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John McCain and his running mate, Sarah Palin have repeatedly insinuated that Senator Obama has a socialistic economic approach and is pursuing a socialistic agenda. They have also on numerous occasions charged that Obama has close ties to terrorists whom he allegedly “pals around with”. McCain has urged Obama “to come clean” about his terrorist associates.
Let's take what McCain/Palin say at face value, after all McCain prides himself on “straight talk”. That is, at minimum Obama is a closet socialist who befriends terrorists and their anti-american views. However, a voter can be forgiven if she, based on McCain's remarks, concludes Obama is indeed a real, dyed-in-the-wool socialist. After all is not a socialist one who pursues a socialist agenda? Certainly McCain/Palin have never accused Obama of being a full-fledged terrorist but they certainly hinted at his supposed terrorist sympathies.
So, what are we to make of McCain's concession speech? It has been described by pundits as compelling, gracious, upfront, classy and as one of the best concession speeches ever delivered.
In his talk McCain warmly congratulated Obama, pledged to do all in his power to help him and urged his supporters to offer “...our next president our good will and earnest effort.” So why would McCain offer the socialist and terrorist leaning president-elect his support and urge his followers to do likewise?
Does McCain really want to help advance a socialist agenda on America? Should he not have urged his supporters to be wary and vigilant of their new leader who has yet to come clean about his terrorist ties?
McCain did not warn the American people to be fearful of the president-elect. He did quite the contrary, he urged them to support their new leader.
We are left to conclude that either McCain doesn't believe the charges that he and Palin levelled against Obama are true, which makes his campaign a fraud. Or else, he stands behind his sleazy allegations and insinuations which means his concession speech is a fraud. Take your choice!
All campaigns are frauds, really. I very much like Obama, but he said stuff I'm sure he had to say during he campaign. Barney Frank said as much in an interview I saw.
It's the game, and it's why I always say elections will be the death of democracy.
McCain's consession speach was made with posterity in mind, and McCain knew he was speaking to an audience that during the campaign he was talking over, to tell Joe the Plumber about Comrade Barak bin Laden.
quote:Originally posted by Red Rambler: Does McCain really want to help advance a socialist agenda on America? Should he not have urged his supporters to be wary and vigilant of their new leader who has yet to come clean about his terrorist ties?
McCain did not warn the American people to be fearful of the president-elect. He did quite the contrary, he urged them to support their new leader.
We are left to conclude that either McCain doesn't believe the charges that he and Palin levelled against Obama are true, which makes his campaign a fraud. Or else, he stands behind his sleazy allegations and insinuations which means his concession speech is a fraud. Take your choice!
I never thought of it that way, but you make really good points. I have to conclude that McCain never believed the charges he and Palin leveled against Obama are true, so I think he may have been trying to undo some of the 'damage' that they'd done with their false charges now that the election is over. I think a lot of people thought he was waging a less than honest campaign, and I think that helped him lose the election as decidedly as he did.
McCain has a history of bad behaviour followed by earnest and sincere apologies. The institutional media in the U.S. have a history of buying into it and assisting him with his rehabilitation.
McCain's concession speech reminded listeners of the John McCain who ran in 2000, who could reach across the aisle, who could dissent from his party's hard-liners. That John McCain was the only Republican who would have had any chance of winning in the aftermath of the Bushian clusterfuck.
Unfortunately, that John McCain disappeared.
Most candidates in the US run towards the party base in the primaries and run towards the moderate centre in the general election. John McCain did the opposite. He won the nomination, then sold his soul to the extremists.
In his concession, McCain reminded everyone of the campaign that might have been.
_everything down south is a nutty soap opera... We should stop viewing them as leaders of anything and see them all for what they are a bunch of screaming brats.. When we stop viewing the USA as America the great I'm sure they will get the hint that they are no better than any other country in the world.. Canadans should worry about our own dysfunctional governments and let the americans fall down and go boom.. Their is no greater teacher than failure and they need an attitude adjustment.
_______________________________________________________________________________________ Follow the dream you have in your heart and don't let someone else's fears stand in your way.....Gypsy
Let's take what McCain/Palin say at face value, after all McCain prides himself on “straight talk”. That is, at minimum Obama is a closet socialist who befriends terrorists and their anti-american views. However, a voter can be forgiven if she, based on McCain's remarks, concludes Obama is indeed a real, dyed-in-the-wool socialist. After all is not a socialist one who pursues a socialist agenda? Certainly McCain/Palin have never accused Obama of being a full-fledged terrorist but they certainly hinted at his supposed terrorist sympathies.
So, what are we to make of McCain's concession speech? It has been described by pundits as compelling, gracious, upfront, classy and as one of the best concession speeches ever delivered.
In his talk McCain warmly congratulated Obama, pledged to do all in his power to help him and urged his supporters to offer “...our next president our good will and earnest effort.” So why would McCain offer the socialist and terrorist leaning president-elect his support and urge his followers to do likewise?
Does McCain really want to help advance a socialist agenda on America? Should he not have urged his supporters to be wary and vigilant of their new leader who has yet to come clean about his terrorist ties?
McCain did not warn the American people to be fearful of the president-elect. He did quite the contrary, he urged them to support their new leader.
We are left to conclude that either McCain doesn't believe the charges that he and Palin levelled against Obama are true, which makes his campaign a fraud. Or else, he stands behind his sleazy allegations and insinuations which means his concession speech is a fraud. Take your choice!
It's the game, and it's why I always say elections will be the death of democracy.
McCain's consession speach was made with posterity in mind, and McCain knew he was speaking to an audience that during the campaign he was talking over, to tell Joe the Plumber about Comrade Barak bin Laden.
I never thought of it that way, but you make really good points. I have to conclude that McCain never believed the charges he and Palin leveled against Obama are true, so I think he may have been trying to undo some of the 'damage' that they'd done with their false charges now that the election is over. I think a lot of people thought he was waging a less than honest campaign, and I think that helped him lose the election as decidedly as he did.
McCain's concession speech reminded listeners of the John McCain who ran in 2000, who could reach across the aisle, who could dissent from his party's hard-liners. That John McCain was the only Republican who would have had any chance of winning in the aftermath of the Bushian clusterfuck.
Unfortunately, that John McCain disappeared.
Most candidates in the US run towards the party base in the primaries and run towards the moderate centre in the general election. John McCain did the opposite. He won the nomination, then sold his soul to the extremists.
In his concession, McCain reminded everyone of the campaign that might have been.
_everything down south is a nutty soap opera... We should stop viewing them as leaders of anything and see them all for what they are a bunch of screaming brats.. When we stop viewing the USA as America the great I'm sure they will get the hint that they are no better than any other country in the world.. Canadans should worry about our own dysfunctional governments and let the americans fall down and go boom.. Their is no greater teacher than failure and they need an attitude adjustment.
_______________________________________________________________________________________ Follow the dream you have in your heart and don't let someone else's fears stand in your way.....Gypsy