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Ontario By-elections

David Young
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Since there are two seats that Liberals M.P.P.s have resigned from, London West and Windsor-Tecumseh, has there been any speculation when by-elections would be held to replace them?  (Barring the fall of the Wynne government!)

 


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Stockholm
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The byelections have to be called by mid-August...since the Liberals are likely to do badly, I think they might call them for mid-summer when as few people as possible will be paying attention.


David Young
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If the Liberals aren't defeated over the budget, is there any speculation if McGuinty will stay on as an M.P.P., or resign as well?

 


janfromthebruce
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Sattler wins London West NDP nomination

A public school board trustee has won the provincial NDP nomination in a bid to fill a London seat left vacant by ex-minister Chris Bentley.

Sattler is the former Chair of the TVDSB, and former OPSBA Western region vice president.

This is a link to her facebook page which tells you a lot more about her background, particularly her NDP background with the party.

https://www.facebook.com/PeggySattlerONDP?filter=1

 


jerrym
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Good news for the NDP on the byelection front thanks to a poll of southwestern Ontario.

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With the government safe for the time being, the focus turns to the impending by-elections in the southwestern Ontario ridings of London West and Windsor-Tecumseh. They will apparently be called after the budget is passed. As the two seats were formerly occupied by Liberals, the government will not be able to secure a majority by winning them as they could have done in Kitchener-Waterloo last year. Liberals finished a distant third in that contest, an outcome they will want to avoid repeating.

The two by-elections should be competitive, with London West potentially a three-way race and Windsor-Tecumseh a close NDP-Liberal battle. Grits will have a tough fight on their hands, as in addition to losing their incumbency advantage the party has taken a hit in the region. Ipsos-Reid pegs Liberal support at only 25 per cent in southwestern Ontario, compared to 34 per cent for the NDP and 35 per cent for the Tories. That represents a swing of roughly 10 points between the Liberals and the NDP since the 2011 election, which alone has the potential to move Windsor-Tecumseh into the NDP’s column and the Liberals behind the PCs in London West.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/05/29/andrea-horwath-ontario-poll_n_33...


David Young
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When is the Ontario Legislature scheduled to end it's sitting?

Any thoughts about whether McGinty will resign his seat?

 


David Young
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CTV News just said that McGinty will be resigning his seat tomorrow.

Three by-elections (and counting) on the way.

 

 


toaster
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Might Bartolucci also announce?


mark_alfred
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McGuinty just announced he's going to resign today (2013/06/12).


NorthReport
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Ottawa South 2011 Election Results

21,842 48.86% L * DALTON MCGUINTY - Down 1% - 6,897 vote plurality
14,945 33.43% PC JASON MACDONALD - Down 3%
5,988 13.39% ND WALI FARAH  - Up 4%
1,442 3.23% GP JAMES MIHAYCHUK
252 0.56% LTN JEAN-SERGE BRISSON
238 0.53% PPSN JOHN REDINS

 

Ottawa South 2007 Election Results

24,015 50.13% L * DALTON MCGUINTY - Down - 2% - 9,709 vote plurality
14,206 29.66% PC RICHARD RAYMOND - Down 4%
4,467 9.33% ND EDELWEISS D'ANDREA - No Change
3,902 8.15% GP JOHN FORD
927 1.94% FCP DAVID MACDONALD
384 0.80% LTN JEAN-SERGE BRISSON

 

Ottawa South 2003 Election Results


24607 - 51.7 L Space *DALTON MCGUINTY - 8,234 vote plurality
16,413 - 34.43 PC               RICHARD RAYMOND
4,306 - 9.03 ND SpaceJAMES MCLAREN

http://www.elections.on.ca/en-ca


Sean in Ottawa
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http://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2013/06/18/poll_tories_could_win_...

The Forum Research survey conducted Thursday found the Tories at 37 per cent, the Liberals at 34 per cent, the NDP at 22 per cent, and the Greens at 4 per cent.

Would be very bad if the Conservatives take Ontario again.


adma
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Though that's a surprisingly high number for the NDP at this point--indeed, the whole poll reads as if it could have been conducted a few months ago, when the Liberals were bogged in third province-wide as Hudak and Horwath duked it out for the lead...


janfromthebruce
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Sean that seat is in Ottawa and not an NDP friendly riding so adma is right - that's a good poll for the NDP in Eastern Ontario. If they got a super candidate who knows what would happen. Incidently, in the byelection in KitWat and before the candidates were chosen the first poll was about what this poll was.

Remember, the NDP got a super well known candidate and they won big time. It can happen.

As for the other 2 byelections in southwestern Ontario, the polls show the NDP and cons statitically tied and the libs 10 percentage points behind.


David Young
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Would the Conservatives be in a better position to take this riding?

 


Robo
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David Young wrote:

Would the Conservatives be in a better position to take this riding?

 

Better than what or whom?

David Young
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Robo wrote:

David Young wrote:

Would the Conservatives be in a better position to take this riding?

 

Better than what or whom?

Than the Liberals.

Is this a 'safe' Liberal seat, or another one they could lose?

 


David Young
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Etobicoke-Lakeshore becomes vacant seat #4 on July 2.

Just how many are leaving the Liberals, I wonder.

 


felixr
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David Young wrote:

Etobicoke-Lakeshore becomes vacant seat #4 on July 2.

Just how many are leaving the Liberals, I wonder.

Finally an open seat in Brian Topp's own home riding. He said he wanted to run federally, but just think what a powerful presence he'd be on the provincial stage: the guy can fundraise, run communications, conduct targetted strategy, organise, set out a vision, and write policy (of which the ONDP has virtually none). The ONDP would be very fortunate to have Brian Topp as a candidate. This is probably also the best shot the ONDP has had at winning the seat since the Rae landslide. The Liberal incumbent is quitting under the shadow of a major scandal (the power plant cancelation), seriously pissed off the teacher's union (which had a BIG effect on electing the NDP in the Kitchener Waterloo byelection), it is a byelection that will not change the government, and the ONDP has been in first place in the polls as recently as 1 year ago while remaining very high ever since. If I were Topp and had any serious intention of ever involving myself in electoral politics, I think this would be too good an opportunity to pass up. I bet if he sought the nomination, he would be virtually unopposed. If he won election, he would transform the ONDP.


Stockholm
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Topp lives in Parkdale-High Park not Etobicoke-Lakeshore


felixr
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Stockholm wrote:

Topp lives in Parkdale-High Park not Etobicoke-Lakeshore

Doh!


NorthReport
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 Liberals did the same thing in BC.

Citizen McGuinty even more hypocritical than as premier

(The controversial plants in Oakville and Mississauga were abruptly cancelled, the latter announced as a Liberal party campaign promise, and the costs — at least $585 million is the best estimate — consistently downplayed and lowballed by the government.)

If possible, McGuinty the private citizen is more arrogant, less forthcoming and more hypocritical than the politician McGuinty.

He was asked back in the wake of a withering report earlier this month from the province’s Information and Privacy CommissionerAnn Cavoukian.

Sparked by a complaint from New Democrat MPP Peter Tabuns, who is also the most effective questioner on the committee, the probe revealed that senior political staff in McGuinty’s office were routinely deleting all emails in what she found was likely an attempt to avoid scrutiny.

Cavoukian herself appeared at the committee just before McGuinty.

She was there to answer questions and rebut testimony last week from the former premier’s chief of staff, Chris Morley, to the effect that there were so many rules telling staff to press delete that he counted 99 separate ones and golly, how was a body to keep track of it all?

In very neutral language, Cavoukian showed that  Morley’s 99 rules are a crock. They boil down to far fewer, she said, and there are actually only four categories of records that need not be maintained and there is, anyway, no mandatory requirement to delete any of them.

“It is called the Archives and Record-Keeping Act,” Cavoukian noted dryly, “not Record-Deleting Act.”

Her point was that the legislative thrust is on document retention, not deletion, and anyone with half a wit would and should have known that.

A casual exchange with Tabuns towards the end of Cavoukian’s testimony nicely illustrates that ordinary common practice is the opposite of the McGuinty senior ranks.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/national/Citizen+McGuinty+even+more+hyp...

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Deleted gas-plant email trail

Ann Cavoukian, Ontario's information and privacy commissioner, on former Premier Dalton McGuinty's testimony on illegally deleted gas-plant emails

"Evan please, this in not rocket science!" Laughing

http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Politics/ID/2393973394/


Krago
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At this rate, the Libs could be in opposition by Labour Day!

Former minister Margarett Best resigning as MPP


David Young
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How much does it cost to hold a by-election when an elected M.P.P. resigns? (I know...the same amount as if the M.P.P. died!)

Perhaps the political parties that have members resign should be forced to pay the costs, since people vote for candidates believing that they will be there for the full term.

 


onlinediscountanvils
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Krago wrote:

At this rate, the Libs could be in opposition by Labour Day!

Former minister Margarett Best resigning as MPP

Having outlasted Best, Madeleine Meilleur has nothing left to prove, so I can only hope she'll be the next to go.


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Policywonk
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Krago wrote:

At this rate, the Libs could be in opposition by Labour Day!

Former minister Margarett Best resigning as MPP

Not likely; the NDP would never support the Conservatives, and I don't think the Liberals will be forced into an election when the legislature is not in session.


felixr
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These byelections are all winnable by the ONDP. They are all occuring in future target ridings for the NDP, which is why the federal NDP should be keenly interested. Being byelections, the ONDP can through every resource at them. These byelections will be an excellent test of the ONDP's mettle and organizational readiness for a future election.


David Young
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Another scenario to consider?

Wynne waits untill the last moment to schedule the by-elections (at least the first ones due) and then 'to spare the taxpayers of Ontario the expense', she decides that a provincial election should be held, and therefore (ramming it down the electorate's throats time-and-time-again) that they should re-elect the Premier who acts so responsibly towards the province's finances.

Does anyone see this as a possibility?

 


janfromthebruce
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onlinediscountanvils wrote:

Ken Coran: like a BOSS

Yes, the Lib cabinet including Wynne all voted for anti union Bill #115, and now here comes Anti union boss. Looks like the riding association is miffed at the parachut candidate being dropped in their laps.

Now what was all that anti govt rhetoric all about and the sacrifices the teachers made?


autoworker
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David Young wrote:

Another scenario to consider?

Wynne waits untill the last moment to schedule the by-elections (at least the first ones due) and then 'to spare the taxpayers of Ontario the expense', she decides that a provincial election should be held, and therefore (ramming it down the electorate's throats time-and-time-again) that they should re-elect the Premier who acts so responsibly towards the province's finances.

Does anyone see this as a possibility?

 

Why not simply call a 'back to school' election?

Junkyard Dog
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Does anyone see this as a possibility?

It certainly looks plausible to me. And you know, on a personal level, Wynne gives off a vibe that is pretty non-threatening. I doubt it's an act, either; she genuinely seems like a pleasant enough woman. She's definitely more appealing on a purely personal basis than an arrogant prick like McGuinty, and comes off as far more human than Hudak. (Not that the latter is such an accomplishment, being that Hudak's about as cuddly as a rattlesnake.) The Liberals may be counting on that factor - combined with the "fiscal responsibility" card, natch - to be enough to carry the next election.


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