so they finally admit it!

storywizard
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We get the Globe and Mail at home, and there was this article on jobs and the economy as regards China. It was interesting to read that some American economists are admitting that globalization does indeed harm most if not all of the 99%...a little late and how to take back what we have lost...

 

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Gaian
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Great link, storywizard.

John Ralston Saul tried to initiate discourse on the subject nearly a decade ago with this:

A peek at John Ralston Saul's The Collapse of Globalism: and the Rebirth of Nationalism in the March, 2004 issue of Harper's Magazine would not be a bad place to start, perhaps. It convinced me - along with the idea of peak oil, etc. - that this must happen.

The Collapse of Globalism: and ... - John Ralston Saul : Other Writings

www.johnralstonsaul.com/eng/articles_detail.php?id=6〈=eng

Folks here avoided discussion under a Globalism vs Nationalism rubric. What approach would you recommend to initiate discussion? Constantly reciting a litany of disheartening events taken from the MSM is of no interest to this babbler.


Gaian
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http://rabble.ca/babble/current-events/national-news

Attempts to articulate "a way out" died the usual death here as well, under Neo-liberal rampage.


Slumberjack
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Gaian wrote:
Folks here avoided discussion under a Globalism vs Nationalism rubric. 

Likely the result of there being little interest in discussing a regression to nation state nationalism as an alternative. It's like giving urea-formaldehyde a second look after finding the recently installed asbestos insulation unsatisfactory. Something has to be done about the global oligarchy, and then about the millions of snow bound consumers demanding their fresh bananas and what not year round, along with the latest model flat screens produced as cheaply as possible, and everything else. We don't currently have available to us, nor is there every likely to be, a popular movement that talks about localizing ourselves and placing limits on consumption. We might as well give absurdism a read because I think it would tie in nicely with such a conversation, absent of so many clear acknowledgements. Down with the banks, with Wall Street and the City, with usury and with all other forms of indebtedness.


Gaian
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Naomi Klein has an excellent essay in this month's CCPA Monitor,for those Interested in discussing how to counteract globalism, not furthering mystification.


Slumberjack
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The mystification comes from discussing the changing of gears aboard the same decrepit jalopy.


Gaian
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Slumberjack, it is such ego-driven nonsense that make this site a study in despondency and irrelevance. Try not to infect others with your nihilism.


Slumberjack
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I think nihilism is involved when people continue to define and subscribe to things that offer no way out from the the current political, economic and environmental impasses. We're living the nihilistic dream without ever having to personally donate an errant brick or a matchstick to the cause.  But I see that you remain unconvinced of this fact.  That's ok though.  Both of our grandchildren and certainly theirs will better understand.


Gaian
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"Likely the result of there being little interest in discussing a regression to nation state nationalism as an alternative."

"The mystification comes from discussing the changing of gears aboard the same decrepit jalopy."

"I think nihilism is involved when people continue to define and subscribe to things that offer no way out from the the current political, economic and environmental impasses."
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Despite constant attempts to direct discussion toward solutions?

Do you ever really listen to yourself, Eeyore?


Slumberjack
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Gaian wrote:
Despite constant attempts to direct discussion toward solutions?

Ok...go...but just in case....


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