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No it aint covering anything it just aint for you to know. Arent there women's issues and things women talk about that you dont want men to know? His Point about the NAACP? U realize that this is an issue that you dont even have a right to speak on n it a internal issue? the naacp burying it represents a lot of gaps and divides in the community which I aint gonna bring up on this. But it is talked about.
edit - Ok listen let me explain something about not jus the NAACP but shit in general. I can talk shit about the NAACP all I want. They can talk shit about me or my age group all they want. As Soon as YOU say anything we both on you remember it a internal issue we still on the same side and remember that. So yo thats why its so funny to me cuz we would hold each other down so anything you say is really really not relevant.
And BA it aint got nothing to do with rural or poor the origin would also have nothing to do with rural or poor cuz poor white ppl wouldnt even own slaves would they.
edit - to BA cracca means a white person mayb u heard different
Your ignorance is staggering. Cracker is a pegorative term for rural, white, poor and/or uneducated. Slavery has nothing to do with its origin. It in fact goes back to Elizabethan times.
"Arent there women's issues and things women talk about that you dont want men to know?"
No, actually, there isn't.
And just like your little sexist insertion, in the whte ppl 2, while saying you wouldn't say what you went on to say, and calling yourself honest for doing so, I say there is not one damn thing about your thinking, conduct, or words, that is honest.
so thats how it used ur wayz I never heard it used that way only as a white person. Dif places n ppl remember. On top of that did u think that looking at today and history I would be a lil suspicious of revealing bare shit to bare white ppl? How many niggas got they shit fucced up cuz they talked too much? I told u already if u cant accept that not everything that deals with us if for you to know then ur asking the wrong person cuz I dont really give a fucc wether you hate me or not. I wonder sometimes cuz there some funny ass reasons from some people but otherwise Im cool here. I know who my loyalty to, what my priorities are, and where Im going and where I stand. I dont need you or any1 else to know that.
edit- went on to say what? my sexist insertion? wtf you talking about? n na therez bare shit that I know for a fact women prefer not to have a ok my bad hetero man around when they talking about. I guess it a cultural thing too but see u dont put out ur family business africans born here dont do it, somalis dont do it, jamaicans dont do it, guyanese dont do it, east ethiopians dont do it, kushitic ppl dont do it. We just dont. Ok?
Oh we are supposed to remember different places and people now, eh?
I would say backatcha in buckets full!
What you seem to miss entirely is that "Cracker" is an innappropriate word for you to use no matter how you meant it. Period.
Unless you are talking about a Ritz or Soda Cracker. In that case you might want to consider some nice Ontario made goat cheese to go with it.
I am talking about this:
You just can't hold back, and apparently think you are cute for saying it anyway. just like you did with the bitch comment.
You lack of understanding about FN's peoples, and your insistence on speaking for them, indicates a great deal. As does your insistence that you get to call others house niggas, including FN's people, why? Well just because you just do apparently.
na I said it to show that I do have that thinking still n im dealing with it.
U dont get to call any1 house niggas n dont worry. Like I said we dont put our family issues out there proly a big reason u rarely see minorities at a counselour far as I know or u dont hear about it. So chill. Ill ask FN ppl not u ill go the source not thru u. I aint speaking for them either.
N u still dont even know what a house nigga is n I told u that u aint gonna so why dont u chill on that.
edit - U seem to be the only one speaking for a group that u aint ur not FN so why you talking like you are?
I can tell you that this is not true from my experience.
so what are you?
A social worker.
you know what I meant, if you dont wanna say thas ur choice. Ill tell you this the ppl I know who mostly dont.
Seen that with africans period, bare south east asian ppl like vietnamese, cambo, laotian, filipino etc and hispanic ppl.
Koreans, japense, chinese like those ppl Idk cuz I dont really have friends or anything who that
lol they avoid my wayz see them either chilling with each other or acting like white kids still
R_P, what does Idk stand for? It is the only part of your posts I haven't been able to figure out.
o i dont know my bad still
You don't get to tell me to chill. And I have seen lots of minorities at counsellors, in fact I even know quite a few who are ones themselves.
Ya, i do know what house nigga means, your little immature stand notwithstanding.
You apparently do not pay attention.
It stands for "I don't know"?
Did you mean my race? I think you know that I am white. Do you self-identify as Punjabi? I have known and worked with minorities going for counselling in BC, Nfld. and (much less) in PEI. A friend in BC is a FN counsellor. (and yes such as FN go to counsellors - a lot of which is due to the systematic racist practices of our federal government in history and today).
ok remind so the ppl who wanted to know or start to learn are already there while the others are either actively racist or in denial. For the sexism thing which one u think I fitin then?
Yo look when I see a house nigga I will Call them out on it itz not ur issue. As for the counsellours im talking about my expierience I dont say all u know I mean for the most part there many reasons u know. Cultural, Economic, time (ties into economic) so u know all of them are big reasons and the end result is most ppl end up not going unless it a court order to see a social worker. Remember u deal with dif kinds of ppl even minorities and im talking for the most part.
Immature stand? No comment...
not pay attention? ur not FN you even said that so wus gwanin?
edit - O word ppl keep sayin ur not. But see Im not even saying that they dont go. Im saying that most dont go or if im wrong then it means they reluctant to say they go because of the cultural tip. Remember u actually see ppl going because you work their right I only hear it if they tell. So u know that's the difference I guess if they are going that they aint saying anything cuz it seen as u know wrong and weak. U can see from my name part of what I am but I explained that in another thread the history of it.
edit - ending the house nigga argument. "Itz A War goin on, the ghetto is a cage/ U got 2 choices be a rebel or a slave" - Stic.Man
Nuff Said
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iRbCV8dv8g
Rexdale_Punjabi, welcome back from your little breather. I would like to suggest a couple of style points that might make posting here a little easier for you. When we have a cascade of responses like this, it is sometimes helpful to let a few comments accumulate before commenting back. As well, "counting to ten" before typing couldn't hurt. Although I see that you are being piled up on a little, it would be best to avoid intemperate rhetoric like "cracca." In fact, I really must insist. However, I can't see why employing the concept of "house nigga" is particularly problematic, as the term has developed quite a history within progressive discourse. Furthermore, it again appears to upset white babblers the most. I find this curious.
I am going to come back in for one last thought.
It occurred to me R_P that your views of whites are almost as sterotypical as you accuse others of being -in that you group everyone the same. I am not saying there is not inherent racism by any means - but it is just plain silly to think that all people of a certian hue act, think and feel the same way.
You are also incorrect to think that someone with my outward hue can not experience some forms of marginalization. As a rural person I have become quite used to people from your neck of the woods from every hue of the rainbow looking down on myself and my neigbours in prejorative ways. We are also quite marganilized economically as well. Did you know, for instance, that at least until recently the largest growth in food banks was occuring in rural areas amongst the very people growing the province's food? Rural people know what it is like to be disrespected, diminished and to work for poverty wages.
That doesn't mean I can know what it feels like to experience racism, but whether you can come to terms with it or not, it does give someone like me enough of a glimmer to be empathetic and to support those working for change and to raise my children to meet all people with an open heart and hand. I don't pretend to know first hand what racism feels like, but you are wrong to think someone like me lives in a silo and never comes into direct contact with those who do within our very families. .
Anyway, you have a great deal of intellectual growing to do and I hope you will some day learn to dial back your preaching and start listening to the choir. Sometimes they have the most beautiful and awe inspiring voices and things to say.
For now I am signing off of babble
Employing a concept during a discussion is different than labelling people as such!
However, if want to be labelled as such makwa that is your choice.
I am sorry to hear that BA, athough I understand it.
You don't think that POC called "house niggas" because they disagree with R_P's view of the world would find it problematic and offensive?
They might well. However, I have yet to see this occur as you have described, although I may well have missed it. If you can point me to such an instance, I would be very willing to review it carefully, in context. I think that it can be used in fair comment, and it can be used as an unfair and unprovoked attack. Thus far, it seems to distress white identified babblers for the most part. I find that interesting.
Ed to add: it seems to me another example of how white progressives have a desire to maintain control over the discourse of people of colour, which was the point of the original thread that led to this set of reactions.
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There may not be time for us all to run / in tandem together - / the horizon calls with its parallel lines. / It may not be right for you to have and hold / in one way forever and yet you still have time
Perhaps, if you first believed said person was who they indicated they were.
I was thinking along those lines myself.
Seriously, just let rexdale be. If everyone focuses on the guy, then it ends in thread derailment and weak personal attacks. Just let him say his stuff and let the mods deal with it. Hell, even if the suspicion that he is some sort of agent provacteur or a guy playing a trick on all of us turn out to be true...what of it? Bask in the glory that you were right. Until that day I think we can all hold our tongues regarding his use of language - if you don't like it whatever. There will be more posts in the thread for you to read. It just sucks that his contributions get undermined whether he is being attacked or being ignored.
I'm actually interested R_P in what you mean here, if you're cool with it, could you expand this thought? I mean, within the terms of the paragraph, you're using it to compare the assimilation of FN people with that of other groups of POC, right?
no im not still Im saying that I dont know how the assimiliation tip etc was for FN ppl and a lot of times they didnt have a choice so I dont even judge ppl for that. Im saying in MY current situation if I were to give up who I am then it wouldnt even be worth living. Im not comparing because lets say what happened to my ppl was only partly cultural and doesnt compare to what happened to my FN niggas which is why I got mad respect for the ones that keep it real.
Im speaking my expierience and I speak as far as I know of for others not farther because Im not some all knowing muthafucca but im not an idiot who asleep im somwhere in between. Like I get pissed off or passionate when I say shit but think about how u were like during my age Im not making excuses Im saying I lose myself. Otherwise Ima humble person because I never felt I was above any1 or below them if shit is valid ill listen but b4 ppl start saying how I ignored white pplz views on nigga thats the point. I didnt feel it was as valid because of the obvious reasons n there was nothing new it was the same shit I been hearing my whole life.
Honestly I say what I feel atm an example on a feminist thing is why do I have a problem with for example not even callin him out here what martin says. Cuz I always felt he wasnt being real to himself or others like the feeling I got is he felt sex was opression for women. But on a honest tip I realized that I was being arrogant wit my girl for example but u know sometimes u gotta apologize when u do something wrong. But I try to treat women with respect doesnt mean Im not gonna talk about women in a sexual way like I am me after all. But idk it seems on this topic no matter what I say im wrong but im still being honest.
I was gonna say something more but I cant even remember now w.e ill edit it in after
edit - remind dont even ride on makwa like me I get vibes off ppl right n I just know Makwa would be a honorable friend or enemy like he has my respect. Despite shit BA too he seems like a good person. Not gonna call out the beefz I got with ppl on this but yall know who you are. Ima start a thread son