Rob Ford: The Mirror...er...Cracked...

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Junkyard Dog

Awww, the Mussolini Twins lost their little weekly propaganda outlet, did they? So sad. And the Fords and 1010 "mutually determined" to bring an end to the show, is that right? I wonder how much truth there is to that statement. Did the Fords go voluntarily, or were they told in no uncertain terms by the station's management that they were no longer wanted? One can certainly hope for the latter - and I do!!! - though either way, at least the two shit stains no longer get to regularly spew their content-free self promotons on air. That's something.

Meanwhile, whoever thought it was a good idea to trot Sis and Ma Ford onto City TV to drum up sympathy for Little Orphan Fordie? Because it doesn't appear to be working. (A quick gloat: Heh, heh, heh!) They're completely in denial about their son/brother, and the main priority appears to be keeping the cretinous fuck-up in office in order to help pave the way for Dougie's future political ambitions. Here's a simply charming detail from the Toroto Life story about the Fords that might shed some light on their family dynamic:

John Tory discovered it in 2003, when he was running for mayor against David Miller. Advised that he ought to seek out the blessing of Ford’s father, who was then regarded as the reigning power broker in Etobicoke, Tory arranged a lunch date with the retired MPP. When he arrived, he found Doug Sr. waiting to size him up along with Diane and all three of their burly blond sons. After an hour of pleasant chatter, Diane Ford got to the point. “She said, ‘Well, we think you’re a pretty good fellow and we’re going to support you for mayor,’ ” Tory recalls. “ ‘You can serve for a couple of terms and then it’ll be Robbie’s turn.’ ”

The story itself:

http://www.torontolife.com/informer/features/2012/05/15/rob-ford-the-weirdest-mayoralty-ever/

And here's a hilarious observation from a poster at the Urban Toronto forum (well...it made me laugh):

Ford's mum visited his stupid decorated office on Halloween week, CTV did a short piece on it. As he was escorting his mother back through the hoards of reporters he asked them to move so his mother could get through.  What I thought was funny (and telling) was when she stopped in front of one of the reporters who dared to block her path, she looked him up and down and shot him a "don't you know who I am" look, then continued on to the elevator.  It spoke volumes.

So, her husband built up a successful buisness that made this family of hicks into millionares - a not inconsiderable achievement, to be fair - but he then became an uninspiring backbencher in one of the most thuggish Provincial governments in recent memory, and it's the latter, combined with their newly wealthy status, that appears to have given Mumsy the delusion of being some kind of bargain basement, white trash Lady MacBeth. Yikes.

I used to assume Ford's life story would be a natural for some big, dumb Hollywood comedy film with lotsa pratfalls and Chris Farley-esque slapstick, but now, I'm thinking this family of ghouls might be more accurately portrayed by someone like David Lynch or David Cronenberg.

jerrym

Even his brother is advising him to take some time off. Of course, Doug is thinking of the possibility of his own career going up in smoke (literally), claiming "Rob never told me". He also takes the time to slam all the politicos "trying to tap dance on his brother's grave", while saying what was being said in the media was "maybe deservedly so".

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 Councillor Doug Ford thinks his brother Mayor Rob Ford needs to go away for "a couple of weeks."

Ford went on AM640 Friday and acknowledged he believes the mayor needs some time away from the ongoing crack scandal. ...

"I've never seen someone get a flogging and a public beating and a public lynching like Rob has and maybe deservedly so," he said.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/11/08/go-away-for-a-couple-of-weeks-doug-...

terrytowel

Not a couple of weeks. Ford needs at least six months of intensive rehab to get clean.

jerrym

terrytowel wrote:

Not a couple of weeks. Ford needs at least six months of intensive rehab to get clean.

Rob has made Toronto an international joke. He and his social policies need to leave permanently. 

Junkyard Dog

There's no way RoFo is going to get healthy in a paltry "couple of weeks." Isn't this typical of the Fords? Deny, deny, deny; only admit to something when your back is to the wall, and you literally have no choice...and even then, downplay the seriousness of the transgression. Note how Dougie - and Matriarch Diane on CP24 - insist it's just the booze talking, as if that's the extent of His Oafship's current problems.

Oh, and since nobody else has brought it up here yet: Did Ford have an enemy viciously assaulted in prison becuase the man was an inconvenience to him?

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/11/07/judge-links-mayor-rob-ford-to-jailhouse-beating

Note that, once again, the above link is from former Ford ally the Sun. Which is pretty telling in itself.

 

Sineed

Great letter written by councillor Gord Perks (Parkdale-High Park) that the recipient posted on reddit:

Gord Perks wrote:

It is axiomatic that in a democracy the community elects its government. It must also be up to the community to remove its government and replace it with another – through elections. Anything that displaces the electorate's power to choose its government is anti-democratic. Further, our system wisely allows for a range of different points of view in government. If we allow elected officials to force each other out of office, we risk having elected officials who oppose the majority view being pushed out of office. History is replete with examples of how bad that is for a society.

Both before and during the previous election, it was clear that Rob Ford was racist, homophobic, and had problems with substance abuse and honesty. Nevertheless he won the election. We, all of us who care about justice and democracy, need to ask ourselves why this happened.

I have what I believe is part of the answer. It is increasingly common for people and institutions to succumb to anger, resentment, and an urge to punish government for real and perceived failings. Ironically, it was this very anger that helped elect Rob Ford Mayor. Recall the relentless attacks he made as a Councillor and mayoralty candidate on factually small but symbolically large uses of Councillor's office budgets, and his mantra about ending the so called "Gravy Train".

This style of politics draws on the slogans of people like Ronald Regan who said "Government is the problem" and Margaret Thatcher who said "There is no alternative". Nonsense! Government is the tool we build together to solve problems. Its precise function is to find alternatives that bring us to a better future. Theirs is a politics of resentment and anger. Reject it.

http://en.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/1q4c79/wrote_my_councillor_about...

Gord Perks is my councillor; I've had beers with him. It's especially ironic these days that some folks in our riding have said Gord doesn't have much of a hope of becoming mayor himself because he can be moody and arrogant, and has lost his temper in council.

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Junkyard Dog wrote:

Isn't this typical of the Fords? Deny, deny, deny; only admit to something when your back is to the wall, and you literally have no choice...and even then, downplay the seriousness of the transgression.

Well, he learned that behaviour from somewhere.

Sineed wrote:

It's especially ironic these days that some folks in our riding have said Gord doesn't have much of a hope of becoming mayor himself because he can be moody and arrogant, and has lost his temper in council.

I like Perks' letter too, a lot. And the hypocritical "rules" in the mainstream about the personal behaviour or personality of right-wing politicians versus left-wing politicians is very evident here. Most of what Ford gets a free pass on is in fact grounded in this mentality, as well as his fake "ordinary guy" persona. It's infuriating.

mersh

I have to admit I watched the Fifth Estate's "Rob Ford Story" last night. They managed to be slow, shallow and repetitive all at once. Still, CBC has published a statement from Mohamed Farah, which provides so much more context and critique than their own 60 minutes of sensationalism:

"My intention for coming out and telling my story is to shed light on the hypocrisy of a system that punishes the vulnerable for minor misdemeanors while the rich and powerful are protected by the same laws for crimes that are much more egregious."

 

 

mark_alfred

Interesting article by Hebert on the Conservative approach to Ford.  Compare their "Ford needs help" response to this.

mark_alfred

Ford's Elmer Fudd Nation supports his "Fiscal Responsiblity". 

 

Sineed

LOL, Mark. Though that billboard has been taken down already after an avalanche of ridicule on social media.

mark_alfred wrote:

Interesting article by Hebert on the Conservative approach to Ford.  Compare their "Ford needs help" response to this.

In the context of this entire scandal, the article on Corrections Canada's measures to tackle drug use is especially infuriating. It focuses ENTIRELY on inmates, randomly drug testing them, punishing them for use, and so forth. There's nothing about the people who get the drugs into prisons, the jail guards, lawyers and members of organized crime (AKA drinking buddies of Rob Ford) who profit so enormously from activities that increase the levels of crime, violence and human suffering in our cities. The people I see driving around Parkdale in those black Cadillac Escalades with the dark-tinted windows.

Drug users are the victims here, of both their substance abuse and the criminal justice system. And yes, Robert Bruce Ford is also suffering greatly from substance abuse problems and I am not without compassion. But typical drug users are my patients, living in bedbug-infested rooming houses or TCHC apartments, in and out of jail. It makes me want to vomit. I mean, where is RoFo more likely to dry out (if he does)? In the posh surroundings of private spa-like rehab like the Betty Ford Clinic, or the Don Jail?

Though if he ends up in the Don, at least he'll get to see some of his friends.

Unionist

mark_alfred wrote:

Ford's Elmer Fudd Nation supports his "Fiscal Responsiblity". 

 

I don't get it. The gospel according to John was written in Newfoundland & Labrador Time? Do we need to revisit a lot of assumptions now?

 

terrytowel

Andrew Coyne said something interesting on the At Issue panel. What disturbs him more than the crack video, is Ford rabid supporters.

That they are not looking at the facts clearly, and no matter what Ford does they will support him to the very end. Which doesn't bode well for democracy.

So it doesn't matter how many videos and facts come out, Ford nation is solidly behind the mayor no matter what.

I've been listening to talk radio lately, and the good thing is that former supporters of Ford who host radio shows are slamming him. Saying if we critize some politicians for bad behavoir, we need to hold Ford to the same standard.

And many of these radio hosts are pointing out this fact when Ford Nation calls into these shows, saying it a conspiracy, that it is a frame-job, that it is a left-wing smear, etc,

It is good that all the right-wing media is holding Ford to account. In the face of opposition of Ford nation.

cco

Maybe Kathy Ford's Klan contacts helped get that billboard up. The money from the family, the lack of spelling ability from the men in the hoods.

shartal@rogers.com

Klan?

cco

Yep.

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Her friends included Gary MacFarlane, a founding member of the short-lived Canadian chapter of the Ku Klux Klan, as well as the late Wolfgang Droege, perhaps the most notorious white supremacist in Canadian history, a former Klansman told The Globe in an interview. Two other former associates of Ms. Ford confirmed her association with known white supremacists...The former Klansman, who agreed to answer questions by e-mail on condition of anonymity, confirmed that Kathy Ford was close to the movement, but he said he couldn’t recall meeting any of the Ford brothers. He described hanging out in the Fords’ basement and being snubbed by Doug Sr. when Ms. Ford invited him to a party on the family boat.

mark_alfred

Some funny comments here:  80s Doug Ford.

ETA:  person running this parody decided to call it quits.

mark_alfred

Seems Ford inspired some great art, IE, Going off the Rails on a Gravy Train:

 

 

 

mark_alfred

A pull no punches article here.

Unionist

mark_alfred wrote:

A pull no punches article here.

What a disgusting article - a rant worthy of Rob Ford himself - calling him obese, obviously agreeing with his right-wing politics, but finding him oh so embarrassing. Sample excerpt:

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When he was first elected in 2010, Ford’s blunt-talking suburban conservative pushback against latte liberal impotence seemed refreshing, but by now it is clear that the plus-sized politico is wrestling with outsized demons in public.

Mark, I'm uncertain why you would post this article, and what sort of conclusion you would want progressive folks to draw from it. It's simply obscene.

As a contrast, rabble has carried a number of thoughtful and useful pieces in recent days. One of the best:

[url=http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/jesse/2013/11/austerity-and-politics-for... and the Politics of the Ford Scandal[/url]

 

mark_alfred

Agreed, it's a trashy article.  I think the Telegraph is either a UK or US publication.  It's interesting how late night comedians in the US are amazed that Canadians are so tentative about Ford, pointing out that his popularity has remained steady here thoughout.  The article served to me as an example of that (IE, a quick rather draconian "pull no punches" view that some internationally are taking).  I myself am torn.  Sometimes I feel he should be tossed by all means necessary, and other times I feel that he has a mandate from the electorate, and unless he's tossed in prison and thus incapable of doing his job, then he should finish his term (which is likely what will happen, barring no further revelations leading to arrest).  The possible involvement in threats of violence (to retrieve the video) that were hinted at in the fifth estate show has me leaning toward former.

NDPP

The Rob Ford Story (and vid)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/rob-ford-crack-video-hunt-drew-thr...

"Mohamed Farah, who tried to broker sale of video to media, speaks with CBC's the fifth estate.."

mafiosi mayor

see also excellent statement of Mohamed Farah posted upthread by mersh

http://rabble.ca/comment/1420009#comment-1420009

Sineed

I watched the 5th Estate last night. As a comprehensive overview of the whole Ford saga, it didn't tell me much I didn't already know. But what it really contributes is dialogue around privilege and the violence against young black men in Toronto because of the drug trade.

The crack video broker, Mohamed Farah, was arrested along with his mum because the police found a gun in the apartment after an hour of searching. He is a quiet-spoken and polite young man with no criminal record and an exemplary reputation in the community (stands to reason that's why the owner of the crack video approached Mr. Farah to talk to Gawker and The Star on his behalf). He and his mum were released without charges laid, after a brief stint in police custody subsequent to the ransacking of their apartment. The explanation for this treatment is that his brother is a drug dealer and a known gangster with a criminal record.

And then there's Rob Ford, who is on video surveillance receiving packages at gas stations from known drug dealer Sandro Lisi. And Sandro Lisi's phone records reveal dozens of calls to and from hizzoner. Similar to Mr. Farah, the mayor has a brother with a criminal record.

But whose house gets ransacked?

 

mark_alfred

jerrym wrote:

CBC's Sunday Edition's podcast has an excellent analysis of the Ford family and its impact on the Rob Ford mayoralty. Early in the report the engraving on Rob Ford's father is given: "Many are called, but few are chosen", suggest a messianic family theme based on conservative values that is underlain by rumours of violence. The podcast can be found at: 

http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/podcasts/sundayedition_20131109_99882.mp3

Thanks for the link.  I look forward to hearing it.

Sineed wrote:
And then there's Rob Ford, who is on video surveillance receiving packages at gas stations from known drug dealer Sandro Lisi. And Sandro Lisi's phone records reveal dozens of calls to and from hizzoner. Similar to Mr. Farah, the mayor has a brother with a criminal record.

But whose house gets ransacked?

Good point.

janfromthebruce

it's white privelege and at the same time racial discrimination. It's always a system of power and privelege which is structural and this is an overt example of how the system works.

So we see Ford and suggest that he should go to rehab (and not jail) and get help. People of colour get their homes ransacked and get jail.

Sineed

Janfromthebruce wrote:

So we see Ford and suggest that he should go to rehab (and not jail) and get help. People of colour get their homes ransacked and get jail.

It's refreshing to see this message in the mainstream media, where many more eyes will see it than all the progressive blogs combined. 

felixr

Rob Ford, role model to 100,000s of Toronto school children

felixr

Rob Ford should be in jail not the mayor's office, for his whole involvement with the Sandro Lisi affair. The right's silence on this clear cut case of crime and corruption is deafening. If this were a non-Conservative politician they would have lit their hair on fire.

arielc

Sineed wrote:

I watched the 5th Estate last night. As a comprehensive overview of the whole Ford saga, it didn't tell me much I didn't already know. But what it really contributes is dialogue around privilege and the violence against young black men in Toronto because of the drug trade.

The crack video broker, Mohamed Farah, was arrested along with his mum because the police found a gun in the apartment after an hour of searching. He is a quiet-spoken and polite young man with no criminal record and an exemplary reputation in the community (stands to reason that's why the owner of the crack video approached Mr. Farah to talk to Gawker and The Star on his behalf). He and his mum were released without charges laid, after a brief stint in police custody subsequent to the ransacking of their apartment. The explanation for this treatment is that his brother is a drug dealer and a known gangster with a criminal record.

And then there's Rob Ford, who is on video surveillance receiving packages at gas stations from known drug dealer Sandro Lisi. And Sandro Lisi's phone records reveal dozens of calls to and from hizzoner. Similar to Mr. Farah, the mayor has a brother with a criminal record.

But whose house gets ransacked?

 

Lisi is charged with extortion. Rob Ford called Lisi just after news of the crack video surfaced, and just before Lisi began threatening people for the video, and Ford made frequent calls to Lisi in the following days.

Is there anybody who doesn't know that Ford is implicated in the extortion? I guess Ford's safe as long as Lisi covers for him and he doesn't talk to police.

I doubt he'd be as safe if he wasn't the rich white mayor.

jerrym

CBC's Sunday Edition's podcast has an excellent analysis of the Ford family and its impact on the Rob Ford mayoralty. Early in the report the engraving on Rob Ford's father's gravesite is given: "Many are called, but few are chosen", suggest a messianic family theme based on conservative values that is underlain by rumours of violence. The podcast can be found at: 

http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/podcasts/sundayedition_20131109_99882.mp3

 

mark_alfred

First Bill Blair and now Don Cherry say they're "disappointed" in Ford.  I wonder if Doug is going to go after Cherry now.

6079_Smith_W

Good interview with Mary Walsh on The Current this morning. She cut right through the whole notion of giving him a pass because of addiction.

Aristotleded24

mark_alfred wrote:
First Bill Blair and now Don Cherry say they're "disappointed" in Ford.  I wonder if Doug is going to go after Cherry now.

Cherry's claim of disappointment would be credible if he had not spoken the way he did at Ford's swearing in.

Sineed

Aristotleded24 wrote:

Cherry's claim of disappointment would be credible if he had not spoken the way he did at Ford's swearing in.

Did you mean where he said, "Put that in your pipe and smoke it, you left-wing kooks!"

Sineed

6079_Smith_W wrote:

Good interview with Mary Walsh on The Current this morning. She cut right through the whole notion of giving him a pass because of addiction.

I also heard that. And it was an interesting discussion she was having with that addictions activist, who took issue with all the humour, feeling it minimized human suffering. Mary disagreed. I forget her exact words, but from her perspective as a comedian and an alcoholic in recovery for 20 years, she considers the human condition to be fair game, and we live in conservative times when most of us don't come anywhere near to crossing "the line."

It would be worthy of a whole other panel, hopefully one that includes Mary Walsh, that discusses when the "line" has been crossed. Like Mary quipped, "Is anybody a phD in 'the line?'"

Sineed

Aristotleded24 wrote:

More generally his brash attitude towards "left-wing kooks!" which that specific remark highlights.

Getting Don Cherry to swear him in was raising the middle digit to most of us who live downtown, regardless of what Cherry said.

I can't find my "Bike-riding pinko" button. Have any of you seen it??

Aristotleded24

Sineed wrote:

Aristotleded24 wrote:

Cherry's claim of disappointment would be credible if he had not spoken the way he did at Ford's swearing in.

Did you mean where he said, "Put that in your pipe and smoke it, you left-wing kooks!"

More generally his brash attitude towards "left-wing kooks!" which that specific remark highlights. Cherry was all to willing to be a bully when Ford was sworn in and at the height of his popularity, but now that it's bitten Ford in the backside, Cherry's all, "oh no, how terrible is Ford's behaviour."

terrytowel

Today at Old City Hall Ford repeated his stance and said he is NOT going anywhere.

6079_Smith_W

She's right, and not just on the issue of harsh comedy.

Ford doesn't deserve a pass just because he might be suffering from an addiction. There was yet another interview (Saturday, I think it was) with someone saying if Ford quit then he wouldn't have the chance to prove he can beat it and come back - like the mayorship is his own personal plaything, and the proper running of the city means nothing at all.

If the shame of his own actions isn't going to shake him into doing SOMETHING then I'd say it's fair game. He's a public figure after all.

Sineed

Addiction is no excuse for abusive behaviour, and the mayor has abused his position.

I am curious about the power behind the throne. One thing that has struck my husband and I is that Ford doesn't actually like the work of being a politician very much. We all know from the FOI requests for his schedule that his work ethic is pathetic. As a counsellor he had a similar reputation for showing up at meetings and making an embarrassing spectacle of himself before leaving to coach his football team, hit a bar, whatever. 

His behaviour suggests that he doesn't really like the process of governing very much. So why does he do it? And why stick it out when he is so obviously extremely stressed?

He'd rather coach football. His mum (or whoever it is) should let him do that, if they really care about him.

jerrym

A large part of Rob Ford's success in building Ford Nation comes from his approach to politics. He sees his job as solving individual's problems in the same way that he did when working for his father's firm. The role he chose to take within the firm was to meet with customer's on a one-to-one basis in order to deal with their complaints . This was what he does at the political level, thereby building a reputation of helping the little guy by showing up personally to deal with a problem. The problem with this approach is there is no focus on broad-scale issues or long-term problems. However, the stories generated by his personal approach has enabled him to gain a significant level of support even amongst those of lower incomes while cutting taxes and programs that appeal to much of the middle and upper class because whatever money is spent on dealing with a personal problem is peanuts compared to dealing with it as a systemic problem. This is why conservatives like to offer solutions to appeal to very limited and targeted groups, such as Harper has done in offering tax credits for fitness and after-school programs. 

Much of this kind of appeal is discussed in the podcast below: 

http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/podcasts/sundayedition_20131109_99882.mp3

 

mark_alfred

It will be interesting to see what goes on with Wong's upcoming motion.

cco

Sic transit amiticia mundi.

Junkyard Dog

His behaviour suggests that he doesn't really like the process of governing very much. So why does he do it? And why stick it out when he is so obviously extremely stressed?

My guess: Pure egomania. He obviously enjoys being the center of attention, and even moreso having his ass kissed. Like other 'celebrity' types who've found themselves actually holding public office - Sonny Bono, Ronald Reagan, and (once again) George W. Bush - Ford evidently quite likes all the trappings that comes with said office. The boring stuff like work, consensus building and governing? Not so much.

So, Assholes 1 and 2 have been hawking Rofo bobble-head dolls at City Hall today, and apparently they're going to be selling t-shirts tomorrow, the same day as the (hopefully) huge anti-Ford demonstration. All "for charity," of course. (Campaigning has nothing to do with it!) Um, don't they have, oh, work that theoretically they're supposed to be doing?

Despite everything, the Fords truly are going to attempt to brazen it all out. Wow.

mark_alfred

I don't think he's stressed at all.  He's a millionaire and doesn't need the job.  It's a game to him.

Paladin1

I'm disgusted at the people who think the whole situation is funny and see Ford as some kind of celebrity and treat the whole situation like a reality TV show.

Sineed

Paladin1 wrote:

I'm disgusted at the people who think the whole situation is funny and see Ford as some kind of celebrity and treat the whole situation like a reality TV show.

I suggest you have a listen to the panel discussion on the Current on this very topic. One of the panelists, the founder of Faces and Voices of Recovery Canada, feels the same as you. Then there's Mary Walsh, who takes a dissenting position:

http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/episode/2013/11/11/how-should-the-media-cov...

For myself, I rather like all the attention this has brought to substance abuse issues. There's all the vulgar jokes, but running parallel is an intelligent dialogue around addictions that I've rarely seen in the public sphere.

 

Unionist

Sineed wrote:

For myself, I rather like all the attention this has brought to substance abuse issues. There's all the vulgar jokes, but running parallel is an intelligent dialogue around addictions that I've rarely seen in the public sphere.

Exactly what I've been thinking! Long ago at work ("blue-collar" industrial), it took us years to get both the employer and many workers to change their discourse and recognize impairment at work as being possibly the sign of addiction, and addiction as a disability needing accommodation and treatment, not punishment. It's a lesson that needs to be constantly re-learned. The fuss around Ford showed me how far we've come.

 

mark_alfred

Metro Morning had both Minnan-Wong and Perks on as guests, discussing today's upcoming council meeting.  Minnan-Wong feels it's important to make a statement, even if it's symbolic only, whereas Perks feels that it's important not to undermine the electorate, and instead ensure that council does what it can while being conscious of the confines of rule and law (IE, he opposes Minnan-Wong's motion).  I feel Perks is over-thinking it.  Why not do both?  Why not both make a statement, and make a referral to the Integrity Commissioner for a determination of options available to best get on with running the city in the circumstances? 

cco

This council meeting is just amazing. Re: the ACC incident, Ford: "I promised it would never happen again, and it has never happened again...at the Air Canada Centre."

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