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Enbridge offered First Nations cash to study whether to support pipeline

VICTORIA - An aboriginal organization leading the fight to prevent oil tankers on the British Columbia coast once took money from Enbridge Inc., (TSX:ENB), the company planning to sail those same ships larger than the Empire State Building along the coast.

Coastal First Nations executive director Art Sterritt said Monday his organization received $100,000 from Enbridge, but that didn't translate into support for the company's proposed $5.5-billion pipeline project.

Sterritt estimates Enbridge has provided up to $1 million to B.C. First Nations to study the pipeline. Most First Nations contacted by The Canadian Press would only say they accepted money from the company, but wouldn't confirm amounts....

http://thetyee.ca/CanadianPress/2012/02/14/Enbridge-Deals-17044340/


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Feds Hid Names of Big Oil Companies At Lobby Retreat

http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/Feds+names+companies+lobbying+re...

"The Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade has deliberately attempted to conceal key details about a taxpayer funded lobbying training retreat it organized last year in London Englad for its European diplomats to promote the oilsands, including names of major corporations involved and concerns raised at the meeting about whether its strategy was 'credible'..."


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From the Nathan Cullen thread:

Nathan Cullen wrote:

 

Hello Boom Boom

Good and sadly relevant question

Mr. Harper would almost certainly try to "overrule" an NEB rejection of Gateway two things come to mind: the law may not allow him to. Second, the people I've met and the folks I represent won't let that kind of injustice take place

He's put the whole process in disrepute with his bullying and put Canadians into a real state of anger by his attempted bullying. Bad move

 


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also from the Nathan Cullen thread:

 

Howard wrote:

Boom Boom wrote:

I really hate to beg while time flies by so quickly, but if Nathan could suggest a plan of action if Harper overrides a negative evaluation of the Northern Gateway Pipeline, I'll be really, really happy.

Civil disobedience!

I like the idea of organised civil disobedience, if all else fails.

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Councillors in Terrace, BC, vote to oppose Northern Gateway project

TERRACE, B.C. - One of the largest cities in northwestern British Columbia has officially joined the opposition to the Enbridge Inc., (TSX:ENB) Northern Gateway project.

Councillors in Terrace have voted 5-2 to oppose plans for construction of the $5.5-billion pipeline from the Edmonton-area to Kitimat, 60 kilometres south of Terrace, where a tanker port would be built to ship oil sands crude to Asia.

The Monday night vote ends years of fence-sitting by Terrace councillors, with one noting the pipeline and port are good for Ottawa and Alberta, but leave Terrace, Kitimat and the surrounding communities with few benefits and most of the risk.....

http://thetyee.ca/Blogs/TheHook/BC-Politics/2012/02/15/TerraceVote/


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'We are going to need two or three Enbridge-Keystones': Liepert

Alberta's oil sands are expanding so fast that such pipeline proposals as Enbridge's Northern Gateway and TransCanada's Keystone XL are just the beginning, says Alberta finance minister Ron Liepert.

“Keystone is only one of them, Enbridge is only one of them, but the reality is by 2020 we are going to need two or three Enbridge-Keystones,” Liepert recently told Bloomberg-Businessweek.

Oil sands production is expected to reach three million barrels per day over the next eight years, about double the current output, according to the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers....

http://thetyee.ca/Blogs/TheHook/Environment/2012/02/15/enbridge-keystone...


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On Facebook just now:

Nathan Cullen: "Talking about the Northern Gateway Pipeline with CBC before going to testify this morning."

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Boom Boom wrote:

Nathan Cullen wrote:

Mr. Harper would almost certainly try to "overrule" an NEB rejection of Gateway two things come to mind: the law may not allow him to. Second, the people I've met and the folks I represent won't let that kind of injustice take place.

Unfortunately Cullen is wrong on both counts.

The law only requires Harper to have the NEB look at the matter and make a recommendation. It does not require Harper to accept the recommendation of the NEB.

Politicians always talk about the views of the people they have spoken to, and invariably those people allegedly always support what the politician wants. The fact is that the people with economic and political power in this country want the Northern Gateway Pipeline, and those people always get their way. Nathan Cullen and the NDP aren't going to stop them.

 


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Civil disobedience, then - if necessary. Maybe court challenges? And if Dix wins the election, maybe another strategy will arise.


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Court challenges won't work because Harper has the law on his side.

Adrian Dix can't do anything. And anything he tried would have to have a mandate from the voters, coming foreseeably so soon after an election. He would have to campaign hard on an unequivocal anti-pipeline program.


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Here Comes the Bribe

As opposition mounts to Northern Gateway, backers will promise big bucks for BC.

Alberta Premier Alison Redford stated in a recent speech that her government is looking to "clear a path for the oil sands through British Columbia by upping the economic benefits for its western neighbour -- including the option of paying to modernize and expand West Coast ports."

Premiers don't just throw that sort of stuff around and I believe that this speech foretells an ever increasing policy of the federal government and Alberta to bribe First Nations and the rest of B.C. citizens alike.

Here is why we must not take the bribe....

http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2012/02/20/Alberta-Oil-Bribe/


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My bets are, Dix wants to announce pipeline opposition but he also wants to wait until the upcoming byelections are resolved, to give the party momentum.


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My bets are Dix will take the bribe.


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'It's Going To Be War': First Nations Battle Canadian Tar Sands

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/02/20-4?nocache=1


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All Fossil Fuels Must Be Cut to Avoid Global Warming Scientists Say

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/fossil+fuels+must+avoid+global+warm...

"Two Canadian climate scientists from the University of Victoria say the public reaction to their recently published has missed their key message: That all forms of fossil fuels, including the oilsands and coal, must be regulated for the world to avoid dangerous global warming..."


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There are very good reasons for the public reaction missing their key message.

For one, the two scientists did not handle the media well. They should at the very least have put out a press release and published it on the web. Instead they gave interviews, full of nice soundbites that the right-wing media could take out of context to imply that the tar sands emissions are no big deal. The climate change denial industry and the ethical oil people are wetting themselves with delight.

For another thing, their article is not available for people to actually read without paying a whack of money to the publisher, so the MSM gets to twist and distort what it says with very few people being in a position to see for themselves.


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Enbridge Gets Supertanker Nod for Northern Gateway Exports

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/enbridge-gets-supertanker-...

"Supertankers can safely carry huge volumes of oil sands crude through the winding waterways that connect Kitimat BC to the open Pacific, a federal review has concluded, giving a boost to efforts to build a new pipeline to the West Coast. The review by Transport Canada examined the marine passages that would allow the proposed Enbridge Inc. Northern Gateway pipeline to export Alberta oil to buyers in China and California. That $6.6 billion project has become one of the country's most important industrial initiatives, backed by major energy producers and opposed by a raft of first nations and environmental groups.."


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I'll have to read the actual report but this all seems very iffy. Yes, oil can be carried safely though those passages IF the weather isn't too bad, IF there isn't an earthquake or tsunami, IF the helmsman isn't wasted, etc. A problem only has to happen once for a serious disaster.

 

Found it! That took a while.


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Our supply ship a few years ago breached its hull while navigating through the deep waters of Harrington Harbour - a journey its made thousands of times without incident. One time was all it took for the ship to be placed in an emergency position (no one was injured, the ship went into drydock and was repaired).


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New Board Game! Pandas and Pipelines!

From Harper Brothers.

 


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As for the current expansion underway at Ft. Mac, and the "two or three Keystone Enbridges" - it must be stopped somehow.

  Play it their way - financial disobedience? Make the oil sands unprofitable... perhaps with "added expenses" that certain forms of disobedience can provide. Calling Weibo!!

 

 


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Federal budget to include measures to speed up energy approval process

Finance Minister Jim Flaherty plans to include new measures to expedite environmental approvals for energy projects in next week’s budget, as part of efforts to build new pipelines that will help the country tap into growing Asian demand for oil, a person familiar with the document said.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s Conservative government has vowed to speed the regulatory review process for projects such as pipelines, as the country seeks to build oil-exporting capacity after U.S. President Barack Obama in January denied TransCanada Corp. a permit for its Keystone XL pipeline to the U.S. New rules to quicken approvals will be part of the March 29 budget, the person said on condition they not be identified because the fiscal plan hasn’t been made public....

http://business.financialpost.com/2012/03/20/federal-budget-to-include-m...


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Native-led oil pipeline protest draws hundreds to Vancouver Art Gallery

Protesters marching through downtown Vancouver Monday promised to fight big oil and big government and put a stop to proposed pipeline expansions in B.C.

Chanting native elders wearing button blankets and pounding drums led more than 300 marchers to the Vancouver Art Gallery for a noon rally where they were joined by hundreds more.

Pipelines proposed by Kinder Morgan and Enbridge require First Nations support, and if Monday’s rally is any indication there is plenty of opposition in that camp.

Grand Chief Stewart Phillip was one of many high-powered native leaders who said Prime Minister Stephen Harper has bitten off more than he can chew if he thinks more oil tankers will be allowed on B.C.’s west coast.

“We all know this government is a few clowns short of a circus, and that this fight will intensify,” said

Phillip. “I will tell my grandchildren that you were here today, and we will win this, and we will make this a better world.”....

www.theprovince.com/news/Native+pipeline+protest+draws+hundreds+Vancouver+Gallery/6362144/story.html#ixzz1qSv5GSAG

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Rally planned for Gateway Project hearings in Comox (tidechange.ca)

March 31, 2012 1:00 P.M. at Comox Rec. Centre 1855 Noel Ave.

 

 


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BC Grand Chief Stewart Phillip was just on P&P to say that by fast-tracking envornmental reviews in the budget, that he has forced First Nations to the courts and barricades - I think he has Oka in mind.

ETA: Joe Oliver just said the aboriginals will see it is their interest not to block these projects - meaning a lot of money is going  to be shovelled at them.

ETA: Greg Weston just said this could be the beginning of a really ugly confrontation because the government is determined to ram Northern Gateway through, come hell or high water.

 


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..more on the van demo

No Tankers Rally – March 26

On Monday March 26—in part to mark the 23rd anniversary of the Exxon Valdez disaster—activists in Vancouver organized the “No Tankers” rally at the Vancouver Art Gallery. Almost 2000 people showed up on a rainy Monday at noon to hear speakers from indigenous and activist communities, as well as special guests like Bill McKibben of 350.org. Two Thousand. On a Monday. In the rain. As Ben West of the Wilderness Committee noted, “If I was a politician in the Conservative Party I’d be shaking in my boots.” As we keep saying in this movement, this is only the beginning—but what a beginning we’ve been making!...

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NO TANKERS March 26 VAG All Speeches

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2sA0OFpWgU



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..just finished listening to the no tanker speeches. i recommend that people take the time to listen. very inspiring to say the very least. the youngest speaker was 11 yrs old. check ot the link  to the declaration below.

Exploring the possibilities of a coalition, the groups assembled here agreed on a variety of basic points: following First Nations’ lead in the struggle against the pipeline projects (most clearly and forcefully stated in the Fraser River Declaration); addressing the fact that all our crises —environmental, economic, and social—are part and parcel of one crisis leading back to the disenfranchisement of the 99%

 


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Northern Gateway hearings in limbo as rowdy welcome unsettles panel

The first day of a planned four-day hearing by the joint review panel examining the Enbridge Northern Gateway Pipeline project was cancelled in Bella Bella, B.C.

A terse update posted on the Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency web page dealing with the Northern Gateway review panel said the three members would not be sitting on Monday.

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Ms. Slett said a notice from the joint panel was received shortly after members Sheila Leggett, Kenneth Bateman and Hans Matthews arrived at the Bella Bella airport to a rowdy welcome by demonstrators.

Opponents also lined the road from the airport to the village to demonstrate concerns about the plan to pipe Alberta oil across B.C. to port in Kitimat for shipment overseas.

Ms. Slett told the community meeting that the airport reception was emotional and powerful, but remained respectful and peaceful.

“We want to let them know that they are completely safe in our community. It is really offensive to have to go over to convey this to the Joint Review Panel. We are a peaceful people,” she said....

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/northern-g...


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First nations school protests Northern Gateway pipeline

Public hearings on the proposed Northern Gateway pipeline resume on Monday in the coastal community of Bella Bella, where the federal review panel was met by protesting students and teachers from the local first nations school.

Staff at the Bella Bella Community School organized the protest to greet the panel members as they arrived on Sunday. Some of the students have launched a hunger strike as well to protest against the plan by Enbridge to transport Alberta’s oil-sands crude across B.C. to reach markets in Asia and California.

Once the hearings resume, it’s another day to chip away at a list of some 4,300 members of the public who want to make oral submissions. B.C. first nations have been among the leading opponents of the pipeline, but the people who want to address the panel span the globe, according to the project proponent.

Changes announced last week to the environmental assessment process could trim that list, however.

The streamlined review process announced in the federal budget last Thursday, which will be retroactive, is supposed to ensure that major projects such as Enbridge’s $6.6-billion pipeline will be reviewed in a two-year timeframe.

A spokesman for Enbridge said Sunday it’s not clear just how that will apply to this application, which is coming up on the second anniversary this spring.

“The minister has spoken about shortening the process, it will be interesting to see how that will be accomplished,” said Paul Stanway, Enbridge’s spokesman.

“One of the issues that has bothered us is the number of people who have registered to make oral statements,” he said. “We need to set some guidelines for this, about who should be heard by the joint review panel. It surprised everybody, it’s the first time we’ve seen an organized attempt to overwhelm the process. We need to make these decisions in a timely manner.”....

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/first-nati...


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Analysis: Stephen Harper Faces Tricky Terrain During 'Three Amigos' Summit

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1155077--analysis-stephen-harp...

"The White House meeting will focus on the themes of 'North American competitiveness, CITIZEN SECURITY, and the Americas, Andrew MacDougall, a spokesman for the PMO said in a statement...

It's what happens after, when Harper shifts to the Woodrow Wilson Center for what is billed as a world-wide open conversation on the US-Canada relationship, where the going could get interesting - an ostensibly unfiltered hour of questioning that will dangle, among other things, the political pinata of Keystone XL..."

Director's Forum With the Right Honorable Stephen Harper

http://www.wilsoncenter.org/


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