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Mr. Magoo
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Damages? Perhaps to the families of the millions who have died for the gross deceptions of the CBC as per the John Pilger article

Would there be any onus on the plaintiffs in the Federal Court to show that millions have died directly because of the actions (or inactions) of the CBC?

And given that we all fund them, are we not all complicit?

Are those of us who haven't chosen to speak out anonymously on the internet complicit?


NDPP
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Release: The Podesta Emails - Part 23

https://t.co/wzxeh70oUm

 


josh
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NDPP wrote:

Release: The Podesta Emails - Part 23

https://t.co/wzxeh70oUm

 

 

If Trump wins, he may name Assange ambassador to Russia.


Mr. Magoo
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Would he enjoy diplomatic immunity?  That could work out well for him.

And I bet Russia could provide him with some sweet, sweet hacks, in exchange for a little "consideration". 


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Assange: Clinton and ISIS Funded By Same Money, Trump Won't Be Allowed To Win [John Pilger EXCLUSIVE] (and vid)

https://www.rt.com/news/365299-assange-pilger-saudi-clinton/

"In a 2014 email made public by Assange's WikiLeaks last month, Hillary Clinton, who had served as secretary of state until the year before, urges John Podesta, then an advisor to Barack Obama, to 'bring pressure' on Qatar and Saudi Arabia, 'which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other Sunni groups."

 


iyraste1313
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Would there be any onus on the plaintiffs in the Federal Court to show that millions have died directly because of the actions (or inactions) of the CBC?

from wsws.org........

The Nuremberg precedent

The role of propaganda and propagandists figured prominently at the Nuremberg war crimes tribunal, convened to render judgment on the Nazi leaders following World War II. The tribunal was an institution organized by the victorious Allied governments, serving in the final analysis the ruling classes of those countries.

Nonetheless, in their arguments US prosecutors set forth a democratic legal principle derived from the international experience of a half-century of carnage: that planning and launching an aggressive war constituted a criminal act and that those who helped prepare such a war through their propaganda efforts were as culpable as those who drew up the battle plans or manufactured the munitions....

...the attempts to ridicule such precedents, perhaps yes suggest complicity....

 


Mr. Magoo
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Would there be any onus on the plaintiffs in the Federal Court to show that millions have died directly because of the actions (or inactions) of the CBC?

Yes, surely.

Though not necessarily "millions".  Thousands, hundreds, dozens, or even just one should be sufficient.

But don't focus on the number.  Focus on the whole "directly" part.  That's what's going to be the lynchpin.


bekayne
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iyraste1313 wrote:

Would there be any onus on the plaintiffs in the Federal Court to show that millions have died directly because of the actions (or inactions) of the CBC?

What would that be? Not shilling for Dr. Hardial Bains when they had the chance?


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New Republic: The Most Important WikiLeaks Revelation Isn't About Hillary Clinton

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/793226710057619458

"What John Podesta's emails from 2008 reveal about the way power works in the Democratic Party."

No surprise either, that Obama consigliere and the man Canadian International Trade Minister Chrystia Freeland calls her "guru", the man who helped break Glass Steagall and a prime advocate of 'bail ins' and financial deregulation, former World Bank head who infamously wrote: 'I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage countries is impeccable and we should face up to that..', Larry Summers figures prominently in this NR article.


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The real scandal of the 650,000 Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin emails hidden on the laptop or laptops at the home of Anthony Wiener, estranged husband of Huma Abedin, is not that Hillary might have lied under oath about turning over all her emails. The real scandal is that the most damaging secrets of America’s invisible government, its parallel “deep state” acting uncontrolled since at least the time of Vice president and former CIA chief, George H.W. Bush, in the 1980’s, could come to light. If that happens, “All the King’s Horses and All the King’s Men” will face charges of treason or worse. That just might be an appropriate time to begin a clean out of the Augean Stables today known as political Washington.

F. William Engdahl is strategic risk consultant and lecturer, he holds a degree in politics from Princeton University and is a best-selling author on oil and geopolitics, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook.”
http://journal-neo.org/2016/11/04/the-real-huma-gate-crime-is-the-muslim-brotherhood/


Mr. Magoo
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Could someone in Canada go to prison for life, for complicity???


iyraste1313
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The real scandal of the 650,000 Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin emails hidden on the laptop or laptops at the home of Anthony Wiener, estranged husband of Huma Abedin, is not that Hillary might have lied under oath about turning over all her emails. The real scandal is that the most damaging secrets of America’s invisible government, its parallel “deep state” acting uncontrolled since at least the time of Vice president and former CIA chief, George H.W. Bush, in the 1980’s, could come to light. If that happens, “All the King’s Horses and All the King’s Men” will face charges of treason or worse. That just might be an appropriate time to begin a clean out of the Augean Stables today known as political Washington.

F. William Engdahl is strategic risk consultant and lecturer, he holds a degree in politics from Princeton University and is a best-selling author on oil and geopolitics, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook.”
http://journal-neo.org/2016/11/04/the-real-huma-gate-crime-is-the-muslim-brotherhood/


Mr. Magoo
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Could someone in Canada go to prison for life, for complicity???


iyraste1313
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BIG NUGGET NEWS

BREAKING Wikileaks: Abedin’s Computer Confirms HillaryClinton Was Behind Murder of Ambassador Stevens BREAKING Wikileaks: Abedin’s Computer Confirms HillaryClinton Was Behind Murder of Ambassador Stevens


swallow
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Link doesn't go to story. Story is more far-right-wing conpiracy stuff, unsupported by actual evidence. 


bekayne
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swallow wrote:

Link doesn't go to story. Story is more far-right-wing conpiracy stuff, unsupported by actual evidence. 

Not only that, this "breaking" news is from November 1


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WikiLeaks Email Publication Servers Under Targeted DoS Attack Since Releasing DNC Leak 2 - WikiLeaks

http://on.rt.com/7u2w

"Among the published emails, there are transcripts of Bill CLinton's fundraising speeches in which the former US president attacks UK Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn."


MegB
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iyraste1313 wrote:

 

BIG NUGGET NEWS

BREAKING Wikileaks: Abedin’s Computer Confirms HillaryClinton Was Behind Murder of Ambassador Stevens BREAKING Wikileaks: Abedin’s Computer Confirms HillaryClinton Was Behind Murder of Ambassador Stevens

Please stop posting this crap on babble. It's not progressive nor is it factual.


NDPP
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It wasn't 'progressive' to support the bombing of Libya, the US coup in Ukraine, or the Western project to destroy Syria, yet all kinds of people here did precisely that. You're wading into dangerous territory, especially given the track record here, of deciding 'factual' or 'progressive.'


iyraste1313
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Please stop posting this crap on babble. It's not progressive nor is it factual....

...I have read 2 reports so far, on the fact that Clinton`s State department not only withdrew security for the Ambassador, but delayed to send in support, when the riots ensued....I write this to elicit counter information which would disprove that......

I am waiting! Progressive? Seeking the truth is progressive!


Mr. Magoo
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I write this to elicit counter information which would disprove that......

LOL.

You very tenaciously believe that it's everyone else's job to disprove your k00Kery.  It's not.

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Please stop posting this crap on babble. It's not progressive nor is it factual.

We all understand that you work minimal paid hours, and have a lot of ground to cover when you do.  Could you use some help flagging tinfoil-hattery like this?  Many hands make light work.

 


6079_Smith_W
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Mr. Magoo wrote:

Could you use some help flagging tinfoil-hattery like this?  Many hands make light work.

You know, I sympathize with that sentiment, but I also think of what can possibly go wrong, given that we have just had someone here lecture MegB for doing her job, and we seem to have a standing line of applicants for self-appointed moderator who think they know what is best. So while it is a good idea in theory, and I plan to continue flagging really over the top stuff on occasion, it might wind up making more work than it relieves if it turns into a free for all committee.

 

 


Mr. Magoo
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If you flag a post as offensive then under "Reason" there's an option for "Spam!".

Is it better if babble hosts a relentless shitstorm of alt-Right conspiracy k00Kery, but spends their handful of paid moderation hours per week deleting "NFL Tickets Cheap!!"?  Honestly, I'd rather see the spam here, because there's nothing particularly embarrassing about spam.

I'm sure that when the main page RSS feed clogs up with posts about Hillary's body double, some rabble editor dies a little inside.  S/he secured republishing rights to a Noam Chomsky essay, s/he spent 4 weeks convincing Maude Barlow to contribute an article, s/he organized an online roundtable discussion of the effects of Trudeau's government on the collective bargaining process, and WHOOPS!, right there on the front page we learn that Counterpunch.org heard from "reliable inside sources" that Hillary Clinton personally taught the 9/11 hijackers to fly a plane.

 


6079_Smith_W
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Magoo. I agree with you .

I am making a bit of a joke about the fact there are plenty of would-be moderators who might read your comment start getting bright ideas. It has happened often enough.

 


Timebandit
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Thanks, MegB.

Mr. Magoo
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Magoo. I agree with you .

Fair enough.  I'm very aware that you would have as much to lose as anyone, what with all your Nazi-lovin', "Russophobic", Banderite posts and suchlike. 

Not to mention all the posts you could have made but did not.  Maybe babble needs the option to report a non-post.  "He COULD HAVE criticized this, but he didn't!!!"


iyraste1313
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*You very tenaciously believe that it's everyone else's job to disprove your k00Kery.  It's not.*

It`s crucial to understand your enemy...to think that Clinton is a friend of progressives is the highest of fantasy and kookery.....

We must understand who may win this election....the facts are out there...Ambassador Stevens was murdered....his security was told to stand down...no security came to his defence, despite his pleas for help...his security were members of the Febuary 17th brigade, allies of Al Qaeda, hired by Clinton`s State Depar tment, while it was another Al Queda group that did the murder...

Stevens was engaged in weapons transfers from Libya to Syria through Turkey...there was conflict over the transfer of anti missile weapons in this transfer......

these are facts! provable!  What must be uncovered are the motives and the players involved. Clinton was engaged in this process!

If you wish to ignore this reality...fine, then go back and dig your head back into the sand...but facts are facts...

I`m waiting to see the wikileaks emails on the motive! 


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6079_Smith_W
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Arrogant ass.

No explanation of why he couldn't be bothered to take enough care with his material so that he wouldn't out activists and rape victims and put their lives in danger.

And no mention of Sergey Markovm .

But of course that's not the real story; he is.

 

 

 


quizzical
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6079_Smith_W wrote:
No explanation of why he couldn't be bothered to take enough care with his material so that he wouldn't out activists and rape victims and put their lives in danger.

And no mention of Sergey Markovm .

what's this about?


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