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josh
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The Wikileaks material was not catastrophic regardless. There's nothing in there we didn't already know. She sucks up to her donors, and is a typical two-faced politician.

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If the contents of her bankster speeches had been divulged at the height of her primary race against Bernie Sanders, Clinton would never have won the nomination, because they reveal her as a methodical, cynical liar...

Why weren't they released earlier then?  Did they not have them in their possession at that time?


6079_Smith_W
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Clinton has long been the favorite of the corporate media and her best TV friends are at NBC.

I think there are quite a few serious journalists who would disagree with that claim.

The only thing I am wondering is why it took this for people to start looking seriously at Donald Trump, not his inciting violence, promises to deport people, rewrite laws and his being completely unqualified for the job from day one.

By contrast, Clinton has been raked over the coals for actions that pale in comparison to Trump's as well as the actions of past presidents.

This latest batch of wikileaks stuff shows how penny ante this stuff is.

And if you'll recall Wikileaks DID release far more damaging information just before the Democratic convention. Seems to me that is the worst they had, and at this point Julian Assange is just spinning, and pissing off even those who are on his side like Alex Jones.

 

 


Mr. Magoo
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The comments on the tweet that's flogging that shirt suggest two things:

1.  a lot of people seem to think that WikiLeaks just took the low road, kind of like PETA.

2.  a lot of people seem to still be furious at Bill Clinton, and/or Hillary Clinton.


6079_Smith_W
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What other people think is immaterial.

I don't think there is any question about them taking the low road, if they are going to talk about women as "bimbos".

Again, both surprising and telling, considering what Julian Assange did to wind up being a guest in the embassy.

 

 


Mr. Magoo
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What other people think is immaterial.

I just find the two camps interesting, in that one is disgusted by either the crass sexism, and/or the political opportunism of this shirt.  And the other just really, really needs to let of some steam about Clinton, 16 years later.

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I don't think there is any question about them taking the low road, if they are going to talk about women as "bimbos".

They point out about twenty times in those tweets that it's actually Colin Powell who used that term in a hacked e-mail. 

They only printed it on t-shirts to sell for money and to support Trump.


6079_Smith_W
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Okay, I wasn't aware that if Colin Powell said it that makes it okay. I'm sure women everywhere will  be just fine with that.

And lose some steam, or perhaps lose their minds at the thought of Hillary becoming president. Not surprising considering they haven't yet accepted that Obama was, and he's just about done.

 

 


Mr. Magoo
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Not surprising considering they haven't yet accepted that Obama was, and he's just about done.

I would love it so much if Obama, some time in early January, asked a staff member to fire up Photoshop and make him a Kenyan birth certificate, then "accidentally" leak it on Reddit on his last day in office.

Maybe it's cruel to want to torment people with nothing much else to care about, but when one starts barking and then they all just start barking, that's funny.


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Wikileaks: The Two Faces of Hillary Clinton on Syria - by Sharmine Narwani

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/362819-clinton-emails-syria-wikileaks/

"A 2012 email released by Wikileaks last year shows that behind the scenes, Clinton's State Department was calculating its Syria policy using entirely different metrics than its publicly stated narrative of supporting reforms and rejecting violence.

Arming a Syrian rebellion from outside the country was already a consideration from the very beginning, according to a recent Wikileaks release of a June 2013 speech by Clinton. Certainly we know that by early 2012, the Obama and Erdogan administrations had struck a deal to establish a rat-line transporting weapons and ammunition from Libya to Syria - via the CIA and MI6 and funded by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar."


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I am unsure of the title:

Clinton used soft-handed approach in Wall Street speeches released by Wikileaks

or

Wikileaks releases full transcripts of Clinton speeches to Goldman Sachs

Three transcripts released as part of the hack of her campaign chairman's emails did not contain any new bombshells showing she was unduly influenced by contributions from the banking industry, as her primary rival Bernie Sanders had suggested.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/clinton-wikileaks-speeches-1.3807304

Speech transcripts show Clinton avoided blaming Wall Street (ap.org)

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Aide Planted Anti-Bank Comments in One Paid Clinton Speech to Throw Reporters Off the Scent (theintercept.com)

Leaked Hillary Clinton Emails: Could Bernie Sanders Have Won Primary If Leak Occurred Earlier? (democracynow.org)


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iyraste1313
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of course...no smoking guns...from the CBC TV news....

Hillary Clinton tells Goldman Sachs that a no-fly zone in Syria will “kill a lot of Syrians”ALEX CHRISTOFOROU 8 hours ago 0 221Hillary Clinton confirms, yet again, that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are funding the "Jihadis" in Syria.

  • In a June 4 Goldman Sachs speech leaked by Wikileaks, Hillary Clinton confirms what is becoming the worst kept secret in geo-politics…that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are behind the jihadists in Syria.

Hillary Clinton is stating again, for the record, that Islamic State is funded and supported by US allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar.....

...yes let's not bother to report this on the CBC.......which means that Canada is complicit and according to our own antiterrorist act....Trudeau must be put into prison for life!! No this is not worth bothering to talk about!

 


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Citigroup Chose Obama’s 2008 Cabinet, WikiLeaks Document RevealsBy Tom EleyGlobal Research, October 16, 2016World Socialist Web Site

One month before the presidential election of 2008, the giant Wall Street bank Citigroup submitted to the Obama campaign a list of its preferred candidates for cabinet positions in an Obama administration. This list corresponds almost exactly to the eventual composition of Barack Obama’s cabinet.

The memorandum, revealed by WikiLeaks in a recent document release from the email account of John Podesta, who currently serves as Hillary Clinton’s campaign chair, was written by Michael Froman, who was then an executive with Citigroup and currently serves as US trade representative. The email is dated Oct. 6, 2008 and bears the subject line “Lists.” It went to Podesta a month before he was named chairman of President-Elect Obama’s transition team.

The email was sent at the height of the financial meltdown that erupted after the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers on September 15. Even as Citigroup and its Wall Street counterparts were dragging the US and world economy into its deepest crisis since the 1930s, they remained, as the email shows, the real power behind the façade of American democracy and its electoral process.....

....of course this is not newsworthy, according to the CBC's expert panelists and investigative reporters!

 


Mr. Magoo
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which means that Canada is complicit and according to our own antiterrorist act....Trudeau must be put into prison for life!!


swallow
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iyraste1313 wrote:

Citigroup Chose Obama’s 2008 Cabinet, WikiLeaks Document RevealsBy Tom EleyGlobal Research, October 16, 2016World Socialist Web Site

....of course this is not newsworthy, according to the CBC's expert panelists and investigative reporters!

Normally anything headlined "Global Research" is going to be spin. But this is actually an important story. Why? Not becuase Citibank dicatated the cabinet - that e-mailca me from an Obama team member who worked for Citibank - proof of what we've long known, the revolving door bwtween both parties' operatives and big business. This is important, the New Republic argues, because of what it says about how the Democratic party operates - and why the battle for what sort of cabinet President Clinton will have is at stake right now. 


NDPP
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"Julian Assange's internet link has been intentionally severed by a state party. We have activated the appropriate contingency plans."

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/787889195507417088

Must have been those transcripts of Queen Killary to Goldman Sachs...


6079_Smith_W
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Did he reach his bandwidth cap on the Ecuadorean Embassy guest wifi?

http://mashable.com/2016/10/17/julian-assange-internet-down/#pUvldRLLTaqP

Maybe the ambassador had to kick him off the dialup so he could order pizza.

As you can see, there has been a worldwide call to arms over this fascist clampdown. This is in fact the dead man switch to indicate he has either been killed or arrested by Hillary:

https://www.rt.com/viral/363016-wikileaks-codes-assange-death/

 

 


NorthReport
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What a shame!  Laughing

Internet cutoff is just the latest trouble for WikiLeaks’ Assange

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/national-security/...


6079_Smith_W
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Actually it does really suck, and I do have some sympathy for the guy - especially him being in need of an MRI. And although he is responsible for himself winding up in there it is a shame that the governments involved are themselves obstructing justice regarding the assualt allegations. They could compromise if they wanted to.

If he wasn't such an arrogant, self-centred jerk I'd probably feel a lot more sympathy. Him being willing to throw the outcome of the U.S. election up in the air because of his personal vendetta, and gambling that Trump won't want to extradite him certainly doesn't help either.


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6079_Smith_W
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Here's why they did it:

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On Tuesday, officials released a statement saying that the government of Ecuador “respects the principle of non-intervention in the internal affairs of other states” and had cut off the internet access available to Assange because “in recent weeks, WikiLeaks has published a wealth of documents, impacting on the US election campaign”.

The statement also reaffirmed the asylum granted to Assange and reiterated its intention “to safeguard his life and physical integrity until he reaches a safe place”.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/oct/19/wikileaks-ecuador-julian-a...

They also said in the letter that the action does not prevent Wikileaks from carrying out its journalistic (sic) activities.


mmphosis
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Official Communiqué (cancilleria.gob.ec)


NorthReport
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Wikileaks and/or Assange are now discredited in the eyes of a lot of former supporters. Too bad!

6079_Smith_W
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Yup, it is too bad. Guess whose fault it is:

http://www.kitguru.net/channel/jon-martindale/anonymous-distances-itself...

That was four years ago.

Frankly given the stunt he was pulling and the quality (and veracity) of what he was releasing, I think the Ecuadorians did him a favour with this intervention.


NorthReport
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WikiLeaks and the Oily Washington Press Tongue out

A bunch of reporters got caught up in the Podesta flypaper. How bad is it, really?

 

 

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/john-podesta-emails-wikil...


swallow
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Ecuador is a fascinating new player in international politics. It deserves more attention. It's part of the Bolivarian Alternative of the Americas (ALBA) and has played a similar foreign policy role to Venezuela under Chavez and Bolivia under Morales, but more quietly. In sheltering Assange it struck a solid blow for freedom of information. In cutting him off, it reflects the growing consensus on the left that Assange has become a clumsy partisan campaigner, and drifted from the original freedom of information mission that Wikileaks pursued so bravely in its early days. I don't know what the future holds in Venezuela, but countries like Ecuador, less flamboyantly, may be the ones to carry on the ALBA mission of presenting an alternative to colonialist policies peddled by governments in the North. 


6079_Smith_W
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Not surprising that the Americans gave a bit of a nudge though:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-urged-ecuador-act-against-assang...

Of course Ecuador is doing the right thing by continuing to offer asylum. But the actions that made them come to this decision is kind of reminiscent of this oldie but goodie:

https://vimeo.com/70753317


NDPP
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Silencing Assage: 'US Establishment in Panic Over Clinton WikiLeaks Emails'

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/363332-wikileaks-interest-assange-ecuador-cli...

"The US establishment is panicking over the release of Clinton's emails. 'It is an effort to expose a record behind Hillary Clinton, which is a way of informing the world exactly who this politician is..."


swallow
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Despite the apocolyptic rhetoric, seem to me that the US establishment is giggling over it, feels entirely unthreatened, and has smothered the more damaging relevations by focussing on the trivia. 


6079_Smith_W
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If there were any damaging revelations to be found they would be all over the media. They have worked as hard as they could to make the email scandal look like treason. The worst that seems to be in this latest batch is reporters playing sycophant, and Clinton explaining how politicians talk to people.

For all the bluster, for all the misrepresentation of information (like the "open borders" comment last night) and even given the one proven forgery that was uncovered, this campaign is a dud.


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