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One Million Wisconsinites: Recall Gov. Walker

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One Million Wisconsinites: Recall Gov. Walker Uprising has 'potential to rock the politics not just of the state but of the nation in 2012'

Agencies are reporting that organizers of the effort to recall Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker have submitted more than one million signatures, far beyond the number needed to force a recall election.

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports: It would mark the first such gubernatorial recall in state history and would be only the third gubernatorial recall election in U.S. history. Organizers Tuesday also handed in 845,000 signatures against Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch as well as petitions against four GOP state senators including Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald of Juneau.

The sheer number of signatures being filed against Walker - nearly as many as the total votes cast for the governor in November 2010 and almost twice as many as those needed to trigger a recall election - ensure the election will be held, said officials with the state Democratic Party and United Wisconsin, the group that launched the Walker recall.

"It is beyond legal challenge," said Ryan Lawler, vice chairman of United Wisconsin....

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/01/17-6


Slumberjack
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Oddly enough, in this the Wisconsonites appear to enjoy more democracy than we do.  We're stuck with our current village idiot until at least the next one manages to make a convincing enough showing of it.


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I'm not wild about this move.  Putting aside that I have a philosophical problem with the recall concept, if Walker wins the recall election, which he's probably even money to do, he will be stronger than ever.  And it will make it that much harder to oust him in 2014.


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What Wisconsin Will Recall

In the year since the uprising against Governor Scott Walker’s attacks on public unions, employees, and services, the outrage of Wisconsin’s citizens has been compressed into a single word: recall. But some are discussing what next, if the recalls are successful. Will they be enough to take Wisconsin forward?

While spring bursts into Wisconsin, things look bleak for Walker. After investigations of illegal activity in his administration during his 2002-2008 service as Milwaukee county executive, including 15 felony charges against former staff, Walker has opened a legal defense fund in his name, something elected officials may do only if they are being investigated for a violation of law. While the specifics of the “John Doe” case are not yet public, Walker’s opening of the defense fund suggests he is implicated in the charges.

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To Endorse, or Not

One union, the Teaching Assistants’ Association, Local 3220 AFT at the University of Wisconsin, is hotly debating this question. At TAA’s last membership meeting, February 23, members voted to adopt a set of criteria necessary to endorse a recall candidate. TAA would not endorse any candidate who doesn’t state an intent to repeal all of Act 10—which would mean not only reinstating collective bargaining rights but also restoring cuts to wages and benefits (about a 9 percent pay cut) and cuts to public services. These cuts include removing 53,000 people from BadgerCare, the state health care program, and $1.6 billion in cuts to public education....

http://labornotes.org/2012/03/what-wisconsin-will-recall


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Divided Wis. unions could spell win for Scott Walker

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This is the drama unfolding at the Teaching Assistants Association, which represents graduate students and project assistants from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. No union is more identified with the anti-Walker mobilization. Days after he introduced his bill to gut collective bargaining, TAA members showed up at the state capitol, sleeping bags in hand, and kicked off what became a 16-day occupation. That emboldened Democratic senators to flee the state to deny Walker a quorum – bringing national media attention to the controversy.

Now a month before the May 8 primary, two Democrats, former Dane County Executive Kathleen Falk and Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, are neck-and-neck at the front of the pack. And TAA members are split on what to do about it.

At issue is whether the union should support a candidate who hasn’t pledged to restore cuts to public workers’ wages and benefits — one of the criteria the TAA originally listed as a a prerequisite for an endorsement. Falk, who entered the race in January, is the only candidate who has pledged to veto any budget that doesn’t restore collective bargaining rights. But she also frequently touts the $10 million in concessions that she secured in negotiations with local unions as county executive. Barrett, who entered the race Friday, is more problematic when it comes to cuts: Last year, as the debate over collective bargaining raged, he told a conservative radio host that he opposed Walker’s collective bargaining changes but supported his proposed cuts.....

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/05/divided_wisc_unions_could_spell_win_for_...


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R-Day in Wisconsin today.

Where's Obama?

Wisconsin holds recall more than a year in making

 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/wisconsin-holds-recall-more-th...


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Wisconsin Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch speaks at a rally held by the Racine Tea Party PAC in Gorney Park in Caledonia, Wis. near Racine on Saturday, June 2, 2012. The rally was held in opposition to the Tuesday, June 5, recall election in which Democratic opponents are running against incumbents Gov. Scott Walker, Kleefisch and state Sen. Van Wanggaard of Racine. (AP Photo/Mark Hertzberg) Wisconsin: Kleefisch is first lieutenant governor to face recall

 

 

http://www.twincities.com/allheadlines/ci_20783124/kleefisch-hoping-keep...


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He's what's interesting about this recall to me: The whole catalyst for the recall was Walker's draconian restrictions on collective bargaining rights for public-sector unions (after that legislation passed, over the protests of tens of thousands of people at the state capitol, the unions when into action to collect enough petition signatures to trigger a recall vote).  But, in the actual campaign, there is very little discussion of that core issue because Barrett has learned that the average voter actually either supports Walker on that issue or is ambivalent.  So, the key issue that sparked this recall has been made a sideline issue, at best, and I think that has taken some of the fervor out of the anti-Walker movement.

Living in Minnesota on the Wisconsin border, I'm inundated with information in the local and state media regarding this race.  One thing that is interesting is the massive financial advantage that Walker has (as of a few weeks ago, Walker had raised about $25 million to Barrett's $900,000).  The unions are claiming that it's just "big money" supporting Walker.  But, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel analyzed the number of contributions to each campaign and the average campaign contribution to both candidates was about $120 (the average contribution was actually slightly higher for Barrett than for Walker).  So, really, for every contribution to Barrett, there were about 25 contributions to Walker.  That says to me that it's not so much about "big money" supporting Walker as the fact that, ironically, his supporters are far more engaged in this election that Barrett's supporters.

I think Walker probably has this in the bag.  Besides, even if he were to lose, reversing the policy changes that he implemented will be next-to-impossible.  One of the effects of Walker's policy is that union membership has dropped in half for many of the public-sector unions.  Why?  Because the automatic collection of union dues from paychecks was changed from an opt-out election to an opt-in election.  In other words, previously, if an employee didn't want union dues taken from the paycheques, the employee had to affirmatively opt-out of the program.  Now, an employee has to take the affirmative step to opt-in to having the deductions taken (and they have to do that every year).  This has gutted the union finances because employees are thinking: "Well, because my union can no longer collectivley bargain on my behalf, what's the point in paying union dues?"  Walker has effectively cut off the life blood of the unions.


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Wisconson isn't the only jurisdiction where citizens seem to prefer engaging in a race toward the bottom.  God speed with all of that, and power to the people too.  Hand to mouth existence in return for one's labour pretty much sums up the one demand from market forces everywhere.  Wisconsonites are about to prove that they don't expect special treatment in that regard above that of the rest of their fellow Americans, and that they have all the worker solidarity one might expect nowadays thank you very much, just as they're told.


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Any exit polls?


NorthReport
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So the president has stayed away because the recall campaign will fail - now that's political leadership.

Wisconsin's deep political anger isn't going away

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/05/opinion/borsuk-wisconsin-vote/index.html


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CNN just had a piece on the tens of millions of dollars going into Wisconsin from outside to sway a very small number of 'undecided' voters. The Kochs, Texas' Bob Perry, the usual suspects. Unions - both inside and outside the state - have a big campaign as well.


NorthReport
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if they took all the money they spend on the campaign and just gave it to the people who need it the most....... it would solve some problems.  


ygtbk
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So far looks like Walker is taking it - but early days yet:

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/wisconsin-recall-results#graph


Sven
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ygtbk wrote:

So far looks like Walker is taking it - but early days yet:

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/wisconsin-recall-results#graph

Looks like HuffPo is calling it for Walker already...


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Sven wrote:

ygtbk wrote:

So far looks like Walker is taking it - but early days yet:

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/wisconsin-recall-results#graph

Looks like HuffPo is calling it for Walker already...

True, but with only 30% of polls reporting, it's not clear (to me, YMMV).


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Now, 42% of precincts have reported and Walker leads 60% to 40%...


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My guess is that Walker's final margin will be a bit over 10%...


Sven
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Almost 50% of votes have been counted now: 58% to 41%...it's over. 


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That map on the HuffPo site is interesting.  It gives county-by-county results and, in almost every county I checked, Walker is actually doing better in this recall election against Barrett than he did against Barrett in the regular election in 2010.  Will be interesting to see if that hold when all of the ballots have been counted.


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Sven wrote:

That map on the HuffPo site is interesting.  It gives county-by-county results and, in almost every county I checked, Walker is actually doing better in this recall election against Barrett than he did against Barrett in the regular election in 2010.  Will be interesting to see if that hold when all of the ballots have been counted.

It does seem true that to a first approximation, Walker is doing no worse anywhere, and somewhat better in many places.


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Is there any reason why the Democrats went with the same guy who lost to Walker last time instead of Russ Feingold?


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Can barely contain your glee, eh?

RevolutionPlease
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La di da...

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Photo taken in Wisconsin today by Jesse LaGreca


Sven
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"Pro-Death" -- that's funny.  

Speaking of death, this feller seems to have forgotten "Pro Capital Punishment" on the left side of this little ledger. 


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josh wrote:

I'm not wild about this move.  Putting aside that I have a philosophical problem with the recall concept, if Walker wins the recall election, which he's probably even money to do, he will be stronger than ever.  And it will make it that much harder to oust him in 2014.

My fears were justified. It was shortsighted. Some people voted for Walker just because they didn't like the concept of recalling a governor based on policy idfferences. And it gave the right a victory they need not have gotten.

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Sven wrote:

My guess is that Walker's final margin will be a bit over 10%...

He won by 7. In 2010, he won by 6. The final exit poll indicated that 18% of the people who voted for Walker would vote for Obama. And that among those who voted, Obama outpointed Romney 51-44.

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Aristotleded24 wrote:

Is there any reason why the Democrats went with the same guy who lost to Walker last time instead of Russ Feingold?

Yeah, Feingold declined to run. And Barrett won the primary.

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Don't forget that Walker is under federal investigation—again (this time for conduct during his time as governor rather than as Milwaukee county executive). Who knows what that might lead to...


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