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Congress Grovels Before the CIA As It Escalates 'Russian Hacking' Hysteria

http://wsws.org/en/articles/2017/01/06/pers-j06.html

"Given the incessant campaign to transform the alleged hacking into a pretext for war with nuclear-armed Russia, let us conduct a reality-check. What was atually uncovered by the hacking into the DNC and the Clinton campaign? The material released by WikiLeaks exposed two major facets of the 2016 Presidential Campaign..."

 

US Spy Chief Claims 'Unprecedented' Russian Involvement in US Vote

http://news.antiwar.com/2017/01/05/us-spy-chief-claims-unprecedented-rus...

"Promises to provide evidence sometime next week."

 

New Intelligence Report Adds No Evidence of 'Russian Hacking'

http://moonofalabama.org/2017/01/new-intelligence-report-adds-no-evidenc...

"After Hillary Clinton was defeated in the US presidential election the relevant powers launched a campaign to delegitimize the President-elect Donald Trump. But there is a problem. There is no real evidence that a 'hack' ever happened. There is no evidence Russia is involved.

None at all."

 

US Officials Say Russian Approval of Trump Win is 'Evidence' of Hacking

http://news.antiwar.com/2017/01/05/us-officials-say-russia-approval-of-t...

"The 'evidence' that Russia was behind the 'hacking'...appears to have been the cornerstone of the entire narrative - that Russiaw was happy Trump won the election."

NDPP

Who Do You Believe America?

http://twitter.com/JohnJHorwood/status/817180166942298113

83% WikiLeaks

17% US Intel Officials

josh

An online poll? Well that settles it. Shut down the investigation everybody.

NDPP

RT News - Russian Hacking: Is That A Fact? (and vid)

http://rt.com/shows/news/372918-rtnews-january-07-17msk

"A newly-released US intelligence report claims Russia interfered in last year's US election in a state-ordered campaign - but the report's findings are based on 'level of confidence' not fact.

'US government's, declassified "Russian hacking" report has the curious disclaimer that it is based on watching TV and reading Tweets.' - @WikiLeaks

*MUST Watch

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

josh wrote:

An online poll? Well that settles it. Shut down the investigation everybody.

No need to the US intelligence has declared that it can tell what Russia is doing by reading its propaganda. Who needs hard facts Putin and his ministers publicly said they liked Trump better than Clinton so that has been taken as proof that the hacking was directed from the top. 

But of course some people actually believe that Putin and the Russian States goal is to undermine the US led democratic order. All true believers know that Russian democracy is not the same as our democracy or the US democracy. We have REAL democracy while everyone who opposes the US led order is undemocratic and evil. 

All hail the Kremlin they have obviously achieved the height of propaganda since the US intelligence agencies claim that RT and Sputnik actually played a role in Trump's election.  Not the CNN and Fox etc etc who covered him relentlessly during the primaries while totally ignoring the Sanders campaign.  I am astounded at the influence of RT and Sputnik and am impressed that their presence in the American TV market made the difference in Trump's election. 

I wonder why this station is so ineffective in comparison? 

http://www.rferl.org/

 

NDPP

'Clinton Email Leak Done By Insider Not Russia' - Frmr UK Diplomat & Whistleblower

https://youtu.be/w3DvaVrRweY

"I think it's hilarious...I thought it [US 'intelligence report on Russian hacking] must be a joke. It is an astonishing piece of work that contains no evidence whatsoever. Of course the reason it contains no evidence whatsoever is there is no evidence - because the assertions it is making are factually untrue. So that there couldn't be evidence..."

NDPP

The Saker: The Real Significance of the ODNI Report

http://thesaker.is/the-real-significance-of-the-odni-report-on-russias-e...

 

NDPP

WikiLeaks Press Conference Tackles ODNI Report (LIVE STREAM)

http://rt.com/news/373071-wikileaks-odni-report-hacking

"WikiLeaks is hosting a press conference in response to allegations by US intelligence agencies that it worked with Russia to leak information to influence the US presidential elections. The press conference, streamed on Periscope from the Ecuadorian embassy in London, got underway at 14:00 GMT on Monday, with WikiLeaks seeking questions from social media users via #AskWL on Twitter..."

The Press Conference has now ended. However the RT link provided is live and the conference is archived. Starts @ 9: 35

ikosmos ikosmos's picture

Fox News tells it like it is.

 

Bwa ha ha ha. The Stupid! It burns!!

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

NDPP wrote:

The Saker: The Real Significance of the ODNI Report

http://thesaker.is/the-real-significance-of-the-odni-report-on-russias-e...

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So the Russian don’t like Hillary and they say so.  What’s the big deal?  Hillary was the most incompetent and russophobic Secretary of State in US history and had she been elected the risks of thermonuclear war would have been immense.  Does it really surprise anybody that most Russians (including yours truly) absolutely hate, despise and fear her?  What is Trump suppose to do now: call Putin and tell him “Vladimir, please tell RT not to criticize US public figures?!”.  And what was Trump supposed to answer if Putin replied to him “Donald, the USA has been deeply interfering inside Russia, you ran our country in the 1990s, you rigged out elections, your snipers shot our people from the roof of your embassy in 1993 and your media has been demonizing me personally for years now – and you want me to tone down RT?!”.

I really liked this analyse.  I was gobsmacked when I read the "intelligence" report and realized they were complaining that RT was covering the election and being biased against Clinton. Was any media in the US unbiased during the election?  

josh

Finally, as if there were any doubt, wikileaks has revealed themselves to be a total Kremlin shill:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/819037478627770368

 

 

 

NDPP

josh wrote:

Finally, as if there were any doubt, wikileaks has revealed themselves to be a total Kremlin shill:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/819037478627770368

 

Or revealed a document which is clearly bogus

josh

There was no reason for wikileaks to comment on it, and to comment on it in such a definiitive manner.  The fact that it did speaks volumes.

 

NDPP

"Trump understanding the difference between a leak and a 'leak' (a pseudo-leak or plant with pet media by CIA/Admin)

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/819198110924685312

WikiLeaks has every reason to comment on it. They are truth tellers. Their enemies are lie-tellers.  Proven. Repeatedly. 

josh

Yes, Trump is quite familiar with leaks.

josh

WikiLeaks has every reason to comment on it. They are truth tellers. Their enemies are lie-tellers. Proven. Repeatedly. 

 

Yes, all the truth that rubles can buy.

6079_Smith_W

Don't forget taking a leak. There's that too.

Though this is not the only time Assange has complained about other people doing the thing he assumes only he has the authority to:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/01/06/wikileaks_takes_a_bold...

 

NDPP

Assange Blasts Soros and USAID Over Russian Propaganda Campaign (and vid)

https://www.rt.com/viral/373253-assange-reddit-soros-usaid/

"Assange detailed the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project's role in the Putin framing and how the Maryland-based organization is funded by George Soros and USAID and 'focuses exclusively on negative stories about Russia and former Soviet states.'

Assange drew comparisons between those narratives and WikiLeaks in relation to trust. 'One is funded by a government attacking another government,' while WikiLeaks is 'funded by readers' and has a track record of publishing accurate information.

When asked about the Snowden documents and the way in which they were released by journalists, Assange said 'more than 97% of the Snowden docs have been censored, as a result."

NDPP

"Is UK Intervening in the US Election?

 Former UK spy Steele (MI6) wrote Trump 'dossier'.

 BBC launched '2nd dossier' story via MoD linked journo.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/819685930546171905

josh

Someone should tell Wikileaks the U.S. election is long over. Maybe Putin can pass the word to them.

sherpa-finn

Actually, if the allegations of sexual assualt didn't do it, well, the latest buzz about Assange's suspect relationship with neo-con nationalist forces in Russia is taking the shine off his reputation with progressives around the world. 

Assange faces questions on links to Russia from Reddit users: 

“For someone who claims they’re all about transparency and openness, your answers here really don’t live up to those lofty ideals. Terse one-word answers, ignoring really pertinent questions, what exactly is the point of this AMA?”

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jan/11/julian-assange-accused-of-...

 

NDPP

Telegraph: UK Government Approved Funneling Trump 'Dirty Dossier' to FBI

https://twitter.com/WLTaskForce/status/819944132521132032

josh

https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/status/819630102787059713

Obama has now granted Chelsea Manning clemency.

ikosmos ikosmos's picture

All those who have been cheerleading the death of Julian Assange may just get their necrophiliac wish. Didn't he state publicly that he would turn himself over to the niceties of US dungeons and torture chambers if Chelsea Manning was freed from her abuse and torture in US prison?

Should be interesting.

pookie

ikosmos wrote:

All those who have been cheerleading the death of Julian Assange may just get their necrophiliac wish. Didn't he state publicly that he would turn himself over to the niceties of US dungeons and torture chambers if Chelsea Manning was freed from her abuse and torture in US prison?

Should be interesting.

Don't hold your breath.

pookie
josh

What a surprise.  The fraud exposed as a fraud.  He didn't originally say "immediately."  He simply said granted clemency.

 

pookie

I'd honestly have more respect for him if he just said "of course I didn't mean it.  what are you, nuts?"

But to try to argue that his original offer was made in good faith is just....embarrassing.

NDPP

'Assange Standing By Everything He Said' - Lawyer on WikiLeaks' Founder US Extradition Promise

https://youtu.be/-B3aBWbHdiY

Melinda Taylor, lawyer for Assange joins RT

 

 

NDPP

dp

 

pookie

Is that interview typical of the style of RT?  

I can't imagine even someone as lacking in journalistic skills, as, say, Chuck Todd letting someone get away with saying "Assange's position has not changed" with nary a counter-question.

josh

pookie wrote:

Is that interview typical of the style of RT?  

I can't imagine even someone as lacking in journalistic skills, as, say, Chuck Todd letting someone get away with saying "Assange's position has not changed" with nary a counter-question.

Similar to Fox. Both are propaganda outlets.

NDPP

Murray: Stunning Admission From Obama on WikiLeaks

https://t.co/hXo5Ucr0o5

"Most crucially of all Obama refers to 'The DNC emails that were leaked.' Note 'leaked' and not 'hacked'. Yet the media has persisted with this nonsense 'Russian hacking' story.

It is good to have the truth, finally told."

The farrago of nonsense, which is the 'Russian hacking' story, like the 'Golden Showers' concoction, was only ever designed to appeal to Russia-haters.  It was patently obvious to anyone else with a brain that it was nought but simple shit from start to finish. 

josh

An offhand comment at a press conference, is not evidence, nevermind conclusive evidence. There can be both a hack and a leak. The information can be hacked, and then leaked to a third party.

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

It has been well documented that John Podesta's gmail account, from which most of the damaging emails were taken, was hacked by a phishing attack. There is no doubt about that. The only question is who is responsible for it. Here is a detailed article on how it was done, and what the evidence is that the hackers were the group known as "Fancy Bear". It isn't conclusive, but it is quite persuasive, at least to me.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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It has been well documented that John Podesta's gmail account, from which most of the damaging emails were taken, was hacked by a phishing attack. There is no doubt about that. The only question is who is responsible for it.

That, and what the phishing bait was.

"Enter your username and password HERE to see Hillary nude!"

"Click here to GROW your popular vote by 4 inches!!!"

"With our Binary Trading App, I made $18,544,224 in campaign donations in under a month! -- what are you waiting for??"

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

Mr. Magoo wrote:

Quote:
It has been well documented that John Podesta's gmail account, from which most of the damaging emails were taken, was hacked by a phishing attack. There is no doubt about that. The only question is who is responsible for it.

That, and what the phishing bait was.

"Enter your username and password HERE to see Hillary nude!"

"Click here to GROW your popular vote by 4 inches!!!"

"With our Binary Trading App, I made $18,544,224 in campaign donations in under a month! -- what are you waiting for??"

Actually, it was just a claim that his account had been hacked, and that he should change his password right away, by clicking on a (false) link to a gmail admin page. But I like your suggestions better.Laughing

NDPP
6079_Smith_W

Gee, what's the name of Assange's soapbox again... Wikihacks?

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

6079_Smith_W wrote:

Gee, what's the name of Assange's soapbox again... Wikihacks?

Are you mistaking them with Anonymous. Both do good work in exposing some of the real world but they are different.

6079_Smith_W

No, I know the difference. They haven't been buds for awhile now:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/10/12/anonymous_drops_wikileaks/

I was just making an observation on the stunning admission at 183.

 

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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Both do good work in exposing some of the real world but they are different.

Very.

Who's the charismatic "leader" of Anonymous?  And who did Anonymous support in the 2016 U.S. election?

NDPP

WikiLeaks Calls on Hackers To Leak President Trump's Tax Returns

https://www.rt.com/viral/374722-wikileaks-hackers-trump-taxreturns/

 

NDPP

WikiLeaks Reveals Vast CIA Spying Cyberwar Operation

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/03/08/pers-m08.html

"...The 8,761 documents contained in what WikiLeaks has described as 'the largest intelligence publication in history' have begun to lay bare a vast system of surveillance, hacking and cyberwarfare directed against the people of the United States and the entire planet..."

6079_Smith_W

The material doesn't show that the CIA is breaking the law and operating in the United States. It only shows that (as the article itself says) these are tools which are common to all spy agencies.

My DVD manual also mentions settings for Japan and other countries. That doesn't prove I live there.

(though not to slag wsws too much. Paul Hunter forgot he was an imperialist mouthpiece on CBC The National last night and also speculated that this could mean someone could pretend the Russians did something when they didn't)

Clearly the 2+2 some are hoping for is that this proves Hillary and Obama did it all to undermine Trump, and it wasn't Russia. In fact, it says nothing of the sort. But if we want to get into speculation it might explain why Assange is releasing this just as the truth is coming out that almost all of Trump's advisors, and Trump himself, met with the Russian ambassador and lied about it.

6079_Smith_W

Or maybe he's just getting twitchy about this:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/09/ecuador-julian-assange-emb...

and realizes he'd better do something to salvage his reputation if he doesn't want to go out as some slimy, self-serving little shill.

Mobo2000

This is an amazing release from Wikileaks.   I own a Samsung TV, but never hooked it up to the internet.   

Smith:   Even if you were right that the CIA was acting legally, the rest of the world has a different view of the legality of being spied on by American intelligence agencies when not American.   To me it is somewhat shocking you'd even argue it.   A few years ago it was revealed the CIA was illegally spying on all Americans.   Perhaps they've turned that off.   Oh wait, I forgot, Obama made it legal.

Is anything in this release of concern to you?   Do you think the CIA is right to be pursing these activities?   Do they make us or Americans safer?

 

 

 

NDPP

From Russia with Panic

https://thebaffler.com/salvos/from-russia-with-panic-levine

"...The moral of the tale is that cyberwarfare is a fraught and high stakes theater of conflict, in which the uncertain nature of cyber-attack attribution can be exploited to support any politicized version of events that one chooses.

John Podesta's Gmail account was hacked with a rudimentary spear-phishing attack that tricked him into entering his password with a fake Google login page. His emails ended up on WikiLeaks too. All sorts of people linked this to Russian military intelligence with no concrete evidence to speak of..."

Given revelations that Op Umbrage generates false fingerprints, any credible evidence of Russian hacking DNC/Podesta emails simply ceases to exist.

6079_Smith_W

Well the fact that spy agencies have those tools at hand is alarming (though not surprising). Considering this isn't actually evidence of anything (certainly not spying on Americans, or faking the DNC hack) I'm not sure what I am supposed to make of it beyond that.

But since we are already into the wild speculation department, how about explaining why the deep state would orchestrate an alleged false flag like this and get Trump elected in the first place, just so they could push him out. Does that make sense to you? 

Why not just realease the goods on his little fountain party in Moscow instead (or for that matter, the goods on all those meetings which we now learn happened) and put fascist Hillary in the white house?

 

 

Mobo2000

Smith:   I don't understand your false flag comments.    I don't think anyone is arguing that Hillary/the DNC faked a russian attack on DNC servers to blame on Trump.   The point is to say we don't know who did it, and the previous claims by the CIA and "intelligence experts" that they could tell it came from Russia based on digital signatures, etc, are not grounded in fact.   It underlines that there is still no evidence Russian hacked the DNC, although it is repeated as a near certainty in the media that Russia was behind it.

As to your last question, I think it's simply because they don't have the goods.   I think if they had solid evidence that would have torpedo'd his campaign, they would have released it.    They certainly tried.

Would you answer my questions above?   They were:

Do you think the CIA is right to be pursing these activities?   Do they make us or Americans safer?

 

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