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Online Surveillance Act Coming Soon

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The bill is expected to contain provisions from previous similar bills that have raised the concerns of privacy watchdogs and consumer advocates. Those "lawful access" provisions would:

  • Require internet service providers to give subscriber data to police and national security agencies without a warrant, including names, unlisted phone numbers and IP addresses.
  • Force internet providers and other makers of technology to provide a "back door" to make communications accessible to police.
  • Allow police to get warrants to obtain information transmitted over the internet and data related to its transmission, including locations of individuals and transactions.
  • Allow courts to compel other parties to preserve electronic evidence

No one should be surprised by any of this, nor should any be caught unaware by the fact, as demonstrated by the public safety minister, that people who object to 24/7 electronic eveasdropping of the population would be likened to the most heinous criminals in society.  It was inevitable that the system would mandate wholesale electronic monitoring, to such an extent with this newest normal that their comings, goings, and locations could be recorded, and that their inconsistent thoughts could be more readily scanned and catalogued by level of threat.  They can do all of this now of course, but this removes the formality and inconvenience of oversight by the court system.  There would be no way to monitor the monitors.

NuclearJeff

I cringe to know that this IDIOT got elected in my riding.   http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02/14/online-surveillance-bill-critics-are-siding-with-child-pornographers-vic-toews/

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Opponents of the proposed law claim it is 'untenable', but Mr. Toews said yesterday that people "can either stand with us or with the child pornographers."

How about I side with the people who don't want their personal information gift wrapped and handed to indentity theives.  Forced creation of backdoor programs to monitor traffic = golden ticket for hackers looking for a quick score.  Not to mention that child pornography isn't caused by the internet.  It existed long before digital media, and it will not be stopped by this bill.  If the best and brightest in data encyption worked for the RCMP, maybe.  But they don't.  They'll still be chasing their tails, and the internet will still be unpolicable.  Somedays I feel i'd be better off in Mexico.  At least the cartels don't lie about trying to screw you.

I'll be writing my letters today.  I encourage everyone to do the same. 

Buddy Kat

This is really weird comparing people who are against the peeping tom spy bill to child molesters when it was the conservatives that wanted to place little under age kids in prisons populated with child molesters in the first place, so the pedophilic prison population can have there way with them in the penal institutions ....then they go on building prisons to place pot heads in them , which face it for the most part are young people for what? the same reason...

 If anything the conservatives are the promotters and proliferators of kiddy porn and all abuse that comes with it.....now looking one notch worse than a NAZI regime ...complete with NAZI concentration kiddy sex camps..how shameful...yep one notch worse.  The conservative suppoerters ARE the ones on the side of child pornographers, how shameful and no wonder Trudeau is entertaining seperating from such a rotten and cruel government.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0eQgUpkJ1Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns8LD5Q8ecc

 

 

contrarianna

NuclearJeff wrote:

I cringe to know that this IDIOT got elected in my riding.   http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02/14/online-surveillance-bill-critics-are-siding-with-child-pornographers-vic-toews/

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Opponents of the proposed law claim it is 'untenable', but Mr. Toews said yesterday that people "can either stand with us or with the child pornographers."

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Don't we have a choice in being smeared anymore? Could we opt to "stand with the terrists" instead, or am I confusing Con smears?

Okay, I think I've got it straight now: You are a terrorist pornographer if you are an environmentalist who is against warrentless universal state spying--but your identity can still be protected if you carry a long gun.

NDPP

also some links here;

http://rabble.ca/comment/1315971

contrarianna

Here's what Toews' claim of respect for the confidentiality of information is worth. And it goes without saying with such a person in charge of total internet personal information it would never be used for political advantage:

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During a legislative debate in June 1999, Toews accused NDP Justice Critic Gord Mackintosh of mischief for repeatedly calling the province's Street Peace gang hotline only to hang up before leaving a message.

Calls to the hotline were meant to be confidential and anonymous, but Toews later acknowledged that calls from government buildings had been tracked and that he received Mackintosh's name from an employee in his department.

Premier Filmon described Toews's conduct in the matter as inappropriate. During the fallout from this controversy, Toews was forced to admit that the hotline had gone unanswered for several months.[29]...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vic_Toews

bekayne
deb93

Welcome news ... :) I guess it finally occurred to some Conservative Canadians, maybe even some powerful ones, that they too could be subject to unwanted surveillance and invasion of privacy. The 'cops' themselves who push for this invasion of privacy power over others could themselves become the subjects of unwanted 'attention'.

"Tories backpedal ..."
Music to my ears. :D

[url=http://m.torontosun.com/2012/02/15/tories-backpedal-on-lawful-access-bil... backpedal on lawful access bill[/url] The Conservative government went into full retreat after the bill created a public uproar over concerns it would infringe on the privacy rights of Canadians. It garnered negative press across the country and had advocates for Internet privacy up in arms. The bill as drafted even failed to gain traction among some members of the the Conservative caucus. "I think it's too intrusive as it currently stands and does need to be looked at," said New Brunswick Tory MP John Williamson. "There's a lot of concern I think across the country."

bekayne

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/margaret-wente/on-internet-privacy-im-with-the-child-pornographers/article2339941/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS%2FAtom&utm_source=Politics&utm_content=2339941

But wait! Isn’t this the same government that whipped up moral panic over the gun registry and the long-form census? In each case, they told us our right to privacy was threatened by egregious intrusions from the state. The state has no business knowing how many bathrooms you have – but if it wants access to your online activities, hey, that’s totally okay. (The fact that Mr. Toews’s own privacy was invaded Wednesday on Twitter is an irony I shall leave to others.)

bekayne
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bekayne

Boom Boom wrote:

What's he doing with his hands?

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#tellviceverything

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The internet can be a cruel place. Public Safety Minister Vic Toews, the force behind the online surveillance legislation, Bill C-30, can attest to that. Yesterday, an anonymous user set up a Twitter account that revealed alleged details from Toews' personal life.

 

On Thursday, the backlash against Toews took a humourous turn. Instead of tweeting details about Toews, users created the #TellVicEverything hashtag to share the banal details of their lives. Even MP Justin Trudeau got into the act, telling Toews, "last night I promised my wife I'd wake up early for yoga, but repeatedly snooze-buttoned instead."

 

Here are some of the best tweets from the #TellVicEverything hashtag

Second-best hashtag from this boondoggle: #donttoewsmebro

Breaking:

Vikileaks30 linked to House of Commons IP address

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In a bid to determine the origin of the account, which details personal information about Public Safety Minister Vic Toews, The Citizen undertook an investigation on Thursday.

An email was sent to the writer of the Vikileaks30 Twitter account, containing a link to a website. The website was monitored by The Citizen and only the author of Vikileaks30 had the address of the website.

About 15 minutes after sending the email, Vikileaks30 opened the link and visited the page, leaving behind an IP address that belongs to the House of Commons.

The Vikileaks30 Twitter account surged into public prominence in the wake of the tabling of new legislation that would have allowed increased police surveillance of the Internet and those that use it.

A string of tweets posted online portions of alleged details relating to Toews’s divorce proceedings.

The tweets began late Tuesday night and were posted directly in response to the tabling of the government’s “lawful access” bill.

The legislation, named the “Protecting Children from Internet Predators Act”, requires Internet service providers and cellphone companies to install equipment for real-time surveillance and will create new police powers designed to access the surveillance data.

The bill also allows for warrantless access to some subscriber information.

“Vic wants to know about you. Let’s get to know about Vic,” read the first tweet.

“Let’s start with affidavits from Vic’s divorce case.”

Boom Boom Boom Boom's picture

Justin Trudeau just now on Facebook:
"During Question Period John Baird dropped by and I asked him to tell Vic Toews that I had to pee. He didn't know we "tell Vic Everything". Awkward."

 LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing

contrarianna

Catchfire wrote:

 

Breaking:

Vikileaks30 linked to House of Commons IP address

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In a bid to determine the origin of the account, which details personal information about Public Safety Minister Vic Toews, The Citizen undertook an investigation on Thursday.

An email was sent to the writer of the Vikileaks30 Twitter account, containing a link to a website. The website was monitored by The Citizen and only the author of Vikileaks30 had the address of the website.

About 15 minutes after sending the email, Vikileaks30 opened the link and visited the page, leaving behind an IP address that belongs to the House of Commons....


Intrepid Investigative Reporting --Ottawa Citizen style: comforting the Con-fortable.

And now kiddies, Ottawa Citizen Campfire Horror Stories, (flashlight lighting face from below):

"We have finally traced the harassing calls
and....O MY GOD, GET OUT NOW, The tweets are coming
FROM WITHIN THE HOUSE!!!
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A dissenting opinion:
Nobody should lose their job for telling Canadians the truth about Vic Toews

By Charlie Smith, February 17, 2012
The Strait
http://www.straight.com/article-610386/vancouver/nobody-should-lose-thei...

 

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Evan Solomon just said on P&P that Toews told him on "The House" he hasn't read three sections of his own bill yet.  

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P&P just had an expert confirm that you can not tie any one person down to a computer on the Hill just using the IP address. He also said this is the reality of politics today - if you attack the Internet, you can expect the Internet to bite back - hard.

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Gov't faces unprecedented challenge with Twitter

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We will examine these issues on CTV's Question Period this Sunday, with politicians from all parties, including a representative from the Prime Minister's Office, and with experts on the use of social media.