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If you could witness three historical events throughout history what events would you observe?

My three choices at this time would be

1. The Battle of Hastings, 14 Oct 1066
2. Upper Canada Rebellion, 1838
3. The Vikings establishing a colony at L'Anse aux Meadows, Newfoundland, ca. 1000

Cueball Cueball's picture

Military?

1) The Mongol sack of Transoxania 1221
2) The Battle of Austerlitz 1805
3) The sinking of the Bismark 1941 (from the perspective of the Germans)

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Webgear

It can be any event, political, cultural or religious.

I went with some events that I am currently interested in.

I was thinking of joining a living history group that re-enact with British/Northern European history in the Viking/Norman/Saxon era.

I had family members that either supported or was apart of the rebellion in York.

Cueball Cueball's picture

Personally I think it would be great to do recreations of Mongol battle tactics, starting with Queens Park.

Just riding up University on all those horses would be a riot. First off though you have to drive the civil servants out of city hall and then in front of the cavalry, to spread mass fear and confusion, as you head up to the Parliment buildings.

They definitely turned fear into a science. Even today the name is tinged with the hint of dread. Their words enter into the Egnlish language, among other things, as "horde" which is derived from the Mongol word for clan which is "orde" but synonymous with mass fear and anarchy.

Interestingly the Mongols were anything but disorganized rabble, but they encouraged that view of themselves.

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Webgear

I had an excellent book on the rise and fall of the Mongol empire however I can not find the title at this time. It is a recent publication, only a few years old, the author covered everything from the tactics to the politics of the empire.

It would be interesting riding around Toronto acting as Mongol Keshik causing fear and chaos., perhaps we could create our own Empire in a short amount of time.

Cueball Cueball's picture

When I was a lot youger we did a recreation of Bastille Day at Queens Park but were arrested by the local constabulary.

oldgoat

I was thinking Sodom and Gomorrah; the glory years.

Actually, as a history major I can probably do better. I'll ponder on it.

Cueball Cueball's picture

How about the three histocial events you would least like to witness.

For instance, my top pick would be the last meeting of the March 17th "troops out" co-ordinating committee meeting, which by the way I did not attend.

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Webgear

I think it would be an excellent meeting to attend, however I would try not to participate unless ask to.

I attend a NOWAR meeting once in Ottawa a few years ago, it was exciting event to witness. The conversations were appealing and the people at the meeting believed in what they were doing.

I have been to a few anti-war protests and these events are always been enjoyable and for the most part again the people at the protest believed in what they were doing.

bohajal

I would like to have been "embedded" with Hannibal's operation "Trans-Alps.

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Merowe

interesting...I need to think about it...Vesuvius or Krakatoa maybe? for a start, an aperitif to slake my bloodthirsty side. But probably more enobling motifs would be appropriate.

Drinkmore

1) Woodstock
2) The invention of espresso
3) The rise of Impressionism

Cueball Cueball's picture

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Originally posted by bohajal:
[b]I would like to have been "embedded" with Hannibal's operation "Trans-Alps.

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Oohhh thats a good one. I have always tried to imagine what it was lkie trying to get those elephants on the boats from Tangiers to Andulasia.

oldgoat

An Early Beatles concert at The Cavern Club

Dick Nixon's Farewell Cabinet meeting.

What the hell, we'll do that last one twice.

remind remind's picture

1. Peace of Westphalia, 1648

2. Greenspond NFLD 1653

3. Women acknowledged to be humans, October 18 1929

West Coast Greeny

Events eh... gotta edit this then.

1) The day Martin Luther King made his speech "I have a dream". (Not just the speech itself, I mean his whole thought process). I'd like to spend any day with him.
2) The day Edison and Ford decided to come together to build the electric car or the day that Edison's labratory burned down.
2B) The day Jesus walked on water (hey, you only get so many chances to see such a thing)
3) Louis Riel rebellion
And if there had to be a military event...
3) Battle of Thermophyle

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West Coast Greeny

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Originally posted by oldgoat:
[b]Dick Nixon's Farewell Cabinet meeting. What the hell, we'll do that last one twice.[/b]

lol [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img] Nixon's exploits would be fun to visit from a pure comidic standpoint.

Catchfire Catchfire's picture

1. The premier of [i]King Lear[/i] with Richard Burbage playing the title role. Probably around 1605. What is the cause of thunder?

2. Whenever the Beatles first performed "Penny Lane." I would accept the first performance of "God Only Knows" by the Beach Boys if I don't get tickets in time for the Fab Four. It's in my ears and in my eyes.

3. When Frank Miller won the battle of Thermopolaye.

Jingles

1. A railway overpass in Dallas, November 1963
2. Battle of Greasy Grass
3. Head-Smashed-In buffalo jump pre-contact.

Sven Sven's picture

I'll interpret "event" broadly:

I would love to observe the "event" of Christ's life. Yeah, the whole thing.

remind remind's picture

quote:


Originally posted by Sven:
[b]I'll interpret "event" broadly:

I would love to observe the "event" of Christ's life. Yeah, the whole thing.[/b]


Have they proven Jesus was actual yet?

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

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Originally posted by Cueball:
[b]When I was a lot youger we did a recreation of Bastille Day at Queens Park but were arrested by the local constabulary.[/b]

Must mean you got it right, then.

My three events:

1)The moment where Krishna freeze-frames the action at Kurukshetra so he can tell the whole Bhagavad-Gita to Arjuna.

2)The Easter Rising of 1916. Especially if I can spend as much time as possible with James Connolly during the siege.

3)The day the Beatles visited Elvis at his place in L.A. AND JAMMED WITH HIM. And unlike everybody else who saw it, I'd remember to sneak in a tape recorder.

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Southlander

If we're allowed input I'd have to say when the pilgrams arrived in New york, the spanish in the south, and the British in Aftica. I'd tell the locals they're not Gods and to slaughter the lot of them, quick smart.

If we're allowed to change our lives, I'd have taken that job at the Uni instead of running after that Man, and I'd have stood up for myself earlier. I would have worked harder at Uni and done honours. Also I'd like to have my children again. and yes, they all are mutually exclusive!

If it's just to watch I'd pick three famous discoveries. Maybe Mendel, Ford, and when Aristotle and Plato were studying together. Also I'd like a good look around these times, so I would get that as well.

Southlander

Battle for troy, little big horn, Trafalger, D- day, Easter uprising in Ireland. martin Luther, Titanic. 9/11. These are from the boys, typical guy stuff, totally diffeent to a woman [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img]

Fidel

1. a regular day in Jurassic period anywhere, since there are no geopolitical boundaries, and from a safe vantage point

2. completion of Sphynx day in Egypt

3. Byward Market for a beer and hot sausage on a bun, July 1, 9001

Michelle

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Originally posted by Cueball:
[b]How about the three histocial events you would least like to witness.

For instance, my top pick would be the last meeting of the March 17th "troops out" co-ordinating committee meeting, which by the way I did not attend.[/b]


Ha! [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img] [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img] Or any coordinating meeting of any kind, would be my pick!

N.Beltov N.Beltov's picture

1. The Storming of the Bastille in 1789 in Paris;
2. The day that Karl Marx and Fred Engels met (in the offices of the [i]Rhenish Gazette[/i]) and talk politics over a few cold ones with the lads;
3. "10 Days that Shook the World", i.e., the events of the Russian Revolution ... especially the moment when the crowd barges into the [Kerensky] Cabinet meeting and informs the government ... that [i]they are under arrest.[/i] Just imagine how PM Harper would behave if he was arrested by the citizenry.

Supplemental: The day my parents met, my own birth and my own death would be interesting [to me] as well.

marzo

1. The earliest human settlement of North America from the Bering Strait around 12,000 years ago.
2. First contact between Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals around 40,000 years ago.
3. If there ever really were extra-terrestrial ships and alien beings on Earth, I'd like to see them. Did something really happen at Roswell, New Mexico in July 1947? Did ET / UFO events take place at other places and times?

oldgoat

The Titanic steaming into NY Harbour.

Enver Hoxha's Nobel Peace Prize presentation.

G.W. Bush's discharge ceremony after a full and honorable service in the National Guard.

josh

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1. A railway overpass in Dallas, November 1963


That would be mine. Except I'd be on the grassy knoll or the sixth floor of the book depository.

oldgoat

Hmmmm...., How do we know you weren't.

Cueball Cueball's picture

Yes. Precisely, how is it that he knows these locations would be the most "interesting."

oldgoat

Well let's see, he was born in 1957. Has anyone ever checked his little Lone Ranger Jammies for powder residue??

Michelle

I was going to say earlier today that I'd like to have had a bullets' eye view of the JFK assassination, but then I realized that I'd be going too fast to see anything, and then once I stopped, I'd be seeing some pretty gross stuff.

oldgoat

Yeah with your luck your last view would be Gov. Connolly's armpit.

Seriously though, I'd like to go back and hang out in the court of Suleiman the Magnificent.

Boom Boom Boom Boom's picture

Because I'm a church-going person, I guess I'd like to have been present during some of the biblical events, and recorded them with my video camera (if we can go back in time, can we take a camera or tape recorder with us?). Failing that, I would like to meet Michelangelo, Da Vinci, and Beethoven, all during their moments of greatest triumphs.

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Left Turn Left Turn's picture

1. Woodstock '69.
2. Monterey Pop Festival, June 1967.
3. Rally at the BC legislature, Solidarity Movement, 1983.

eau

A) The Resurrection of Jesus Christ

B) Hiroshima

C) The Building of The Sphinx in Egypt.

mayakovsky

Dang just three. 1) Mayakovsky reading at the Stray Dog Cafe, 2) Sawchuk and Bower goaltending together, 3) when Shostakovich premiered his Leningrad Symphony

Southlander

Why do people want to go and see thousands dying? Is it a guy thing?

oldgoat

A couple of cultural events worth the effort and expense of developing time travel:

A Beethoven piano concerto with him as the soloist. He was known for going off on huge long totally extemporized cadenzas. They weren't done the same way twice and were never written down. They were lost forever to the universe after he played them.

The premiere of Beethoven's ninth symphony. By that time he was 100% deaf and couldn't conduct, but he sat down in with the orchestra where he could feel vibrations and conducted along with the score while the real conductor was on the podium. The Viennese audience of the day of course by then fully appreciated the musical importance and historical gravity of what they were attending.

According to the diary of one of the musicians when it was over, he was still a few bars behind, and she had to tap him on the shoulder to turn around. The hall had erupted in thunderous applause and shouting, and everyone was all teary 'n stuff.

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bohajal

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Originally posted by Southlander:

Why do people want to go and see thousands dying? Is it a guy thing?


Not to see thousands dying, but to bear witnesses to this long tradition of people killing people, which is still honoured by the standard bearers of "civility".

At the risk of appearing defensive [img]smile.gif" border="0[/img] , I wanted to watch How did Hannibal and his war elephants cross the Straight of Gibraltar and how did they cross the Alps. To this day still a mystery.

From Stanford University:

[url=http://events.stanford.edu/events/107/10720/]http://events.stanford.edu/...

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For over 2,000 years, nobody has been able to identify with certainty the route that Hannibal used to cross the Alps in 218 BCE with 25,000 men and 37 elephants to the astonishment of the Romans. Now a Stanford team, under the direction of Alpine Archaeologist Patrick Hunt, may be closing in on a solution to one of history's great puzzles.

Hunt's team made five major expeditions from 1995 to 2004, during which they hiked over twentyfive passes, eliminating candidates for Hannibal's crossing while cementing the probability of a few others. In the summer of 2006 the team used the accounts of Polybius, Livy and Appian as source texts; and hiked the five most likely passes, attempting to match relict topography with eyewitness and reconstructed narratives. Stanford's scientific surveys also looked for human modifications such as an army might have made in these passes and which may still survive in some form.

Join Patrick Hunt for a lavishly illustrated slide lecture on his experience as a detective, looking for 2,000 year old elephants at 10,000 feet.

.......

Date and Time:
Thursday, April 5, 2007. 7:00 PM.
Approximate duration of 2.5 hour(s).

Location:
Cubberley Auditorium (School of Education)


Boom Boom Boom Boom's picture

quote:


Originally posted by oldgoat:
According to the diary of one of the musicians when it was over, he was still a few bars behind, and she had to tap him on the shoulder to turn around. The hall had erupted in thunderous applause and shouting, and everyone was all teary 'n stuff.

I forget the name, but there was a great movie version of the life of Beethoven, and this precise moment you mentioned above was the highlight for me. Thanks for reminding me. I'll have to search out the film.

Jacob Two-Two

"Immortal Beloved" is the movie you mean.

I'd like to see Jesus get nailed to the cross.

Boudica's army burning Londinium to the ground.

and yes, the pass of Thermopyle.

Yeah, it's a guy thing...

mayakovsky

Southlander, a good question and one that I thought about when I wrote about Shostakovich. I don't have a satisfactory answer, witnessing the presentation of one piece of music connecting with the emotions of so many would be powerful. But I know that it connects and was written because of so much horror and pain. It is a question that I ponder in relation to a lot of art I find powerful like Picasso's Guernica, which exists because he wanted to bear witness to the bombing of the Guernica. At the same time I am awed by the strength of Shostakovich to persevere and create.

Coyote

1. I would like to see Socrates pleading his case - or rather, refusing to do so - before the great and good of Athens.

2. I would like to watch Bobby Orr fly through the air.

3. I would like to attend the party where my dad first hit on my mom by making an ass of himself pretending his shoe was a phone because she wouldn't decide whether or not to go out with him until he called her and asked her out on a date. What a loser. Worked though. [img]tongue.gif" border="0[/img]

Khimia

1) The Fall of Berlin
2) London during the Plague
3) The Bay City Rollers 1st Canadian concert

Fidel

Hey I know,
1. Monterey Pop Festival
2 Pink Floyd San Tropez 1970
3. Canada v Russia game#8 in Moscow 1972

Stargazer

World changing events I'd like to have seen or been a part of:

1. The first ever desegregation of schools in the US of A
2. Martin Luther King's "I Have a dream" speech
3. The biggest Civil Rights march in history

(And if I really could, I'd have loved to be there alongside Rosa Parks)

Unionist

1. Putting my wallet down somewhere.
2. Leaving my car keys somewhere.
3. I can't remember what the third one was.

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