The Iraq War’s discredited cheerleaders are at it once again

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The Iraq War’s discredited cheerleaders are at it once again

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Alas, the keyboard cavalry has no sense of decency. Instead, they kept their comfy gigs, hefty cash-to-yak cheques and impressive-looking calling cards.

With the Iraq War receding further into their rearview mirror and always on the hunt for more war, the cavalry has suddenly taken to saying and writing the stuff they said and wrote the last time they offered up geopolitical advice.

But, this time, the cavalry has set their sights on Vlad, not Saddam. You see, they’re working their way down the alphabet of tyrants. (Please note that the cavalry has skipped calling Mr. T — aka Donald Trump — a tyrant-in-waiting since he’s, well, the “president-elect.”)

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kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

I think that Putin hacking computers is tame compared to Gaddafi's viagra fueled rape squads. I guess the CIA writers are running out of scenarios. You have to admit it is hard to top the babies in the incubator stories. Those are good reasons for attacking a country and destroying its infrastructure. It is our Western Responsibility to Protect people in foreign lands from their evil governments.

ikosmos ikosmos's picture

I dunno. Peter Lavelle and his crew of regulars last Sunday really went at the whole Russophobia narrative and one thing that became quite clear is that the shrillness of the attack is viewed by Russians and Russia-friendly watchers as, perhaps, proof that the message is starting to fail and, hence, a heavier dosage is required to pacify the population here in the West. And everyone knows that addicts develop tolerance wrt the substance of their addiction, requiring ever larger doses, until ..... blam! Breakdown.

I would love to see Russian media give a little more detailed and intelligent attention to Canada. Our political elites are such whack jobs, coiffed-hair liberals, incipient fascists, and so on. Such juicy and rich targets. And they are so used to soft balls from the wimby media here.  RT had a nice piece on Canadian sales of weapons to Saudi Arabia. More of that would be great.

Of course the Russophobia would just get over-the-top; Russians as baby-killers, serial rapists, malignant, deformed pedophiles, etc., you name it. But how much worse could it be than it is right now? I mean, in personal life, I'm at the point where, if I hear any of this stuff, I just say that my soiled underwear is due to ... Putin. But I usually can't keep a straight face.

 

bekayne

"The Iraq War’s discredited cheerleaders". It hasn't seem to have hurt John Bolton.

jjuares

We live in such an irony free era. Here is s country that has arranged coups, interfered in elections, sent drones into other nations and bullied other countries to engage in embargoes and generally felt it was its god given right to intervene in other countries governance whenever it felt like. And now thissame nation is working itself into a lather because Russia hacked into some emails.

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bekayne wrote:

"The Iraq War’s discredited cheerleaders". It hasn't seem to have hurt John Bolton.

That's his point, I think.

ikosmos ikosmos's picture

jjuares wrote:
We live in such an irony free era. Here is s country that has arranged coups, interfered in elections, sent drones into other nations and bullied other countries to engage in embargoes and generally felt it was its god given right to intervene in other countries governance whenever it felt like. And now thissame nation is working itself into a lather because Russia hacked into some emails.

It's worse that that because the same technique of unsubstantiated claims - or simply lying about them - which was used to justify the invasion of Iraq, and, therefore, the subsequent deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, the displacement of millions of people, the destruction of billions in infrastructure, the subsequent creation of terrorist organizations that surpass, in horror, most previous terrorist organizations, as well as the theft and/or destruction of irreplaceable treasures of humanity's origin in the great river delta of the Tigris and the Euphrates Rivers, literally raping and pillaging a cradle of human civilization on planet earth, is also being used here. In the name of "national security" or an unwillingness to "reveal our methods", etc., etc.,  the public is "not allowed" to evaluate the evidence for themselves.

jjuares

ikosmos wrote:

jjuares wrote:
We live in such an irony free era. Here is s country that has arranged coups, interfered in elections, sent drones into other nations and bullied other countries to engage in embargoes and generally felt it was its god given right to intervene in other countries governance whenever it felt like. And now thissame nation is working itself into a lather because Russia hacked into some emails.

It's worse that that because the same technique of unsubstantiated claims - or simply lying about them - which was used to justify the invasion of Iraq, and, therefore, the subsequent deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, the displacement of millions of people, the destruction of billions in infrastructure, the subsequent creation of terrorist organizations that surpass, in horror, most previous terrorist organizations, as well as the theft and/or destruction of irreplaceable treasures of humanity's origin in the great river delta of the Tigris and the Euphrates Rivers, literally raping and pillaging a cradle of human civilization on planet earth, is also being used here. In the name of "national security" or an unwillingness to "reveal our methods", etc., etc.,  the public is "not allowed" to evaluate the evidence for themselves.


In 2006 Lancet estimated the direct and indirect death toll from the Iraq war at almost 700 000. God knows what the number is now. If there was any justice we would see Blair and Bush on trial for war crimes.

ikosmos ikosmos's picture

I left out, as well,  [not only the displacement of millions of people but also] the creation of a huge wave of refugees and migrants to the rest of the world, evoking right-wing and xenophobic politics across Europe in response, a wave which includes among its many thousands some few terrorists that get through, sowing mayhem and death. This "blessing", which Gadaffi predicted before his death, has come true.

Lies kill. Literally.

Martin N.

jjuares wrote:
ikosmos wrote:

jjuares wrote:
We live in such an irony free era. Here is s country that has arranged coups, interfered in elections, sent drones into other nations and bullied other countries to engage in embargoes and generally felt it was its god given right to intervene in other countries governance whenever it felt like. And now thissame nation is working itself into a lather because Russia hacked into some emails.

It's worse that that because the same technique of unsubstantiated claims - or simply lying about them - which was used to justify the invasion of Iraq, and, therefore, the subsequent deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, the displacement of millions of people, the destruction of billions in infrastructure, the subsequent creation of terrorist organizations that surpass, in horror, most previous terrorist organizations, as well as the theft and/or destruction of irreplaceable treasures of humanity's origin in the great river delta of the Tigris and the Euphrates Rivers, literally raping and pillaging a cradle of human civilization on planet earth, is also being used here. In the name of "national security" or an unwillingness to "reveal our methods", etc., etc.,  the public is "not allowed" to evaluate the evidence for themselves.


In 2006 Lancet estimated the direct and indirect death toll from the Iraq war at almost 700 000. God knows what the number is now. If there was any justice we would see Blair and Bush on trial for war crimes.

Blair, Bush and Putin.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Martin N. wrote:

jjuares wrote:

ikosmos wrote:

jjuares wrote:

We live in such an irony free era. Here is s country that has arranged coups, interfered in elections, sent drones into other nations and bullied other countries to engage in embargoes and generally felt it was its god given right to intervene in other countries governance whenever it felt like. And now thissame nation is working itself into a lather because Russia hacked into some emails.

It's worse that that because the same technique of unsubstantiated claims - or simply lying about them - which was used to justify the invasion of Iraq, and, therefore, the subsequent deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, the displacement of millions of people, the destruction of billions in infrastructure, the subsequent creation of terrorist organizations that surpass, in horror, most previous terrorist organizations, as well as the theft and/or destruction of irreplaceable treasures of humanity's origin in the great river delta of the Tigris and the Euphrates Rivers, literally raping and pillaging a cradle of human civilization on planet earth, is also being used here. In the name of "national security" or an unwillingness to "reveal our methods", etc., etc.,  the public is "not allowed" to evaluate the evidence for themselves.

In 2006 Lancet estimated the direct and indirect death toll from the Iraq war at almost 700 000. God knows what the number is now. If there was any justice we would see Blair and Bush on trial for war crimes.

Blair, Bush and Putin.

I seem to have missed the news about Russia being involved in the invasion of Iraq. Could you elaborate on Putin's role in that regime change invasion?

jjuares

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Martin N. wrote:

jjuares wrote:

ikosmos wrote:

jjuares wrote:

We live in such an irony free era. Here is s country that has arranged coups, interfered in elections, sent drones into other nations and bullied other countries to engage in embargoes and generally felt it was its god given right to intervene in other countries governance whenever it felt like. And now thissame nation is working itself into a lather because Russia hacked into some emails.

It's worse that that because the same technique of unsubstantiated claims - or simply lying about them - which was used to justify the invasion of Iraq, and, therefore, the subsequent deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, the displacement of millions of people, the destruction of billions in infrastructure, the subsequent creation of terrorist organizations that surpass, in horror, most previous terrorist organizations, as well as the theft and/or destruction of irreplaceable treasures of humanity's origin in the great river delta of the Tigris and the Euphrates Rivers, literally raping and pillaging a cradle of human civilization on planet earth, is also being used here. In the name of "national security" or an unwillingness to "reveal our methods", etc., etc.,  the public is "not allowed" to evaluate the evidence for themselves.

In 2006 Lancet estimated the direct and indirect death toll from the Iraq war at almost 700 000. God knows what the number is now. If there was any justice we would see Blair and Bush on trial for war crimes.

Blair, Bush and Putin.

I seem to have missed the news about Russia being involved in the invasion of Iraq. Could you elaborate on Putin's role in that regime change invasion?


If I remember correctly Russia opposed the war and they certainly did not participate in the invasion. The war criminals are Blair and Bush.

6079_Smith_W

Maybe he thinks there's some crossover, or some retroactive stuff going on.

But no. The U.S. and Britain pretty clearly own that one. Russia wasn't even at the Paris conference, so they are about the only ones you CAN'T blame for that.

 

NDPP

'Our Coalition Must Endure': 5000+ US TROOPS EMBED WITH COALITION FORCES TO STRIKE MOSUL

https://www.rt.com/usa/371553-us-embed-with-coalition-fight-mosul/

"More than 5,000 US forces stationed in Iraq are embedding with other coalition fighters on the frontlines, where the Islamic State has been taking control of major cities like Mosul. As of August 2016, over 25 nations [INCLUDING CANADA*] make up the coalition forces in Operation Inherent Resolve, but the vast majority of the troops still come from the United States.

Together, the coalition is the largest force in Iraq since the initial US invasion of Iraq in 2003."

*And not a protester to be found here. The imperial dog whistlers are too busy with Aleppo...