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6079_Smith_W

Here's why they did it:

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On Tuesday, officials released a statement saying that the government of Ecuador “respects the principle of non-intervention in the internal affairs of other states” and had cut off the internet access available to Assange because “in recent weeks, WikiLeaks has published a wealth of documents, impacting on the US election campaign”.

The statement also reaffirmed the asylum granted to Assange and reiterated its intention “to safeguard his life and physical integrity until he reaches a safe place”.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/oct/19/wikileaks-ecuador-julian-a...

They also said in the letter that the action does not prevent Wikileaks from carrying out its journalistic (sic) activities.

mmphosis

Official Communiqué (cancilleria.gob.ec)

NorthReport

Wikileaks and/or Assange are now discredited in the eyes of a lot of former supporters. Too bad!

6079_Smith_W

Yup, it is too bad. Guess whose fault it is:

http://www.kitguru.net/channel/jon-martindale/anonymous-distances-itself...

That was four years ago.

Frankly given the stunt he was pulling and the quality (and veracity) of what he was releasing, I think the Ecuadorians did him a favour with this intervention.

NorthReport

 

WikiLeaks and the Oily Washington Press Tongue out

A bunch of reporters got caught up in the Podesta flypaper. How bad is it, really?

 

 

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/john-podesta-emails-wikil...

swallow

Ecuador is a fascinating new player in international politics. It deserves more attention. It's part of the Bolivarian Alternative of the Americas (ALBA) and has played a similar foreign policy role to Venezuela under Chavez and Bolivia under Morales, but more quietly. In sheltering Assange it struck a solid blow for freedom of information. In cutting him off, it reflects the growing consensus on the left that Assange has become a clumsy partisan campaigner, and drifted from the original freedom of information mission that Wikileaks pursued so bravely in its early days. I don't know what the future holds in Venezuela, but countries like Ecuador, less flamboyantly, may be the ones to carry on the ALBA mission of presenting an alternative to colonialist policies peddled by governments in the North. 

6079_Smith_W

Not surprising that the Americans gave a bit of a nudge though:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-urged-ecuador-act-against-assang...

Of course Ecuador is doing the right thing by continuing to offer asylum. But the actions that made them come to this decision is kind of reminiscent of this oldie but goodie:

https://vimeo.com/70753317

NDPP

Silencing Assage: 'US Establishment in Panic Over Clinton WikiLeaks Emails'

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/363332-wikileaks-interest-assange-ecuador-cli...

"The US establishment is panicking over the release of Clinton's emails. 'It is an effort to expose a record behind Hillary Clinton, which is a way of informing the world exactly who this politician is..."

swallow

Despite the apocolyptic rhetoric, seem to me that the US establishment is giggling over it, feels entirely unthreatened, and has smothered the more damaging relevations by focussing on the trivia. 

6079_Smith_W

If there were any damaging revelations to be found they would be all over the media. They have worked as hard as they could to make the email scandal look like treason. The worst that seems to be in this latest batch is reporters playing sycophant, and Clinton explaining how politicians talk to people.

For all the bluster, for all the misrepresentation of information (like the "open borders" comment last night) and even given the one proven forgery that was uncovered, this campaign is a dud.

6079_Smith_W

Of course there is also this astonishingly sensible response (that gets to the problem everyone seems to be ignoring) from someone who was smeared in one of those leaked emails:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/larry-lessig-has-a-very-goo...

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I’m a big believer in leaks for the public interest. That’s why I support Snowden, and why I believe the President should pardon him. But I can’t for the life of me see the public good in a leak like this — at least one that reveals no crime or violation of any important public policy.

We all deserve privacy. The burdens of public service are insane enough without the perpetual threat that every thought shared with a friend becomes Twitter fodder.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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But I can’t for the life of me see the public good in a leak like this — at least one that reveals no crime or violation of any important public policy.

He makes a good point.

"Someone talked smack about someone else" isn't really "whistleblowing" in any real sense.

mmphosis
NDPP

Digital Information Warfare: WikiLeaks, Assange and the US Presidential Elections  - by Binoy Kampmark

https://t.co/W3w39kbEeF

"As the Clinton campaign emphasizes the stolen character of the data in a hope of some miraculous rite of purification, WikiLeaks remains committed in refocusing attacks on one of the least attractive contenders for the White House in US political history.

Substance does count more than form, and the messages are there to prove it."

NDPP

Unspeakable America

http://blackagendareport.com/clinton_trump_unspeakable_america

"Having no real defense against the obvious, the Clinton campaign and most of the corporat emedia painted Wikileaks as an arm of Russian intelligence. The purpose of this New McCarthyism was to inoculate the public against believing Clinton's own words, as they were spoken to bankers,

and at the same time discredit Trump's position that the US should seek better relations with Russia and stop helping jihadists in Syria..."

NDPP

'We Are Nervous About This': Team Clinton Weighs Email Server Jokes in #Podesta 15 Release

https://www.rt.com/usa/363746-podesta-clinton-wikileaks-emails/

"Wikileaks has released its 15th batch of emails from Hillary Clinton's campaign chair John Podesta. Here are the most shocking Wikileaks/Podesta emails so far..."

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

..i wondered into this thread in order to highlight the agreement. and now i'm listening to the klein greenwald interview. interesting discussion. keep it up! :)  edit

TiSA Agreement Leaks Show Corporations Pushing Privatization of Public Services

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WikiLeaks has released 3 chapters of the highly secretive Trade in Services Agreement that is currently being negotiated among 50 different countries. But as usual, the big players are the EU and the US, that are dominating the talks. This is not a light deal, the Trade and Services Agreement is also known as TiSA. It represents two thirds of the world’s GDP and is supposed to deregulate all kinds of services, including telecommunications, shipping, air sea transport, energy mining, and financial services. There are too many to mention all of them here. But the WikiLeaks files released last week also show that the European Union is pushing negotiators to complete the agreement before the next US president takes office in January. Opponents of this agreement have long argued that TiSA would significantly undermine democracy and economic development for less developed countries.

6079_Smith_W

Glenn Greenwald:

"You'd have to be a sociopath' to indiscriminately publish all leaked material"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/greenwald-the-investigators-1.3816510

 

josh
NDPP

Release: THe Podesta Emails Part 16

https://t.co/wzxeh70oUm

 

6079_Smith_W wrote:

Glenn Greenwald:

"You'd have to be a sociopath' to indiscriminately publish all leaked material"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/greenwald-the-investigators-1.3816510

 

https://www.sott.net/article/272133-Why-is-billionaire-co-founder-of-eBa...

Given that little more than 1% of Snowden's leaked materials have been released, methinks GG doth protest too much...

 

NDPP

"Is Julian Assange the catspaw of Vladimir Putin?" LOL same old same old...

6079_Smith_W

He said indiscriminately, NDPP. That means without paying attention to what they are doing, and that is how they have been doing it. One example:

http://www.towleroad.com/2016/08/wikileaks-outed-gay-men/

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/b70da83fd111496dbdf015acbb7987fb/private-...

 

NDPP

Whenever US imperialism declares an enemy target, Smith can always be counted upon to explain to 'progressives' why it should be theirs as well. Slava Ukraini Smith!

6079_Smith_W

Or counted on to point out what words mean:

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in·dis·crim·i·nateˌindəˈskrimənət/

adjectiveadjective: indiscriminate

done at random or without careful judgment.

Doesn't mean dump the whole thing, NDPP. And don't be silly. Is Glenn Greenwald one of your imperialists now too?


ikosmos ikosmos's picture

Julian Assange says “1,700 emails in Hillary Clinton’s collection” proves she sold weapons to ISIS in Syria [Video]Then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton knew that the US was sending arms from Libya to Syria in 2011, a year before the Benghazi attacks.

Hilary Clinton should be in the dock for Crimes Against Humanity, as the list of atrocities is getting longer and longer. What is also clear now is that Clinton, knowingly, provided arms to Qatar and Saudi Arabia [while Sec of State] while the latter were providing funding, training, and arms to the barbarous jihadi terrorists in Syria. For that alone she should be in jail.

God only knows what disgusting atrocities she would order should she become POTUS.

NDPP

#Podesta Latest: Wikileaks Releases 17th Batch of Clinton Campaign Chair Emails

https://www.rt.com/usa/363901-clinton-emails-podesta-leak/

"The latest leaks include emails in which Podesta suggests going 'postal on the press' and concern over the contents of Clinton's Wall Street speeches..."

6079_Smith_W

Now all the journalists are the enemy and they are the only real ones. WTF is right.

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

Branding is important.

josh

They have to be in sync with the Trump campaign.

NDPP

Michael Moore on the Detention of WikiLeaks Publisher Julian Assange

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/790394830979465216

NDPP

The Podesta Emails - Part 18

https://t.co/wzxeh70oUm

 

 

6079_Smith_W

NDPP wrote:

Michael Moore on the Detention of WikiLeaks Publisher Julian Assange

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/790394830979465216

Look NDPP, I can appreciate that the US and Sweden are exploiting this, and basically obstructing justice, but perhaps Assange should have thought twice and kept it in his pants rather than deciding to jump on a sleeping woman and start having sex with her. It is sexual assault.

And maybe he should think twice about exploiting his organization which is potentially everything Moore says, but is currently being used as a cheap get out of jail free card.

 

NDPP

Justice For Assange

http://justice4assange.com

6079_Smith_W

Glad you agree that (evasion of justice, actually) is what this is all about. I'd add that Assange is basically playing the U.S. election and the reputation of his organization to that self-centred end.

 

NDPP

'Israel Is Depressing': Clinton Adviser Vents Frustration in Latest Podesta Emails

https://www.rt.com/usa/364549-podesta-emails-21-wikileaks/

"Release: The Podesta Emails Part 21

NDPP

The Podesta Emails, Part 22

https://t.co/wzxeh70oUm

 

Julian Assange Telephone Speech For CISL (Oct 26, 2016)

https://youtu.be/wP5s0ECDpdI

Transcript included [bad sound quality]

 

Inside the Invisible Government: John Pilger

https://t.co/zkL6Y6gVqt

"As WikiLeaks has revealed, it was only when Syrian leader Bashar al Assad in 2009 rejected an oil pipeline running through his country from Qatar to Europe, that he was attacked. From that moment, the CIA planned to destroy the government of Syria with jihadist fanatics - the same fanatics currently holding the people of Mosul and eastern Aleppo hostage."

NDPP

Leaked Documents Detail How Wall Street Bought the Clintons

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/28/clin-o28.html

"Documents released by WikiLeaks Wednesday given the fullest picture so far of the way that Bill and Hillary Clinton built up their private fortune during the years after they left the White House in 2001.

Hundreds of memos and emails detail how corporations and banks were recruited to funnel millions into the for-profit activities of the enterprise that a top aide, Douglas Band, called 'Bill Clinton Inc'."

iyraste1313

Inside the Invisible Government: John Pilger...

thanks for this, an vitally important document eventually to be presented to a Federal Court to sue the CBC in Canada for complicity!! 

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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eventually to be presented to a Federal Court to sue the CBC in Canada for complicity!!

So you feel it should go through civil court?  Because that's where you "sue" somebody.

What kind of damages are you expecting the Court to order?  And payable to whom?

iyraste1313

Yes it would be through the federal Court, based on provivions of the Charter, Canada´s anti terrorism act, and international law on crimes against the peace........it would be a judicial review both of the actions of the CBC and the failure of the CRTC to maintain standards based on Canadian values, its mandate.

Damages? Perhaps to the families of the millions who have died for the gross deceptions of the CBC as per the John Pilger article, perhaps jail sentences of those in the CBC held responsible!

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Damages? Perhaps to the families of the millions who have died for the gross deceptions of the CBC as per the John Pilger article

Would there be any onus on the plaintiffs in the Federal Court to show that millions have died directly because of the actions (or inactions) of the CBC?

And given that we all fund them, are we not all complicit?

Are those of us who haven't chosen to speak out anonymously on the internet complicit?

NDPP

Release: The Podesta Emails - Part 23

https://t.co/wzxeh70oUm

 

josh

NDPP wrote:

Release: The Podesta Emails - Part 23

https://t.co/wzxeh70oUm

 

 

If Trump wins, he may name Assange ambassador to Russia.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

Would he enjoy diplomatic immunity?  That could work out well for him.

And I bet Russia could provide him with some sweet, sweet hacks, in exchange for a little "consideration". 

NDPP

Assange: Clinton and ISIS Funded By Same Money, Trump Won't Be Allowed To Win [John Pilger EXCLUSIVE] (and vid)

https://www.rt.com/news/365299-assange-pilger-saudi-clinton/

"In a 2014 email made public by Assange's WikiLeaks last month, Hillary Clinton, who had served as secretary of state until the year before, urges John Podesta, then an advisor to Barack Obama, to 'bring pressure' on Qatar and Saudi Arabia, 'which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other Sunni groups."

 

iyraste1313

Would there be any onus on the plaintiffs in the Federal Court to show that millions have died directly because of the actions (or inactions) of the CBC?

from wsws.org........

The Nuremberg precedent

The role of propaganda and propagandists figured prominently at the Nuremberg war crimes tribunal, convened to render judgment on the Nazi leaders following World War II. The tribunal was an institution organized by the victorious Allied governments, serving in the final analysis the ruling classes of those countries.

Nonetheless, in their arguments US prosecutors set forth a democratic legal principle derived from the international experience of a half-century of carnage: that planning and launching an aggressive war constituted a criminal act and that those who helped prepare such a war through their propaganda efforts were as culpable as those who drew up the battle plans or manufactured the munitions....

...the attempts to ridicule such precedents, perhaps yes suggest complicity....

 

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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Would there be any onus on the plaintiffs in the Federal Court to show that millions have died directly because of the actions (or inactions) of the CBC?

Yes, surely.

Though not necessarily "millions".  Thousands, hundreds, dozens, or even just one should be sufficient.

But don't focus on the number.  Focus on the whole "directly" part.  That's what's going to be the lynchpin.

bekayne

iyraste1313 wrote:

Would there be any onus on the plaintiffs in the Federal Court to show that millions have died directly because of the actions (or inactions) of the CBC?

What would that be? Not shilling for Dr. Hardial Bains when they had the chance?

NDPP

New Republic: The Most Important WikiLeaks Revelation Isn't About Hillary Clinton

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/793226710057619458

"What John Podesta's emails from 2008 reveal about the way power works in the Democratic Party."

No surprise either, that Obama consigliere and the man Canadian International Trade Minister Chrystia Freeland calls her "guru", the man who helped break Glass Steagall and a prime advocate of 'bail ins' and financial deregulation, former World Bank head who infamously wrote: 'I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage countries is impeccable and we should face up to that..', Larry Summers figures prominently in this NR article.

iyraste1313

The real scandal of the 650,000 Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin emails hidden on the laptop or laptops at the home of Anthony Wiener, estranged husband of Huma Abedin, is not that Hillary might have lied under oath about turning over all her emails. The real scandal is that the most damaging secrets of America’s invisible government, its parallel “deep state” acting uncontrolled since at least the time of Vice president and former CIA chief, George H.W. Bush, in the 1980’s, could come to light. If that happens, “All the King’s Horses and All the King’s Men” will face charges of treason or worse. That just might be an appropriate time to begin a clean out of the Augean Stables today known as political Washington.

F. William Engdahl is strategic risk consultant and lecturer, he holds a degree in politics from Princeton University and is a best-selling author on oil and geopolitics, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook.”
http://journal-neo.org/2016/11/04/the-real-huma-gate-crime-is-the-muslim-brotherhood/

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