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Reporting tech issues to rabble - II

Michelle
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Continued!

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Boom Boom
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I've been trying to link url's of articles like we did at old babble, and the "insert/edit" link doesn't work.

I'm still getting sidescroll on every babble page - but only on my 2003 winXP desktop computer, not on my new winVista laptop.

When I click on "More information about formatting options" it takes me to a blank page.

When I try to change my avatar from that stupid monkey picture to the profile page avatar I had on old babble, nothing happens.

When I highlight text in this "comment" section to copy to send to the "Feedback" link and before posting, it won't copy - so I have to wait until it is posted in the thread, and then copy it to send to the "Feedback" people.

Any suggestions? I'm going to send this to "Feedback", but will they respond?

 


janfromthebruce
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Boom Boom this is what I learned doing doing insert link. First, type the text in your post of what you want to link to. (eg.  A Word of Thank you - from the the New Democrat Party of Canada). Second, high light that text by mousing over it and then release on mouse. This makes the chain link/edit link box become active.   Third, point wand mouse on the little chain and it will open up a small box. Fourth, paste the http address in the top box and don't worry about the rest of the stuff in box. Fifth, click on insert (now it is linked to the text and box closes). 

I also realize that cutting and pasting a hyperlinked text also does the same thing, eg. here:

A Word of Thank you - From the The New Democratic Party of Canada

The problem after one posts is that the hyperlinked text doesn't show this hyperlink and is only revealed if one runs their mouse over the text. It would be good if the hyperlinked text was in blue so babblers were aware that one is linking to elsewhere. 

 

Our kids live together and play together in their communities, let's have them learn together too!


Catchfire
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Hey BB. I think the old links to babble are gonzo. I'm not sure if they will fix this. As for your avatar, it will only switch your photo if it fits the guidelines. That's 65 x 65 pixels and less than 100 kb. You might need to resize. You can do that with photobucket or flikcr or whatever.

The feeback people don't respond, so you have to hope for the best, but Michelle has been good about reporting bug fixes and changes.


Boom Boom
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janfromthebruce wrote:

Boom Boom this is what I learned doing doing insert link. First, type the text in your post of what you want to link to. (eg.  A Word of Thank you - from the the New Democrat Party of Canada). Second, high light that text by mousing over it and then release on mouse. This makes the chain link/edit link box become active.   Third, point wand mouse on the little chain and it will open up a small box. Fourth, paste the http address in the top box and don't worry about the rest of the stuff in box. Fifth, click on insert (now it is linked to the text and box closes). 

 

Thanks - sure is a hell of a lot more complicated than in old babble, and it's a shame there's no instructions included to explain how it works.


Catchfire
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Oh, sorry Boom Boom, I thought you were asking how to link to old babble threads. But what I said about the profile pic is still good.

Boom Boom
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But the avatar I tried to post as my profile pic is smaller than the maximum specified. Same one I used in old babble.

remind
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Now boom boom has a little envelope too, as does Jan. And jan does your avatar pic show up below your name when you post according to what you see, or is it only in your profile?

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Boom Boom
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remind wrote:

Now boom boom has a little envelope too, as does Jan.

 

I remember allowing that when I updated my profile information, but the envelope doesn't show up on my pages when I post.


remind
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Okay boom boom, thank you, I just went and checked my account, and I did not allow that, can anyone see avatar pics under name when they post, or just in the profile?

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Boom Boom
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Still no 'profile' page like we had on old babble. Just your recent posts when your name is clicked, and something called 'tracking' which sounds like the CIA is after you.

 

I still can't delete that accursed monkey avatar from my account page which I have to do to post my avatar from old babble.

 


remind
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Well what is the point of avatar pics anyway if people can't see them?  I changed mine in my profile from the monkey, but do not see anyone else's avatar pics anywhere.

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M. Spector
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Obviously the avatar function is not implemented and if I recall correctly the babbleocracy will see to it that it never will be.

 As for making hotlinks, I find the old method still works:

TYPE [url= THEN TYPE the url THEN CLOSE THE BRACKETS ] THEN TYPE the words you want to appear THEN TYPE [/url]


Boom Boom
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Thanks, M! 

 

(I was watching some ames Bond flicks earlier today and think I heard "M" mentioned. My lips are sealed - I won't give you away.)Sealed


remind
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 Just testing

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remind
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Thanks mspector,

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mimeguy
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I'm having trouble staying on the page as it keeps disappearing when I move to a new forum or using the back button.  It keeps moving to a page not found or connectivity problem.  I'm only having this problem with rabble.ca and not other web pages.  Is anyone else having this problem? 

john
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Similar here, Mimeguy -- pages failing to load -- but only failing with IE, not Firefox. That said, this problem seems to have improved me for me at some point in the last couple of days.


Boom Boom
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Anyone else suffering from monster sidescroll on babble besides me?

mimeguy
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"Similar here, Mimeguy -- pages failing to load -- but only failing with IE, not Firefox. That said, this problem seems to have improved me for me at some point in the last couple of days."

Thanks John.  I'm using IE so maybe it will settle down over time.  Meanwhile I'll just try and squeeze in the reading when I can and post when I can.   

 


Left Turn
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Does anyone else here think that babble was a complete afterthought in the rabble redesign? It seems to me that their desire to have advertising down the right side of every rabble page, including the babble pages, subordinated every other consideration regarding the new babble.

M. Spector
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So is this it, then? Is this the new babble?

There's been no noticeable change or improvement in the last three days.

This isn't even Beta software as far as I'm concerned. More like Epsilon.

This is a huge step backward for rabble.ca.


Unionist
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I suppose it's the weekend and I'm sure work is still being done, but someone explain to me why it would take more than 30 seconds to do something as simple as make hyperlinks visible.

Aside from that (and all the other dysfunctionality), it's aesthetically wrong. It's as if someone were unaware of all the HTML standards out there and started a site from scratch. I have no other explanation for phenomena that I have never seen on a site before - such as the fact that text doesn't wrap properly in the Feedback box; line spacing is wonky; you name it.

My comments apply to both rabble and babble. Just look at the rabble front page. Why would anyone set up 3 columns with the main item in the first (rather than middle) column - and tons of left-over white space there? Anyway, it's all kind of an illegible pastiche tossed together at random.

I just hit "enter" and I get a quadruple line space, including a word space at the beginning of the para. This bizarre behaviour is not accidental - it had to be coded this way. I've reported almost everything through Feedback, even though I have to type blind for the last 10 or so characters of each line before it decides leisurely to wrap to the next line.

I tried to be more generous at the start, until it occurred to me: why would anyone release this in this shape? We're not alpha-testers here. The whole net public can see this. The conclusion is that someone must have thought it was ready, or near ready.

That's disappointing.


Michelle
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Hey Boom Boom, are you able to do links now?

mimeguy wrote:
I'm having trouble staying on the page as it keeps disappearing when I move to a new forum or using the back button. It keeps moving to a page not found or connectivity problem. I'm only having this problem with rabble.ca and not other web pages. Is anyone else having this problem?

That's odd. Sometimes the server is slow - if they're doing work on it (which they're doing a lot of because of tweaking stuff) then that could happen. Growing pains!


M. Spector
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unionist wrote:

I tried to be more generous at the start, until it occurred to me: why would anyone release this in this shape? We're not alpha-testers here. The whole net public can see this. The conclusion is that someone must have thought it was ready, or near ready.

That's disappointing.

It's especially disappointing in that we've been hearing about the new babble software for months now, with glowing reports about how great it was going to be, and now it turns out that there is nothing to show for all those months of planning and preparation.

It's a big mystery to me why babble wouldn't use an alpha-tested, off the shelf forum program rather than try to reinvent the wheel. We've been sold the virtues of open-source software, but what we have now is a buggy, slow, user-unfriendly system that seems to be incompatible with the most popular internet browser, Internet Explorer. 

 


Boom Boom
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Michelle wrote:

Hey Boom Boom, are you able to do links now?

I haven't tried since I saw M. Spector's instructions, but I will when I have time - a lot to do here, I was being treated by the docs all last week, just getting caught up here.

Michelle wrote:
  Growing pains!

I'm nonetheless surprised at how unprepared the new software was when it was finally released a week or two ago. As others have said, we're not testers, we're the general public suffering through this godawful buggy mess.


Boom Boom
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Damn it. I tried to separate two statements from Michelle with my comments in between, and I get that mess just above. God I miss old babble!!!!  YellYell


Unionist
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Suggestion:

Until hyperlinks become visible, we should identify them clearly this way:

HYPERLINK: A random website

At least then the emptor can caveat.


jas
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Joined: Jun 6 2005

Some forums have the hyperlink the same text colour but underlined. That helps. I hope everyone is sending their suggestions to feedback - in a legible format. I would expect the major tweaks and modifications to be occurring for several weeks, and minor ones for a few months, not just a few days. Yes, we are the testers because we use the site, and I don't think too many people were on the beta site checking out the test version for the two weeks prior to the changeover. I'm guessing it's through actual use that the bugs get worked out. 

 

 


Lard Tunderin Jeezus
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M. Spector wrote:

It's a big mystery to me why babble wouldn't use an alpha-tested, off the shelf forum program rather than try to reinvent the wheel. We've been sold the virtues of open-source software, but what we have now is a buggy, slow, user-unfriendly system that seems to be incompatible with the most popular internet browser, Internet Explorer. 

To be fair, IE is pretty much a set of distinct programs in its various versions, with most of the market rejecting IE8 in favour of using the older, more stable and compatible version 7, and some even still on IE6.

ceti
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Here's some comments:

The bottom footer is a mess in terms of placement and alignment and needs to be cleaned up. The rabble poll positioning is just wrong.

As for babble, the first post of many forums is appearing blank, and literal strings are being outputed instead of their actual characters as in "

The new comment box should be floated right, directly underneath the rest of the topic comments and expanded to the same width.

Links should also be coloured red instead of black, otherwise they are barely visible. The link box should also have the style parameter removed (as it gives you all the under the hood styles of rabble). Otherwise it's an improvement.

I was also wondering if this web site based on open source or some customized hack?

 


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