occupy - what now?
Many people are asking how is occupy going to move forward? What now?
These are extremely important questions because occupy is on a precipice of a major decision. Phase two some are calling it. Take the right step; they're on strong ground, able to redefine their approach and perhaps, success itself. If it takes the wrong path - they might not recover from the fall in support or relevance.
A remarkable percentage of Canadians agree (up to 80%) with fundamental occupy messages - rich/poor gap is too great, corporations have too much influence with the government and public policy, people have no real voice in the political and economic arenas. They agree that we need change, but not necessarily how to create that change.
This message came from a friend. She makes some insightful points that are worthy of consideration and perhaps implementation.
· Pack up and walk peacefully past the police - a powerful image for the media.
· Sidestep the dichotomizing and refuse to play by their rules.
· Make the issue change instead of tents.
· Then come back at it in other ways. Return, re-state
· Resistance and change come in many forms, the more varied, the better. There are those who do not protest but who support and crave change just as fiercely.
Strong points showing that change isn’t one road that we can’t diverge from. The tent cities, around the time they came down, had reached their peak in awareness. People and the media that are anti-occupy were snickering and would probably have liked to see the tents stay up during the coldest months to come. We've seen so many protests, we're immune.
Indeed tents and protests had become story, the ideals of occupy were getting lost in the threats of eviction, which provoked the tent dwellers and, ultimately, led to the police dissembling the tent ‘cities.’
The issues of equality and justice were buried in this rabble or rubble.
My friend is calling for a paradigm shift, a change in us before we can change the world. That's difficult for those in occupy who have a very fixed idea of what a protest is.
Different ways to make issues known are viable, avoid the us vs. them, someone will win context. This is not the 60s when everything that was change, polarized people: hippies vs. the pigs, students vs. the system, generation vs. generation.
Equally, protests come in many different forms. When possible, buy food at farmers' market. Use your wallet to make a statement. Take your money to a local credit union. Buy from local businesses. Avoid mega-stores like Wal-Mart that suck up jobs and small businesses. Do a bit of research. For example, the Bay (HBC), which played a fundamental role in creating this country, is owned by an equities company in the U.S. (who knows who owns that company). HBC in turn owns Target and Zellers, which they have been shutting down one store at a time. Consider where an item was made before you purchase it,
These are a smattering of ways to begin change. You don't need occupy to do something. Granted these are small steps. But, cliché time, every journey begins with a single step. For every grandiose plan to grab media attention, thousands of small steps should be taken in communities around the world.
The vast majority agrees this system is broken beyond repair. Occupy can and must be a force of change, a force beyond and above the them/us, win-at-cost, irrelevant mentality. If it's truly committed to idea of representing the 99%, they must understand that the police officers on the other side are humans and part of the 99% as much as a drug addict or the jobless. They will have to be innovative and creative, reach out to different groups like the arts community to bring their support and talents to the table. They're going to have to work hard in communities and at the national and international levels for many years.
Where to begin the next phase? How about replacing the lengthy list of 'isms' they are against to something they support, who they welcome.
'All of us' might work.
revised from terrymcdermottwriting.weebly.com
A remarkable percentage of Canadians agree (up to 80%) with fundamental occupy messages - rich/poor gap is too great, corporations have too much influence with the government and public policy, people have no real voice in the political and economic arenas. They agree that we need change, but not necessarily how to create that change.
Thanks for this, because I really wasn't sure what the message was. This clarifies it. But I would argue that many of the Occupys in Canada were not successful in getting this message out in a simple, clear way. Too many other issues were thrown into the mix, and in the case of Occupy Winnipeg, it just seemed like they were jumping on every bandwagon -- which is fine if that's what they want to do, but it muddies the specific message.
I think the specific and important message that you clarify above can continue to be reinforced, but it doesn't need occupations to do that anymore. Or at least not right now. It needs organization and coordination and communicating in terms that corporate and consumer culture understand. In other words, keep the message simple, but slick up the medium a bit.
XII Squares Meeting on Friday 9 – Peacefull Revolutions & Global Strike
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We opened the debate in the IX Squares Meeting where we spoke about our local situations (problems/forces) and shared our first ideas about concept, content, duration, date, logistic etc.
We concluded that general strikes should play a pivotal role in the transition to a new way of living, if we want to reform the institutions or build our own ones. We need the skilled qualified people to work on it. So we have to meet them in their institutions (schools, hospitals, factories…) within common actions, debates and flier-posting. Inviting them to join our working groups and alternative projects....
http://takethesquare.net/2011/12/06/xii-squares-meeting-on-friday-9-peac...
It sounds too confusing for most people I know. They're down with the idea but aren't resonating with the message yet.
..a speaker at the occupy vancouver said that the occupies will be defined by what they do rather than in the creation of spin. this makes a lot of sense. we are not a political party. we are not looking for votes. we are looking to make change today..right now.
Arundhati Roy: 'The People Who Created the Crisis WIll Not Be the Ones That Come Up With A Solution'
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29884.htm
"...Democracy no longer means what it was meant to. It has been taken back into the workshop. Each of its institutions has been hollowed out, and it has just been returned to us as a vehicle for the free market, of the corporations. For the corporations, by the corporations.
Even if we do vote we should spend less time and intellectual energy on our choices and keep our eye on the ball. It's just an artificial theatre designed to subsume the anger and to make you feel that this is all that you're supposed to think about and talk about when in fact you're trapped between kinds of washing powder that are owned by the same company.."
"By Imbeciles Who Really Mean It": Lost Verities and Dirty Hippies - by Phil Rockstroh
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29915.htm
"...At this point, the situation comes down to this: pradigm shift or perish"
How to Start Participatory Budgeting in Your City
Have you noticed all the cuts being made to your city budget? To schools and libraries, fire fighters and social services, and other public spending? Think you could do a better job managing the budget? Soon, you may have that chance.
Through a process called “participatory budgeting”, residents of over 1,000 cities around the world are deciding how to spend taxpayer dollars. In October, four districts in New York City launched the second such process in the US. This article offers some initial tips for how you could start participatory budgeting in your city....http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/12/07-2
Michael Moore has an amazing article about what to occupy next. It really speaks to me, and I think these suggestions are well-focused and a clear way forward.
http://rabble.ca/news/2011/12/winter-our-occupation-proposal-michael-moo...
'US Feds Attacking Local Occupy Groups' (and vid)
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/215324.html
"A political activist says that the United States federal government is illegally limiting the constitutional rights of local groups and protesters making up the Occupy movement - interview with Sara Flounders, Occupy Wall Street..."
Port Hold: Occupy Disrupts US Shipping (and vid)
http://rt.com/news/occupy-protesters-seattle-ports-659/
"Massive 'Occupy' protests have again erupted across America, paralyzing its West Coast. From the blocked port of Oakland to the shipping hub of Seattle, thousands of disenchanted activists have taken to the streets in defiance of a police crackdown..."
Occupy is Not Just About Occupying: The Goal is Not to Occupy it is to End Corporate Rule
With encampments being closed across the country it is important to remember the end goal is not to occupy public space, it is to end corporate rule. We seek to replace the rule of money with the rule of people. Occupying is a tactic but the grand strategy of the Occupy Movement is to weaken the pillars that hold the corporate-government in place by educating, organizing and mobilizing people into an independent political force...
http://www.zcommunications.org/occupy-is-not-just-about-occupying-the-goal-is-not-to-occupy-it-is-to-end-corporate-rule-by-kevin-zeese
Maybe not, but in the case of my local Occupy, Occupy TO, the end of the Occupation appears - in the public media at least - to have meant the virtual disappearance of the movement.
epaulo – think you’re right, or at least i agree with you. the first phase of occupy is coming to an end. and i have to say that closing ports and businesses makes great media but how many people lose wages because they don’t work that day. i hope occupy can stay away from the idea of collateral damage. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
now it’s time for the hard work – getting into communities, holding town hall type educational, giving people some ideas and support. i believe there is still a lot of support for the ideals behind occupy and to let that slip away would mean we’re stuck with this system for too long.
ndpp – i agree that without the tents and the protests the mainstream media won’t cover occupy to the same degree. they also won’t cover it in the same way, in whatever coverage that appears. the tent cities had become this story and not the reasons why the tents were there. this will be a long process and there will have to a be a strong, admired spokesperson, i believe, who can continue to put these issues on CBC or CTV (let’s all agree to forget fox forever)
as the father of 2 children, i believe that this society is part of the legacy i will leave for them. i would certainly like it to be much different than today, even if it means dedicating a part of the rest of my life to the efforts.
thanks for your comments.
Milk Street Cafe, a popular downtown Manhattan eatery patronized by hungry Wall Streeters, will be shutting its doors for good Thursday after business slowed down due to the recent "Occupy Wall Street" protests.
Epstein has said that the cafe's business fell by 30 percent after the protests began, The Post reported last month.
Even after the protesters were kicked out of the park in November, police barricades remained up around the restaurant, preventing customers from entering easily.
Epstein couldn't confirm the number of employees he expects to lose their jobs because of the closing, but the cuts could number as many as 70. The cafe already let 21 employees go in October.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/manhattan_cafe_hurt_by_occu...
Milk Street Cafe, a popular downtown Manhattan eatery patronized by hungry Wall Streeters, will be shutting its doors for good Thursday after business slowed down due to the recent "Occupy Wall Street" protests...
Fortunately their Boston location is still going strong - since '81, I believe.
Strange, though, that a new location of an established independent chain that had only been in business since June of 2011, and saw a 30% dip in business for two of the six months they were in operation, would nevertheless have to close their doors. They couldn't accommodate a two-month, 30% decline in business in their first year of operation? That is unfortunate.
Milk Street Cafe, a popular downtown Manhattan eatery patronized by hungry Wall Streeters, will be shutting its doors for good Thursday after business slowed down due to the recent "Occupy Wall Street" protests.
Epstein has said that the cafe's business fell by 30 percent after the protests began, The Post reported last month.
Even after the protesters were kicked out of the park in November, police barricades remained up around the restaurant, preventing customers from entering easily.
They should sue the city and the police.
..the world cannot sustain the current financial and environmental systems..they will collapse, at least i believe so. to force change will not be painless but the earlier we the people get some kind of control the better we will be able to influence how the collapse occurs. and in what direction we move in afterwards. this is where our hope lies. you want to see pain simply allow business as usual to continue.
Unions and Immigrants Join Occupy Movements
Oakland, California - When Occupy Seattle called its tent camp "Planton Seattle," camp organizers were laying a local claim to a set of tactics used for decades by social movements in Mexico, Central America and the Philippines. And when immigrant janitors marched down to the detention center in San Diego and called their effort Occupy ICE (the initials of the Immigration and Custom Enforcement agency responsible for mass deportations), people from countries with that planton encampment tradition were connecting it to the Occupy movement here.
This shared culture and history offer new possibilities to the Occupy movement for survival and growth at a time when the federal law enforcement establishment, in cooperation with local police departments and municipal governments, has uprooted many tent encampments. Different Occupy groups from Wall Street to San Francisco have begun to explore their relationship with immigrant social movements in the US, and to look more closely at the actions of the 1 percent beyond our borders that produces much of the pressure for migration...
http://www.zcommunications.org/unions-and-immigrants-join-occupy-movements-by-david-bacon
Michael Moore has an amazing article about what to occupy next.
Even more impressive was his 10-point list of goals and demands for the Occupy movement.
Occupy Wall Street Meets Winter
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But the season has changed. Autumn has ended and winter is upon us. We’ve lost Liberty Square, and each day brings news from across the country that another occupation has been evicted. Winter is here, and with it the cold; but it’s more than that. Winter brings the sober understanding that we won’t be in the headlines every day, that we need to be more than a string of events or actions or press releases, more than an endless meeting. Winter is the nagging truth that the next decade of organizing must be more sustainable than the first months we spent in the sun; that this is a struggle for the long-haul, that burn-out and martyrdom are no good for anyone and no good for the cause. Winter tells us to see our families and take a day off when we are sick, because the movement has to be healthy if it’s going to last. Winter is here to remind us that revolution is not an event but a process, and that social transformation means not only harnessing a moment, but building a movement.
Winter is here. But winter is not sad, and it’s not tragic; it’s just real. We do not fear the cold, and we will not hibernate. We will use the winter to become the movement we know is necessary.
http://www.zcommunications.org/occupy-wall-street-meets-winter-by-yotam-marom
Occupy the Food System
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From seed to plate, our food system is now even more concentrated than our banking system. Most economic sectors have concentration ratios hovering around 40 percent, meaning that the top four firms in the industry control 40 percent of the market. Anything beyond this level is considered "highly concentrated," where experts believe competition is severely threatened and market abuses are likely to occur.
Many key agricultural markets like soybeans and beef exceed the 40 percent threshold, meaning the seeds and inputs that farmers need to grow our crops come from just a handful of companies. Ninety-three percent of soybeans and 80 percent of corn grown in the United States are under the control of just one company. Four companies control up to 90 percent of the global trade in grain. Today, three companies process more than 70 percent of beef in the U.S.; four companies dominate close to 60 percent of the pork and chicken markets.....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/willie-nelson/occupy-food-system_b_1154212...
Occupy Des Moines Protesters Take Over Obama HQ, Iowa Democratic Party HQ
A unique pressure campaign has been playing out in Iowa, where the group Occupy Des Moines and other progressive groups briefly took over both the Obama for America and the Iowa Democratic Party headquarters, just as the media spotlight descends on the city two weeks before the caucuses.
Occupy Des Moines, in conjunction with Veterans for Peace and the community organization Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement (CCI), blockaded the entrance to OFA headquarters in Des Moines on Saturday, forcing a closure of its office. They set up tents in front of the front door, and vowed not to move, calling it “the annex” to the main Occupy Des Moines camp a few blocks away at Stewart Square. Megan Felt, an organizer with Occupy Des Moines, declared victory on Saturday. “Our goal is to disrupt business as usual until the campaigns address our concerns, and the fact that Obama’s Iowa staff chose not to open up today is a victory for our movement because we prevented them from going about their normal Saturday routine.” At the height, the action involved around 120 protesters....
Is it wrong to want to send them all there? :)
357.5 what? We need units. How do we know how much space you will occupy?
Shit, I almost missed Skyrim ™'s poster! Being Elder™, I just Scrolled™ right past it!!
Don't feed the troll.
They never let us keep a pet troll. You have play with them while they are here. Friendly like...
Derp.
There's nothing more vomit-inducing than a scrawny troll. Feed 'em, say I.
Or was that a Tawny™ Scroll™?
I presume Oldgoat will be along in due course.
The place teams with enough incivility as it is between leftist people and the NDP/Liberal factions. Just how are we supposed to fit the Harperite crowd in amongst all of that.
I'm really not sure what you guys have for a goal, but that appears to be your problem. Lack of a tangible goal.
Hear me out for a minute: When this first started, I thought, here we go, viva la revelution! In the US I saw an opportunity for supporters of Ron Paul to push common sense to the forefront and save their country from impending insolvency and a massive shift in worldwide policy.
Here in Canada I thought this could be something that in the long run would truly unite our country.
Unfortunately from where I sit all I saw was a bunch of people hanging around doing nothing. Anyone can bitch. You want people to pay attention, you come up with a solution.
If you do? People will listen. ALL people.
By the way, I remember seeing on the news how when it was time to clean up, the, "occupiers" were nowhere to be found. Only the big bad corporations were around to clean up the mess. You missed your chance to earn respect there as well.
Sorry people, you don't want to be treated like useless punks? Don't act like useless punks.
I don't really care for anything you said; except could I use this as part a motivational screed over at NDP Leadership number whatever.
yup, did it again.
The 3 key concepts for any successful movement are unity, communication, and non-violence. The only thing that ows had completely was communication.
Where's the non-unity and violence, chowder? Oh, you mean the cops. Right. Got it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiraDbcx14c
There were assaults and sexual assaults that were committed by some OWS protesters. It doesn't matter if the majority were non-violent, the few will be picked out by the media and spotlighted. There was a huge lack of unity. There were numerous messages people wanted known and they weren't the same from protest to protest. They started to drown each other out. That is why I said OWS only had communication COMPLETELY
By the way, I remember seeing on the news how when it was time to clean up, the, "occupiers" were nowhere to be found. Only the big bad corporations were around to clean up the mess. You missed your chance to earn respect there as well.
That's absolute BULLSHIT. As some who was there the day of the move cleaning up I can tell you that you have no clue what you're talking about.
Is this an attempt to occupy Babble?
Seems like it. Anyone get a fix on the rock they poured out from under?
'US Media Pretend OWS No Longer Exists' (and vid)
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/217959.html
"The US eviction of Occupy encampments is in coordination with the country's corporate media which just treats the Occupy movement as if it no longer exists..." Interview with Sara Flounders
Starhawk: Interview with Occupy Vancouver Starhawk speaks with Occupy Vancouver on the accomplishments of the movement so far, the biggest challenges we face right now, and a potential vision for the future.
..an important part of this interview is her description of the struggle we are facing as our econmic situation deteriates.
Naomi Klein: Interview with Occupy Vancouver
Occupations in winter
Protesters nationwide link up through large-scale conference calls and plan what's next
Local occupations around the country are linking up through frequent, massive conference calls, tightening what is now an extremely loose national network that operates under the Occupy banner into a more focused force.
The effort, now known as InterOccupy, started out of Occupy Wall Street in New York in mid-October. It has since grown into an elaborate website with multiple weekly phone calls during which occupiers trade ideas, coordinate multistate actions, and plan for the future. Participants at about 150 occupations around the country (and a few internationally) have now participated in the calls, organizers tell me....
Barcelona 28D We have lost the innocence!
This December 28th, the day of the innocent, we no longer believe the lies of politicians. Therefore, under the slogan “We’ve lost the innocence!” We have convened several indignant actions taking place throughout the day: morning, there will be performances and decentralized actions in neighborhoods, and there will be a puppets workshop in Plaza Catalunya at 7pm.
Politicians, bankers and other unsavory people think they can fool us, but …
We have lost the innocence!
Therefore, the 28D, from assemblies to action groups we will performance from the morning what is obvious, expose their lies.
We will use public transportation to hang puppets and do performances, conveying our loss of innocence and calling for joint action in the streets....
http://takethesquare.net/2011/12/27/barcelona-28d-we-have-lost-the-innoc...
People have and are fighting and dying in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Yemen and Syria because they have had enough of getting squashed by simply ignoring the situation. At some point you realize that you will not get anywhere unless you fight and that includes for a better government. My great-great-great grandmother was one of the few survivors of a famine village in Ireland in the 1840s when the free market policies of English economists, such as Malthus and Senior, and English government, who saw the famine as an "act of providence" that would clear the land of much of the Irish peasantry so that it could be exploited by the new capitalist class, said that the Irish deserved to starve because they had not adapted to the new economic conditions. Oh and by the way Malthus added that that the Irish were "not human". It took more than 700 years and many defeats to win Ireland's freedom. My uncle didn't give up and led the liberation of his village from the Irish. My father, who went through the Depression and fought in the Second World War, did not give up because he did not believe that a Nazi government was the same as a democratic government, even though his own economic system meant he never got a regular job until he was 33 years of age. He fought for better living standards. The lesson of the Irish Tiger and the Canadian economy is that after social conditions have improved you must continue to fight against those forces that would and have stripped away the gains that we have made. There is an Irish saying for this "No surrender".
However, that we need to move beyond occupying things and start proposing and taking actions personally and with respect to government, to improve the situation. If the 1% are always allowed to write the rules of the ballgame by always being allowed to control the government, then they will always win. We need to change that starting now.
Occupy Geeks Are Building a Facebook for the 99%
“I don’t want to say we’re making our own Facebook. But, we’re making our own Facebook,” said Ed Knutson, a web and mobile app developer who joined a team of activist-geeks redesigning social networking for the era of global protest.
They hope the technology they are developing can go well beyond Occupy Wall Street to help establish more distributed social networks, better online business collaboration and perhaps even add to the long-dreamed-of semantic web — an internet made not of messy text, but one unified by underlying meta-data that computers can easily parse.....
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/12/occupy-facebook/all/1
Occupy Sheffield has Taken Possession of the Former Salvation Army Citadel – 28th December 2011 Statement
Occupy Sheffield has taken possession of the former Salvation Army Citadel (at Cross Burgess Street, Sheffield) on the basis of a so-called ‘Section 6′ notice [1]. The building has lain idle since 1999, and has been open and unsecured for over two months. Occupy Sheffield will make the building safe and secure and will then open it for public use. Occupy Sheffield will be inviting any community groups that have lost the ability to pay for a space due to funding cuts to come and make use of the building. The building has been renamed ‘The Citadel of Hope’.....
https://occupysheffield.org/2011/12/29/statement-28th-december-2011/
Small Occupy Movements Across the Country Accumulate Victories
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Here in California, the movement is exploding. In a recent study called "Diffusion of the Occupy Movement in California," UC Riverside researchers surveyed 482 incorporated towns and cities in California and found that 143 - nearly 30 percent - had Occupy sites on Facebook between December 1 and December 8.
According to the study, many of the small and medium-sized towns are active with likes, posts and events on their Facebook pages. For example, the town of Arcata has about 17,000 people and 2,950 subscriptions on their page.
"The Occupy Barstow website proclaimed that Barstow is 'about as far from Wall Street as you can get.' But the Barstow occupiers probably did not know that there were also Occupy actions in Weaverville, Idyllwild, Calistoga, El Centro and many other small California towns, even in very remote areas," write professor of sociology Christopher Chase-Dunn and graduate student Michaela Curran-Strange.
And the majority of Occupy cities are not in the Northern, more liberal, part of the state. They are almost equally divided between the north and south.....
http://www.truth-out.org/small-occupy-movements-across-country-accumulate-victories/1324565239
The Campaign to 'Decolonize' Oakland
http://www.truth-out.org/campaign-decolonize-native-americans-say-occupy...
"...there's an effort by Native American activists in Oakland to get rid of 'Occupy' and replace it with 'Decolonize' as in 'Decolonize Oakland'. They say the term 'occupy' is offensive in light of the brutal history of occupation by early colonizers and the US government..."
The Campaign to 'Decolonize' Oakland
What horseshit. Do these people have no concept at all of strategy? Not only do they want to kill the Occupy "brand" which is so well known all over the world, but they want to change the whole movement into a single issue campaign — to "decolonize" Oakland, whatever the fuck that means.
I'm 100% behind those who are resisting the efforts of these ignorant hijackers.
Thanks for the news.
I'm 100% behind those who are resisting the efforts of these ignorant hijackers.
I guess certain types needn't apply for 99% membership if they're just out to make an inconvenience of themselves. These rather unfortunate remarks of yours are one thing, but they're inconsistent as well in the face of everyone standing outside looking in at the NDP banquet, where the membership on the inside continues repeating the same thing, with a wink and a nudge, that some people simply have no concept of strategy.
The 'ignorant hijackers' have a completely legitimate basis for opposing occupation. They are also well used to being told by settler movements that their long outstanding issues of colonization, ecocide and genocide are strategically inconvenient. Decolonizing the occupation is an ongoing campaign of more than 500 years. Once it is apprehended and implemented we will truly be on our way to freedom. Not until.
Utter, condescending nonsense, based on white liberal guilt feelings.
It's exactly analogous to the sectarian left groups who stand on the sidelines of popular struggles, refusing to take part unless and until those popular struggles agree to march under their particular banner and slogans alone.
I think if "Occupy" is viewed as a problematic term, then there are better alternatives than "Decolonize". I agree that "Decolonize" does take the focus off economic injustice and the 99%.
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Recently, Native American activists put forward a proposal to change the name to "Decolonize Oakland" in a general assembly meeting that lasted three hours. The proposal received 68 percent of the vote, but failed to get the 90 percent approval needed to pass. Native Americans have been holding teach-ins on the subject and say they'll put the proposal up for a vote again.
..the movement as a whole is mature enough to see this for what it is. a legitimate discussion that challenges our views on how the world is seen. changing the name to decolonize came up in vancouver but was rejected by the majority. the main reason given at that assembly was “what does decolonize mean?”. someone asked if this meant that we now have to pack up and leave vancouver to go who knows where? i though it too complicated a term to explain and that it could easily be twisted in order to divide people. so i voted against the change. if some other name was presented i would have conciderd it.
..it's a bit hazy as to where the concern over the “occupy” name went but collaborations and participation continued with the native community. inclusion is key here and if this hinges on a name change at some occupies what's the big deal? this would not alienate that occupy from the broader movement, but, i would think, begin a discussion in other occupies. like the article points out there are other concerns with language and i see this as healthy.
and in terms of an answer to the question as to whether 'decolonize' means 'pack up and leave', this was best answered by Haida elder Lavina White, who said: "you haven't left us enough timber to build boats to send you all back."
No. It's about the creation, or in this case, the perpetuation of an obvious division on this continent, one which was constituted from the get go, that people are rightfully fed up with and could do without. I find it peculiar as well that concern is being expressed over the brand name of something representing itself as an anti-corporate movement.
I find it peculiar as well that concern is being expressed over the brand name of something representing itself as an anti-corporate movement.
By dismissing the importance of names you undermine your own support for those who want to make an issue out of it - who in fact want to make it a dealbreaker of an issue.
Occupation has been a tactic of revolutionary struggle against oppression at least since the French revolutionaries occupied Louis XVI's palace in 1792. It has been adopted around the world by peasant and labour movements as a fightback against factory closures and land evictions. It has caused governments to fall.
There were countless sit-down strikes in North America in the 1930's over wages and working hours. The famous work-in campaign of the Clydebank shipbuilders in 1971, in the face of threatened closure of their workplace, proved to Britain and the world that workers could keep industries operating under their own management and save them from bankruptcy. Neoliberal restructuring in Argentina led to the rise of the "occupied factories" movement in Argentina, so brilliantly depicted in the 2004 film The Take, by Avi Lewis and Naomi Klein. Brazilian factory workers followed suit. There was the occupation of the Republic Windows and Doors Factory in Chicago three years ago by UE union members to keep the place from shutting down. And a few months after, there was the brief CAW occupation of the Aradco auto parts plant in Windsor, threatened with plant closure, loss of jobs, and loss of back pay.
Haymarket Square was occupied; Tiananmen Square was occupied; Tahrir Square was occupied. Polish workers of Solidarnosc occupied the Gdansk shipyard in 1980 and soon all the town and city squares in Poland were occupied; people in Oaxaca, led by schoolteachers, occupied the town square in 2006, defying Mexican death squads; student occupations of university administration buildings have built anti-war mobilizations and have led to the fall of dictators like Suharto in Indonesia.
The Occupy movement is squarely in this tradition of popular struggle, and its name proudly echoes that heritage. Those who demand, as a precondition to supporting the Occupy movement, that it change its name, on account of their own semantic misunderstanding, demonstrate their own isolation from popular struggles, their ignorance of traditions and tactics of those struggles, and their inability to appreciate the importance of building alliances to advance their own struggles. In short, they exhibit all the symptoms of classic left sectarianism.
I think epaulo13 is on track in terms of the connotation that the word 'occupy' continues to imply in the North American context. I don't see a concillatory posture, or indeed a willingness to sit down and listen being elaborated when words such as 'ignorant' are taken up. Such things appear at the heart of everything we see in this manufactured society. To whom though is it important to identify oneself? Even if the media has yet to provide any indication of having a clue as to what anything is about, everyone else certainly does, including the bastards in power.
I find that protests against U.S. military occupations tend to go badly whenever we gain momentum. The right has reverted to the old strategy of tension and fear-mongering at home while they aid and abet right wing anarchists in the Middle East, Central Asia, Africa etc. The right to protest has been slowly eroded here in the west since the end of cold war. They were arresting Americans and Brits for wearing anti-Dubya t-shirts in the U.K and U.S. this past decade. That's oppressive.
They can jail the resisters, but they can't jail the resistance! These American dissidents have been at it since before 9/11 truth was formed and know what it's like to speak out in dangerous times.
Young People More Likely To Favor Socialism Than Capitalism: Pew
The poll, published Wednesday, found that while Americans overall tend to oppose socialism by a strong margin -- 60 percent say they have a negative view of it, versus just 31 percent who say they have a positive view -- socialism has more fans than opponents among the 18-29 crowd. Forty-nine percent of people in that age bracket say they have a positive view of socialism; only 43 percent say they have a negative view.
And while those numbers aren't very far apart, it's noteworthy that they were reversed just 20 months ago, when Pew conducted a similar poll. In that survey, published May 2010, 43 percent of people age 18-29 said they had a positive view of socialism, and 49 percent said their opinion was negative.
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Indeed, the Pew poll also found that just 46 percent of people age 18-29 have positive views of capitalism, and 47 percent have negative views -- making this the only age group where support for socialism outweighs support for capitalism.
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Pew broke down its results by age, race, income and political affiliation, as well as support for the Occupy Wall Street and Tea Party movements. There were only two other groups among whom socialism's positives outweighed its negatives -- blacks, who say they favor socialism 55 to 36 percent, and liberal Democrats, who say they favor socialism 59 to 39 percent. These were also the only two groups to show net favor for socialism in the 2010 poll.
I think epaulo13 is on track in terms of the connotation that the word 'occupy' continues to imply in the North American context. I don't see a concillatory posture, or indeed a willingness to sit down and listen being elaborated when words such as 'ignorant' are taken up. Such things appear at the heart of everything we see in this manufactured society. To whom though is it important to identify oneself? Even if the media has yet to provide any indication of having a clue as to what anything is about, everyone else certainly does, including the bastards in power.
..this thread shows that the greater movement is growing every which way. political consciousness is growing globally at a pace i've never seen in all my activists years. the participatory nature of what is going on in oakland, not just the name issue, has knocked representative democracy out of the park. the genie is out of the bottle. no one can go back to letting others make the decisions for them. this is exciting me and i am intrigued by it's developmental.
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I have some reservations. For instance, the North American versions of representative democracy haven't been knocked anywhere.
..in the imagination of many it has been.
I have some reservations. For instance, the North American versions of representative democracy haven't been knocked anywhere.
We've had some knocks. McCarthyism, COINTELPro, and Kent State all occurred under the pretense of representative democracy. Writers like F. W. Engdahl have termed representative liberal democracy as "Totalitarian Democracy" in his book entitled, Full Spectrum Dominance: Totalitarian Democracy and the New World Order."
And in Canada the NDP is now the official opposition party promising electoral reform of our dysfunctional electoral system at the heart of our dysfuncational representative democracy, "fixing Ottawa" etc.
The problem with updating our obsolete electoral system in general is that oligarchs in the English-speaking countries have observed the pitiful state of Vladimir Putin's party in post-Soviet Russia scraping by with just 51% of voter support recently under a system of pro rep. Our corrupt stooges can't imagine how they could achieve even that level of support and still pursue neoliberal democracy.
North American oligarchs have heard us knocking for a long time. They just aren't answering the door. It's time to start knocking even louder.
Even an Austrian or two is musing: http://www.benzinga.com/media/jim-cramer/11/12/2229669/vanguard-rising-occupy-wall-street-the-2012-elections-and-the-specter#ixzz1iBVYuYCF
By Marco Rabinowitz
Sometimes bread tastes better than freedom. One has to wonder how much freedom a starving individual would be willing to give up in order to survive. This is something to keep in mind going into the next year as we make our way through the global financial crisis. And as we approach the beginning of 2012, the political and economic future of the world appears uncertain.
Various factions in the nation are competing for attention, support, and power in the wake of an ominous global economy. Far from being a year of recovery, 2012 may very well be a year for the US and the rest of the world to re-evaluate the global status quo. To say the least, we may want to buckle up our seat belts going into 2012.
I. The Protester
Time Magazine recently named "the Protester" as 2011's Person of the Year. In light of the Arab Spring and the Occupy movement, global protests will probably change the socio-cultural and political landscapes in 2012. In light of these global protests, it would appear that humanity is at crossroads of sorts.
Many observers may not realize it, but in some ways, the Occupy movement is a textbook Marxist revolutionary concept. Some may opine that protesters' references to setting up "workers' councils" is quite reminiscent of Russian "soviets". Though the Occupy movement may not be absolutely Marxist ideologically, it may be considered "Marxist" in a philosophical or theoretical sense.
In the political pamphlet "What is to be done?", Russian revolutionary Vladimir Lenin argued that workers will not spontaneously become political by fighting economic battles over wages and working conditions with the elite. Thus, the working class would need a revolutionary "vanguard" political party in order to spread the word about Marxist ideology and to bring about change. Lenin saw Russia at the beginning of the dawn of a new age: "We are passing from the sphere of history to the sphere of the present, and partly, of the future."
In some ways, the Occupy movement is fulfilling the task of being this Marxist societal vanguard. For all intents and purposes, the Occupy movement appears to be outside the mainstream political debate in the US. Even if the Occupy movement is acting as a Marxist vanguard political faction, this is only in the context of Marxist theory, not what we normally regard as historical hammer-and-sickle communism. Given that the US is generally moderate politically, the Occupy movement may have to find innovative ways of making an anti-capitalist, leftist message appealing to mainstream, football-watching, steak-eating, church-going America in order to remain viable and credible. While some Occupy protesters claim to support communism, it is significant to note that if the Occupy movement had organized in the USSR or other various historically communist nations, the movement would have been summarily quelled and disbanded by force, protesters would probably have either been imprisoned or executed.
Far from portending some global communist reformation, whereas many individuals across the world are upset with the status quo, the wide range of global protests reflects the fact that humanity is at a crossroads. This crossroads raises questions like "Is utopia possible?" and "What is the human journey?" At this point in history, it is as if our species is mentally preparing to turn a corner. In my opinion, this crossroads is not only about politics or economics, but also the greater direction of our planet going forward. It is as if the world is approaching a critical moment with respect to key issues including the environment, overpopulation, water, energy usage, and financial stability. As politics, cooperation, and diplomacy are at the center of these issues and as there are seven billion people now living on planet Earth, it makes sense that we will not be able to always agree on political issues. Even so, global protests are shaking up and adding even more uncertainty to an already precarious situation.
The question remains as to what will become of global protests and the Occupy movement in particular. Since issues like high unemployment and high student loan debt do not appear to be going away anytime soon, Occupy protests (in one form or another) will probably continue into 2012. Where a regime change in a country like Syria may be foreseeable, the Occupy movement is already making plans for an "American Spring" in 2012 -- including the possibility of seeking constitutional reform. According to an Adbusters article entitled "What to expect in 2012", Michael Hardt and Antonio Negri have offered various possible goals for global protests going into 2012 including "establishing a guaranteed income, the right to global citizenship, and a process of the democratic reappropriation of the common." Are these ideas going to arrive on the world stage for political debate in the near future?
With an evolving political landscape and the possibility of future protests in mind, one has to wonder how the Occupy movement will play into the 2012 election.
II. The Election
What sort of society do Americans want the US to be? Where many commentators may hope (in light of the 2011 US debt debacle) that the ongoing debate of the direction of the US will be resolved during the 2012 elections, the stark political divide may continue into the foreseeable future. US Presidential candidate Mitt Romney recently said that the 2012 election is going to give Americans the choice between having an "entitlement society" or having an "opportunity society". That being the case, there is no guarantee that the 2012 elections are going to give us any more clarity as to the nation's course. Indeed, Occupy Wall Street gives the current debate an even more precarious dimension.
How could the Occupy movement affect the 2012 elections? Aside from the prospect of disruptive protests and seeking constitutional reform, MarketWatch's Paul Farrell has suggested that Occupy will be promoting new taxes on the 1 percent and other various policies related to commerce and corporations. As in the aforementioned article from Hardt and Negri, the Occupy movement may introduce new policy goals into the debate.
How then would the movement respond were they ignored by the mainstream establishment? The movement may modify its tactics. Breitbart recently reported that Occupy protesters packed into an Iowa diner heckled Republican candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann before she arrived. Police eventually arrived, but no protesters were arrested.
There is, of course, an economic dimension to the Occupy protests. According to a Huffington Post article, in Oakland, Calif. following an incident at a port, Mayor Jean Quan said that "the city would probably not be able to prevent port closures anyway since a handful of protesters could sneak around police lines." Quan had told port officials that "the city would try to prevent future shutdowns at the port if port officials picked up the $1.5 million tab for the hundreds of police officers that would be needed." As cities tighten budgets, it will be interesting to see how communities deal with additional costs from Occupy protests.
The Miami Herald recently had an interesting article written by Mark Neuberger and John Douglas that discussed the impact of Occupy protests on local businesses. The authors discussed legal issues regarding employees' protesting and having protesters show up at one's business. They concluded that "if economic conditions do not significantly improve and employees begin acting out in protest, businesses should be prepared to respond to novel forms of protest like sit-downs, flash mobs, posting on Facebook, Twitter and other social media, handbilling or picketing."
Given the emergence of the Occupy movement as an additional player in American society & politics, make no mistake about it, the 2012 elections will be a dramatic climax to a most likely eventful year.
III. The Specter
Marx once wrote that the specter of communism was haunting Europe; there now appears to be a post-Marxist specter haunting the world. Some political philosophers and/or economists cannot help but be taken aback by this sudden and unexpected specter of Marxism that has arrived on the global scene.
Economically speaking, I suppose this is only natural owing to the global financial crisis, but still, one would think that after the fall of the USSR and free-market reforms in communist countries that Marxist theory would become obsolete. Apparently, that is not the case. Given the rhetoric of post-Marxists and the prospect of a complete doomsday collapse of the capitalistic global financial system that reads like something out of a textbook on Marxist economic theory, it is as if Karl Marx's own specter is waiting to get his last laugh. And not only Marx's specter, we have to keep in mind the ongoing protests in Russia -- where protesters were seen waving the old Soviet flag.
Speaking of Lenin, Jim Cramer made quite an interesting Freudian slip on the Dec. 22 episode of CNBC's Mad Money. While discussing Hansen Natural Corp. (NASDAQ: HANS [FREE Stock Trend Analysis]), Cramer stated that, "The [consumer] staples are in favor when the market is unsust-- is unstable. We know we've got an unstable market." I couldn't help but notice that he almost said "unsustainable". In taking into account Social Security, the national debt, stagnant unemployment, mild growth, an impending higher education bubble, and societal unrest, maybe the market is unsustainable.
I recently discussed the concept of a "great refusal" (per Herbert Marcuse), where individuals would begin to simply ignore or reject the establishment in favor of re-evaluated and modified social and economic institutions and norms. Interestingly enough, in the aforementioned Adbusters article, Hardt and Negri referenced refusal in light of global protests. Hardt and Negri: "The extraordinary force of refusal is very important, of course, but we should be careful not to lose track in the din of the demonstrations and conflicts of a central element that goes beyond protest and resistance [...] the aspiration for a new kind of democracy..." As much as some may welcome this sense of refusal going on in the world, we should also not lose sight of the market mechanics and business activities that got us to this point in the first place. And we should also not lose sight of the fact that some of the "refusal" is owing to the brutal fact that many simply cannot financially afford to "accept" anymore.
It does appear that capitalism is under attack today more than it ever has been in the recent past. And for whatever reason, the attack is not so much about human actions or behavior, but the nature of the system itself. As in the case of private property rights, owing to technology people are able to pirate copyrighted material globally. Owing to technology, the right to privacy has been compromised.
Owing to technology, we are now able to see that creative and/or intellectual property rights are mere societal conventions for commerce. Two or more individuals (in a world of seven billion) could come up with the same plot for a book or melody for a song at the exact same time; (just as we no longer recognize the divine right of political leaders) today we can see in reality that ultimately in the grand scheme of things no one truly owns anything because there is no galactic or cosmic court of governance asserting itself on a daily basis; in this way, private property appears to be merely a social convention with no feudalistic divine or eternal backing. Property rights are only as good as the earthly system that backs them up. And it appears that the global system is cracking.
That being the case, in my humble opinion, the cracking of the global financial system and ongoing global protests serve as symptoms that humanity is experiencing a shift in consciousness. What that ultimately means, I cannot say, but I hope that such a shift in the human collective consciousness brings with it a rise in social maturity; maybe that is what 2012 will be about. I reference "social maturity" here as a hopeful departure from the materialistic, militant, whoever-dies-with-the-most-toys-wins mentality of human life. I think humanity deep down is better than that, and frankly, I think it's about time our species grows up. As such, the current global tumult may only be growing pains leading into a new era of human development.
What that new era may bring, I do not know. In the spirit of the so-called Chinese curse, all I know is this: We are living in interesting times.
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What is the #Occupy movement?
video A roundtable discussion with students and activists either directly involved with Occupy Wall St. or who are closely following the #Occupy movement.
Description:
The recent #Occupy protests are driven by discontent with the present state of affairs: glaring economic inequality, dead-end Democratic Party politics, and, for some, the suspicion that capitalism could never produce an equitable society. These concerns are coupled with aspirations for social transformation at an international level. For many, the protests at Wall St. and elsewhere provide an avenue to raise questions the Left has long fallen silent on:
What would it mean to challenge capitalism on a global scale?
How could we begin to overcome social conditions that adversely affect every part of life?
And, how could a new international radical movement address these concerns in practice?
http://vimeo.com/32300631
InterOccupy Open Message Re: Occupy Congress
For immediate release:
We, InterOccupy.org, are grateful to see such a well organized and united action being planned at Occupy DC for Janurary 17th. Occupiers from all over the country are planning on attending the “Occupy Congress” event and for those who can not attend, there will be solidarity marches in numerous cities. United actions like these lead to momentous shifts in the dialogue of our movement. It is always important to remain mindful that there are a variety of ways to participate and that no gathering of occupiers constitutes a ‘voice’ of our movement. In adhering to the principles of participatory democracy, the local always has powers not afforded to national or international assemblies. What our autonomy means is that no decision made at any assembly is binding on any other assembly....
http://interoccupy.org/interoccupy-open-message-re-occupy-congress/
The Irish squatters taking on empty homes and a bankrupt system
As Ireland reels from yet another austere budget and a year of economic pain, a group of young activists have begun to take over empty properties spawned by the boomand abandoned by banks and property developers across the country.
The squatters, linked to Ireland's Occupy movement, say they plan a mass occupation of houses and flats owned by the Irish government's "bad bank", National Asset Management Agency (Nama), which took over thousands of properties that speculators handed back after the crash
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There are up to 400,000 properties lying empty in the Republic, with the country's National Institute of Regional and Spatial Analysis (NIRSA) warning that the number of vacant properties could keep house prices low for years.
Mac an Bháird concedes that his group are breaking the law but argues that they are making an important political point. "There are thousands homeless in this country with about 2,000 on the streets of Dublin alone tonight. Yet across the city there are thousands of flats, apartments, homes lying empty – some could be fit for human habitation.
"Our occupation is a way of making a point about the system we are living under. These properties could lie vacant for up to 10 years or more – so why not put homeless people into them?".....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jan/03/ireland-squatters-occupy-...
Join Global Square mumble conference
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Occupy OKC and OK Trooper (and vid)
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=37942
Occupy...Nigeria?
http://news.firedoglake.com/2012/01/10/occupy-nigeria/
"If you think about it, the megacity of Lagos, Nigeria, almost devoid of pubic services to the poor, is the perfect place for the Occupy movement to spread..
'Nigerians furious over gasoline princes and government corruption clashed with police as a nationwide strike began Monday, the latest iteration of an ongoing protest dubbed 'Occupy Nigeria'..."
Occupiers to Converge on Olympia, WA in February
Occupy Olympia (WA) and the Alliance for Global Justice are hosting an Occupy Solidarity Social Forum Feb. 18-19 in the Washington state capital city. The self-organized, social forum-type gathering is open to all occupiers and allies.
Occupy Olympia agreed by consensus at General Assembly to host a self-organized gathering of the Occupy Wall Street Movement to network, build unity, share tactics, workshop strategies, discuss diversity and discuss how to develop action plans. Olympia is near the Seattle Tacoma airport, a travel hub. Free shuttle service will be available for participants. Olympia has a strong history of organizing and is home of The Evergreen State College offering plenty of meeting space. Occupy Olympia is a natural choice for hosting one of the nationally organized conferences springing forth from this movement because of its temperate weather, strong organizing history, overwhelming local support, proximity to a national airport and it’s local college support....
http://interoccupy.org/occupiers-to-converge-on-olympia-wa-in-february/
Judge rules in favor of OWS protesters retaking Zuccotti Park
video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bod5_Yvhd4k&feature=youtu.be
Report: Obama admin sends Coast Guard to protect ships from violent union members, occupiers
President Barack Obama’s administration has ordered the United States Coast Guard to protect grain ships at the Port of Longview from violent “Occupy” protesters and dockworker union members, according to a local news report.
The Daily News in Longview, Wash., reported that the Coast Guard will protect a grain shipment from an onslaught of “Occupy” protesters and members of the International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU). The ship will be transporting grain to Asia. A date for the shipment has not yet been set.
The group of leftwing activists had shut down ports all along the West Coast on Dec. 8, including the Port of Longview. The Coast Guard will apparently be helping the ship load its grain at the port, and then depart for Asia, safely.
The local unions and “Occupy” groups are planning to band together to protest the Coast Guard protections of the grain shipment when it happens....
In this essay, we claim that far from being a strength, the lack of demands reflects the weak ideological core of the movement. We also claim that demands should not be approached tactically but strategically, that is, they should be grounded in a long-term view of the political goals of the movement, a view that is currently lacking. Accordingly, in the second part of this text, we argue that this strategic view should be grounded in a politics of the commons. Before addressing the politics of the commons, however, we dispel three common objections that are raised against demands during general assemblies, meetings, and conversations people have about the Occupy movement.
First, demands are said to be potentially divisive as they may alienate those who disagree with them and discourage newcomers from a variety of backgrounds from joining it....
Second, it is argued that demands reduce the autonomy of the movement insofar as they endow an external agent - notably, the government or some other authority - with the task of solving problems the movement cannot solve for itself....
The third common objection, which stems from the second, is that by meeting some demands the government would be able to divide and integrate (parts of) the movement into the existing political landscape, thus undermining the movement's very reason for being....
read on...
President Barack Obama’s administration has ordered the United States Coast Guard to protect grain ships at the Port of Longview from violent “Occupy” protesters and dockworker union members, according to a local news report.
The Daily News in Longview, Wash., reported that the Coast Guard will protect a grain shipment from an onslaught of “Occupy” protesters and members of the International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU). The ship will be transporting grain to Asia. A date for the shipment has not yet been set.
The group of leftwing activists had shut down ports all along the West Coast on Dec. 8, including the Port of Longview. The Coast Guard will apparently be helping the ship load its grain at the port, and then depart for Asia, safely.
The local unions and “Occupy” groups are planning to band together to protest the Coast Guard protections of the grain shipment when it happens....
Love how they assume it's an "objective" headline to simply assume the union members are going to be violent...as if that just goes without saying...you stay classy, MSM.
Call to Protest: Slavoj Žižek urges renewed resistance video
Slavoj Žižek is regarded as one of the ideological pioneers of the Occupy movement, but he says its demands don't go far enough. Žižek sees no future for capitalism and is calling for a radical break with the past in favor of a new social order.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IieJmimGRNY
The day after: the movement beyond the protest
As our movement transforms from a protest into a new social climate, promising signs are emerging of a new cooperative form of social organization.
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That the right-wing Partido Popular would take an absolute majority of the government with only a minor increase in votes due to the spectacular disintegration of popular support for the outgoing Partido Socialista was no surprise to anyone, especially the indignados. What may have surprised some, however, is the relatively low intensity of mobilizations since the right wing took office and, slowly but steadily, announced that they would implement the same neoliberal policies and violent austerity imposed by technocratic regimes in Greece and Italy.
As Amador Fernández-Savater recently put it, the questions on a lot of peoples’ minds seem to be: “where are all those people who occupied the plazas and neighbourhood assemblies during the spring? Have they become disenchanted with the movement? Are they incapable of making lasting compromises? Are they resigned to their fates?”
Fernández-Savater doesn’t think so. “With no study in hand and generalizing simply based on the people I know personally and my own observations of myself, I think that, in general, people have gone on with their lives … But saying that they’ve gone on with their lives is a bad expression. For once you’ve gone through the plazas, you don’t leave the same, nor do you go back to the same life. Paradoxically, you come back to a new life: touched, crossed, affected by 15-M.”
And as he so eloquently puts it, 15-M is no mere social organization, but “a new social climate.” But how does a social climate organize itself? What new possibilities have revealed themselves after months of self-management, cooperative civil disobedience and massive mobilization, and what remains to be done?...
http://roarmag.org/2012/01/delclos-viejo-indignados-2012-15-m-spain/
eta:
Over time, the wave of mobilizations that first hit the shores of the Mediterranean and extended outwards over the course of 2011 has overcome its initial, expressive phase. This phase managed to substitute the dominant narrative with our own. We now know that the problem is not some mysterious technical failure we call a crisis, but the intentional crimes of a cleptocracy.
This distinction is crucial: while the first suggests a management dilemma that opposes left- and right-wing approaches to the crisis, the second draws a line between the 1 percent who abuse power in order to steal from the people and those who refuse to consent and choose to resist in the name of the other 99 percent....
Slavoj Žižek is regarded as one of the ideological pioneers of the Occupy movement...
By himself and who else, exactly?
That's the first time I've ever heard anything even remotely suggesting that to be the case.
Slavoj Žižek is regarded as one of the ideological pioneers of the Occupy movement...
By himself and who else, exactly?
That's the first time I've ever heard anything even remotely suggesting that to be the case.
..i wondered about giving him this title as well. i am aware that he has a following of young people within the global movement and he was very well received in OWS. i see him more as an adopted elder. what i like about him is that his analysis is alive and flexible. he tries to bring the lessons from the old to this new, young movement in a very supportive way. to listen to his interaction with ows street you can clearly see the attraction to him and why.
Today Liberty Plaza had a visit from Slavoj Zizek
Thursday 1/19/12 - 4PM EST / 3PM CST / 2PM MST / 1PM PST
Women Occupy Call
FOR WHO: People who are interested in organizing from a feminist/anti-oppressive perspective - particularly but not exclusively people who are female-assigned and/or female-identifying. People who are committed to supporting the leadership of women, female-assigned, and LGBTQ organizers and to confronting patriarchy, heterosexism, and transphobia within and as a movement.
PURPOSE: This is an inter-occupation call to connect women, female-assigned and feminist organizers from across the movement in order to identify what our needs are and how we can work together.
http://myaccount.maestroconference.com/conference/register/5V6YABA5I2S6L...
Occupy Wall Street's Next Phase: Avoid Cooptation in Election Season - by Glen Ford
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/01/18-9
"The real 'phase two' of Occupy Wall Street's young career is a perilous period of greatly increased interaction of OWS with local Democratic politicians. It has been forty years since a presidential campaign took place in the presence of a grassroots movement - or, the remnants of a movement, back in 1972.
Except for some older heads, OWS has little experience in avoiding - or even detecting - the Democratic Party's cooptive machinery, as is becoming obvious..."
the same toxic and cooptive entanglements must be avoided here, as well...
It's beginning to sound like they've been co-opted themselves if appealing to corporate indentured politicans is the next phase.
..here's something that occurred here in nov. i don't have any further info.
Skirmish with fire department, police leads ex-Occupy organizers to reach out to cityFollowing a skirmish last night between firefighters, police and protesters at Occupy Vancouver, some of the protest's organizers met late Tuesday night with the B.C. Federation of Labour to discuss ways forward – without authorization from the encampment....
http://www.vancouverobserver.com/politics/2011/11/08/skirmish-fire-depar...
How about "32 hour workweek with no reduction in pay"
which should lower unemployment and reduce wealth disparity between the bosses and the workers.
The problem with Occupy is that it does not seem to have any concrete goals.
How about "32 hour workweek with no reduction in pay"
which should lower unemployment and reduce wealth disparity between the bosses and the workers.
The problem with Occupy is that it does not seem to have any concrete goals.
..movements that came before this one had goals and yet here we sit on the brink of many disasters. it is not that simple to bring people together. first they need to have a vision then they need to be impowered then want to come together in the face of all their divisions and in the face of police brutality to try and make a better world. if the mind set is goals it has missed the movement's essence. that essence played out using direct democracy as the vehicle.
as the original post was mine, i can only hope that the passion to debate these issues surrounding the occupy movement doesn't abate. nor do i relish the thought of the occupy movement going anywhere near elections in the u.s. or anywhere else. however, from my view in ottawa, canada, occupy has two things that it must move ahead on. recent polls i've seen have shown close to 80% agreed or strongly agreed with bottom line occupy principles - the gap between the poor and the rich is too great and the links between big business and government are too strong. to me this means that there remains support for occupy's goals but occupy has to get out in community, hold meetings, educate people on what they can do locally. there's not very many people from the suburbs ready to march on a picket line, but they might change their shopping or banking methods. second, occupy has to get together on how it will be directed in the months to come. they need to reach out to the arts community, for example, for support but first they have to point in one direction. i tell you the 3 1/2 general meetings that seem to plod along are getting very tiresome.
but i'm awfully glad that their is enough interest and concern to engender this kind of debate.
Onwards and Upwards Occupy!
Trials of One Per Cent to Begin At Occupy Justice (UK)
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2012/01/491278.html
UK Government to Go on Trial
http://london.indymedia.org/videos/11483
great idea
The problem with Occupy is that it does not seem to have any concrete goals.
And the reasons for that are mainly two: lack of leadership and being tied to an antiquated notion that all decisions must be arrived at by "consensus" (the great killer of concrete goals).
The problem with Occupy is that it does not seem to have any concrete goals.
And the reasons for that are mainly two: lack of leadership and being tied to an antiquated notion that all decisions must be arrived at by "consensus" (the great killer of concrete goals).
You may be right about "consensus" - if it's interpreted as "unanimity" (is that your usage?) - but I'm curious as to why you call it "antiquated".
"Consensus" as used by the Occupy movement essentially gives everyone a veto. It takes interminable discussions and debates to make a decision that ends up vague, unfocused, and watered down sufficiently that everyone will tolerate it, but not necessarily like it.
It's an antiquated holdover from certain Sixties "new left" movements where majority rule was considered an undesirable way to make decisions. This, and numerous other factors, resulted in their drifting into impotence and irrelevance. Some people have learned nothing in fifty years.
Gotcha - thanks.
The problem with Occupy is that it does not seem to have any concrete goals.
And the reasons for that are mainly two: lack of leadership and being tied to an antiquated notion that all decisions must be arrived at by "consensus" (the great killer of concrete goals).
But, surely, those two reasons are not necessarily exhaustive? Perhaps, as among so many of the larger, non-activist polity, members have absolutely no idea "where to go from here?" Solutions are beyond them? At least, none that appeal to the not-so-concerned, the vast majority of the 99 per cent? That certainly explained much about the 60s.
Not necessarily exhaustive, no. I did say "mainly", and I stand by that.
Having no idea "where to go from here" is, as you note, a huge problem. It's the same problem, however, that I call "lack of leadership". Because the job of leaders is to lead, to persuade the larger polity of what is to be done, and what is to be done next. In the absence of leaders with a clear analysis and political vision, it's left to the "larger, non-activist polity" to fend for themselves.
There is a crisis of leadership on the left, and it's far worse than it was in the 1960s.
It's an antiquated holdover from certain Sixties "new left" movements where majority rule was considered an undesirable way to make decisions. This, and numerous other factors, resulted in their drifting into impotence and irrelevance. Some people have learned nothing in fifty years....[T]he job of leaders is to lead, to persuade the larger polity of what is to be done, and what is to be done next. In the absence of leaders with a clear analysis and political vision, it's left to the "larger, non-activist polity" to fend for themselves.
It sounds to me that you want to replace one "antiquated holdover" with an even older myth: one in which great men inspire the masses to better themselves. The "antiquated holdover" you speak of emerged in a historical moment when previously excluded groups were beginning to join a public discourse dominated by traditional holders of power--it wasn't some random experiment. Rather than dismiss Occupy for acknowledging this development and taking up its challenge (and at the same time advocate for a 19th-century power structure), I would like to see Occupy's allies solve the problems in its procedures and overcome the barriers preventing its success with support and solidarity.
..i believe the argument for goals is really an argument against direct democracy. it's not that the occupy does not have goals it's just that they don't have specific goal. there are goals that say no more war, no more pollution and no more domination by the market and no more buying of politicians. this is almost global. this is not enough for some because they are not goals that can be used by a political party to say see we are the best people to better advance your goal.
..the m-15 in spain , to which most of the north american occupies have been modelled after, first coined the phrase last summer that “no one represents us”. this came from their real life experience that all political parties, once in power, served the interest of capital no matter left or right, no matter what they promised at election time or had in their constitutions. so how were the spanish to then make decisions if inclusion was key? 50% plus one? they chose consensus.
..here in vancouver they chose consensus as well. it was not based on a sixties model because there is no model to follow that fits what has come about or what is needed. first it was chosen, even before the first assembly, because that was the model being followed in europe. more importantly, from the first assembly forward it became what the first peoples practised for generations. the van occupy has been slowly transforming this decision making process with the help of the native community into a workable model. as are all other occupies based on their life experiences. this is not the final result, this is a the beginning.
..it is inaccurate to suggest that anyone has a veto. this does not exist. I doubt if there is an occupy, i may be wrong, left that has absolute consensus. in van ways have been found to keep things moving forward. and it is those people who are going to decide how their decisions are going to be made in a participatory manner. should there be disagreement go on down to the occupies and fight for your ideas in a supportive way as this is the best chance that i see to create a different world. imo.
That was inspiring, epaulo13.
Conciatori eviction: crackdown on the commons continues
The eviction of the oldest social center in Florence this morning is yet another instance of a worldwide crackdown on public space and civil liberties.
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The expulsion brought to a close thirty-two years of cultural, social and political activities that had rendered Progetto Conciatori a beacon of autonomous civic organisation and direct democracy, and a fount of cultural innovation. It offered legal services to immigrants, and provided crèche facilities and a variety of courses ranging from multimedia skills to yoga to the local community.
This is a concrete result of the wider rubric that strives to delegitimize the concept of public space and its collective deployment for the common good. This development prioritizes the commercial over the civic, and under its aegis, all that is not conceived of in monetary terms of profit and loss is condemned as a historic anomaly inhibiting the inexorable drive to further “progress”.
It has taken an ominously concrete form in the clampdown on the Occupy Movement across the United States — a clampdown that has quashed the dissenting voices emerging from these shared, public, ‘Occupied’ spaces, through intimidation, sometimes brutal violence, and mass arrests....
http://roarmag.org/2012/01/conciatori-eviction-crackdown-on-the-commons-...
Agreed. A fitting sentiment on which to close this thread.