Ontario 2018 Election Results & Discussion

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NorthReport

CBC predicts PC government!

And its going to be a big one.

jerrym

Results 

PC 68

NDP 40 

Lib 7

Green 1

https://globalnews.ca/news/4257183/ontario-election-results-2018/

CTV says Mas Schreiner (Green) elected.

Cody87

Well that was quick.

gadar

hahahhaha lol. It will be very hard for Andrea to pick a cabinet now.

NorthReport

PCs 40%

NDP 35%

Libs 18%

jerrym

Cody87 wrote:

Well that was quick.

Electronic voting. 

NorthReport

70-39-8-1

21 minutes for a majority government

Pondering

This is disastrous. The Liberals must be  happy.

Cody87

CBC is indirectly slamming FPTP right now, talking about how progressive voters have 60-65% of the vote and no representation.

I'm amazed by the size of the green lead in Guelph.

Seems OLP might hold on to official party status after all.

progressive17 progressive17's picture

Days of Action coming, no doubt!

SocialJustice101

Pondering, why would the Liberals be happy??    I suppose Liberal candidates might be happy about (probably) retaining bare minimum official party status, but I don't see why Liberals supporters would be happy.

Pondering

SocialJustice101 wrote:

Pondering, why would the Liberals be happy??    I suppose Liberal candidates might be happy about (probably) retaining bare minimum official party status, but I don't see why Liberals supporters would be happy.

I was referring to the party not supporters in general but even supporters must be relieved that they are maintaining official party status.

Cody87

SocialJustice101 wrote:

Pondering, why would the Liberals be happy??    I suppose Liberal candidates might be happy about (probably) retaining bare minimum official party status, but I don't see why Liberals supporters would be happy.

Next time, Liberals will have an easier time beating PC's than NDP.

SocialJustice101

The official party is not that important.   ONDP lost it in 2003, and regained the status in 2007.   I don't think the voting public noticed any difference.   As long as the party has at least 1 elected MPP and can participate in the leaders' debate.

Cody87

Cody87 wrote:

Peterborough has since 1977. And I bet it will tonight as well.

Peterborough was just called for PCs.

laine lowe laine lowe's picture

Out of province observer and I really thought that there was a chance for the NDP to win or at least hold power in a PC minority government. This is so disappointing.

 

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

Pogo wrote:

I took it being a post in an Ontario Election thread doesn't need to clarify the location. I think he was just adding a bit of levity with no ill will intended.

That's right.  

SocialJustice101

NorthReport wrote:

CBC predicts PC government!

And its going to be a big one.

Job well done for you then?

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

Pondering wrote:

SocialJustice101 wrote:

Pondering, why would the Liberals be happy??    I suppose Liberal candidates might be happy about (probably) retaining bare minimum official party status, but I don't see why Liberals supporters would be happy.

I was referring to the party not supporters in general but even supporters must be relieved that they are maintaining official party status.

We could also assume a lot of them(including Wynne)would rather have seen this type of result than even a minority NDP government.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

SocialJustice101 wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

CBC predicts PC government!

And its going to be a big one.

Job well done for you then?

North  never wanted a PC win.  He just gets a bit melodramatic about swings in the polls, as he showed in the last coupld of days. 

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

Cody87 wrote:

SocialJustice101 wrote:

Pondering, why would the Liberals be happy??    I suppose Liberal candidates might be happy about (probably) retaining bare minimum official party status, but I don't see why Liberals supporters would be happy.

Next time, Liberals will have an easier time beating PC's than NDP.

They wouldn't ever even have had that THIS time.  The areas that swung PC were going to swing PC no matter which party was in second.  And it was never going to be possible for the Liberals to come back from being 20 points behind.

josh

Looks like the NDP lost ground in the final days.  

josh

Ken Burch wrote:

Cody87 wrote:

SocialJustice101 wrote:

Pondering, why would the Liberals be happy??    I suppose Liberal candidates might be happy about (probably) retaining bare minimum official party status, but I don't see why Liberals supporters would be happy.

Next time, Liberals will have an easier time beating PC's than NDP.

They wouldn't ever even have had that THIS time.  The areas that swung PC were going to swing PC no matter which party was in second.  And it was never going to be possible for the Liberals to come back from being 20 points behind.

Conservatives were leading in all the polls the last 2 years. The only thing that could have stopped them was Ford.  And he wasn’t enough.  

gadar

Cons will win more often than not inspite of progressives being in majority. Reason is some progressives dont like others because they are not progressive enough.

NorthReport

That’s a massive Doug Ford majority so Liberals can’t be blamed for all of it

 

progressive17 progressive17's picture

1. Now Notley and Trudeau have a big ally in the pipeline debate.
2. The CAQ will be rubbing their hands in glee, and now this means Couillard can tack right instead of left to compete. Legault will call Ford to congratulate him, and Ford will say "Who?"
3. Like after the Trump election, there should be a pop on the Toronto Stock Exchange as the 1% also rub their hands in glee.
4. Because Ford didn't say he would do much, he does not have to do much to be able to get the Mike Harris reputation of "He did what he said what he would do", even if he made them swallow razor blades.
5. Privatization of many things which have not been privatized yet.
6. Driving a tank through the Canada Health Act to allow a large proliferation of private health clinics, as we have in Quebec. $1 beer analgesia for everyone else.
7. Labour unrest as he tries to lay off thousands of Ontario civil servants.
8. "Free Speech" for the alt-right on college campuses.
9. Ford can let Deco Labels sink, now he has a better job, and prospects for a very nice future career in the bigtime private sector after slashing and burning the government. Deco bankruptcy to follow. 
10. Less money for education, paving the way for more Conservative governments in the future. Students will be told to use Wikipedia instead of teachers.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

Cody87 wrote:

Debater wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

If you had to choose one riding as a bellweather riding which one would it be?

Ottawa Centre?

Orleans.

It has voted the way of the winning party for the past 2 decades, both provincially and federally.

Peterborough has since 1977. And I bet it will tonight as well.

Orleans ended up voting OLP...Ottawa Centre voted ONDP.

jerrym

It's in the interest of the Cons to give the Liberals party status even if they do not win eight seats because the resources would likely help the splitting of the vote on the centre and left in order to try to hopefully continue the same old Lib-Con-Lib-Con-Lib-Con system of rule when the people get tired of the Cons. It may not work if they try but one thing is for sure, both of them will continue the be afraid, be very, very afraid of the scary NDP.

 

 

SocialJustice101

I wouldn't count on Ford doing it.   He's a bully.    The official party status does not matter to voters anyway.

jerrym

They might not do it but it is to their advantage to do it. 

 

SocialJustice101

That requires some long-term strategic planning, which I don't think Ford is capable of.     If OLP gets less money, they will be slightly less of a threat to Ford during the next election.

jerrym

Lisa MacLeod says Doug is the next Ralph Klein. How reassuring!

NorthReport

 

The PCs won the government 

the NDP is Official Opposition for 4 long years

The Liberals don’t even have party status 

Who cares about the Liberals anymore except their cronies in the CBC!

NorthReport
SocialJustice101

How much was the NDP official opposition able to achieve federally 2011-2015? 

Ciabatta2

This is the worst result for the NDP.  If Horwath can't beat Ford, if the NDP can't win ridings like Kenora and Brant and Sarnia and Scarborough-Rouge River now, when will they?

SocialJustice101

Does the NDP have a ground game?   They are underforming their worst polls at this point.

NorthReport

Just the usual Liberal talking points - no matter what happens attack the NDP!

 

NorthReport
jerrym

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jerrym

jerrym wrote:

Ciabatta2 wrote:

This is the worst result for the NDP.  If Horwath can't beat Ford, if the NDP can't win ridings like Kenora and Brant and Sarnia and Scarborough-Rouge River now, when will they?

No the worst result for a party was that of the Liberals in every way. Actually the worse result is for the people of Ontario. It's revealing that you don't talk about the latter. 

NorthReport

Not only that but regardless of the silly Liberal talking points here this is going to be a freakin nitemare for Trudeau.  2019 might well be an exceptionally good year for Jagmeet Singh and the federal NDP

JKR

NorthReport wrote:

 

The PCs won the government 

the NDP is Official Opposition for 4 long years

The Liberals don’t even have party status 

Who cares about the Liberals anymore except their cronies in the CBC!

The Liberals are done for!

They won't be back in 4 years!!

Left Turn Left Turn's picture

progressive17 wrote:
4. Because Ford didn't say he would do much, he does not have to do much to be able to get the Mike Harris reputation of "He did what he said what he would do", even if he made them swallow razor blades.

One of Ford's big promises is to fire the CEO of Hydro One. I don't know how he can do this since Hydro One is now privatized.

SocialJustice101

Would progressive Ontario voters want Jagmeet Singh to do as "well" in Ontario as Horwath did?   And usher in another Con majority government federally?    I don't think so.    It was a failed experiment.  The NDP can't win 905.

JKR

NorthReport wrote:

Not only that but regardless of the silly Liberal talking points here this is going to be a freakin nitemare for Trudeau.  2019 might well be an exceptionally good year for Jagmeet Singh and the federal NDP

Trudeau's going to have a nightmare running against Scheer and now Ford!! Trudeau must be disconsolate at losing the advantage of being linked with a popular premier like ex-Premier Wynne!!

NorthReport

We are now witnessing the usual Liberal behaviour when they get crushed They start flailing about looking for anyone but themselves to blame 

The NDP doubled their number of seats and the Liberals were so decimated they didn’t even get party status

In the Legislature for the next 4 years the Liberals will have the same status as the one Green. My hunch is that the Greens could do better than the Liberals in the next Ontario election

NorthReport

Andrea doubled her seat count and is now the Leader of progressive Ontario. Next election Andrea will become Premier

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