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Unionist

Relax, Magoo, your post is safe and sound in this other thread.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

Well, that one was me basically "re-making" that post -- you can see that it's "after" by the timestamp.  However, the original seems to have come back from the dead in this thread, at #93.

lagatta4

I do hope we'll be able to send private messages soon, in particular because someone here (Unionist) happened to post the death notice of someone I knew. I did manage to contact those close to this person (Richard Wagamese). 

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

It also appears that babble in unavailable on mobile devices.  Even babble's main page at rabble.ca/babble shows up as "Not Found" if you're using a device.

NorthReport

Ok, what's the secret to starting new threads?

SeekingAPolitic...

I getting a certificate error before getting on rabble.  I had a similiar problem with my personal website, had to spend 35 for a year to get the certificate.  The web clients default to https but if you use http you dont see the certificate error, something to do with authenication and secure buying on the the web.

NorthReport

Why are we not showing the number of views for each thread anymore?

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

There is not a word limit to each post.  Is that temporary or will it be something we'll have to live with?

And is there any word as to when we'll be able to send private messages again?

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

So the ONE THING that might have been considered an upgrade or improvement to babble -- the small notification that would say, for example, "3 New" beside topics on the TAT -- appears to have been removed.

Glad to see the techs removing improvements, rather than enabling private messaging, or permitting the posting of images.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

OK, maybe I'm just losing my marbles, but there it is again.  I'm just happy to see it back; I kind of like it.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

It doesn't show up if your not logged in. It is about the only thing I can see that is an improvement. It now actually works and that makes it way easier to access the spot you left off at.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

Ah, thanks.  Perhaps that's all it was.  In which case I retract this:

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Glad to see the techs removing improvements, rather than enabling private messaging, or permitting the posting of images.

... not that PMs and images wouldn't be a good thing tho.

mark_alfred

A few things I've noticed.

  1. Signing in on Firefox gives an "insecure password warning".  This may not be new, given that it's a new feature on Firefox.  But, just thought I'd let folks know.  https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Protect-your-privacy/Insecure-password-wa...
  2. Using html code in the rich text editor ("Filtered HTML") does not work.  It does work in the plain text editor, however.
  3. The reply function, which is supposed to default to a link to the post a user is replying to (providing this link at the top of the post), but instead ends up pointing to the post directly above (and later defaults to the last post in the thread -- or at least the post number indicated suggests this), rather than the post to which a user was actually responding to.  I think this is a good idea, so that people can see what's being responded to within its context rather than the quote function where people often take words out of context, but the reply function is not yet working right.
  4. As others have pointed out, the PM function seems to not be working.
  5. As before, spell checking with a browser's spell check function (assuming a user has this enabled) only works in plain text editor.
  6. Under "My account", there's no longer a list of my past posts or threads, or connection to my past PMs.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

I'm not going to hold my breath on this, but I'd love to hear the rationale for this "upgrade".  It's been 30 days now, and forgive me for saying that this upgrade didn't really seem to improve anything.  Is anyone else curious what all of this was for?

Unionist

The "Donate" button (upper right) is working perfectly.

Left Turn Left Turn's picture

Still waiting for:

1. The ability to post new threads. We can go through the motions to create new threads, but they don't show up anywhere on the site.

2. Private Messages.

3. Naming/embedding links.

4. Our posting history.

5. Emoticons.

I've sent a message to this effect via the Feedback button in the lower left-hand corner of the site, highlighting that numbers 1 and 2 are the most pressing priorities.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

Ordinarily, a full month after an "upgrade" to a website, you might expect to discover the odd rough patch that still needs to be sanded down.

But we can't even post images.  Srsly, this new software doesn't support THE POSTING OF IMAGES?

Can anyone from rabble tell us what's the holdup here?  As Unionist points out, any glitches in the "money accepting" functionality of the site seem to have been addressed.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

Not to be the complainer here -- I assume that the tech staff need to know what's wrong -- but here's one little thing.

Currently, links to (say) an external article or blog post simply appear in bold.  Which is to say they don't look any different from any other thing I might choose to bold.

Any chance that some techie could (literally) take less than a minute to edit the CSS file and make a:link a different colour, a different typeface, or a different something else?

 

Unionist
Left Turn Left Turn's picture

The lack of being able to post new threads is really hurting. There's been no discussion of this week's federal budget, because there's been no ability to start a thread about it.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

Is the softwear team just straight out refusing to tell anybody anything, Meg?  It really doesn't make ay sense that we STILL don't have the use of all of those feature.  This many weeks in, what could possibly be THIS big of a hang-up

wage zombie

The software team works on the software, and it's not their job to engage with posters on the message board.  While it might seem like it would take them just a few minutes to chime in about technical issues, it never works out that way (speaking as a developer, who has tried to do so during messy upgrades on message boards).

My assumption is that Rabble has a list of outstanding issues, and they are prioritizing those issues to the software team.  While some of these issues seem like they could be solved very quickly (eg. showing links in a different colour), it never works that way for the devs doing the work.  Presumably, Rabble is prioritizing the remaining issues by section, and while some of the Babble issues have gotten attention, they're not going to get back to the Babble issues again until they have enough capacity to sort them all out.

For those wondering about the "rationale for the upgrade", Drupal 6 reached end of life, meaning there wouldbe no more security upgrades and sites running Drupal 6 could potentially be insecure.  I think the upgrade was in the works for a while, proceeding slowly with a very limited budget, and they decided that given all the factors (inclding the number of post-upgrade headaches), now was the best time to flip the switch.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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The software team works on the software, and it's not their job to engage with posters on the message board.

True.  It's the job of rabble/babble staff to do this, based on input from that dev team.

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My assumption is that Rabble has a list of outstanding issues, and they are prioritizing those issues to the software team.

1.  David Climenhaga says that on some of his blog posts, the periods don't look as round as they should.  Can you look into this and report back?

2.  The "Donate to Rabble" button still won't accept bitcoin??  Assume overtime is pre-authorized.

3.  Could the pictures on the main page be more colourful?  Google claims there are 16.7 million colours, but some of these photos look like they barely have 10 million.

4.  Why does the rabble.ca logo change size at such a low frame rate?  Do we need more processing power?

5.  Can we make the word "Advertise" wiggle, or bounce, or something?

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92.  Photos on babble

93.  Private messages on babble

94.  Babble on mobile devices

95.  Babble quotes in one style only

96.  A "Report Post as Offensive" button so mods know what's going on

97.  Links that look like a link

98.  New threads that don't take hours or days to appear (or not at all)

99.  A posting history

100.  Access to the "Contact" page, even if nobody really wants to be contacted right now

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Drupal 6 reached end of life, meaning there wouldbe no more security upgrades and sites running Drupal 6 could potentially be insecure.

If you use Mozilla, you can click on the small (i) on the Address Bar to see site information and it says "Connection is Not Secure".

I took a screencap in order to post a picture, but because I've made a quote in this post, I can't do that.  Quotes only work with filtered HTML, and pictures only work with Plain text.  Is that "out of the box" Drupal?? 

ed'd to add:  just for the record, I get that you're probably referring to exploits and other malicious security breaches, and not SSL, but still.  If security is the greater goal, it's a start.

 

 

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