That Thread that got ugly... The stereotype thing
it was stargazer who said that right? I msg her about it too but the thing Im seeing is that, sum1 who has class privelege will think automatically o stereotype because they dont deal with the real shit. Me I wouldnt say to someone facing a real issue o ur a stereotype, because even if they are we never made the stereotypes white ppl did, we cant live our lives thru white pplz eyes or how they think we "should" live them.
We're taught that too often but it never works bcuz if ur rich u always play catchup or ur the person who's just "tolerated" but never accepted. If ur on the blocc shit is too real for u to think about what white ppl who u only see in a teacher's or police officer's uniform anyway think about u. U got bigger realer issues on hand.
Like me I never really shown anything personal really on this shit maybe that's why ppl doubt it but I couldnt really care less u know one time ur gonna see my face and be like shit he wasnt kidding. Like july times no internet to pay the light bill who u think of that would say that's a stereotype of manz being poor.
Shit in regards to that for example if u wanna give me money so the poor part wont be true Its all good otherwise stfu if u dont live it. In that case white or POC if u aint lived it stfu and listen cuz u have no right or insight to speak on it. It's like a me telling a woman how it feels to be raped. Or a white man telling me what racism is like. LOL.. exactly
As to the other stuff the fact that I brought up a issue that's real in many places + affecting me personally and ye I added to the drift a bit later but in the end why it such a big issue where my tongue aint been at? The bigger issue was what maysie and remind replied to (I was expecting as much from them atleast tbh). And from there it was just sad.
The fact that there's no boundaries or respect when issues like that come on it's just a pileup over a unrelated issue. And stargazer explain how it had nothing to do with youth issues and everything to do with a stereotype about blacc males and women?
Lol where ur also wrong about that is that the rex aint only blacc males there's some white dudes here, spanish ones, some filipino etc. majority def but not 100% so who's assuming?
And evidently there are a lot of girls my age lookin at the baby tip is it right to ignore that n dismiss it as a stereotype?
The typin shit idk I shown u that I type directly how I think when Im thinking shit thru it's better when Im putting shit out fast it's worse idk why it's a issue, still...
Do u notice that the ppl who are from the blocc know what I say to be tru for a lot of things n dont really say o just a stereotype but the ppl who aint from there make baree shit up to try n discredit what im saying. Afraid of the hood are we?
Im not even gonna go on any longer there's too much shit when the fucc is that part of the forum u know where issues related to youth, race, class aint shitted on by bs and actually discussed in a manner where itz respectful? Like the feminist forum has that the others not really maybe cuz of a lacc of ppl belongin to those categories idk.
What's so funny is that the ppl who acutally tried to listen seen the realness n the other ppl who just had a problem with a real nigga n not one who's similar to the ones they proly see the one always tryna live up to white pplz standards and puttin them on a pedastal. I think it irks them cuz they hate me, everything I am and that I represent. That strugglin shit where u can keep us down but we aint staying there. That fear lol. So it is what it is hate me or love me, Im still here.
But fucc it really that's too much u know I already know if any of those ppl talkin shit actually knew someone or had been pregnant/had a kid during a teen u wouldnt be sprakin shit on that. Lol I guess I already seen which ppl on this are actually not on cracc and which ones are fiendz lol.
As to my race come see lol a weird thing my boi who from SA we were bunnin yesterday man shown me that during apartheid I wouldnt have been able to see some of my famz cuz I dont pass some pencil test shit lol. Proly not the paper bag either esp in SA lol.
So it is what it is. Think what u want but there's a difference between race and ethnicity that aint present here. But, Im not from here. My ethnicity is in my name. My race?
I was, am and always will be Blacc.
Peace
Yeah, go down to my brother in law's neighbourhood - Bushwick, Brooklyn - and start dropping the "N-word" as you do here to a group of black guys and you'll find out very quickly just how "Blacc" you are.
u really are a fiend arent u?
look where I live....
U really still tryna say Im ur color?
Lol id proly body myself If I was no jokes.
u still dont get it. Why Brooklyn. U think there's no POC in toronto?
LOL why dont u come to the rex n see how many blacc ppl there are then?
edit - Like the funniest thing about u is u have no clue what I look like lol
R_P
Saying "riding them like a carriage" is unacceptable, to the max. It is NOT discussing a youth issue, it is disrespectful sexist tripe.
I may have "no clue what you look like" but I know what you DON'T look like - black. Not like the people who were and still are called the "N-word" as a means of degradation and dehumanization - a word that you choose to appropriate in an attempt to portray some sort of nonsense "hood" persona while perpetuating the worst possible stereotypes about POC and people in inner cities in general. Frankly, a bigoted satirist couldn't do a better job at giving people a terrible impression of POC from "the hood".
I mean, do you seriously think that if you walked through Bushwick, approached a group of black guys and started dropping the N-word, they'd be cool with it and think you were one of them? Try it some time...
no ur view of what that is is purely west african there's an east side to the continent. On top of that Im me that included some stereotypes but the fact that on a wide range of topics I know something n I can argue that disproves the stereotype of manz bein stupid but the fact that not one person picced up on that shows wus really craccin. Ur only choosing conciously or not to see the negative stereotypes or w.e but not the shit that manz break.
Im not trying to be no representative for no race though I brought this up in the OP yall are used to that right ppl behaving a certain way in front of white ppl so that they dont get a bad impression. The fact that ur not seeing me as a individual and as a POC whereas u would see a white person as just an individual faults and good things together shows the ingrained racism in u and others on here and in general society. I just proved that point cuzz.
And brooklyn is full of bloods. Thats where they would start popping u really dont know what I look like ppl mistake me for some shit like ethiopian, somali, or from the carib almost 100% of the time think about what that means.
Just remember that the fact that u see me as representing billions of ppl or even millions and not just Rexdale_Punjabi shows wus craccin. If a white dude was on here right saying the same things wether u agree with it or not u would only see him as a good or bad individual. Like I said why dont yall get it Im not here to be reppin my ppl or showcasing some good shit. Im just being me wether u like that or not.
And yea Ill admit that carriage shit was out of line.
edit - and SSC do you seriously think that u know any thing about what would happen outside of a white dude to anybody who went to a group of ppl and started saying nigga. Like with a white dude itz like that but for POC itz just like yo where u from. The white dude aint even considered a threat but for us itz like u could be somebody from a next place where there's beef. So itz a totally different situation and circumstances which you'll never have any expierience of or maybe not even here of outside of this.
edit - by saying the stereotype thing ur assuming that Im even trying to "educate" white ppl about racism etc as a whole. A long time ago I learned a very important fact of life. White ppl dont listen to us. The ones who actually know something either made a concious choice to learn it, or they learned from another white person. And the white ppl who dont know are def not gonna listen to anybody anywhere near my kind of area or skin tone.
Thats the str8 truth wether u admit it or not.
Im just here, I learned some stuff about feminism for example and dif perspectives but I dont need to learn about racism I live with it everyday. The fact that there's supposed to be some kind of burden on me to totally and singlehandedly uplift my shit and be some great savior who'll teach all these ignorant ass white ppl why itz wrong to treat me differently cuz I look different is pure bs. Like if ur too much of a idiot to realize that in the 1sst place ur not worht my time. I dont deal with the avg white person no more unless I have to Im not that old but I already got more then a lifetime of bad expiereiences to just know it aint worth my time.
And in regards to uplifting my ppl why the fucc should I ask for help from the same ppl who doing it Im for mine I dont care about theirz I bang with my kind I dont go groveling and begging to white ppl for help I dont need their help live or die Ill do it by my own strength.
No, YOU choose to try to speak for vast members of a group - a group that you're not even a part of. When YOU say shit like "black men don't eat pussy" or suggest that everyone in Rexdale is packing a gun. If you're just like that, no one would ahve a problem with it. The problem is that you choose to project all of the worst aspects of yourself onto everyone who you think falls into your group.
And, yes, I know the difference between east Africa and West Africa. And I know that the Punjab region doesn't fall close to either.
learn ur history too then even the greeks called that area ethiopia it only started to change since the arab invasions that occured esp with the mughal empire. U can ask elders about this shit.And for the most part arabs or any invaders never got to the part im from thats why I look different they basically got stopped in modern pakistan except for the mughal empire which never actually had enough numbers to change the racial makeup of an entire sub-contient.
Just cuz white ppl like u re-wrote the maps and divided us doesnt mean we have to accept it.
edit- and that shit that's a cultural thing can be held true for the majority of that group. If I said generally white ppl behave different around POC then around whtie ppl thats true. Same thing when manz around here are getting jumped for alledgly eating out wtf do u think holds true for a majority of ppl around here.
n im speaking for me n the ppl around me. Im not even going into the gun part it is what it is watch the news.
You're deluded if you think that every time you engage in misogny and the own up when you feel heat for it to it as a "my bad", that it undoes the damage your words do.
It's called back peddaling, you aren't sorry, you'll do it again, that's very clear. I don't care who you are, how old you are, where your from, none of it - I don't have to sit and shut up in the face of your sexism.
You don't get to use your oppression to oppress me. You make babble hostile to women and the moderators are protecting you and giving Feminists and pro-feminist men a hard time because of you.
And really Michelle? I have to have a quota of posts per day before I can call another babbler out on sexism. WTF? Maybe you should pay more attention to the sexism you ignore and less to giving feminist a hard time.
I already shown that Idc about that heat shit I make a change wether thats evident on this or not Idc I know im changin ppl around me see that I still gotta way to go but im young im ahead of the rest of dudes my age and ill get there.
edit - and at the same time I wont let u use ur white privelege along with others to be shutting down shit thats racial
I'm sure your sources are just as credible as the absurd link you posted from some crackpot about how AIDS was a U.S. patent...
As a matter of fact, many people in the Punjab region are of white Aryan race. Even the name "Punjab" is of Persian origin.
naa I know my histroy where the fucc do U think im From? Alexander the not great is quoted as saying that if u wanna believe another white man. go look at the mons tribe, go look at ancient kemet and esp ancient kush. go look at where the name for the ganges river came from.
Go look at accounts from the horn too.
Wherez ur history cuzz?
Well U know we have this great histroy we used to fucc dogs and shit and run around naked in caves. And then these ppl called the greeks admittdly copied a lot of shit from their southern egyptian neighbours (plato quoted as saying that even) and we had some sort of civilization. And then the romans felt really special for conquering for the most part ppl who didnt have that knowledge and were regular europeans/arabs and then we went into the dark ages where we were so special we thought leeches were the cure for everything.
Then we stole guns from the moors and our dieseases killed huge parts of the world fast forward today. U got about 5-600 years of real history I know mine. Itz taught elders make sure it is.
Dont play around cuzz.
Oh for F**ks sake R_P. You are consistently going on about women, speaking on behalf of black women. You don't know shit about how a woman feels inside. You decided to portray a bunch of women (who happen to be black) as wanting babies. Then you go on talking sexist shit. Then it's the fucking stereotypes you throw out, as if all black men were running around in the "hood" with guns, or the one about black men not giving face. SCC is right. You cannot claim to speak for all black men, and you certainly do NOT own the voices of Women of colour.
And I am sick and fucking tired of this bullshit card you pull every fucking time - I'm black so shut up because your white or privileged.
Heads up R_P, I am not white and I sure as fuck am not privileged. I don't and shouldn't have to trot out my fucking background every time you say and post offensive things.
Who the fuck do you think you are? Do you figure you have the corner on oppression? You're a MAN. You'll always have it better than woman. Always. Stop with the bullshit. You have no idea what people's social-economic position is. Don't assume because people disagree with you that means they are white.
SCC is Jewish, do you have any idea what his gamily went through? You going to call that background "privileged"?
I'm tired of this. I think in this case the moderators are failing. If you consistently feel the need to define an entire group of people by YOUR experiences, that is wrong. Just as wrong as me claiming to speak for all FN people. Get it?
I'm going to try to be calm now but this has got to stop.
white aryan is a oxymoron. aryan means noble it was used for ppl north and south on the subcontinent.
A lot of the marker genes in Iran are known to have migrated there from india which is the opposite of the invasio craccpot theory.
and no it comes from sanskirt. Panchanada which means five rivers.
the persian thing was an attempt by yet another group of invaders to make it look like they owned shit. Naa they dont still.
And the older remains shows the ppl have remained about the same racial type for over 10k years now. A lot of estimates put white ppl as not being much older and esp not being able to conquer that early.
so what ru dealing with? Make ur own identiy Iranian ppl and Nazis too. We never called yall aryans yall never will be cuzz.
dog haired ppl cant be aryan.
edit - there u go aint noble no more my bad
It started on Mount Sinai. Cuzz.
Oh now you're using the Marcus Garvey quote about white people having dog hair? See, I actually read Marcus Garvey.
You're getting more offensive with every post dude. Every post.
ok, they did want babies they made that clear. if a girl told u she wanted to have ur baby, does that mean that she doesnt?
the problem right now is that ur right but itz not the same position as other ppl but I need to calm down too lol
yo I need help loll
What does that supposed to mean?
Can anyone else on rabble throw out such racist nonsense and still be allowed to post?
lol dont even use that word bro u dont know wtf it means n u def cant use it.
but im not even gonna say nothing about that but u do realize how much of judaism is based off the ancient egyptians right?
do u see how it feelz? Im playin but ur whole shit about white aryan? and tryna tell me incorrectly too where my shit comes from?
Wuddup now? And no u cannot be aryan. That's a fact. Fucc that word anyway itz been twisted by arabs and then white ppl itz why ppl dont really use it no more. Ppl automatically think nazi when they hear it.
R_P, you get a certain amount of leeway because you're young, and because you got a rough ride at the beginning of your time on babble for unfair reasons. But it seems to me like you're going out of your way to be offensive, just to get a rise out of people. And surprise, surprise, it's pissing people off. Imagine that.
Being 15 years old is no excuse for the kind of sexism you were spewing in that thread, even though you were in the youth issues forum. I understand that you're young, but there are standards on babble when it comes to how much immaturity people will put up with here.
Your overt bragging about how you can make a woman come multiple times without using your mouth, and your bragging about how you would never, ever go down on a woman because it's not manly in your neighbourhood, and how great you are in bed, etc., is just plain chauvanist posturing. And yeah, it really gets women's backs up to hear that shit here. And now you start a new thread complaining because people aren't respecting your point of view.
Well, sorry, but your point of view about sex as you expressed it in the other thread is offensive. And you're going to get called on it when you spend post after post not only bragging about how well you can fuck women, and what a stud you are because you'll never go down on them.
That thread got ugly because you were sexist and offensive in it. Sure, there's no specific rule in babble policy about posting unnecessarily sexually graphic dick-waving and bragging. But you crossed a line, and that's why people were pissed off about it.
yo read ur inbox in a bit star n michelle ima be serious if ur gonna ban/suspend or w.e do it after that cuz Im asking for help on a real tip
The PM you sent me was totally offensive to me R_P. I replied in anger, because you make a lot of assumptions about people who you know nothing about.
The moderators have been extremely easy on you, given the amount of times you've said things that are offensive. I too was cool with you in the beginning but you say you want to learn, then you appear to not listen. I don't know what to tell you or how I can help you. Maysie and others have pointed things out to you but you don't appear to either care or you're deliberately being obtuse. I don't know, but if this continues you'll have succeeded in getting rid of some of the females who post on here.
If you don't want assumptions made about you, don't make assumptions about others We're all guilty of that I know and I have to learn not to do that as well.
But given you have no idea about people's backgrounds, you really have to stop with the privilege stuff. Really. We're not all rich white straight males you know.
No kidding, He is 15? My apologies for getting involved in this debate.
no ur apologies for posting bs about where punjab comes from and other shit
n mine for my shit
star read ur inbox but dont comment about it here
edit - plz
NP R_P. Read your PM....
Well, this is getting kind of surreal.
Michelle and I have been talking on the phone, and agreed on a couple of things.
R_P, we've been reading your posts on this and the previous thread, and I know you emailed Michelle. First, there's a bit of a language barrier and to be honest I don't always know what you're talking about, but for the most part I get it with a bit of effort. Michelle and I agree that you need a bit of a break from here, because you're pretty much going beyond the limits of what's ok to say, and also things are just getting too hostile right now for people to engage here as the place was intended. In some subject areas you're great (not that I always agree with you, but that doesn't matter) but in other subject areas you really have a hard time.
I'm not setting a time for now, as the mods would like to talk about it and be fair to you and all the users of the board. Meanwhile, I would encourage you to email me or the other mods about this if you want.
Closing this now.