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Harper Gov endorses cluster bombs
May 1, 2012 - 6:09pm
War is Peace--and cluster bomb use is "anti"-cluster bomb legislation.
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The Orwellian signing of Canadian version of the "anti"-cluster bomb treaty is designed to mandate Canadian use of cluster bombs.
In the Ottawa Citizen, Canadian negotiator Turcott said:
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Canada/6537911/story.html
These "exceptions" ARE the rule.
When was the last time that Canada made war as NOT a partner of the non-signator United States ?
With the ongoing integration of Canadian Forces with the US, the only unlikely exception would be if Canada independently went to war without being part of a US action. [edited]
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Canada/6537911/story.html
Cluster bombs are deliberately designed so that a certain number of bomblets explode long after the weapon has been dropped, and at irregular intervals. That's to inflict fear in an enemy's mind that an area is still unsafe. Then the soldiers move out and after a while civilians move in, and that's when non-combatants get killed and maimed. It's no different than what's going on in Laos and Cambodia where farmers today are suffering from bombs dropped in the 60's and 70's.
Oh, and Canada has never used cluster bombs.
Well, now they will be able to, thanks to the anti-cluster bomb legislation provisions:
Gee how do you know what ordinance the RCAF dropped on Libya? Does anyone know how many Canadian pilots are flying combat missions for other countries? It happened in Iraq when Canada officially was not involved so I presume secondment must still be pretty standard procedure. We have Canadian officers giving orders to other nation's troops in Afghanistan.
This must have been designed by a financial lawyer since it seems to put our nasty stuff off book into an account that doesn't get reported as the RCAF.
another great accomplishment of the canadian government. we can file this right next to sending people to be tortured and endorsing military attacks on innocent civilians.
I knew it! It's when the protective military contingent leaves and the suicidal civilians move in that all the death and destruction takes place! Thanks for the confirmation, CON_FARCES.
1. It's my job to know. If you want to know who's dropped cluster bombs in the past 2-3 years, google Israel and Syria.
2. Secondment continues, and Canadian military personnel continue to serve with their attached units, and theirs with ours.
It doesn't matter if Canada uses them or not. We don't have nukes anymore but we enjoyed being under the nuke umbrella for many years and counting. We didn't employ DU munitions over Libya, but we were the beneficiaries of the employment of DU munitions by other countries like the US, by dint of our being a member of that particular coalition of the willing. If Canada is engaged in a military action in concert with others, we certainly have no qualms about taking our share of whatever glory they might fashion out of it. Witness all the political parties backslapping the troops for a job well done in Libya. We can't very well just accept the good bits, while at the same time denying association with the stuff we say we don't like to do ourselves, but that ultimately helped get us to the good bits. Well, the hypocrites can as hypocrite logic typically provides for, but it doesn't mean everyone is hoodwinked by the false distinctions.
I agree with most of what you wrote SJ but how far does the "hypocrites" distinction go? I'm sure you would never enslave anyone, but if you're using an Apple product right now are you helping to enslave the people at Foxconn?
Canada doesn't have nuclear, DU, chemical, or biological weapons, but we trade with those who have them or have used them (China, Russia, US, Israel, etc etc). Our list of trade partners is going to be very limited.
Sorry but I don't accept some poster on babble as an authority. Do you have any facts or are do you just expect people will take your word as the gospel truth. Where do I go to get a list of the ordinance that all Canadian personnel dropped on Libya? I couldn't find it on Google.
If it is your job to know are you posting from a military computer?
Wise man, because on the internet nobody knows you're a dog.
Anyway, open source information was released a couple of weeks ago:
http://www.canada.com/Canada+spent+bombing+Gadhafi+forces/6480634/story....
And no, I'm not posting from a military computer.
My question was in regard to all personnel specifically because we are talking about exemptions including when pilots are seconded. So thanks for that information that I have seen before but I am still wondering whether there were Canadians on secondment and what did they drop on the towns and cities.
Remind me again what Libya did to Canada to cause us to drop bombs on them?
There were Canadians seconded to various air forces and navies. On the air side it was limited to AWACS crews. No seconded Canadians were dropping bombs of any kind.
As far as I know Libya did absolutely nothing to Canada. In fact SNC-Lavalin was doing great business there building prisons.