no longer a tenable strategy for the company. It can’t get away by redirecting blame to its own algorithms forever.
The last couple of days when trying to watch programs on Real News Network I have been getting a google warning that it might contain malware.
Does anyone have any idea what that is about? Being somewhat paranoid of corporate control I can't help wondering if it is getting some sort of special treatment to reduce traffic on the site.
I've often wondered about warnings like that on leftish websites.
It may be that the site has been the target of right-wing cyber-hackers who try to install malware that downloads onto your computer. It's quite plausible that the right would seek to create such mischief, and deter people from visiting the site.
Google's advertising woes may just be beginning
This interesting article contains many links that point to evidence of possible fraud on the part of Google against its advertisers, as well as assistance to those advertisers in defrauding and misleading the public. The allegations involve "click fraud", "typosquatters", and "invisible ads".
Who does Google think you are?
Apparently I like jazz, soccer and "women's interests." Ok.
It doesn't work for me. Google keeps insisting I have not enabled cookies, when in fact I have.
"No interest or demographic categories are associated with your ad preferences yet."
How bland I am.
..got an email from google a short while back that they will be intergrating all your accounts by spring. this includes getting info from your emails to "better serve your interests". i've been slowly divesting eveything google for a while now. plus the made me older than i am by 4 years. i can't forgive them for that.
I don't much use my Google account and I don't use gmail. And when I make use of my Google account I don't stay logged in so as to limit their ability to track my movements around the net.
Mind you FB tracks your movements even when you are logged out.
I Fought the Google, and the Google Won
I was looking for this thread when I started this thread. (thanks for your reply, btw, fidel.)
As I state there, I was both intrigued and creeped by Google's 100% synchronization with my e-mail client.
Being late to gmail, I thought I'd give it a try when I cancelled my home internet last year. Then when I later signed up with Shaw, they would not give me an SMTP address, so I can't use Shaw as the server unless I use Shaw webmail. And I hate webmail. MTS last year moved to Windows Live as a server, and that was even worse.
Google makes it very easy to use with your computer's e-mail application. But I'm increasingly uncomfortable with it.
As to the question what the alternative is, you could actually just register your own domain and keep a cheap one-page website up, using your domain for an email address. There is a Canadian company that offers e-mail hosting with your own domain. $30 - $35 a year.
Google+ Hangouts On Air: broadcast your conversation to the world
Ugh! Just what we need: turn YouTube into a billion-member video chat forum.
It's Joe Gobbels' dream come true. And I think the lapdog newz media have only themselves to blame for the average person thinking they can do better.