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Premier Kathleen Wynne

theleftyinvestor
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adma wrote:

I'm wondering if it's time for another thread centred upon Wynne rather than McGuinty's resignation...

Your wish is my command.


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David Young
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I wish to repeat a question that I put in the previous thread, but did not receive any responses to...

Will there be any new pressure put on one of the sitting NDP M.P.P.s to cross the floor for a cabinet post now that Wynne is Premier?

Have any of the M.P.P.'s indicated that he/she wouldn't be re-offering next time, and that would give the Liberals extra incentive to try to entice that one vote they need for a majority?

Just wondering if someone more in the know could inform me!

 


theleftyinvestor
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I think if it didn't happen under McGuinty, it won't happen under Wynne.


adma
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A little trivia: she's the third oldest "new premier" (after T.L. Kennedy in 1948 and James Whitney in 1905)


Socialist Feminist
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"Local teacher's union leaders say they want a new education minister"

http://www.tbnewswatch.com/news/261292/Time-for-change

 

Quote: "Caccamo said while he doesn’t expect Wynne to tear up the contracts forced
upon teachers that took away a number of perks, including the right to bank sick
days through to retirement, there are ways for former premier Dalton McGuinty’s
replacement to reach out and show there’s a new attitude toward teachers at
Queen’s Park.

There are plenty of localized issues that the education minister could allows
boards to individually negotiate, and plenty of potential candidates who would
allow it to happen, he added."

 

That bit surprised me a bit (the part about a deal maybe happening even if W. doesn't tear up the contracts).


Ken Burch
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adma wrote:

A little trivia: she's the third oldest "new premier" (after T.L. Kennedy in 1948 and James Whitney in 1905)

And that matters how, exactly?


toaster
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Rick Bartolucci announced today he is retiring from politics.  He has asked Wynne not to consider him for any Ministry postings.  Possibly opens up Ministry of Development and Mines to Orazietti.  Sudbury is a sure thing now for the NDP.  Bartolucci will remain the MPP for Sudbury until the next election.


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Ken Burch wrote:

adma wrote:

A little trivia: she's the third oldest "new premier" (after T.L. Kennedy in 1948 and James Whitney in 1905)

And that matters how, exactly?

She's the youngest ever woman premier of Ontario.


adma
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It's also weird to reflect upon her third-oldestness given the apparent "modernity" of her being an Urban Lesbian Premier (then again, Jack Layton would be older than any of that now)


Boom Boom
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She's also the first unelected woman Premier of Ontario.  Andrea would be the first elected Premier of Ontario when she wins the next provincial election. Wink


Wilf Day
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The media keep saying "Canada first openly gay premier." Really, how non-open was Dick Hatfield? It was not only well-known, it was often mentioned in the media. Are you only out of the closet if you talk about it publicly?


Bacchus
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I dont remember ever reading anything about wynne's sexual preference until the leadership convention. Did she only come out for this?


Socialist Feminist
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No, she came out years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Wynne

 

 

Two things in the news today:

 

Liz Sandals is now the education minister.

http://www.therecord.com/news/canada/article/884570--guelph-mpp-liz-sandals-named-new-education-minister-sources

 

3-way dead heat in new poll.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2013/02/20130211-081723.html

Tea Party 33%

NDP 31%

Liberal 30%

 

 


mark_alfred
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The Liberals have gained ground since the last polls were done.


Boom Boom
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mark_alfred wrote:

The Liberals have gained ground since the last polls were done.

Can't imagine why. What have the Ontario Liberals done that could possibly gain them any support?

Oh - I get it, McQuintry is finally gone! Laughing


janfromthebruce
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Actually, according to the pollster, any gain by the Liberals is within the margin of error, so in fact they didn't gain. One could suggest that without any leadership bounce, the Libs are at bigger risk.

For the PC Hudak crew, it's worse. He's been putting out policy papers and making lots of public appearance and their numbers have not really bounced.

The pollster noted that who is the winner is Horwath whose leadership numbers far acceed the other two again, and also positioning the NDP on popular issues.


David Young
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So let me try to understand this....Wynne is from Toronto, and she takes the Agriculture portfolio?

Huh?

 


Michelle
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I just listened to her new Education Minister on CBC Radio Metro Morning (Toronto), claiming that Bill 115 was really Mike Harris's fault.

And she was all, yes, we imposed the contract and we're not opening the contract again. I'm focused on thinking of the children and getting extra-curriculars back. And we'll talk about how we can do collective bargaining in the future so that we don't have to take measures like Bill 115 again. 

"I know I robbed you at knife point, but I had to do it, and I'm not going to give back anything I took from you.  I'm not sorry, but as a gesture of good faith, I threw the knife away.  And I'd like to talk with you about how we can negotiate you giving me whatever I want in future without me having to go get another knife.  Now, after such a generous gesture on my part, can we talk about you babysitting my kids for free?  What, you don't want to?  Come on, don't take your anger at me out on my kids!"

"I know I beat you up, but I had to do it. Let's meet and discuss how you can obey me in future without me having to beat you up.  But the important thing now is that you start cooking supper again every night.  Do it for the kids."


toaster
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Yeah.  Sandals is not looking good.  Also, I don't want to sound pretentious or anything, but she does sound ill-formed and basically unintelligent.  This is simply my perception. Not sure why Wynne went with her.  I think she Wynne should have put Matthews in education.


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You realize, Michelle, that that rant is Hall of Fame material, right?

Beautiful!

 


janfromthebruce
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Michelle wrote:

I just listened to her new Education Minister on CBC Radio Metro Morning (Toronto), claiming that Bill 115 was really Mike Harris's fault.

And she was all, yes, we imposed the contract and we're not opening the contract again. I'm focused on thinking of the children and getting extra-curriculars back. And we'll talk about how we can do collective bargaining in the future so that we don't have to take measures like Bill 115 again. 

"I know I robbed you at knife point, but I had to do it, and I'm not going to give back anything I took from you.  I'm not sorry, but as a gesture of good faith, I threw the knife away.  And I'd like to talk with you about how we can negotiate you giving me whatever I want in future without me having to go get another knife.  Now, after such a generous gesture on my part, can we talk about you babysitting my kids for free?  What, you don't want to?  Come on, don't take your anger at me out on my kids!"

"I know I beat you up, but I had to do it. Let's meet and discuss how you can obey me in future without me having to beat you up.  But the important thing now is that you start cooking supper again every night.  Do it for the kids."

So Sandal's blamed Harris. That is so wrong on so many different levels starting with "taking responsibility" for your own govt actions.

Sadly when I hear anyone suggest the idea that you made me do it, I didn't want to but in the future if you don't want this to happen again, this is the way you need to act, just reminds me of spouse abuse - "you made me hit you".

And it's a great rant, and agree it needs to be placed in the hall of fame.

 


Wilf Day
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David Young wrote:

So let me try to understand this....Wynne is from Toronto, and she takes the Agriculture portfolio?

Huh?

And Jeff Leal from Peterborough takes "Rural Affairs." Peterborough riding is 68% urban core, 6% small urban centres, 21% other suburban, and only 5% really rural.

Same explanation in both cases. The Liberals were reduced to only one semi-rural riding, and even it is doubtful: Glengarry - Prescott - Russell, held by rookie MPP Grant Crack: 43% many small urban centres including Rockland, Hawkesbury, Embrun, Casselman, and Crack’s home town of Alexandria, 30% other Ottawa suburban areas, and only 27% really rural. But it's rural enough that Grant Crack is Parliamentary Assistant to Jeff Leal. After all, Crack used to manage a Husqvarna dealership, selling lawnmowers. Isn't that rural?

Who is the Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Agriculture and Premier? No one!??

Interesting cabinet. Ten new ministers. She must have set a quota. How else to explain why Margarett Best was dropped for Michael Coteau? Call it "churning the caucus." The ten "rookie" ministers include Mario Sergio, an MPP since 1995, who at age 72 has finally made cabinet. Like "Rookie" Jeff Leal who finally makes it into cabinet after 10 years as an MPP. But Wynne had only seven rookie MPPs to work with, slim pickings. Three in cabinet, four not. Three men: Michael Coteau, Grant Crack and Steven Del Duca. Four women:  Teresa Piruzza from Windsor, Tracy MacCharles from Pickering, Soo Wong, and Dipika Damerla.

However, one point for Wynne: a streamlined P & P: Wynne, Deputy Premier, House Leader, Finance Minister.


Boom Boom
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Meanwhile.... Sun Poll: Which of these Ontario political party leaders do you think would make the best premier?

11% Liberal Leader Kathleen Wynne

27% PC Leader Tim Hudak

61% NDP Leader Andrea Horwath


Michelle
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janfromthebruce wrote:

Sadly when I hear anyone suggest the idea that you made me do it, I didn't want to but in the future if you don't want this to happen again, this is the way you need to act, just reminds me of spouse abuse - "you made me hit you".

And it's a great rant, and agree it needs to be placed in the hall of fame.

Thanks.  You should have heard me yesterday morning when listening to the radio - this was restrained.  My language was a lot more colourful in person (just ask radiorahim), but I didn't want to post exactly what I was saying because I didn't want to trigger anyone who might have lived through spousal abuse. 

But yes, that's the first thing that comes to my mind every time I hear these jokers talking about Bill 115 and claiming that the teachers somehow made the Liberals take away their rights.  Yes I did it, you made me do it, I'm sorry enough to get rid of the weapon I used against you, but not sorry enough to make concrete amends.  And now I want to talk about how you can obey me in future without me having to go get another weapon, and now that I've offered you such a nice gesture, when are you going to start doing me favours again?

As a woman who has experienced and seen friends and family live through these kind of abusive (physical and/or emotional) relationship dynamics, hearing people excuse their unacceptable oppressive behaviour towards others with "you made me do it" immediately makes me think about abusive spouses.


Michelle
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Boom Boom wrote:

Meanwhile.... Sun Poll: Which of these Ontario political party leaders do you think would make the best premier?

11% Liberal Leader Kathleen Wynne

27% PC Leader Tim Hudak

61% NDP Leader Andrea Horwath

I love it when news outlets post the results of their online polls as if they mean anything at all.  Congrats, ONDP, you won the freeping award of the day.  That's basically all any online poll means, no matter who wins it.


theleftyinvestor
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http://madampremier.tumblr.com/

"It's not easy being a woman in politics - even when you're the Premier of a Canadian province.

Follow along as we share some upsetting examples of continued sexism in Canadian politics."

So far I only see Wynne, Clark and Redford on here. Not surprising as the site was posted by a BC Liberal. Nonetheless we can all deplore misogyny and express a desire for the political conversation to focus on actual substance.


Unionist
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What's the reason for posting that disgusting site?

 


Serviam6
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What a horrible website to post here.


theleftyinvestor
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I suppose the woman who put the site up was intending to shame people who are saying horrible things about women politicians. That in itself is okay, isn't it?

But I can see how it's not particularly tastefully presented. 


janfromthebruce
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Michelle wrote:

Boom Boom wrote:

Meanwhile.... Sun Poll: Which of these Ontario political party leaders do you think would make the best premier?

11% Liberal Leader Kathleen Wynne

27% PC Leader Tim Hudak

61% NDP Leader Andrea Horwath

I love it when news outlets post the results of their online polls as if they mean anything at all.  Congrats, ONDP, you won the freeping award of the day.  That's basically all any online poll means, no matter who wins it.

The best part was reading the comments by their posters as their heads are exploding in seeing Andrea out a head and by far. I guess some Conservative types just can't give Tim a boost in leader category.


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