Saskatchewan New Democrats Win Two By-Elections

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janfromthebruce
Saskatchewan New Democrats Win Two By-Elections

The Saskatchewan New Democrats have won two provincial by-elections. One of the wins went to Dwain Lingenfelter, newly elected Leader of the Saskatchewan NDP. He took Regina Douglas Park Constituency. The New Democrats also won a seat in Saskatoon Riversdale, where first time candidate, Danielle Chartier will take her place in the Legislative Assembly as an MLA.

h/t Buckdog

RIP Sask. Liberal Party

Unionist

For those like me who don't know ... I assume these were both NDP seats going in? None of the links bother to say, and I'm too lazy to check further right now.

 

 

remind remind's picture

Yep, they were NDP seats one was Calvert's.

Unionist

Merci, remind!

SRB

I'm very glad we won, but I wasn't entirely thrilled with the vote margins, especially in Regina.  Today the Sask party are crowing about how their percent of the vote share increased in traditionally NDP strongholds.  It makes me wonder if we have strongholds here right now.

Oh well, I'm pleased that Danielle Chartier will be taking a seat in the Legislature.  And the Liberal Party in Saskatchewan now seems defunct.

 

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

SRB wrote:

Oh well, I'm pleased that Danielle Chartier will be taking a seat in the Legislature.  And the Liberal Party in Saskatchewan now seems defunct.

 

I presume you mean the party using the Liberal name is defunct but the Sask NDP is alive and very much a "liberal" party. 

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SRB

kropotkin1951 wrote:

I presume you mean the party using the Liberal name is defunct but the Sask NDP is alive and very much a "liberal" party. 

 

Considering they were formed from a merger of Conservatives and Liberals, yes, the Sask Party is I suppose a "Liberal" party.  They also seem a lot like the Harper conservatives: right-wing, anti-labour, poor money managers etc.  But I suppose those terms could describe many Liberals as well.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

No I said the NDP is a liberal party. The Sask. party is a bunch of neo-con reformers therefore not liberal.  What is missing in Sask. is a social democratic alternative to the con/lib duo. Maybe the NDP should be called the Nuclear Disaster Party. 

remind remind's picture

kropotkin, I don't know, I was reading on a Liberal blog this morning, and said blogger was noting that her, formerly sarcastic, predictions of a Conservative Liberal merger was now realizable, given Ignatieff's neo-con ideology.

We saw that happen here in BC, with the BC Liberals and Christie Clark et al, too.

Having said that, most of the progressive left moved away from Sask, didn't they? ;)

kevsin@sasktel.net

             Prov. politics in Sask. is a different beast nowadays and some of Lingenfelter's positions on enviromental and occupation in Afghanistan rather neo-liberal.But Ryan Meili wasn't ready to lead Prov. NDP because he didn't reach out to labour movement and other factions of the Party.I don't mind co-operatives but they are some times at odds with Unions.In fact I live in co-operative housing but in the past talked with some workers involved and didn't have a clue what Unions are fighting for in regards to Grievance procedure,collective bargaining rights,wages and benefits (pensions etc.).

           Whether Lingenfelter can hold the line in Sask. politics remains to be seen.But Link has experience and credibility without requiring much " off the ground maintenance ",that said he needs to reach out and re-dedicate himself to the NDP again.He's an opportunist and lacking in social justice principles and there's room for more democratic socialist values.We'll be working on him to adopt more progressive view of the world and sustainable development not " rape,pillage and plunder".

           Still we have won our seats back and the political slide has stopped in respect to the Prov. NDP.On the Federal level that's another matter with the right-wing backlash firmly in place.Obviously we have supporters who vote for NDP provincially but not Federally and also support the so called  "war of error " ( which has cost at least 30 billion).So,we have quite an interesting political economy and it isn't politically correct by any means.Actually, rather confusing but that's politics in Sask..

           But we have socialist caucus in Sask. now so we are keeping a close eye on the political scene.

Chester Drawers

Winning in safe long term ridings with reduced popular vote is not a reversal of political fortunes.  What would signal a change in direction would be either winning in a typical swing riding with a substantive popular vote or nearly winning in a Sask Party stronghold.  That would clearly show a reversal of fortunes.  The Sask Party have learned that the support is there, just have to get the vote out.  The next Provincial election will be a very interesting one, and it will be nasty from both sides.

janfromthebruce

SRB wrote:

I'm very glad we won, but I wasn't entirely thrilled with the vote margins, especially in Regina.  Today the Sask party are crowing about how their percent of the vote share increased in traditionally NDP strongholds.  It makes me wonder if we have strongholds here right now.

Oh well, I'm pleased that Danielle Chartier will be taking a seat in the Legislature.  And the Liberal Party in Saskatchewan now seems defunct.

 

the reason the vote margin increased is the liberal prov party did not run a candidate in the race. The Sask party candidate had also been a previous liberal candidate, and that the prov liberal party was telling liberals to vote sask party. So Link was running against both the libs and cons who are mascarading as Sask party.

Providing the political context and race details always helps.

jrootham

Does this imply that Sask politics is going to be more like BC?  NDP vs anybody but NDP?

And does that mean that the results will be the same as BC?  No NDP governments except when the right splits?

PS

Best Saskatchewan reference:  A T shirt:

On the front

Saskatchewan Hard to spell.

On the back

(map) Easy to draw.

 

Stockholm

"Does this imply that Sask politics is going to be more like BC? NDP vs anybody but NDP?"

That is more or less the way Sask. politics have been for the last 60 years! Back in the 40s, 50s, 60s and early 70s, the Liberals were essentially the only opposition to the CCF-NDP and Tories were virtually non-existent at the provincial level. There was a genuine three way race in 1975, but then the NDP won in 1979 with 48% of the vote despite the Sask. Liberals almost vanishing. When the NDP won all through the 90s and in 2003 - it was in a two way race as well. The Liberals are only slightest more moribind in Saskatchewan than they have always been.

Ze

Yeah, the whole purpose of the Sask Party is to be the anti-NDP party. And there's no serious left or centre alternative to the NDP, which has pretty much become the anti-Sask Party party. 

kevsin@sasktel.net

    Ze : wrote " ...there's no serious left or centre alternative to the NDP,which has pretty much become the anti-Sask. Party party."

    Actually there is " socialist caucus " within Sask. NDP and building momentum due to polarization from the right-wingers.Members who don't care about the enviroment,poverty,social justice issuses or war in Afghanistan.Who view NDP as a machine and nothing else,the dinosaurs if you will.There's certainly some rebuilding from within the party not resting "on our laurels".But offering progressive choices in regards to Prov. issues and not " business as usual".

   We can see it's time to address enviromental problems and become province within Canada which is a leader not one of the worst in respect to reducing " green house gases",setting serious meaningful hard-based targets,not intensity based as the neocons. propose (Sask. Party).So there is a serious " left-wing within the Sask. NDP" and growing.

    Some one also pointed out that the Liberals didn't run anyone in Regina againsl Lingenfelter, the sask. party were drooling over increase in percentage of the vote but is rather meaningless when you consider there was no real serious political issues which devloped throughout the campaign other then the way the Sask. Party is spending on patronage development and construction.Which is where they get there electorial support in the privite sector.Their budget estimates are way off and looking like Devine Gov't in the making.They'll leave this prov. in the same mess as D. and then we'll have to clean up the debt.

    At least we NDP are maintaining and increasing our presence,so rather then look from the outside in get involved and build a movement from within the Party.Pull hard to the Left.

  

Mean Moe

A dead Sask Liberal party is the worst outcome.  If the Liberals can not rebuild and capture at least 15% of the vote, the Sask Party will be in power for a long time to come.

 

Stockholm

It all depends on what kind of Sask. Liberal party there. I would love to see a resurrectuion of the old Ross Thatcher rightwing Liberals that would take votes from the Sask. Party. I would be less enthusiastic if there was a revitalized Liberal party that took dead aim at the urban progressive vote and split the anti-Sask party vote.

Mean Moe

Stockholm wrote:

It all depends on what kind of Sask. Liberal party there. I would love to see a resurrectuion of the old Ross Thatcher rightwing Liberals that would take votes from the Sask. Party. I would be less enthusiastic if there was a revitalized Liberal party that took dead aim at the urban progressive vote and split the anti-Sask party vote.

There is no anti-SP vote, but there is an anti-NDP vote and any viable alternative third party will keep them split.  Even last election had the Sask Liberals been competitive the NDP could have won. Although with a lower pop. vote.

al-Qa'bong

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I would love to see a resurrectuion of the old Ross Thatcher rightwing Liberals...

 

Yeah, you would.

 

People still remember the last Liberal government here, which is why they have so little support. The same was true for a long time about the Conservative party. They were nowhere from the 30s to the 80s, because too many voters remembered the Anderson government.

Memories of the Devine junta were blurred by the Tory Protection Program, in which the party of thieves and murderers changed its name to the "Saskatchewan Party." Even this was their second choice for a name, as many of its founding members favoured calling their Frankenstein monster "The Alberta Party."

Stockholm

"There is no anti-SP vote"

Sure there is. The SP is the government and anyone who is dissatisfied with the current government is "anti-SP party".

Mean Moe

Stockholm wrote:

"There is no anti-SP vote"

Sure there is. The SP is the government and anyone who is dissatisfied with the current government is "anti-SP party".

Those are NDP voters.

Malcolm Malcolm's picture

The current Liberal leader has made the tactically curious decision to position his party to the RGHT of the SaskParty.

remind remind's picture

Hey ya Malcolm, have thought about you upon occasion, and was wondering about you.

 

Good to see you!

 

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