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contrarianna wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

Solitary confinement and imprisonment is what Assange deserves. I guess he thought his stunt in the last US election would be a gauranteed 'get out of prison free' card. It's going to be hilarious when the Trump administration stabs him in the back.

I hope he's sentenced to prison for life by one of these governments and it will be the very last time we'll hear the name Julian Assange.

LOL!

Pure fascist mentality from one of the many fake "progressives" on Babble: "Imprison  in solitary those who publish facts I don't like".

Look. I have no intention of being banned because of an asshole like yourself so let me make clear something.

I repeasted not only that I hate Julian Assange but he deserves whatever is coming to him. His stunt in the last US election was politically motivated. This has nothing to do with me simply not agreeing with what he publishes.

So please. Take back the fascist remark or I'm flagging you. Understand?

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

List of journalists killed in Russia

Contrarianna can tell us if she has the same contempt for Russia -- including the current government -- as she does for you, and whether they're similarly not progressives in her estimation.

That isn't to say you couldn't turn your amp down to "8" on the vengeance, Alan.  But for good or bad, wanting (openly; secretly; shamfully) bad people to suffer a little isn't actually a solely conservative thing.  Change the person and the crime, and even Gandhi might say "FUCK YA!  Rot in hell!!!!  Howyalikemenow???"

contrarianna

alan smithee wrote:

contrarianna wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

Solitary confinement and imprisonment is what Assange deserves. I guess he thought his stunt in the last US election would be a gauranteed 'get out of prison free' card. It's going to be hilarious when the Trump administration stabs him in the back.

I hope he's sentenced to prison for life by one of these governments and it will be the very last time we'll hear the name Julian Assange.

LOL!

Pure fascist mentality from one of the many fake "progressives" on Babble: "Imprison  in solitary those who publish facts I don't like".

Look. I have no intention of being banned because of an asshole like yourself so let me make clear something.

I repeasted not only that I hate Julian Assange but he deserves whatever is coming to him. His stunt in the last US election was politically motivated. This has nothing to do with me simply not agreeing with what he publishes.

So please. Take back the fascist remark or I'm flagging you. Understand?

Flag me if you will.
At one time, in the past, it would be more likely be your position that would be questioned on progressive media. Times change.

There is nothing that I said that I would like to retract. Though "fascist mentality' could be replaced with "Stalinist/fascist mentality", they both embody the same desire to punish those who's political motivation does not correspond to one's own. 

So now according to you, you want him imprisoned in solitary because you "hate him" and he did a "stunt" which was "politically motivated"? Do we have enough solitary cells for all those who perform "politically motivated" actions the state and its endorsers don't like? 

Unionist

My apologies if this joint statement has already been posted - it was issued April 2, 2018:

The Isolation of Julian Assange Must Stop

Quote:

We call on President Moreno to end the isolation of Julian Assange now.

List of signatories (in alphabetic order):

Pamela Anderson, actress and activist

Jacob Appelbaum, freelance journalist

Renata Avila, International Human Rights Lawyer

Sally Burch, British/Ecuadorian journalist

Alicia Castro, Argentina’s ambassador to the United Kingdom 2012-16

Naomi ColvinCourage Foundation

Noam Chomsky, linguist and political theorist

Brian Eno, musician

Joseph Farrell, WikiLeaks Ambassador and board member of The Centre for Investigative Journalism

Teresa Forcades, Benedictine nun, Montserrat Monastery

Charles Glass, American-British author, journalist, broadcaster

Chris Hedges, journalist

Srećko Horvat, philosopher, Democracy in Europe Movement (DiEM25)

Jean Michel Jarre, musician

John Kiriakou, former CIA counterterrorism officer and former senior investigator, U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations

Lauri Love, computer scientist and activist

Ray McGovern, former CIA analyst, Presidential advisor

John Pilger, journalist and film-maker

Angela Richter, theater director, Germany

Saskia Sassen, sociologist, Columbia University

Jeffrey St. Clair, journalist

Oliver Stone, film-maker

Vaughan Smith, English journalist

Yanis Varoufakis, economist, former Greek finance minister

Natalia Viana, investigative journalist and co-director of Agencia publica, Brazil

Ai Weiwei, artist

Vivienne Westwood, fashion designer and activist

Slavoj Žižek, philosopher, Birkbeck Institute for Humanities

 

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

contrarianna wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

contrarianna wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

Solitary confinement and imprisonment is what Assange deserves. I guess he thought his stunt in the last US election would be a gauranteed 'get out of prison free' card. It's going to be hilarious when the Trump administration stabs him in the back.

I hope he's sentenced to prison for life by one of these governments and it will be the very last time we'll hear the name Julian Assange.

LOL!

Pure fascist mentality from one of the many fake "progressives" on Babble: "Imprison  in solitary those who publish facts I don't like".

Look. I have no intention of being banned because of an asshole like yourself so let me make clear something.

I repeasted not only that I hate Julian Assange but he deserves whatever is coming to him. His stunt in the last US election was politically motivated. This has nothing to do with me simply not agreeing with what he publishes.

So please. Take back the fascist remark or I'm flagging you. Understand?

Flag me if you will.
At one time, in the past, it would be more likely be your position that would be questioned on progressive media. Times change.

There is nothing that I said that I would like to retract. Though "fascist mentality' could be replaced with "Stalinist/fascist mentality", they both embody the same desire to punish those who's political motivation does not correspond to one's own. 

So now according to you, you want him imprisoned in solitary because you "hate him" and he did a "stunt" which was "politically motivated"? Do we have enough solitary cells for all those who perform "politically motivated" actions the state and its endorsers don't like? 

Like you,I won't retract ANYTHING I've said about Assange. You want to coddle the sweet little angel go right ahead.

He was working with the Republicans during the election to bury Clinton.

I don't care about Clinton but helping Hitler Incarnate Trump a reality makes him a low life. If he were to be thrown in a pit of snakes and set on fire,I wouldn't piss on him.

It's ironic that you call ME a fascist whilst defending a man who helped elect a REAL fascist.

That's your problem,mate. Calling me a fascist makes you look and sound like a major dumbass who doesnt know his ass from his elbow.Especially caling me Stalin. You sound like a Republican.Clueless and hyperbolic.Are you sure your real name isn't Kanye West?

NDPP

"If you're not careful the press will have you hating the people being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." - Malcolm X 

WikiLeaks & the Global Fourth Estate  (and vid)
https://www.rt.com/shows/going-underground/426546-britain-possible-war-i...

@14:00  Dr Nozomi Hayase about why everyone on earth needs Wikileaks.

6079_Smith_W

Žižek?

So this is one of his other games like when he said it is better to have Trump in the White House because it will mean such an assault on human rights that people will be more politically active... 

(then he fucks off back to Slovenia where he doesn't have to worry about it)

... or is he is actually pretending to be serious here? I can't tell.

As I have said a couple of times, I bet any one of these signators could spring for a cellphone with data plan for this guy. And I am sure none of them had to put up with him breaking into their off-limits control room, messing with their security equipment, scuffling with guards, and breaking shit.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jamesball/mr-white-and-mr-blue?utm_term=.eygOop...

What's the problem? Ecuador hasn't thrown him out; perhaps they just don't want to be complicit in his shenanigans. You know, the kind that is getting Assange sued. So just buy him a private cell phone. That's what all the rest of us normal people have.

 

 

NDPP

Anyone actually reading the information posted will already know that Assange's communications are cut, blocked and jammed. There is no possiblity of  'a cellphone and plan' no matter how many times the same poster ignores the pertinent posts and substitutes his own reactionary smear and disinformation attempts instead.

The only visitors allowed Assange are very infrequent ones by his lawyers and only as permitted by the embassy.  Ecuador has had a change in government with the new regime apparently open to cruel and unusual  fuckery with Assange as per ongoing negotiations underway with Washington suggest.

Julian Assange has been subjected to intensive demonization and punished by the imposition of inhumane conditions  for WikiLeaks release of critical information revealing the true nature of power and those in high places. He deserves our sympathy and support, not vile calumnies and character assassination by deluded and brainwashed right-left reactionaries.

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Down the road I see a great movie of a person who started out with great intentions, got a bunch of power and the power corrupted him as it always does.

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

Pogo wrote:

Down the road I see a great movie of a person who started out with great intentions, got a bunch of power and the power corrupted him as it always does.

That sounds about right to me.

NDPP

What Can Assange Still Do in Ecuador embassy after bans

https://youtu.be/yPAA9ZjzqXU

"Julian Assange is reportedly facing new limitations that include bans on phone calls and even visitors..."

contrarianna

alan smithee wrote:

contrarianna wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

contrarianna wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

Solitary confinement and imprisonment is what Assange deserves. I guess he thought his stunt in the last US election would be a gauranteed 'get out of prison free' card. It's going to be hilarious when the Trump administration stabs him in the back.

I hope he's sentenced to prison for life by one of these governments and it will be the very last time we'll hear the name Julian Assange.

LOL!

Pure fascist mentality from one of the many fake "progressives" on Babble: "Imprison  in solitary those who publish facts I don't like".

Look. I have no intention of being banned because of an asshole like yourself so let me make clear something.

I repeasted not only that I hate Julian Assange but he deserves whatever is coming to him. His stunt in the last US election was politically motivated. This has nothing to do with me simply not agreeing with what he publishes.

So please. Take back the fascist remark or I'm flagging you. Understand?

Flag me if you will.
At one time, in the past, it would be more likely be your position that would be questioned on progressive media. Times change.

There is nothing that I said that I would like to retract. Though "fascist mentality' could be replaced with "Stalinist/fascist mentality", they both embody the same desire to punish those who's political motivation does not correspond to one's own. 

So now according to you, you want him imprisoned in solitary because you "hate him" and he did a "stunt" which was "politically motivated"? Do we have enough solitary cells for all those who perform "politically motivated" actions the state and its endorsers don't like? 

Like you,I won't retract ANYTHING I've said about Assange. You want to coddle the sweet little angel go right ahead.

He was working with the Republicans during the election to bury Clinton.

I don't care about Clinton but helping Hitler Incarnate Trump a reality makes him a low life. If he were to be thrown in a pit of snakes and set on fire,I wouldn't piss on him.

It's ironic that you call ME a fascist whilst defending a man who helped elect a REAL fascist.

That's your problem,mate. Calling me a fascist makes you look and sound like a major dumbass who doesnt know his ass from his elbow.Especially caling me Stalin. You sound like a Republican.Clueless and hyperbolic.Are you sure your real name isn't Kanye West?

I'm "a Republican" now? Is that the best dull-witted, though risable, defense you can think of?

The bottom line is your gleeful wish to imprison in solitary those who you politically oppose. That is, by definition,  totalitarianism. 
For bi-partisan fascism to progress it doesn't require just the current disgusting extreme of Trump, or Pence--just more fake progressives who think like you.

Those who replace Trump (should we survive, and he not "win" another show election) whether Republican or Democrat, they will continue the bi-partisan jackbooted march against political foes, whistleblowing, and publishing, which you, de facto, endorse.  The foes may vary a bit according to faction, but bi-partisan totalitarianism is normalized in both security state parties:

The Same Democrats Who Denounce Donald Trump as a Lawless, Treasonous Authoritarian Just Voted to Give Him Vast Warrantless Spying Powers

https://theintercept.com/2018/01/12/the-same-democrats-who-denounce-trum...

Will Democrats Unite to Block Trump’s Torturer, Gina Haspel, as CIA Chief? If Not, What Do They #Resist?
Glenn Greenwald

....That means that Democrats have the power to block a torturer and evidence-destroyer from becoming Trump’s CIA director — if they remain united in their opposition.

Will they do so? It is difficult to be optimistic, to put that mildly.
....
The prospect of united Democratic opposition to Trump’s CIA nominee is further complicated by the vocal support for Haspel coming not only from the CIA itself — which has been running what amounts to a domestic propaganda campaign on her behalf — but also from the most admired Democratic Party intelligence and military officials.....

https://theintercept.com/2018/05/08/will-democrats-unite-to-block-trumps...

 

Mobo2000

Assange is powerful to some of you?   Relative to all the various agencies and actors interested in "getting him", he is by far the least powerful player in any of this.  

Unionist

Michael Moriarity wrote:

Pogo wrote:

Down the road I see a great movie of a person who started out with great intentions, got a bunch of power and the power corrupted him as it always does.

That sounds about right to me.

If I didn't know the context, I could never have imagined that these comments were made about Julian Assange. Unless the words "power" and "corrupted" have some esoteric secondary definitions. What in the name of all that is profane is this supposed to mean??

6079_Smith_W

Ahh.. thanks. I was wondering where the alleged claim that he was "powerful" came from. It's more of a turn of phrase, no?

I agree that an exaggerated sense of self went to his head, and played out in a number of creepy ways, especially since his legal woes started. But a lot of this is personality stuff and a reckless and unprofessional style of operating that always was there

In the context of the Wikileaks organization, I agree it is really unfortunate - mostly because they are at this point chained to him, and effectively useless. Some groups called that dysfunctional relationship for what it is five years ago.

 

NDPP

"Former UK 'Counter-Terrorism commander involved in the Snowden affair trolls Julian Assange's mother on Mothers Day. The Detective now works for BAE Systems, a corrupt Saudi Army supplier often exposed by WikiLeaks."

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/995725728216952834

 

"USA and others don't like any scrutiny via WikiLeaks and they are leaning on everybody to pillory Assange. What happened to free speech?" - Jeremy Corbyn 2010

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/12307023966240768

 

6079_Smith_W

Just went to twitter to see if there was anything at all on his page that was not about him. Came up empty, but he did link to this. I guess it helps to play both sides of the free speech field:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/11/sarah-palin-praises-wik...

Pogo Pogo's picture

Come on.  To say that Wikileaks did  not grow into a very influencial organism is to ignore reality.  Yes he was not on the same level as a nuclear armed nation state, but no one is claiming that.  He definitely had influence and his influence is a reflection of his power.

NDPP

Arresting Julian Assange A Priority

https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2017/apr/21/arresting-julian-assange-i...

"Justice department 'stepping up' efforts to prosecute WikiLeaks founder as CNN reports that charges have been drawn up."

6079_Smith_W

What I find odd about this latest turn is why he would risk his already delicate position not to release important information, but just to weigh in on issues that are common knowledge. If Wikileaks really is an important organization, it seems to me all he is doing is putting it at risk with what really is pointless grandstanding. It's not as if this concerns suppressing hidden information, and even if it did, all he would have to do is hand it off to someone and release it some other way that does not have his name connected to it.

Which begs the question of what this may really be about.

If he thinks he is going to win a faux free speech showdown, and that a populist groundswell is going to rise up and compel his evil hosts to give him everything he wants he might be disappointed. I can only think a wiser tactician who had real concern for his organization would play his cards a bit closer to his chest.

There's a May 2 link in his twitter feed about Ecuador's security deal with the U.S. - not new information, but an telesur article. What's the point? Seems to me he is making demands while poking them in the eye at the same time.

 

 

NDPP

'People Lie to Themselves About Julian Assange To Justify His Persecution'

https://twitter.com/caitoz/status/996056951061594113

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Unionist wrote:

Michael Moriarity wrote:

Pogo wrote:

Down the road I see a great movie of a person who started out with great intentions, got a bunch of power and the power corrupted him as it always does.

That sounds about right to me.

If I didn't know the context, I could never have imagined that these comments were made about Julian Assange. Unless the words "power" and "corrupted" have some esoteric secondary definitions. What in the name of all that is profane is this supposed to mean??

As Pogo has already commented, it may be that "influential" would be more accurate than "powerful". In the age of information, Assange had access to a great deal on information that was not publicly known, and also the power to decide which pieces of secret information to reveal. Anything he did reveal was immediately amplified by major media world wide.

As long as he was acting in a way that could be recognized as generally in the public interest, he was exercising his influence in a benign way. Unfortunately, when he was pursued (I think unfairly) by the U.S. government, he began using his influence in a more Machiavellian way, for example attempting to influence the U.S. presidential election in favour of Trump. That is what I regard as corruption.

Unionist

Thanks for the explanations, Pogo and Michael.

I just thought that "powerful" and "corrupted" were ungenerous and odd terms to use about a man who has been unable to leave a building for almost 6 years because the most powerful country in the history of the world is hunting him down. And if he uses his "influence" to strike back at that country in any way he feels appropriate, I still have trouble blaming the victim. 

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

Unionist wrote:

Thanks for the explanations, Pogo and Michael.

I just thought that "powerful" and "corrupted" were ungenerous and odd terms to use about a man who has been unable to leave a building for almost 6 years because the most powerful country in the history of the world is hunting him down. And if he uses his "influence" to strike back at that country in any way he feels appropriate, I still have trouble blaming the victim. 

I agree that Assange is a rather tragic figure. I don't really blame him for trying to strike back at the U.S. in a personal sense, but I think it cost him his credibility.

6079_Smith_W

Corrupt is unkind? How about sociopathic? 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/sep/18/julian-assange-wik...

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/38609_PBS_FrontLine-_WikiSecrets

You know, I have said already in threads about him that I don't think he had much choice but to go into the embassy, if his assumptions are true. My sympathy for him went way down at the point he started slagging his accusers, and frankly the biggest problem I have with this extradition attempt is how it has interfered with their case.

Here's another interesting article. The big reveal - that Assange's goal is "total annhilation of the current U.S. regime" probably isn't a surprise to some, and I am sure some support him in it. But he can't exactly pretend it is journalism. And some of the tactics outlined in the article are an eye-opener:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/defector-wikileaks-will-lie-to-your-face

Pogo Pogo's picture

Unionist wrote:
if he uses his "influence" to strike back at that country in any way he feels appropriate, I still have trouble blaming the victim. 

I agree that it not the standard power corrupts that I presented. I do think progressive historians will treat Manning far better.

Pogo Pogo's picture

Unionist wrote:
if he uses his "influence" to strike back at that country in any way he feels appropriate, I still have trouble blaming the victim. 

I agree that it not the standard power corrupts that I presented. I do think progressive historians will treat Manning far better.

voice of the damned

Pogo wrote:

Unionist wrote:
if he uses his "influence" to strike back at that country in any way he feels appropriate, I still have trouble blaming the victim. 

I agree that it not the standard power corrupts that I presented. I do think progressive historians will treat Manning far better.

And I think Edward Snowden is the best example of a guy who used his knowledge and abilities to strike back at power. And I would hope that saying such indicates that my lower opinion of Assange is not a result of my being a shill for "Killary", since her party was as tainted by Snowden's revelations as anybody else.  

 

 

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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And I think Edward Snowden is the best example of a guy who used his knowledge and abilities to strike back at power.

Why wouldn't Assange bunk up with Snowden?  Snowden's on the lam too, but it doesn't seem like he's "being kept prisoner" in a dark damp cell with no wi-fi and no sunlight, at least.

The whole idea of civil disobedience has always included the possibility of punishment.  I'm not saying "that's fine" or "too bad", but was there something that ever made Assange believe he could just do whatever he wanted with zillions of classified documents (a tiny percentage of which *may* have legitimately been in the public interest) and somehow this would NOT create any problems for him?

Unionist

Magoo, if I didn't love you, I'd call you names for saying that "Assange should have known that if he spoke truth to power, then power would crush him, so why sympathize with him now?" That's actually beneath you. But I still love you.

voice of the damned

Magoo wrote:

Why wouldn't Assange bunk up with Snowden?  Snowden's on the lam too, but it doesn't seem like he's "being kept prisoner" in a dark damp cell with no wi-fi and no sunlight, at least.

I don't understand what you mean here. What does "bunk up" mean in this context?

Part of the reason Snowden's situation is a little more enviable than Assange's is that the former was able to get to a sympathetic, autonomous country, which gave him refuge(albeit likely for its own self-interested purposes). Assange was only able to get himself to an embassy in the middle of the capital city of a hostile country.

I do agree that claims that wikileaks has provided nothing but unblemished benefit to mankind are a little hard to swallow. Even without multiplying hypotheticals where progressives probably would look askance at the release of private documents, wikileaks' own actions have at times seemed pretty dubious. I'm not quite seeing which interests were served by posting the medical records of Saudi homosexuals, for example.

Even the things they're most famous for, the dimplomatc cables, were a bit of a dud. Can anyone remember what grave crimes were exposed in all that? Or ANY crimes? Mostly, I just saw newspapers citing them to enhance the "flavour" of articles where the main information being provided was already widely known.

NDPP

 Snowden only escaped due to to the assistance and coordination of Assange and WikiLeaks. This is well known and not seriously questioned. Furthermore, the contributions of WikiLeaks publishing are immense and can't possibly be apprehended or appreciated by what the msm chose to share. 

voice of the damned

NDPP wrote:

 Snowden only escaped due to to the assistance and coordination of Assange and WikiLeaks. This is well known and not seriously questioned.

Yeah, I know. Doesn't change the question as to whether or not Snowden's personal motivations and wikileaks overall agenda are the same. The Pentagon Papers were published by the Washington Post. From what I know of Daniel Ellesberg, though, his worldview is not quite identical to theirs.

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Magoo, if I didn't love you, I'd call you names for saying that "Assange should have known that if he spoke truth to power, then power would crush him, so why sympathize with him now?" That's actually beneath you. But I still love you.

And that love keeps me alive some days.

But I'm not saying "whatevs".  I'm saying that in what alternate universe could Assange imagine doing all that Assange has done while telecommuting from a house in the Hamptons?

Manning paid a price.  Snowden continues to pay a price.  Assange CHOSE to hunker down in a foxhole and we're all supposed be outraged that he doesn't have free wi-fi in his foxhole?

Personally, I don't think that WikiLeaks "did what the world needed".  I think they did whatever they could do, and whatever they personally wanted to do, even if only 5% of that was "what the world needed".  And then Assange couldn't keep it in his pants.  And then he claimed to fear for his life.  And then he chose his prison cell.  And then he pretty much just lived in that cell.  It's terrible if Ecuador insists on frisking Pamela Anderson when she comes to visit him in his misery, and bring him two-year-old newspapers and some chocolate rations and such, but I really don't feel like Assange's lot in life, today, is all the fault of Empire.

Roman Polanski did worse, did it longer ago, and is even more unrepentant, but he lives in a swanky villa, receives awards, drinks good wine whenever he wants to, and has an internet connection.  Assange's "political PRISONER" story is getting thin.

NDPP

The latest of the evil Guardian's hit-pieces on Assange/WikiLeaks. "Visits from Nigel Farage, members of European nationalist groups and individuals linked to the Kremlin..."  Lol. Enjoy!

Revealed: Ecuador Spent Millions on Spy Operation For Julian Assange

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/15/revealed-ecuador-spent-mil...

NDPP

Glenn Greenwald

https://twitter.com/greenwald/status/996787790611394561

"Ecuador's ex-president Rafael Correa, in an exclusive interview with the Intercept, denounces treatment of Julian Assange as 'torture."

 

Ecuador Hints It May Hand Over Assange

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/05/ecuador-hints-may-hand-assange.html

Interesting comments too:

'...The truth is something we rarely get to see without Wikileaks. If you believe the truth is bad, and it did bad things to your favorite candidate, can you also deny you are a fascist?"

6079_Smith_W

NDPP wrote:

Interesting comments too:

'...The truth is something we rarely get to see without Wikileaks. If you believe the truth is bad, and it did bad things to your favorite candidate, can you also deny you are a fascist?"

Oh. right.

In the past year alone, the “radical transparency” organization has published medical files belonging to scores of ordinary citizens. Hundreds more have had sensitive family, financial or identity records posted to the web, according to the Associated Press.

In two cases, WikiLeaks named teenage rape victims.

In a third case, which the organization disputes, WikiLeaks published the name of a Saudi citizen arrested for being gay – an extraordinary move given that homosexuality can lead to social ostracism, a prison sentence or even death.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/aug/23/wikileaks-posts-sensitive-...

Another reason why I shake my head at people putting this arrogant creep on par with journalists just because he knows how to hit copy send.

Never mind that he wasn't all about truth when it concerned material he didn't want the Guardian and NYT to publish.

6079_Smith_W

Besides, they turned down this:

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-leaks-on-russi...

And got all concern troll over the Panama Papers, the world's biggest data leak, which they were not a part of:

Putin attack was produced by OCCRP which targets Russia & former USSR and was funded by USAID & Soros.

https://www.carbonated.tv/news/wikileaks-panama-papers-us-government-fun...

I wonder why. Maybe because it concerned someone's favourite candidate.

 

 

NDPP

Cutting Assange Off From the World is 'Torture', 'Attack' on Mental Health - Ex-Ecuadoran President

https://on.rt.com/95gl

"...In contrast to Correa, Ecuador's new president, Lenin Moreno, is less sympathetic to Assange's plight and more understanding of his overseas allies. Under Moreno, Ecuador signed a bilateral security deal with the US aimed at fighting 'transnational organized crime' [USA IS transnational organized crime]. The move has triggered fears of a returning American military presence in Ecuador."

NDPP

"CIA Torturer ['Bloody Gina'] Gina Haspel has just been confirmed as new CIA chief. Six Democrats joined with Republicans to confirm her. Two Republicans opposed."

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/997219832419487745

NDPP

WikiLeaks and Whistleblowers Condemn New Allegations Against Julian Assange

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/05/17/assa-m17.html

"...Besides WikiLeaks and the WSWS, only a handful of other websites and individuals have stepped forward to denounce the Guardian for serving as the conduit for the anti-Assange vendetta of the US government and intelligence agencies. In the main there is a complicit silence on the part of the pro-imperialist establishment and media and no less pro-imperialists pseudo-left organizations.

The almost universal hostility towards Assange and indifference to his fate on the part of the establishment press and self-styled 'left' is in stark contrast to mass popular sentiment. On Facebook, Twitter and other soical media, every defense of Assange is being responded to with a stream of supportive comments, retweets and shares, and sharp and informed rebuttals of all those who attempt to attack Assange and WikiLeaks with pro-state propaganda and lies..."

'I will NOT add further comments to the Guardian articles. What is happening is clear: destroying wikileaks reputation is necessary for having western public opinion accept that for the 1st time in US history an editor and a media org are put in jail."

https://twitter.com/SMauriz/status/996636767120961536

"Julian is ill & isolated for over 6 weeks. No internet, phone, visitor access. A cruel, disturbing and dangerous development. I signed this petition urging them to resist US pressure."

https://twitter.com/AssangeMrs/status/996887465339207680

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Never mind that Assange isn't in jail, and isn't in the U.S.:

https://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/09/us/editor-jailed-over-letter-is-freed...

That tripe about The Guardian being a conduit for the U.S. government and intelligence agencies gave me a chuckle, though.

 

NDPP

"There are approximately 5,000 media workers in London to cover UK establishment propaganda spectacle, the royal wedding..."

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/997774777552113664

 

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"There are approximately 5,000 media workers in London to cover UK establishment propaganda spectacle, the royal wedding..."

Ah, yes.  Circuses, not bread.

But if WikiLeaks had been offered Markle's Snapchat, they'd have published it.  Because "the people have a right to know".

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In the past year alone, the “radical transparency” organization has published medical files belonging to scores of ordinary citizens. Hundreds more have had sensitive family, financial or identity records posted to the web, according to the Associated Press.

Sadly, the "establishment" media lacks the courage to tell us who in our midst is HIV+.

Thank you, WikiLeaks.  Thank you.

 

NDPP

Ecuador's Talks With UK Over Assange 'Defame Country's Good Name' - John Pilger

https://sptnkne.ws/h6jy

"...The US has a very, very clear agenda here. It has an indictment ready for Assange, a draconian indictement that it has been working on for a number of years. The vindictive pursuit of Assange is happening for one reason only: he told the truth. He revealed through Chelsea Manning - the warcrimes of the US in Afghanistan and Iraq, and of course last year revealing the machinations of the DNC in trying to gerrymander the result of the primary vote in that country, which it successfully did.

As a result, their indictment is indeed draconian and could well result in an extradition that puts him away in some hellhole for the rest of his life..."

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The vindictive pursuit of Assange is happening for one reason only: he told the truth.

About individuals' medical histories?

NDPP

Canadian Boat to Gaza, Freedom Flotilla Participant. Col Ann Wright (ret) on WikiLeaks 

https://youtu.be/Xb4LLRQbyMQ

"...I have learned more from WikiLeaks about the operations of the US government...than I really knew in my 16 years with the US government."

 

Free Julian Now!

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49455.htm

"Australian people want justice for Assange, Melbourne rally planned..."

voice of the damned

NDPP wrote:

UK establishment propaganda spectacle, the royal wedding..."

Well, it was about as much of an "establishment spectacle" as it can be without Teresa May, Donald Trump, or even Harry's personal friend Barack Obama being invited.

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Pure fascist mentality from one of the many fake "progressives" on Babble: "Imprison  in solitary those who publish facts I don't like".

 

I'm "a Republican" now? Is that the best dull-witted, though risable, defense you can think of?

And calling me a ' fascist' and a ' totalitarian' isn't dull-witted and infantile? LOL..You're a half wit and you must be a ' fake'  progressive  seeing that you are defending a Republican troll.

The bottom line is your gleeful wish to imprison in solitary those who you politically oppose. That is, by definition,  totalitarianism. 
For bi-partisan fascism to progress it doesn't require just the current disgusting extreme of Trump, or Pence--just more fake progressives who think like you.

You're an asshole. There  is nothing left for me to say to you. As I said,I'm not going to be banned at the hands of the likes of you.

Call me ridiculous names. It just proves you're a troll and you're not worth the time of day.

​It's too fucking bad that you get triggered when someone rightfully besmirches your cult leader.

Go yell at a cloud.

 

 

 

NDPP

Getting Julian Assange: The Untold Story  -  by John Pilger

https://dissidentvoice.org/2017/05/getting-julian-assange/

"...If the British Government allows this to happen, it will in the eyes of the world, be shamed comprehensively and historically as an accessory to the crime of war waged by rampant powers against justice and freedom and all of us."

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