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A housing development underway on disputed land at Oka:
Evidently our governments are very slow learners. We will soon learn more about what Justin Trudeau is made of. I'm not optimistic.
It's interesting to me that in this story there is no conversation with the developer. According to the story, the developer reached an agreement with the Mohawk council back in 2003. The Mohawk grand chief says there are no agreements on file. So if I'm writing the story, I call the developer and see what they have to say. Do they have any record of formal or informal talks and agreements? The story's writer stopped before getting that far. Sloppy journalism if you ask me.
..gabriel clearly defines the issues in these 2 videos
27 years after the Oka Crisis, Ellen Gabriel is once again defending the pines on the Mohawk Territory
Again, I didn't see any conversation with the developer. According to the CBC story the developer negotiated directly with the Mohawk Council. Is that true or not? Why doesn't someone ask the developer?
..yes gabriel acknowledges that or at least the mayor did. and as she points out that band council represents less than 1/4 of the people.
..there are ongoing struggles against band councils that are being used to make decisions over greater indigenous territory where they have no jurisdiction. this is seen in bc re pipelines and lng. i believe this is what gabriel is talking about.
This may seem like a dumb question, but if I'm a developer and want to reach an agreement with the Mohawk First Nation, who do I negotiate with?
..your question seems rhetorical rev. i believe in this case the developers fully understood this was disputed land. then tried to make an end run around the longhouse people anyway. not for a second do i feel badly for those vultures. not for a second do i believe the problem lies with the mohawk.
The question was not rhetorical. It was a real question, looking for a real answer. If the Mohawk Council is not entitled to make decisions, or come to agreements, with outsiders, who then would the outsider turn to?
In one of your posts above, you have Gabriel apparently saying the council didn't really represent the people. Fine with me, but then who does represent them, Gabriel? A pretty simple question.
..it's easy enough to do the researcher if you really want to know.