Canada should arrest George W. Bush when he visits: Amnesty

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OTTAWA - Amnesty International Canada says the federal government should arrest former U.S. president George W. Bush when he visits British Columbia next week.

The rights body says both Canadian and international law oblige Canada to detain Bush and investigate him for war crimes and torture.

Amnesty Canada's secretary general, Alex Neve, says Bush admits in his memoirs that he authorized the use of torture against terror suspects.

Neve says the Americans used a variety of torture methods, including waterboarding, beatings and sleep deprivation.

He says Amnesty has sent a lengthy document to the federal government, outlining its responsibilities under international law.

 

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/canada-arrest-george-w-bush-visits-next-week-14...

 


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alan smithee
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I agree..Canada SHOULD arrest him.

But fat chance..I see more protesters being arrested if they dare be vocal and visible while this war criminal visits.

Fact is,Harper should be arrested alongside Bush and Cheney as Canada is a complicite partner.

But it isn't going to happen..


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To give credit where credit is due - this Amnesty statement is directly related to the work of both John Splitting the Sky Hill - who attempted a citizen's arrest of GW BUSH in Calgary, and Gail Davidson of Lawyers Against War.


Lefauve
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Harper and cie declared Amnesty International extremist.

Look To me they only intend to use internationnal treaty as wall decoration.


milo204
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perhaps they could just rendition bush to an unfriendly country that would torture him and lock him up without charge for a 10-15 years.  Then they could let him go to be harassed for the rest of his life by border agents, airport security, etc?


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Canadian Activists Vow to Arrest George Bush in October (and vid)

http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2011/05/canadian-activists-vow-arrest-george...

Surrey BC Mayor Diane Watts forewarned of torture issues with George W Bush invite in October by Peace activists. Bush is scheduled to arrive in Surrey October 20. Please attend the protest/arrest of this important warcriminal.

 


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Occupy Surrey Protest to Welcome George W Bush to Canada

http://www.straight.com/article-488596/vancouver/occupy-surrey-protest-w...

"On Wednesday (Oct. 12) Occupy Surrey tweeted: 'When War Criminal Bush comes to Surrey October 20th, we will meet him with a FLASH OCCUPATION. Expect us.' The protest is set to take place next Thursday, beginning at 10:00 a.m. outside the Bay at the Guilford Town Centre shopping mall..."

Letter to the People of Surrey on GWB's Visit

http://www.straight.com/article-489371/vancouver/letter-people-surrey-ge...

"The fact that your Mayor [Diane Watts] and it appears your city council would invite a person known to have been involved in torture and other international crimes into your town, your own backyard - should be unacceptable to you the voter...

The Prime Minister, the Attorney General of Canada and the Minister of Immigration have been notified that they are under a legal obligation to prevent the entry of George Bush into Canada.."

Email Surrey Mayor Diane Watts: Cancel Bush!

http://www.surrey.ca/city-government/6866.aspx


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This war crimes ideology is a form of obfuscation that legitimizes imperialism. All it does is add respect and authority whenever third world leaders like Ghadaffi, or eventually Assad and Chavez, are arrested for war crimes. That is the main effect. The second effect is that it makes the left look idiotic. People understand that Bush had the support of most of the population when he committed these actions.

In my opinion the left should focus on undermining imperialism rather than on strengthening imperialism. We should be agitating to destroy the international criminal court, to repeal the Geneva conventions, to mock the nobel peace prize... not to give them further credibility. 

The very concept of a war crime is infantile and pro-imperialistic. War itself is largely a crime. When you bring up war crimes all you do is imply that there is a just form of war, and of course that form of war is the type that uses western weapons and is backed by western democracies.


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Someone mentioned on CBC that "extrordinary rendition" started under Bill Clinton and no one called for his arrest then.


takeitslowly
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why would Canada arrest george w bush when they just gave harper a majority government? what a joke.


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Canadian Response Lukewarm to Amnesty's Call to Arrest George Bush [like Canadian response to almost anything!]

http://genevalunch.com/blog/2011/10/14/canadian-response-lukewarm-to-amn...

"Neve said many will argue that arresting Mr Bush is unrealistic because the United States is a close and powerful ally or that the crisis after 9/11 required extraordinary measures. None of those arguments justify inaction  under international law,' he said."

 

'On March 17, 2009, Cynthia McKinney's birthday, we broke the police line defending the puppet of Wall Street GW Bush in Calgary, Alberta and attempted to serve him the papers drawn up by Gail Davidson and Lawyers Against War (LAW). This mass murderer/torturer is coming to Surrey this October 20, 2011. Let's give him and Bill Clinton a huge welcome...

PS:

bring an extra pair of handcuffs for Mayor Watts for collaborating with the self confessed war criminals."

Splitting the Sky


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Occupy Vancouver Plans Rowdy Protest for Dubya's Surrey Visit

http://www.theprovince.com/news/Occupy+Vancouver+plans+rowdy+protest+Dub...

"Occupy Vancouver is planning to 'Occupy Bush', when former US President George W Bush comes to speak at the annual Surrey Regional Economic Forum on Thursday. Occupy Vancouver has arranged for buses to take demonstrators to Surrey on Thursday morning. Amnesty International has also invited people to meet at Occupy Vancouver's site outside the Vancouver Art Gallery and to commute to Surrey together around 9:30 AM..."

spread the word!

Breaking News: Torture Victims to Initiate Private Prosecution Against George W Bush on his Arrival in Canada

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27171

"Canadian government has legal obligations under UN Convention Against Torture to prosecute alleged perpetrators of torture, rights groups say..."


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takeitslowly wrote:

why would Canada arrest george w bush when they just gave harper a majority government? what a joke.

from what i get, reading between the tear (drops), was that the fascasti won less adroitly then one expect given the money spent and all the cheating-plus the pig media singing the Furor's (harper) praise 24/7 on all stations!

they're crooks. period.


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Uncle John
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Yes. When George W. Bush invades a country, he is an imperialist Hitlerite war criminal, but when Obama does it, he is a liberating Purple Barney Dinosaur. The hypocrisy on this is delicious.

If we are going to arrest GWB for war crimes, we are going to arrest Obama too. Every US president is a war criminal. It is part of the job description.


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Uncle John wrote:

Yes. When George W. Bush invades a country, he is an imperialist Hitlerite war criminal, but when Obama does it, he is a liberating Purple Barney Dinosaur. The hypocrisy on this is delicious.

If we are going to arrest GWB for war crimes, we are going to arrest Obama too. Every US president is a war criminal. It is part of the job description.

 

And as I said beforte, we should also arrest Fidel Castro and his brother Raul, as well as any other tolitarian socialist leader responsible for crimes against their people (including members of any secret police organizations like the KGB, Statsi, etc.) What's fair is fair.


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I am sure you heard that Dick Cheney decided to cancel his plans to visit Toronto in April, because Canada is too dangerous to visit - "for fear of violent protests".

http://tinyurl.com/7bkter6


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alan smithee wrote:

Fact is,Harper should be arrested alongside Bush and Cheney as Canada is a complicite partner.

Harper wasn't even PM when these actions occured.  If anyone were to be arrested, it would be Chretien, and even that doesn't make sense because neither he nor Harper are actually guilty of the crimes Bush and Cheney are accused of


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AlfredB wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

Fact is,Harper should be arrested alongside Bush and Cheney as Canada is a complicite partner.

Harper wasn't even PM when these actions occured.  If anyone were to be arrested, it would be Chretien, and even that doesn't make sense because neither he nor Harper are actually guilty of the crimes Bush and Cheney are accused of

 

Canada's secret war in Iraq

The Shawinigan Strangler was a vicious toadie afterall. And Paul Martin, equal the vicious toadie, committed Canadian troops to an aggressive U.S-style combat role in Kandahar by 2005.

Harper, Martin and Chretien are all vicious toadies for Uncle Sam and should be arraigned on charges of war crimes along with the owners of lapdog newz media broadcasting pro-war propaganda 24-7.


AlfredB
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Doublepost.  Not sure how to delete here, sorry.


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AlfredB wrote:

Fidel wrote:

Harper, Martin and Chretien are all vicious toadies for Uncle Sam and should be arraigned on charges of war crimes along with the owners of lapdog newz media broadcasting pro-war propaganda 24-7.

 

Like I said, neither he nor Chretien, nor Martin are actually guilty of the crimes Bush and Cheney are accused of.  

Which law do you suggest they be charged under?


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AlfredB wrote:

AlfredB wrote:

Fidel wrote:

Harper, Martin and Chretien are all vicious toadies for Uncle Sam and should be arraigned on charges of war crimes along with the owners of lapdog newz media broadcasting pro-war propaganda 24-7.

 

Like I said, neither he nor Chretien, nor Martin are actually guilty of the crimes Bush and Cheney are accused of.  

Which law do you suggest they be charged under?

 

Our vicious toadies are guilty of marching the Canadian army into sovereign countries uninvited, crimes against peace, aiding and abetting U.S. war criminals etc. They could be arraigned on charges of violating Nuremberg principles guiding what constitutes war crimes: Nuremberg Charter (1945), the Nuremberg Judgment (1946), and the Nuremberg Principles (1950) 

and I'm sure they've violated some Canadian laws against aiding and abetting torture of Afghan as well as Canadian citizens - failing to defend the internationally recognized rights of child soldiers,  and of lying to Canada's Parliament in addition to violating international law since Nuremberg. 

Our lapdog news media in the U.S. and Canada should be charged and prosecuted for broadcasting pro war propaganda. 

Or we could skip the trials and just line them all up against a cement wall at dawn. No cigarettes or blindfolds. Personally, I'd like them to face their Afghan, Iraqi, Serb, Bosnian, Libyan and international accusers at a trial in any of those countries. The victims' families could allow the accused to balance themselves piggy-backed on top of one another with the last one at the bottom standing atop a carefully placed land mine made by western arms manufacturers, and allow the accused to explain their decisions to order bombings of civilians for years on end, and to explain why destroying their countries in order to get to one man was the right thing to do.  I'm thinking they might rat on on one another lickity split.


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Fidel wrote:

 

Again, I'm going to ask which law you think they should be charged under, not which treaty you think might be applicable to something they might have done.

If you're going to advocate for criminal charges, it's not unreasonable to expect you to know which charges should be laid and what evidence you have to indicate guilt.

You're being far too vague here.  

 

 


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AlfredB wrote:

Fidel wrote:

 

Again, I'm going to ask which law you think they should be charged under, not which treaty you think might be applicable to something they might have done.

If you're going to advocate for criminal charges, it's not unreasonable to expect you to know which charges should be laid and what evidence you have to indicate guilt.

You're being far too vague here.  

 

The thing is Fidel can't come up with anything for you to latch onto, because Fidel has NOTHING for anybody to latch onto other than his own sense of outrage at certain world leaders. This makes him no different than the people on the right who scream the same kind of invective against whoever and whatever Faux Noise/Sun News has them pissed off against.

The people that I mentioned in my response, however, are responsible for a lot of crimes against their own people, and it most reasonably could be proven that they did them, something that most people here won't admit is possible.


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I would have liked for GWB and Dick Cheney to be arrested very much and perhaps Obama and Hillary Clinton too, but it's a pipedream if there ever was one, unfortunately.


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AlfredB wrote:

Fidel wrote:

 

Again, I'm going to ask which law you think they should be charged under, not which treaty you think might be applicable to something they might have done.

If you're going to advocate for criminal charges, it's not unreasonable to expect you to know which charges should be laid and what evidence you have to indicate guilt.

You're being far too vague here.  

 

For starters you can look up torture. It is illegal under Geneva Conventions and especially Article 12. And pay attention to the fact that Afghanistan is also a party to Geneva Conventions. Your corrupt stooges in Ottawa are complicit in torture and other gross human rights violations and are hiding these facts from Canada's Parliament or in other words, the Canadian public.

As they say, ignorance of international law since Nuremberg is no excuse. They could be charged, found guilty, and sent away for a long time. I think another Spandau Prison should be constructed to house all of the current war criminals and their vicious toadies.


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Yes Canada signed a few UN  torture conventions ..some the US refused to sign...and some that even took furthur steps than simple condemning and charging. True the stooges in Ottawa should be herded up and shipped to the Hague yesterday for the attrocities they committed in Afghanistan..it's the law...and they have violated a shitload including 3 genocide convention acts of which each are classified as genocide. You all think Kony was bad...You aint seen nothing yet!....What NATO & Canada has pulled off in Afganistan makes what Kony did look like chicken feed...There is the possibility that they were so busy emulating and kissing US butt they failed to realise they are signatories to these conventions, but there own civil servants warned them so it's highly unlikely they could plead tory/liberal ignorance.

My guess is they have gotten away with murdering Canadains under the guise of a variety of local terror incidents, many liberal /tory conspiral coverups also be it Duplessy orphans , gagetown , sarnia , or a host of others that they have been given carde blanche by the "wool pulled over the eyes people and media of Canada" for far to long....FT Macmurry tar oil and the ramifications of living downstream is probably the next incident to cover up and dole out teeny weeny cheques over 50 years from now...

So bad they are now pulling off the ultimate crime in a democratic society and that is the  fixing of an election...which would of been circumvented if they were rounded up and shipped to the Hague when it was first brought to the attention of the Canadian people.

The crimes are now escalating...It's not going to get better as absolute power corrupts their minds folks. As we now witness the introduction of peeping tom laws and charter of rights violations, attacks on the young  ...Our ONLY hope left now is the NDP....that's pretty well  it, after that it's insurgency's all over the place. I know they are preparing for that in the US right now....That's my positive outlook.Laughing

 

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