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The only war that is justified is defensive war. A defensive war is fought if a nation(s) have been militarily attacked and/or invaded by another nation(s).
According to international law, 9/11 was an act of terrorism. An act of terrorism is not an act of war. It is a criminal act. As such, the appropriate response would have been to conduct a criminal investigation by the CIA, FBI, CSIS, the RCMP, MI-6 (British civilian intelligence), INTERPOL, etc. - not NATO. Find out who the guilty are. Find out where they are. Get warrants from the ICC (International Criminal Court). Then go out with the intent of arresting and bringing them to justice.
So, attacking Saudi Arabia would have been illegal. Also, remember that the guys who plotted the attacks and who flew the planes were in Hamburg, Germany and Tampa FL, U.S.A.
To militarize human rights, then use war to defend and protect those rights is aggressive war and is (still) not kosher according to the Conventions.
This is the wedge issue that the "war cartel" uses to divide the left and even to get (some of) the left to support these wars.
No U.N. Resolution was passed that legally sanctions the Afghan war. The only thing the U.N. did was the Permanent Security Council (U.S.A., U.K., France, Russia and China) agreed/acquiesced that they would not make the case that the war was illegal and therefore silently allowed it to happen - this was after W. Bush defied the U.N. by bombing and invading Afghanistan (October 7, 2001) and before NATO countries (except the U.K.) deployed troops there.
No need to put Arab in quotes. It's my legal last name, passed on to me by my Lebanese father who was, in fact, an arab.
I'm not sure how working for a public sector union constitutes bloodlust as a line of work, so I can only assume the implication is somehow that arabs are killers, but maybe I'm being too sensitive.
In anycase, your ramblings are not serving your credibility.
Eastwinds,
this is all very nice, though somewhat OT.
This post is about ill-advised "ethically-challenged workers" employed by a deceptive and unaccountable government entity, and corporate entity. Their ill-advice is coming home to roost. This is the story discussed here, not about how this corpo-fascist sandtrap happened in the first miserable place.
It would be nice to be able to discuss this like adults, as Canadians.
Whatever you do, you bathe in it.
You are the biggest keyboard Merc I've seen since becoming a member here. Infact probably extending well beyond my time here.
You're going to run your mouth until the mods ban you for being an offensive troll and you will just find another forum to rant and rave about in your basement.
Ah, ok..now I get it. Let's say, for an example, that in the new year a group of terrorists kocked down a building in a Cdn city killing 800 people. It was later found out that these terrorists were trained in Afghanistan, were allowed to train/live there by the Afghan rulers, those rulers not willing to shut down the organization and hand over any more of the group, etc etc...then I should expect the RCMP to get a warrant from the ICC and nail the mother f'ers?...LOL, too funny.
Canadian military officials have named the four soldiers who were killed in Afghanistan on Wednesday, when a powerful improvised explosive device struck the vehicle they were travelling in on the outskirts of Kandahar city.
They are Sgt. George Miok, 28, and Cpl. Zachery McCormack, 21, both of Edmonton; Sgt. Kirk Taylor, 28, of Yarmouth, N.S.; and Pte. Garrett Chidley, 21, of Cambridge, Ont. All were members of the Kandahar Provincial Reconstruction Team.
If I was easily impressed, the blood loss of these fine, inexperienced young men would somehow register. Right now, all I feel is the red ink of stormparatroopers.
Like I said earlier, the blood shed by corpofascists is ghoulish.
And I for one, am the least impressed of all by this callous exploitation of fine youthful, but inexperienced, and under-educated CANADIANS.
What do you do for a living Kruuler?
eASTWINDS,
it's called the rule of law. That you are under-equipped to grasp that I understand. Canada is a land full of moronic individuals that don't have a clue where they are.
This is a nation of laws. Exept you wouldn't know it by how disabled and clueless law enforcement is in Canada.
Eastwind, did you vote conlibersavtive at the last "election"? I can see why you support this unlawful invasion and occupation.
I'm in theater. I fend for myself by working for infidels.
Like Cineplex Odeon Theater?
I can't say I'm a big fan. Each to their own.
So what exactly do you mean by in Theater then?
As in "none -of-your-business" theater.
Amen.
Top secret like a keyboard merc.
Good for you though I can't say I'm surprised.
That's right.
The Geneva Conventions talk about proportionality in war: that those defending themselves should cause casualties roughly equal to their own. In 2001, app. 3,000 people died in the 9/11 attacks. In Afghanistan, the most recent figures have put Afghan deaths at 12,000 - 36,000. Where's the proportionality?
The Taliban did offer to hand Osama Bin Laden over to a third country. Bush rejected it because the neocons didn't want their puppet President to prevent war in Afghanistan:
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/031507a.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/bush-rejects-taliban-offer-...
From a legal perspective, World War II ended with the Nuremberg Trials and the legal Principles they established, the Geneva Conventions which are based on the Nuremberg Principles and the United Nations whose purpose is to try to create a peaceful and just world based on the rule of international law and justice.
About 44,000 Candian soldiers died in World War II.
Why?
Certainly not that 138 (and counting) Canadian soldiers and 12,000 - 36,000 Afghans would die in an unnecessary, illegal, immoral and unjust bullshit Vietnam type war.
Where do you see the humor in this?
Don't feed the trolls. As between a trolling provocateur and a lunatic, my guess is the troll.
[STEPPING OUT OF MY VACATION] Ok, he's gone [BACK TO VACATION] Maysie and jrose can deal with the rest of the rather lengthy abuse complaints list
What the hell, may as well close for length while I'm here.