NDP Ex-MPs to rock Couillard's world?

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Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

The Liberals could actually try BEING Liberal again...bring in some policies that are in the Quiet Revolution tradition.  It's not as though they have no choice other than being the party of the corporate center-right.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Ken Burch wrote:

 It's not as though they have no choice other than being the party of the corporate center-right.

Perhaps you didn't get the memo. If PLQ are the party of the corporate centre-right,get ready for a new boss WORSE and hard right corporatist than the old boss. People can yell and scream all day but it's a race between the PLQ and CAQ. The PQ are already out of it and the QNDP is polling at about 1%.

I have a choice between these 2 parties. And I'll take the PLQ any day of the week,thank you very much. We don't need a Trump or Doug Ford in Québec. Non merci.

lagatta4

I don't understand. We (QS) are polling scarcely behind the PQ and very far ahead of the Qndp. Why on earth are you dismissing us?

I vote NDP federally, but that is not at all the same thing. There have been some very progressive Bloc MPs, but I don't see the Bloc polling well around here these days.

I hate the CAQ, but the Québec liberal party is also a cesspool of corruption and carcentrism. Find it hard to take criticism from Rivière des prairies, built as a carcentric monstrosity very recently, very seriously. 1950s urbanism at the turn of this century. Fuck cars, fuck pollution. Cars and personal trucks are needed in remote northern areas, not on our island or its periphery. They are fucking murder. There are few things I hate more, except wilful genocide or femicide.

The ligne rose is essential, as is the extention of the blue line. I'd add extending the green line to Pointe-aux-trembles.

As for extending the lines west, I certainly agree to that as well, but 30 years ago, suburbs such as CSL were opposed, with an antiquated equivalency between public transport users and violent thugs.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

I don't care for cars either. They are pollution machines and everyone knew it for a few decades or so. Problem is,cars are not going anywhere.

I rememner when Mme Plante was elected and all the talking heads on TV and in paper ,on radio (CJAD) and online (But I must stress that these were Anglo Quebercers who are not very tolerant and live their lives in a huge hyperbole bubble) were running with their hair on fire that Plante 'would take their cars away. As I said,a hyperbole bubble. This was English media I don't know about French media but I'm sure  Le Journal took some pot shots at her and still do.

I don't drive and never owned a car. I used to get around all over the island by bike quite easily. And that was driving in the traffic (there were not many bike paths at the time. And helmets? what are they? I never heard of them)

Now I get around by public transit and I have few complaints with it. I live in Montreal traffic,even streets that are normally sparse have turned into highways because of all detours from all the construction going on. I now know the headaches commuting back and forth on the bridges,especially rush hour.

Considering traffic,construction and detours why would anyone want to drive through it? If people parked their cars before entering the dity and if Montrealers can put them in garages (let's face it,owning a car on the island is more trouble than it's worth.) and took public transit to get around the city congestion would pretty much disappear and it would save people money and it would be a plausible and easy way of traveling around the city.

But first you'd have to decrease the fares...very low. I'd say $1 or $1.25. But that isn't going to hasppen.

And I support the pink line. I think the blue line should extend not only east but west. Quite honestly I'd like all the lines excluding the yellow line to expand from the West Island to deep in Montreal East to Pointe aux Trembles.

The city should be pedestrian friendly. This is why making all of Ste Catherine a green space is a good idea regardless of drivers with their trucks,SUV's and showing off their vintage cars in the summer.

But I don't think most of this will happen especially when City Hall loses a relatively friendly relationship with the government. These plans will most certainly be quashed by Legault and his minions.

Great ideas that will be derailed until the City elects another green mayor in 20 or 30 years from now.

pietro_bcc

I don't care for cars either. They are pollution machines and everyone knew it for a few decades or so. Problem is,cars are not going anywhere.

I rememner when Mme Plante was elected and all the talking heads on TV and in paper ,on radio (CJAD) and online (But I must stress that these were Anglo Quebercers who are not very tolerant and live their lives in a huge hyperbole bubble) were running with their hair on fire that Plante 'would take their cars away. As I said,a hyperbole bubble. This was English media I don't know about French media but I'm sure  Le Journal took some pot shots at her and still do.

This was the case in basically all the right wing media, the so called "war on cars", the city is less friendly towards drivers than Coderre was, no doubt. But not to a huge extent, the only real changes as far as driving is concerned have been a handful of streets being shut down.

lagatta4

The Gazette is still harping about it. There have been some improvements in cycle paths, but more would mean reducing parking spaces. Yes, of course the JdM harps about everything.

Many people in Montréal-Nord work in the healthcare field, and with the ligne rose, their commute time would be halved.

lombardimax@hot...

Has the NDP-Q gotten any coverage in election campaign? Any predictions on how Raphaël Fortin will do in Verdun on Election Day?

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

It looks as though NDP-ex-MPs won't be rocking ANYONE's world this year.  This is probably due to the election of the less-progressive candidate to the leadership.  There simply wasn't any room for ANOTHER "socially moderate, fiscally conservative" party in Quebec politics, as it turns out.

lombardimax@hot...

In referencing the original title of this topic, the new NDP-Q managed to field 4 ex-MPs in addition     to the party leader and a former New Brunswick NDP leader. There also is at least one sitting elected municipal politician running. So from an organizational perspective, I think it has been a modestly good effort. The results will show if there are any unexpectedly good showings in some of the ridings.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

lombardimax@hotmail.com wrote:

In referencing the original title of this topic, the new NDP-Q managed to field 4 ex-MPs in addition     to the party leader and a former New Brunswick NDP leader. There also is at least one sitting elected municipal politician running. So from an organizational perspective, I think it has been a modestly good effort. The results will show if there are any unexpectedly good showings in some of the ridings.

How many candidates are they fielding altogether?

Pondering

lombardimax@hotmail.com wrote:

In referencing the original title of this topic, the new NDP-Q managed to field 4 ex-MPs in addition     to the party leader and a former New Brunswick NDP leader. There also is at least one sitting elected municipal politician running. So from an organizational perspective, I think it has been a modestly good effort. The results will show if there are any unexpectedly good showings in some of the ridings.

Yes they formed way too late. The centre left missed what might be their sole chance for another decade or more to have become the alternative to the Liberals. 

swallow

lombardimax@hotmail.com wrote:

Has the NDP-Q gotten any coverage in election campaign? Any predictions on how Raphaël Fortin will do in Verdun on Election Day?

currently 325 votes and 6th place behind the Greens leader. QS second. 

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