One summer I went up the Alaska Highway to visit some friends who had moved to the Yukon. The rain and mud on the way was miserable [dirt road back then], but the sun was out for a day before I got to my friends.
When I got there was the first time I had sat still. And the mosquitos just blew my mind.
"Oh yeah, we get most of our annual precipitation in the summer."
Nine months of winter, and then this as your reward?!
Stopped off in Sudbury, on the way to Winnipeg where we are now. Got some divergent views on the strike. Mostly from people not directly involved. Most people seemed generally suportive of the strikers. Most interestingly I ran into a former management guy for Vale. He told me that Vale dumped about half the management staff when they purchased Inco.
Got some other informed commentary from a local activist who has been in touch with the situation, and along with the others I talked to there seemed to be some criticism of how the strike was intitiated and handled. Perhaps the union was not prepared for the knock down drag out struggle they are having with Vale.
I was told that despite Scab labour, the mine is not functioning at 100% capacity and that the rumour is a bad chemical process ended up with 50,000 tons of Nickel going to waste at some point.
On the whole people were supportive, with many "Sudbury Supports our Working Families" signs in many businesses. Seems like most everyone is on-side with the Steelworkers on this one.
In Winnipeg today and for tomorrow, heading to Saskatoon later monday. Be there Tuesday.
Cheers everyone, will try to drop by and meet those who want to as we go.
Yeah. Townhouse. Berni Desjardin's joint. A must see landmark. Went to the Smiling Budha too.
KenS wrote:
Ontario to the West consitutes "cross Canada tour"?
Hmph.
We went that way last summer, this is a continuation of the that tour, and we need to pick up on some missed dates out west. The promoters were really unhappy that we had to skip some dates, what with the baby being born and so on.
All the way to Edmonton now. Had some interesting times in Winnipeg and Saskatoon.
The further we get from Toronto the less G20 seems to make any sense to anyone. Or perhaps better to say, that there is less interest in it overall. Most telling was a brief bus stop in Battleford where a guy from Slave Lake asked me point blank: "What is G20?" After my explanation he then went on to say that he thought Harper's billion dollars would have been better spent cleaning up the Gulf of Mexico. I couldn't disagree of course.
In Saskatoon we managed to hang out with long term Babble friend Al Qabong. Very cool to meet him face to face for the first time. We had dinner at Amigo's and we got to visit Mr. Bong's home where we had a pleasant chat about Babble past and present.
Yeah, that was fun; sitting around sipping beer, talking about the class struggle, hockey, lightning, breast feeding, Palestine and John Entwistle...
Regarding some of our conversation...
"Amal Saad-Ghorayeb is an expert on Hezbollah and her book on the Lebanese party has been widely praised and cited. She taught political science at Lebanese American University in Beirut. Currently, she is a visiting scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace's Middle East Center in Beirut. "
I''ll be filling in for another host tomorrow, and will be airing a talk by Jack Shaheen, author of Reel Bad Arabs at 8:30 CST.
That sounds good. I am here now, and I would love to meet with people seperately or as a group. An inspired get together sounds great. I am just resting up at my families place here in the lower mainland and will be out and about soon.
Oh balls! Part of me says "great! I get to meet Cue and here his activist war stories and geek out!" and then I think "gosh! I don't know Cue from Adam and if I give my adress to him he might give it to people who are less then trustworthy, who would then rob my apartment.
I'm sorry, I know I'm being silly, but I've never done this before. There's an organic cofee place at the entrance of Vancouver Island. The tenants here call it Pedro's, although I'm not sure whether that's still it's name. Could we meet there? It's about 20 minutes from the group home where I live.
Hey. That sounds great. Whereever. I can get down to Granville Island very easily, and I am basically free except for Friday night, so why not just PM me a time and a place and we can meet there, tomorrow afternoon. I don't know about activist war stories. I am actually pretty boring, in real life.
Yes we did! it was a great time.One more example of how Babblers are from uniform. Indeed with each new Babbler I meet I am struck by the diversity of Babblers. Very interesting talking to people in a more social context. The board gets dry sometimes.
I will be going to the Saturday demo for civil liberities at 1:00 pm at the Downtown Vancouver Library. Anyone wants to meet up before and go, let me know.
I met another friend from the ANC later in the day. I hadn't seen him in 20+ years. Friendship born in struggle, if it's genuine to begin with, is friendship for life. The Babblers i met today, for the first time, were much the same.
Off to jericho beach. will not be able to make the demo. am still here on the mainland until monday pm, in case you/cue would like to down a few ales, something we were unable to do, eg, in burnaby there is a great blues place called the marine pub.
It was good. For Vancouver, considering that it was about Toronto, not bad at all. About 200 enthusiastic people. Some people who were identified as the Black Block showed up all in Pink, but not much happened there. Certainly no broken windows. They started a chant: "No Justice! No Peace! Fuck the Police". I heard they had some personal confrontations with some other protestors but this was so much verbal argument, so nothing to serious.
Other than that it was a nice sunny day and the police were perfectly civil and did their job of directing traffic around the march and observing casually from a distance. I think (maybe) they followed the Pink Block contingent as it left the rally, but I didn't see anyone start anything up.
Oeerall good. It was very good to hear from three witnessess to the event, including a young lady who was shot twice by rubber bullets. Don Davies from the NDP said something pretty funny about Dalton McGuinty. Of course one wants there to be a huge crowd but the main thing was that it happened and people are organizing.
We need to keep the upward pressure on the establishment.
That is the problem with organizing in Vancouver, there is always Jericho Beach.
How about tomorrow night? I have no idea where this "Marin Club" is, but I think maybe even I have heard of it. Burnaby, should be able to make that in some form or another.
That sounds cool. But maybe its a bit far out for me for a late night, since we have the logistics of a baby and all. I might be able to swing a baby sitter for 4 hours or so, but the whole night is a bit of a problem. There is a cool place nearer to me that would probably be better, come to think of it.
We had the distinct privilege of being babycue'd this weekend, and I found that I adore both the adult Cue's, above and beyond their blessings of allowing me to be babycue'd.
And yes nbeltov I agree with your assessment. ;)
And aside from the granddaugter's visit, it too was the highlight of my summer, just as al'q indicated it was for him. :D
ETA: have a safe and happy jurney home you two....
Thanks all! It's been swell meeting all these Babblers. Indeed, this trip has really filled in a lot of blanks, and taught me what a diverse and interesting community we all have here.
I'd like to post more and fill everyone in on the great learning experience this has been finding out some of the background on the politics and activism behind the personalities. Amazing, especially the local stories, about politics all over western Canada. However, we are back on the road tomorrow, and booting back to Toronto to take care of business, but perhaps I can add more detail when I have more time.
Thanks for the warning. It should give them time to nail some boards over windows, stack some sand bags etc. Yust kiddin' he he
Could you please PM me your Western itinerary?
You going through Edmonton?
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You may know about Turning the Tide bookstore in Saskatoon. A good place to drop in if you come through.
If you're on southern Vancouver Island then give me a shout. We can save a few ALES. lol.
Doing a fundraising tour for Bucky Haight? And why the fuck is this in National News? Is Cueball that well known?
Moving to Out and About. Have a great trip Cueball.
Ontario to the West consitutes "cross Canada tour"?
Hmph.
*sigh* no one ever visits the Lower North Shore. Not the best time, anyway - the blackflies are bad right now.
and then its winter again
Yup.
One summer I went up the Alaska Highway to visit some friends who had moved to the Yukon. The rain and mud on the way was miserable [dirt road back then], but the sun was out for a day before I got to my friends.
When I got there was the first time I had sat still. And the mosquitos just blew my mind.
"Oh yeah, we get most of our annual precipitation in the summer."
Nine months of winter, and then this as your reward?!
Actually, here we consider six months of winter to be our well-deserved reward for enduring six months of blackflies.
Hey KenS and Boom Boom, please don't get part time jobs working for the tourism industry. I'm getting itchy, and cold, just reading your posts.
I'm going west too, in August. And maybe to Montreal at some point. But I won't drift Cueball's thread anymore.
Doing a fundraising tour for Bucky Haight? And why the fuck is this in National News? Is Cueball that well known?
That infamous maybe.
Stopped off in Sudbury, on the way to Winnipeg where we are now. Got some divergent views on the strike. Mostly from people not directly involved. Most people seemed generally suportive of the strikers. Most interestingly I ran into a former management guy for Vale. He told me that Vale dumped about half the management staff when they purchased Inco.
Got some other informed commentary from a local activist who has been in touch with the situation, and along with the others I talked to there seemed to be some criticism of how the strike was intitiated and handled. Perhaps the union was not prepared for the knock down drag out struggle they are having with Vale.
I was told that despite Scab labour, the mine is not functioning at 100% capacity and that the rumour is a bad chemical process ended up with 50,000 tons of Nickel going to waste at some point.
On the whole people were supportive, with many "Sudbury Supports our Working Families" signs in many businesses. Seems like most everyone is on-side with the Steelworkers on this one.
In Winnipeg today and for tomorrow, heading to Saskatoon later monday. Be there Tuesday.
Cheers everyone, will try to drop by and meet those who want to as we go.
Look me up when you hit Saskatoon, Cueb. I live just down the road from the Merry Mansion (Turning the Tide Bookstore).
Infamous suits you better.
You've already topped most the news pieces on rabble. Send me your address and I've donate $50 to you instead.
wow! The Townhouse! Thanks for that. Makes me almost miss it!
Yeah. Townhouse. Berni Desjardin's joint. A must see landmark. Went to the Smiling Budha too.
Ontario to the West consitutes "cross Canada tour"?
Hmph.
We went that way last summer, this is a continuation of the that tour, and we need to pick up on some missed dates out west. The promoters were really unhappy that we had to skip some dates, what with the baby being born and so on.
All the way to Edmonton now. Had some interesting times in Winnipeg and Saskatoon.
The further we get from Toronto the less G20 seems to make any sense to anyone. Or perhaps better to say, that there is less interest in it overall. Most telling was a brief bus stop in Battleford where a guy from Slave Lake asked me point blank: "What is G20?" After my explanation he then went on to say that he thought Harper's billion dollars would have been better spent cleaning up the Gulf of Mexico. I couldn't disagree of course.
In Saskatoon we managed to hang out with long term Babble friend Al Qabong. Very cool to meet him face to face for the first time. We had dinner at Amigo's and we got to visit Mr. Bong's home where we had a pleasant chat about Babble past and present.
We had a great time.
I will update later with some photos from around
Yeah, that was fun; sitting around sipping beer, talking about the class struggle, hockey, lightning, breast feeding, Palestine and John Entwistle...
Regarding some of our conversation...
"Amal Saad-Ghorayeb is an expert on Hezbollah and her book on the Lebanese party has been widely praised and cited. She taught political science at Lebanese American University in Beirut. Currently, she is a visiting scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace's Middle East Center in Beirut. "
I''ll be filling in for another host tomorrow, and will be airing a talk by Jack Shaheen, author of Reel Bad Arabs at 8:30 CST.
http://www.cfcr.ca/
Cue if you want to visit me, don't come to Fernie. I'm living in Vancouver now.
Hey! That would be cool. I'll be there for a while so we will get together for sure.
What?!? You're skipping Medicine Hat?!? Cue, there was a time ... (Mind you, I was only eleven at most at the time ...)
Hugs, and happy wanderings.
I'll be waiting!
you here yet?
I will be over on the mainland next week. Maybe a Cueball inspired babble get-together? or a few ales.
That sounds good. I am here now, and I would love to meet with people seperately or as a group. An inspired get together sounds great. I am just resting up at my families place here in the lower mainland and will be out and about soon.
Ok, so anyone want to go out for a drink, at some place, at some time, this week somewhere here in Vancouver?
We will likely have our baby.
Sorry, not there this week now. Or would have loved to.
You will have to stop here on the way back. ;)
yea, i'm in.
Hope to see you soon!
"We will likely have our baby."
Eh? Other than congrats on the baby, that comes as a bit of a surprise.
Is there an eastern swing being planned?
Let's do this thing.
Are you channeling Gary Gilmore, Catchfire?
I don't drink. I also find this city a bit intimidating(I officially moved in April) Could we get together at my place of residence?
Of course CMOT. I would love too.
Oh balls! Part of me says "great! I get to meet Cue and here his activist war stories and geek out!" and then I think "gosh! I don't know Cue from Adam and if I give my adress to him he might give it to people who are less then trustworthy, who would then rob my apartment.
I'm sorry, I know I'm being silly, but I've never done this before. There's an organic cofee place at the entrance of Vancouver Island. The tenants here call it Pedro's, although I'm not sure whether that's still it's name. Could we meet there? It's about 20 minutes from the group home where I live.
Hey. That sounds great. Whereever. I can get down to Granville Island very easily, and I am basically free except for Friday night, so why not just PM me a time and a place and we can meet there, tomorrow afternoon. I don't know about activist war stories. I am actually pretty boring, in real life.
How long are ya staying?
Til the begining of August.
Let me know when you're back and what I can do!
CMOT, N.Beltov, and Cue, along with Cue Jr. and Mrs. Cue met today at Granville Island. Woo hoo
Yes we did! it was a great time.One more example of how Babblers are from uniform. Indeed with each new Babbler I meet I am struck by the diversity of Babblers. Very interesting talking to people in a more social context. The board gets dry sometimes.
I will be going to the Saturday demo for civil liberities at 1:00 pm at the Downtown Vancouver Library. Anyone wants to meet up before and go, let me know.
I swear man, next time I'll do better.:(
There was so much that didn't get covered and my charm just seemed to evaporate. You weren't too offended right?
Give the kid a big hug from me.:)
We had a great time. There is only so much that can be covered in so much time. I wish we hadn`t been late
I met another friend from the ANC later in the day. I hadn't seen him in 20+ years. Friendship born in struggle, if it's genuine to begin with, is friendship for life. The Babblers i met today, for the first time, were much the same.
Off to jericho beach. will not be able to make the demo. am still here on the mainland until monday pm, in case you/cue would like to down a few ales, something we were unable to do, eg, in burnaby there is a great blues place called the marine pub.
How did the civil liberties demo go?
It was good. For Vancouver, considering that it was about Toronto, not bad at all. About 200 enthusiastic people. Some people who were identified as the Black Block showed up all in Pink, but not much happened there. Certainly no broken windows. They started a chant: "No Justice! No Peace! Fuck the Police". I heard they had some personal confrontations with some other protestors but this was so much verbal argument, so nothing to serious.
Other than that it was a nice sunny day and the police were perfectly civil and did their job of directing traffic around the march and observing casually from a distance. I think (maybe) they followed the Pink Block contingent as it left the rally, but I didn't see anyone start anything up.
Oeerall good. It was very good to hear from three witnessess to the event, including a young lady who was shot twice by rubber bullets. Don Davies from the NDP said something pretty funny about Dalton McGuinty. Of course one wants there to be a huge crowd but the main thing was that it happened and people are organizing.
We need to keep the upward pressure on the establishment.
Im sorry i missed it. I got broiled at Jericho Beach Park instead.
That is the problem with organizing in Vancouver, there is always Jericho Beach.
How about tomorrow night? I have no idea where this "Marin Club" is, but I think maybe even I have heard of it. Burnaby, should be able to make that in some form or another.
Marine Pub. Live blues I think. I will call you tomorrow ... at a reasonable hour.
That sounds cool. But maybe its a bit far out for me for a late night, since we have the logistics of a baby and all. I might be able to swing a baby sitter for 4 hours or so, but the whole night is a bit of a problem. There is a cool place nearer to me that would probably be better, come to think of it.
No music but a good crowd. Lets talk tomorrow.
no problemo.
I'll call between 6 and 7. tonight.
Sufficed to say, the pleasure of meeting the Cueball family today was mine.
Thank you. It was very nice to meet you as well. We have been having a good time meeting all these different Babblers.
So far, meeting the Cuebs has been the highlight of my summer.
Careful with that nickname form. Nobody wants to read the last two letters the wrong way.

Heh.
Any plans for the long weekend?
Well.....must say;
We had the distinct privilege of being babycue'd this weekend, and I found that I adore both the adult Cue's, above and beyond their blessings of allowing me to be babycue'd.
And yes nbeltov I agree with your assessment. ;)
And aside from the granddaugter's visit, it too was the highlight of my summer, just as al'q indicated it was for him. :D
ETA: have a safe and happy jurney home you two....
... three...
Thanks all! It's been swell meeting all these Babblers. Indeed, this trip has really filled in a lot of blanks, and taught me what a diverse and interesting community we all have here.
I'd like to post more and fill everyone in on the great learning experience this has been finding out some of the background on the politics and activism behind the personalities. Amazing, especially the local stories, about politics all over western Canada. However, we are back on the road tomorrow, and booting back to Toronto to take care of business, but perhaps I can add more detail when I have more time.
Thanks again, all!
Cheers!
Yes, of course, you 3, silly me, given the babycue is most important afterall...and clearly reads well... :D ;)
You are more than welcome anytime at all.