Quebec Election October 1, 2018

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Aristotleded24

Pondering wrote:
QS formed in 2006 and has about 16% support. CAQ formed in 2011 and is now leading a majority government.

That's not quite true about CAQ. They are effectively a rebranding of the Action Democratique du Quebec, which was formed in the 1990s (someone from Quebec please help me on the actual date). They first gained seats in 2003, ended up in 2nd place in 2007 while knocking the Liberals back to minority status, and then flamed out massively from there.

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Pondering wrote:

Prime Minister Legault would be worse than Premier Legault. QS is promoting putting the province at risk of that. I'm sure QS would write a great progressive constitution but what would stop the next government from changing it? 

Now there's a sales pitch: Canadian federalism, where Stephen Harper protects you from François Legault. Of all the arguments against sovereignty, "the federal nanny stopping Québec's government from enacting bad policies" is the one that most makes me want to run the fleur-de-lys up the flagpole.

I believe the ADQ was formed for the 1994 election, Aristotled24.

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Aristotleded24 wrote:

Ken Burch wrote:
So is there any hope of avoiding a far-right federal government being elected in 2019?

Sadly the answer to that question is no. The business community is going to lean very hard on the Liberals to deliver the same sort of policies that we would expect under the Conservatives. The NDP is collapsing. This will allow Trudeau to play the identity politics game and win over centre-left voters, and show how nice he is to minorities compared to the "scary" Conservatives. These are the foundational blocks necessary for the Liberals to win the next election, possibly with a bigger majority than they have now. This will obscure the reality that the important aspects of policies that effect people's lives will essentially be the same under the Liberals as we can expect under the Conservatives.

Yeah that is pretty much the situation federally. Life is depressing today.

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Aristotleded24 wrote:

Ken Burch wrote:
So is there any hope of avoiding a far-right federal government being elected in 2019?

Sadly the answer to that question is no. The business community is going to lean very hard on the Liberals to deliver the same sort of policies that we would expect under the Conservatives. The NDP is collapsing. This will allow Trudeau to play the identity politics game and win over centre-left voters, and show how nice he is to minorities compared to the "scary" Conservatives. These are the foundational blocks necessary for the Liberals to win the next election, possibly with a bigger majority than they have now. This will obscure the reality that the important aspects of policies that effect people's lives will essentially be the same under the Liberals as we can expect under the Conservatives.

And the Greens-AKA "The Federal 'it's enough to hold Saanich and Gulf Islands Party' ", are never going to try to make any significant federal gains, may not try to make any federal gains AT ALL, and will never stand as an anti-austerity, pro-economic justice party.  They're just going to go on being a one-seminarian show(shouldn't May have been ordained by now, btw?) and foil for the Parti Justin.

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